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  How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2014-12-22 18:39 -0500
    Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-12-22 17:16 -0800
      Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-12-22 18:02 -0800
        Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-23 04:54 +0000
          Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-12-23 08:43 -0800
            Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-23 17:18 +0000
              Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2014-12-25 14:07 -0500
                Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-25 19:39 +0000
                  Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-12-26 13:00 +1300
                    Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-26 01:39 +0000
                      Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-12-26 19:08 +1300
                        Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-26 17:02 +0000
            Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2014-12-25 14:06 -0500
    Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-23 04:53 +0000
      Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2014-12-25 14:10 -0500
    Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2014-12-23 13:53 -0500
      Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-12-24 07:13 +1100
        Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2014-12-25 14:11 -0500
      Re: How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-12-23 17:49 -0800

#67761 — How Do I Eliminate the Services Menu Item?

I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".

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#67765

In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
 Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".

In a nutshell, you don't.

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#67766

On 2014-12-23 01:16:59 +0000, Don Bruder said:

> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu
>> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.
>> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system
>> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
> 
> In a nutshell, you don't.

I'm curious about the beachball from the pass-over.  I make no use of 
it (other than hotkeys embedded in it that I summon); that is, I don't 
use it as a drop-down/select thing.  Perhaps if you have a single 
service in the list you won't get the beachball, but I curious to know 
why you do, and why that isn't the problem you're trying to solve.

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#67772

On 2014-12-23, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-12-23 01:16:59 +0000, Don Bruder said:
>
>> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>>  Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu
>>> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.
>>> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system
>>> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
>> 
>> In a nutshell, you don't.
>
> I'm curious about the beachball from the pass-over.  I make no use of 
> it (other than hotkeys embedded in it that I summon); that is, I don't 
> use it as a drop-down/select thing.  Perhaps if you have a single 
> service in the list you won't get the beachball, but I curious to know 
> why you do, and why that isn't the problem you're trying to solve.

I've got 20 or so services installed, and there is no delay. 

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#67778

On 2014-12-23 04:54:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2014-12-23, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2014-12-23 01:16:59 +0000, Don Bruder said:
>> 
>>> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>>> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu
>>>> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.
>>>> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system
>>>> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
>>> 
>>> In a nutshell, you don't.
>> 
>> I'm curious about the beachball from the pass-over.  I make no use of
>> it (other than hotkeys embedded in it that I summon); that is, I don't
>> use it as a drop-down/select thing.  Perhaps if you have a single
>> service in the list you won't get the beachball, but I curious to know
>> why you do, and why that isn't the problem you're trying to solve.
> 
> I've got 20 or so services installed, and there is no delay.

Which do you have?

By the way ServiceScrubber may be of some use to the OP in managing 
what is/isn't there.

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#67779

On 2014-12-23, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-12-23 04:54:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> I've got 20 or so services installed, and there is no delay.
>
> Which do you have?

Besides the ones that come with Mac OS X, I have a bunch I made myself:

Copy Unix Path
Copy Unix Path (~)
Create Master Disk Image
Fix Filename
Lock
Make ISO 8601 Date
Make Lower Case
Make Mixed Case
Make Sentence Case
Make Title Case
Make Upper Case
Open As Administrator
Open in vi
Remove DS_Store Files
Remove From Apple Quarantine
Toggle Hidden Files
Unlock

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#67850

On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:18:57 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <cftmg1Fb8nsU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2014-12-23, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2014-12-23 04:54:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> I've got 20 or so services installed, and there is no delay.
>> 
>> Which do you have?
> 
> Besides the ones that come with Mac OS X, I have a bunch I made myself:
> 
> Copy Unix Path
> Copy Unix Path (~)
> Create Master Disk Image
> Fix Filename
> Lock
> Make ISO 8601 Date
> Make Lower Case
> Make Mixed Case
> Make Sentence Case
> Make Title Case
> Make Upper Case
> Open As Administrator
> Open in vi
> Remove DS_Store Files
> Remove From Apple Quarantine
> Toggle Hidden Files
> Unlock
> 
> 

I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated 
all of them in the Services Preference Panel.

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Nelson

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#67853

On 2014-12-25, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated 
> all of them in the Services Preference Panel.

The Services Preferences Panel? Where is that?

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#67861

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-12-25, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated
> > all of them in the Services Preference Panel.
> 
> The Services Preferences Panel? Where is that?

System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Services

Or you can get it to it via the Services menu in any application menu.

It can assign keyboard shortcuts to services but also has a checkbox to
enable/disable each service (or entire categories).
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#67864

On 2014-12-26, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-25, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated
>> > all of them in the Services Preference Panel.
>> 
>> The Services Preferences Panel? Where is that?
>
> System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Services
>
> Or you can get it to it via the Services menu in any application menu.
>
> It can assign keyboard shortcuts to services but also has a checkbox to
> enable/disable each service (or entire categories).

Nice. I was not aware the ability to completely enable and disable
Services existed in that panel. Thanks.

I have to wonder, considering the delay the OP is experiencing, whether
there would be a significant difference between disabling them in the
panel versus removing them completely from the Library/Services
directory.

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#67865

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-12-26, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-12-25, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated
> >> > all of them in the Services Preference Panel.
> >> 
> >> The Services Preferences Panel? Where is that?
> >
> > System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Services
> >
> > Or you can get it to it via the Services menu in any application menu.
> >
> > It can assign keyboard shortcuts to services but also has a checkbox to
> > enable/disable each service (or entire categories).
> 
> Nice. I was not aware the ability to completely enable and disable
> Services existed in that panel. Thanks.
> 
> I have to wonder, considering the delay the OP is experiencing, whether
> there would be a significant difference between disabling them in the
> panel versus removing them completely from the Library/Services
> directory.

Many services don't come from Library/Services: they are supplied
directly by applications (listed in the Info.plist file in the
application package). The only way to remove those ones is to delete the
application (or move it out of Applications, perhaps?)

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#67870

On 2014-12-26, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-26, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-12-25, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I just have the ones that came with Snow Leopard and have deactivated
>> >> > all of them in the Services Preference Panel.
>> >> 
>> >> The Services Preferences Panel? Where is that?
>> >
>> > System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Services
>> >
>> > Or you can get it to it via the Services menu in any application menu.
>> >
>> > It can assign keyboard shortcuts to services but also has a checkbox to
>> > enable/disable each service (or entire categories).
>> 
>> Nice. I was not aware the ability to completely enable and disable
>> Services existed in that panel. Thanks.
>> 
>> I have to wonder, considering the delay the OP is experiencing, whether
>> there would be a significant difference between disabling them in the
>> panel versus removing them completely from the Library/Services
>> directory.
>
> Many services don't come from Library/Services: they are supplied
> directly by applications (listed in the Info.plist file in the
> application package). The only way to remove those ones is to delete the
> application (or move it out of Applications, perhaps?)

That's a good point. Thanks. I still wonder though if moving the file
might cause a different behavior than disabling it in System Preferences
> Keyboard.

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#67849

On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:43:48 -0500, gtr wrote
(in article <2014122308434844446-xxx@yyyzzz>):

> By the way ServiceScrubber may be of some use to the OP in managing 
> what is/isn't there.

Thanks.  I'll take a look at that.

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#67771

On 2014-12-22, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".

That's not normal behavior. There should be no delay. 

What version Mac OS X are you running, and on which model/year Mac? 

Exactly which services do you have installed? 

Have you considered removing any services in these locations?:

/Users/you/Library/Services
/Library/Services

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#67851

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:53:32 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <cfsaqcF5fpU3@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2014-12-22, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
>> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
>> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
>> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
> 
> That's not normal behavior. There should be no delay. 
> 
> What version Mac OS X are you running, and on which model/year Mac? 
> 
> Exactly which services do you have installed? 
> 
> Have you considered removing any services in these locations?:
> 
> /Users/you/Library/Services
> /Library/Services
> 
> 

I just deactivated everything in the Preferences Panel.  It's hard to 
troubleshoot because it only happens intermittently and usually when 
I'm in a rush to do something else :)

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Nelson

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#67780

In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
 Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".

Nelson-

I have the same problem when I right-click on a file.  The beach ball 
pops up as soon as I scroll past "Open With".

The solution is to single-click but do not hold on the menu heading.  
The menu stays open after you let up on the mouse, and you can then 
click on your choice without the beach ball appearing.

However, old habits are hard to break.  I never remember to let up on 
the mouse, and the beach ball always appears!

Fred

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#67781

In article <fmmck-1A94FE.13531023122014@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
 Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
> > I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
> > bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
> > I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
> > locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
> 
> Nelson-
> 
> I have the same problem when I right-click on a file.  The beach ball 
> pops up as soon as I scroll past "Open With".
> 
> The solution is to single-click but do not hold on the menu heading.  
> The menu stays open after you let up on the mouse, and you can then 
> click on your choice without the beach ball appearing.
> 
> However, old habits are hard to break.  I never remember to let up on 
> the mouse, and the beach ball always appears!
> 
> Fred

How odd, you guys on > Snow Leopard? Does not happen on my SL MB.

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#67852

On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:13:36 -0500, dorayme wrote
(in article <do_ray_me-59BB4F.07133624122014@aioe.org>):

> In article <fmmck-1A94FE.13531023122014@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
>  Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
>>> bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
>>> I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
>>> locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
>> 
>> Nelson-
>> 
>> I have the same problem when I right-click on a file.  The beach ball 
>> pops up as soon as I scroll past "Open With".
>> 
>> The solution is to single-click but do not hold on the menu heading.  
>> The menu stays open after you let up on the mouse, and you can then 
>> click on your choice without the beach ball appearing.
>> 
>> However, old habits are hard to break.  I never remember to let up on 
>> the mouse, and the beach ball always appears!
>> 
>> Fred
> 
> How odd, you guys on > Snow Leopard? Does not happen on my SL MB.
> 
> 

Last Snow Leopard, Mac Book Pro.

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#67783

In article <fmmck-1A94FE.13531023122014@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
 Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.D0BE15C4043DE97AB01029BF@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
> > I want to completely remove the "Services" item from the drop-down menu 
> > bar. Not individual services but the whole damn "Services" structure.  
> > I never use it and if I don't scroll past it fast enough, the system 
> > locks up with a beach ball while it goes out and looks for "Services".
> 
> Nelson-
> 
> I have the same problem when I right-click on a file.  The beach ball 
> pops up as soon as I scroll past "Open With".
> 
> The solution is to single-click but do not hold on the menu heading.  
> The menu stays open after you let up on the mouse, and you can then 
> click on your choice without the beach ball appearing.
> 
> However, old habits are hard to break.  I never remember to let up on 
> the mouse, and the beach ball always appears!
> 
> Fred

You can clean up the "Open With" menu with Onyx or some terminal-foo

<http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/how_rebuild_launchservices_remove_
duplicates_open_menu>

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