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| Started by | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| First post | 2014-12-20 14:30 +1300 |
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Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-20 14:30 +1300
Re: Process names Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-20 01:43 +0000
Re: Process names JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-19 21:15 -0500
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-20 18:17 +1300
Re: Process names Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-20 05:59 +0000
Re: Process names Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-12-19 22:38 -0800
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-20 20:04 +1300
Re: Process names Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-19 23:32 -0800
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-23 13:10 +1300
Re: Process names Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-22 16:24 -0800
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-23 19:15 +1300
Re: Process names Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-12-23 11:16 -0500
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-24 16:34 +1300
Re: Process names Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-24 14:49 +0000
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-25 19:31 +1300
Re: Process names JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-20 03:17 -0500
Re: Process names Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> - 2014-12-21 09:48 +1300
| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 14:30 +1300 |
| Subject | Process names |
| Message-ID | <201220141430104225%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know what these are?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 01:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cfk2hcFq6vpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67735 |
On 2014-12-20, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had > strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other > weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know > what these are? Can you please post a link to a screen shot so we can see what you are describing? How To Post Screen Shots To Newsgroups You can post a screenshot link using a service like ImageShack. ImageShack is an easy-to-use free media hosting service. It can be used to upload images. Registration is not required in order to upload files. 1. On your keyboard, press Command-Shift-4. 2. On your keyboard, press the space bar. 3. Click the window you want. A picture file will appear on the desktop. 4. Go to <http://imageshack.us/> or <http://tinypic.com>. 5. Click Browse, then navigate to and select the picture file. 6. Click "Upload Now". 7. Paste the "Direct link to image" URL in a newsgroup message. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 21:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5494dbdf$0$44787$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #67735 |
On 14-12-19 20:30, Mickey MacMouse wrote: > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had > strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other > weird characters. Activity Monitor, select process, "Inspect" and in the new window, "Open Files and Ports" and take a snapshot of that. This will yield clues on what executable it is running and what data files it has (along with a whole bunch of other system files).
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 18:17 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <201220141817346353%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67735 |
In article <201220141430104225%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had > strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other > weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know > what these are? I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as shown in the top entry of this screengrab. http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg Most are single character names. A few have been two to three characters. They could just be artefacts of Process Viewer being too slow to retrieve all the information as with the impossible CPU percentage. It is a slow old G3 CRT iMac.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 05:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cfkhisFtfirU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67740 |
On 2014-12-20, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > In article <201220141430104225%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse ><mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > >> I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and >> spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had >> strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other >> weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know >> what these are? > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as > shown in the top entry of this screengrab. > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg > Most are single character names. A few have been two to three > characters. They could just be artefacts of Process Viewer being too > slow to retrieve all the information as with the impossible CPU > percentage. It is a slow old G3 CRT iMac. That is peculiar. 1. What version Mac OS X are you running? 2. Do any of these processes show up in the listing you get when you enter this command in terminal?: ps awux 3. When did you first notice this issue? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 22:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <myh9wqesgk.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> |
| In reply to | #67740 |
Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> writes: > In article <201220141430104225%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse > <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had > > strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other > > weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know > > what these are? > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as > shown in the top entry of this screengrab. > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg > Most are single character names. A few have been two to three > characters. They could just be artefacts of Process Viewer being too > slow to retrieve all the information as with the impossible CPU > percentage. It is a slow old G3 CRT iMac. I don't know what Process Viewer is or where it comes from, but here's a guess at what might be happening. Perhaps you're running Process Viewer on a version of MacOS X that is newer than the version your Process Viewer was built for, with the result being that it's looking at incorrect kernel locations for data. Martin
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 20:04 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <201220142004301264%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67742 |
In article <myh9wqesgk.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> writes: > > > In article <201220141430104225%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse > > <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > > > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > > > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. These had > > > strange names like the Apple logo, the infinity sumbol, or a few other > > > weird characters. I think they were all Root processes. Anyone know > > > what these are? > > > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I > > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a > > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as > > shown in the top entry of this screengrab. > > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg > > Most are single character names. A few have been two to three > > characters. They could just be artefacts of Process Viewer being too > > slow to retrieve all the information as with the impossible CPU > > percentage. It is a slow old G3 CRT iMac. > > I don't know what Process Viewer is or where it comes from, but here's > a guess at what might be happening. > > Perhaps you're running Process Viewer on a version of MacOS X that is > newer than the version your Process Viewer was built for, with the > result being that it's looking at incorrect kernel locations for data. > > Martin Process Viewer is the Apple's own app that is installed in the Utilities folder when installing OS X. They changed the name of the app in later OS versions.
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| From | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 23:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-AA3959.23323819122014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #67743 |
> > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I
> > > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a
> > > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as
> > > shown in the top entry of this screengrab.
> > > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg
MacOSX allows file names like that, but I've never heard of anything from Apple
running with a name like that. User ??? means the uid isn't a defined on your
Mac: unix allows you to use uids that are undefined to a username, but it's not
normal. This can happen for things like cp -p, tar -x -p, or running from a
network volume with different usernames.
It looks highly suspiciuous to me, like you've picked up a parasite on your
journeys through the intertubeworks.
I would suggest disconnecting your Mac from everything else, than find out
what's starting the process, disable it, then hunt around the internet for to
see if it's reported as malware.
With the activity monitor you can double click a process to inspect it and then
look through the open files tab. With Termminal you can use ps -ajx to get the
same process list.
while true
do
echo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ps -ajx
sleep 1
done
will fill you Terminal with process status every second. Once you see something
suspicious, you can hit Control-C until it stops. The information is now fixed
on the Terminal until you clear it, so you can easily copy and paste suspicious
lines to a text edittor. This is easier than trying to get screen grab at just
the right moment.
You can use the Terminal for other unix commands like lsof and netstat to track
down suspicious activity.
> Process Viewer is the Apple's own app that is installed in the
> Utilities folder when installing OS X. They changed the name of the app
> in later OS versions.
Activity Monitor or Process Viewer is a GUI version of the unix top command.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.
Be sure not to operate heavy machinery whilst on usenet.
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-23 13:10 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <231220141310091579%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67744 |
In article <chine.bleu-AA3959.23323819122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought I > > > > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get a > > > > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as > > > > shown in the top entry of this screengrab. > > > > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg > > MacOSX allows file names like that, but I've never heard of anything from > Apple > running with a name like that. User ??? means the uid isn't a defined on your > Mac: unix allows you to use uids that are undefined to a username, but it's > not > normal. This can happen for things like cp -p, tar -x -p, or running from a > network volume with different usernames. > > It looks highly suspiciuous to me, like you've picked up a parasite on your > journeys through the intertubeworks. > > I would suggest disconnecting your Mac from everything else, than find out > what's starting the process, disable it, then hunt around the internet for to > see if it's reported as malware. > > With the activity monitor you can double click a process to inspect it and > then > look through the open files tab. Process Viewer with early Mac OS versions doesn't do that. All it does is display the information in the screengrab. Doubleclicking does not do anything and there is no more information available from menu options. > With Termminal you can use ps -ajx to get > the > same process list. > while true > do > echo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > ps -ajx > sleep 1 > done > will fill you Terminal with process status every second. Once you see > something > suspicious, you can hit Control-C until it stops. The information is now > fixed > on the Terminal until you clear it, so you can easily copy and paste > suspicious > lines to a text edittor. This is easier than trying to get screen grab at > just > the right moment. > > You can use the Terminal for other unix commands like lsof and netstat to > track > down suspicious activity. These processes are very quick. With Process Viewer set to 5 second updates they appear and then disappear at the next update. There is no real way to track them or see the information. They also seem to be random and it is not possible to tell when they appear. They may not even exist and be just artefacts from a slow computer. The real process underneath in Process View sometimes has the same CPU and RAM data.
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| From | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-22 16:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-1BA28B.16242022122014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #67763 |
In article <231220141310091579%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > In article > <chine.bleu-AA3959.23323819122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri > Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I was wrong. They are so quick to appear and disappear that I thought > > > > > I > > > > > had read them as root. They are instead ??? user. It is tricky to get > > > > > a > > > > > screengrab of one due to the speed and being random. I did get one as > > > > > shown in the top entry of this screengrab. > > > > > http://s12.postimg.org/aspu6wkgd/Process_Viewer.jpg > > > > MacOSX allows file names like that, but I've never heard of anything from > > Apple > > running with a name like that. User ??? means the uid isn't a defined on > > your > > Mac: unix allows you to use uids that are undefined to a username, but it's > > not > > normal. This can happen for things like cp -p, tar -x -p, or running from a > > network volume with different usernames. > > > > It looks highly suspiciuous to me, like you've picked up a parasite on your > > journeys through the intertubeworks. > > > > I would suggest disconnecting your Mac from everything else, than find out > > what's starting the process, disable it, then hunt around the internet for > > to > > see if it's reported as malware. > > > > With the activity monitor you can double click a process to inspect it and > > then > > look through the open files tab. > > Process Viewer with early Mac OS versions doesn't do that. All it does > is display the information in the screengrab. Doubleclicking does not > do anything and there is no more information available from menu > options. > > > > > With Termminal you can use ps -ajx to get > > the > > same process list. > > while true > > do > > echo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > ps -ajx > > sleep 1 > > done > > will fill you Terminal with process status every second. Once you see > > something > > suspicious, you can hit Control-C until it stops. The information is now > > fixed > > on the Terminal until you clear it, so you can easily copy and paste > > suspicious > > lines to a text edittor. This is easier than trying to get screen grab at > > just > > the right moment. > > > > You can use the Terminal for other unix commands like lsof and netstat to > > track > > down suspicious activity. > > These processes are very quick. With Process Viewer set to 5 second > updates they appear and then disappear at the next update. There is no > real way to track them or see the information. They also seem to be > random and it is not possible to tell when they appear. > > They may not even exist and be just artefacts from a slow computer. The > real process underneath in Process View sometimes has the same CPU and > RAM data. You can use the Terminal to run shell commands like ps. Their output stays on the terminal screen scroll back until you clear it. You can connect ps process ids to lsof and then to netstat to get an idea what a process is using. Again you can keep that on the scroll back. Once it occurs, Control-C and then look back for the information. -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder. Be sure not to operate heavy machinery whilst on usenet.
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-23 19:15 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <231220141915359669%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67764 |
In article <chine.bleu-1BA28B.16242022122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <231220141310091579%mickey@mousehouse.com>, > Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > In article > > <chine.bleu-AA3959.23323819122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri > > Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > With Termminal you can use ps -ajx to get > > > the > > > same process list. > > > while true > > > do > > > echo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > ps -ajx > > > sleep 1 > > > done > > > will fill you Terminal with process status every second. Once you see > > > something > > > suspicious, you can hit Control-C until it stops. The information is now > > > fixed > > > on the Terminal until you clear it, so you can easily copy and paste > > > suspicious > > > lines to a text edittor. This is easier than trying to get screen grab at > > > just > > > the right moment. > > > > > > You can use the Terminal for other unix commands like lsof and netstat to > > > track > > > down suspicious activity. > > > > These processes are very quick. With Process Viewer set to 5 second > > updates they appear and then disappear at the next update. There is no > > real way to track them or see the information. They also seem to be > > random and it is not possible to tell when they appear. > > > > They may not even exist and be just artefacts from a slow computer. The > > real process underneath in Process View sometimes has the same CPU and > > RAM data. > > You can use the Terminal to run shell commands like ps. Their output stays on > the terminal screen scroll back until you clear it. You can connect ps > process > ids to lsof and then to netstat to get an idea what a process is using. Again > you can keep that on the scroll back. Once it occurs, Control-C and then look > back for the information. Thanks for the tip. Terminal doesn't like that 'while do' script. The ps command works but is difficult to catch one of the werid processes. In Process Viewer I did manage to click on one of the '???' user processes which had a blank name and the bottom panel displays this information Process ID: 536 Parent Process ID: -1478489552 ((null)) Process Group ID: -1559822204 Saved User ID: -1879010612 (???) A process with the Yen symbol as the name also had similar information of negative numbers.
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-12-23 11:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-D69A8C.11160223122014@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #67774 |
In article <231220141915359669%mickey@mousehouse.com>, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > In article > <chine.bleu-1BA28B.16242022122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri > Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > > In article <231220141310091579%mickey@mousehouse.com>, > > Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > > In article > > > <chine.bleu-AA3959.23323819122014@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri > > > Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > With Termminal you can use ps -ajx to get > > > > the > > > > same process list. > > > > while true > > > > do > > > > echo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > ps -ajx > > > > sleep 1 > > > > done > > > > will fill you Terminal with process status every second. Once you see > > > > something > > > > suspicious, you can hit Control-C until it stops. The information is > > > > now > > > > fixed > > > > on the Terminal until you clear it, so you can easily copy and paste > > > > suspicious > > > > lines to a text edittor. This is easier than trying to get screen grab > > > > at > > > > just > > > > the right moment. > > > > > > > > You can use the Terminal for other unix commands like lsof and netstat > > > > to > > > > track > > > > down suspicious activity. > > > > > > These processes are very quick. With Process Viewer set to 5 second > > > updates they appear and then disappear at the next update. There is no > > > real way to track them or see the information. They also seem to be > > > random and it is not possible to tell when they appear. > > > > > > They may not even exist and be just artefacts from a slow computer. The > > > real process underneath in Process View sometimes has the same CPU and > > > RAM data. > > > > You can use the Terminal to run shell commands like ps. Their output stays > > on > > the terminal screen scroll back until you clear it. You can connect ps > > process > > ids to lsof and then to netstat to get an idea what a process is using. > > Again > > you can keep that on the scroll back. Once it occurs, Control-C and then > > look > > back for the information. > > Thanks for the tip. Terminal doesn't like that 'while do' script. The > ps command works but is difficult to catch one of the werid processes. You could use "top", which is the Terminal command that Process Viewer is similar to. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-24 16:34 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <241220141634272284%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67777 |
In article <barmar-D69A8C.11160223122014@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > You could use "top", which is the Terminal command that Process Viewer > is similar to. I used "top -l2000" and piped the ouput to a text file while watching Process Viewer for a weird process name. Once one appeared I clicked on it to get the ID number. I waited a few more Process Viewer updates and then stopped the Terminal "top" command. Performing a Find in the text file doesn't find the ID number for the weird process name from Process Viewer. I tried a few weird processes, but none turn up in the "top" command's output. Stranger and stranger.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-24 14:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cg023mFtkgjU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67785 |
On 2014-12-24, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > In article <barmar-D69A8C.11160223122014@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> >> You could use "top", which is the Terminal command that Process Viewer >> is similar to. > > I used "top -l2000" and piped the ouput to a text file while watching > Process Viewer for a weird process name. Once one appeared I clicked on > it to get the ID number. I waited a few more Process Viewer updates and > then stopped the Terminal "top" command. > > Performing a Find in the text file doesn't find the ID number for the > weird process name from Process Viewer. I tried a few weird processes, > but none turn up in the "top" command's output. > > Stranger and stranger. This is a very old version of Mac OS X, right? It's quite possible you're just seeing a bug in Process Viewer that causes it to show processes that aren't actually there. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-25 19:31 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <251220141931211895%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67801 |
In article <cg023mFtkgjU3@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-12-24, Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> wrote: > > In article <barmar-D69A8C.11160223122014@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, > > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >> > >> You could use "top", which is the Terminal command that Process Viewer > >> is similar to. > > > > I used "top -l2000" and piped the ouput to a text file while watching > > Process Viewer for a weird process name. Once one appeared I clicked on > > it to get the ID number. I waited a few more Process Viewer updates and > > then stopped the Terminal "top" command. > > > > Performing a Find in the text file doesn't find the ID number for the > > weird process name from Process Viewer. I tried a few weird processes, > > but none turn up in the "top" command's output. > > > > Stranger and stranger. > > This is a very old version of Mac OS X, right? It's quite possible > you're just seeing a bug in Process Viewer that causes it to show > processes that aren't actually there. That was one of my original thoughts. Just artefacts from the slow computer not being able to retrieve and display the information fast enough and ending up with a bit of garbage being displayed.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-12-20 03:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54953086$0$54650$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #67735 |
On 14-12-19 20:30, Mickey MacMouse wrote: > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. What version of OS-X are you running ? Once the version is known, people here would be able to tell you what mechanisms exist to launch pocesses in background. For instance, i Snow Leopard, there is launchd but also older xinit, cron and possibly others. Once you know what mechanisms exist, you can look at their configs/log files for tell tale signs of those processes launched by numeric user. The OS-X version will also determine how users are defined on your system and what tools you use to get a list of all uid gids that exist on your system and spot the ones without names associated with them.
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| From | Mickey MacMouse <mickey@mousehouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-21 09:48 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <211220140948558843%mickey@mousehouse.com> |
| In reply to | #67745 |
In article <54953086$0$54650$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-12-19 20:30, Mickey MacMouse wrote: > > > > I was just looking at Process Viewer to check CPU usage of an app and > > spotted a few weird processes popping up and disappearing. > > > What version of OS-X are you running ? > > Once the version is known, people here would be able to tell you what > mechanisms exist to launch pocesses in background. For instance, i Snow > Leopard, there is launchd but also older xinit, cron and possibly others. > > Once you know what mechanisms exist, you can look at their configs/log > files for tell tale signs of those processes launched by numeric user. > > The OS-X version will also determine how users are defined on your > system and what tools you use to get a list of all uid gids that exist > on your system and spot the ones without names associated with them. Sorry. I thought I had said. It is an old G3 CRT iMac with 10.1 or maybe 10.2. I can't check right now because it is at different location.
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