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Beach Ball Blues

Started bycsampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson)
First post2014-06-24 12:24 -0700
Last post2014-06-25 09:58 -0400
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  Beach Ball Blues csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2014-06-24 12:24 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-24 20:03 +0000
      Re: Beach Ball Blues csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2014-06-26 17:42 -0700
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-26 20:48 -0400
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-27 01:56 +0000
          Re: Beach Ball Blues csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2014-08-05 17:35 -0700
            Re: Beach Ball Blues Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-05 22:28 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues "Jonathan L. Parker" <jlparker001@GOAWAYSPAMMERsbcglobal.net> - 2014-06-24 18:02 -0500
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-25 13:22 +1200
        Re: Beach Ball Blues "Jonathan L. Parker" <jlparker001@GOAWAYSPAMMERsbcglobal.net> - 2014-06-25 00:39 -0500
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-25 18:10 +1200
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Mike Smith <fake.address@fake.com> - 2014-06-27 01:21 +0000
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-25 13:28 +1200
      Re: Beach Ball Blues csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2014-06-25 10:04 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-27 07:40 -0700
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-28 12:28 +1200
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-08 08:34 -0400
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-09 09:32 +1200
          Re: Beach Ball Blues nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-08 19:19 -0400
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-06 08:30 -0700
        Re: Beach Ball Blues android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-06 18:26 +0200
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-06 11:16 -0700
            Re: Beach Ball Blues nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-06 14:19 -0400
              Re: Beach Ball Blues Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-06 11:48 -0700
                Re: Beach Ball Blues Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-06 18:59 +0000
                  Re: Beach Ball Blues Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-06 15:54 -0400
                Re: Beach Ball Blues dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-08-07 11:16 +1200
                  Re: Beach Ball Blues Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-07 08:36 -0700
            Re: Beach Ball Blues android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-07 16:06 +0200
        Re: Beach Ball Blues nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-06 22:52 -0400
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-06 21:25 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Rick Blaine <boss@cafeamericain.ma> - 2014-06-25 09:58 -0400

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#63060

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2014-08-06 18:26 +0200
Message-ID<c4f39mFtce0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63059
In article <v5WdnasZ19C113_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Your Name wrote:
> 
> > I'm still using a G3 running Mac OS X 10.2
> 
> Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?
> 
> I have 10.2 on my G3 too, but I always run 9.1 unless I especially need 
> the OS X features.
> 
You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)
-- 
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

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#63061

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-08-06 11:16 -0700
Message-ID<fPOdnaOnONS57H_OnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63060
android wrote:
> In article <v5WdnasZ19C113_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>  Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?
>>
>> I have 10.2 on my G3 too, but I always run 9.1 unless I especially need 
>> the OS X features.
>>
> You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)

I've thought about that, but doesn't it take up much more disk space? 
I've only got 1GB free, and of course the G3 won't boot from a different 
disk.

Paul Magnussen

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#63062

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-08-06 14:19 -0400
Message-ID<060820141419040375%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#63061
In article <fPOdnaOnONS57H_OnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?
> >>
> >> I have 10.2 on my G3 too, but I always run 9.1 unless I especially need 
> >> the OS X features.
> >>
> > You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)
> 
> I've thought about that, but doesn't it take up much more disk space? 
> I've only got 1GB free, and of course the G3 won't boot from a different 
> disk.

all macs can boot from a separate disk.

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#63063

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-08-06 11:48 -0700
Message-ID<c6WdnbzV75cw5X_OnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63062
nospam wrote:
> In article <fPOdnaOnONS57H_OnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 

>>> You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)
>> I've thought about that, but doesn't it take up much more disk space? 
>> I've only got 1GB free, and of course the G3 won't boot from a different 
>> disk.
> 
> all macs can boot from a separate disk.

Yes of course they can, I used to boot the G3 from a Jaz drive; I don't 
know what I was thinking.

There was SOME reason I didn't go to 10.4, and obviously I 
mis-remembered it.

I'll suck it and see.  Thanks.

Paul Magnussen

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#63064

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-08-06 18:59 +0000
Message-ID<c4fc8iFpsiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63063
On 2014-08-06, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I'll suck it and see.  Thanks.

That's what she said. : D

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#63069

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2014-08-06 15:54 -0400
Message-ID<OsednS7ua-J0Gn_OnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63064
In article <c4fc8iFpsiU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-08-06, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'll suck it and see.  Thanks.
> 
> That's what she said. : D

 But not nearly often enough....
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#63070

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2014-08-07 11:16 +1200
Message-ID<1lq07t8.184er0i19ab4w0N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#63063
Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> nospam wrote:
> > In article <fPOdnaOnONS57H_OnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> > Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> 
> >>> You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)
> >> I've thought about that, but doesn't it take up much more disk space?
> >> I've only got 1GB free, and of course the G3 won't boot from a different
> >> disk.
> > 
> > all macs can boot from a separate disk.
> 
> Yes of course they can, I used to boot the G3 from a Jaz drive; I don't
> know what I was thinking.
> 
> There was SOME reason I didn't go to 10.4, and obviously I 
> mis-remembered it.

Is it a beige PowerMac G3? If so, a reason for not having gone to 10.4
is that 10.3 and 10.4 won't run on those models (without third party
workarounds).

No such issue with the PowerMac G3 (Blue & White), which is officially
supported by 10.4.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#63081

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-08-07 08:36 -0700
Message-ID<svudnaxd29iIAH7OnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63070
David Empson wrote:

> Is it a beige PowerMac G3? If so, a reason for not having gone to 10.4
> is that 10.3 and 10.4 won't run on those models (without third party
> workarounds).
> 
> No such issue with the PowerMac G3 (Blue & White), which is officially
> supported by 10.4.

It's blue and white, thanks.

Paul Magnussen

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#63079

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2014-08-07 16:06 +0200
Message-ID<c4hffuFdss5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63061
In article <fPOdnaOnONS57H_OnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> android wrote:
> > In article <v5WdnasZ19C113_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> >  Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >> Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?
> >>
> >> I have 10.2 on my G3 too, but I always run 9.1 unless I especially need 
> >> the OS X features.
> >>
> > You might wanna upgrade to 10.4. Much faster! ;-)
> 
> I've thought about that, but doesn't it take up much more disk space? 
> I've only got 1GB free, and of course the G3 won't boot from a different 
> disk.
> 
I have it on a blueberry iBook. I've changed the HD of course. It's 40 
GB now and in a bag and I don't remember how i allocated the disk space 
exactly. Not fast but much faster than Puma and Jaguar. :-)
-- 
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

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#63074

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-08-06 22:52 -0400
Message-ID<060820142252034202%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#63059
In article <v5WdnasZ19C113_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > I'm still using a G3 running Mac OS X 10.2
> 
> Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?

a g3 with 10.2 makes turtles look fast.

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#63075

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-06 21:25 -0700
Message-ID<060820142125119200%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#63074
In article <060820142252034202%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <v5WdnasZ19C113_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > > I'm still using a G3 running Mac OS X 10.2
> > 
> > Isn't it turtle-slow?  How much RAM, have you got?
> 
> a g3 with 10.2 makes turtles look fast.

But what about snails?

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#61404

FromRick Blaine <boss@cafeamericain.ma>
Date2014-06-25 09:58 -0400
Message-ID<loekii$iin$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#61390
On 6/24/14, 3:24 PM, Charles H. Sampson wrote:
>       I know its a pinwheel, not a beach ball, but I like the
> alliteration and the catchy subject.
>
>       I'm still using an old G4 runnng Tiger. I know it's almost at
> retirement age but that's more because of software rather than hardware
> (I think). Nobody has updated their software for Tiger in a long time
> and the machine is functioning poorly in a changing environment.  What I
> mean by that is when I access any part of the Internet that can change
> with time, all bets are off. Safari hangs up on a number of web sites,
> for example.
>
>       However, as a desktop personal computer, it's still got plenty of
> oomph. For me, that means that I can use Microsoft Office (2008),
> FileMaker Pro (8.0v3), Eudora (POP doesn't change), and MacSOUP (SOUP
> doesn't change). I use my MacBook Pro when I need to go to the
> non-longer-working websites or use Google Earth.
>
>       Given that the software hasn't changed in years, I expect things to
> be stable as long as I stay away from the Internet. What I've noticed,
> however, is that it takes forever to perform some really basic, simple
> tasks. The pinwheel spins and spins. One such task is opening folders,
> even some that contain only ten or so items. That can take as long as 30
> seconds. Stickies opens nicely (It's a startup item) but I have to wait
> minutes to be able to modify a stickie; more pinwheel spinning.
>
>       This is just an informational question. Does anyone have any idea
> what's going on? I thought that maybe the main disk is failing,
> requiring a bunch of retries, but it's a S.M.A.R.T. disk and Disk
> Utility says that it's reporting everything fine.
>
>                          Charlie
>


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