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Two Yosemite Features I Like

Started byTaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com>
First post2014-08-03 22:18 -0500
Last post2014-08-05 18:22 -0400
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  Two Yosemite Features I Like TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-08-03 22:18 -0500
    Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-04 18:23 -0400
      Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-04 17:50 -0500
        Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-04 19:59 -0400
        Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-05 14:14 +1200
      Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-08-05 09:56 +1000
        Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-04 21:58 -0500
          Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-05 17:15 +1200
      Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 20:10 -0400
        Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 06:35 -0400
          Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 07:09 -0400
            Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-05 10:15 -0700
              Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 17:37 -0400
              Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:18 -0400
            Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 17:11 -0400
              Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:22 -0400

#63006 — Two Yosemite Features I Like

FromTaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com>
Date2014-08-03 22:18 -0500
SubjectTwo Yosemite Features I Like
Message-ID<c48cbbFgo7nU1@mid.individual.net>
First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier 
to see exactly what it is going to do.

Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just 
cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that 
my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder 
and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and 
configured to not be seen unless selected.

Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the 
blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu 
color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a 
picture of a cloud formation.

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#63020

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2014-08-04 18:23 -0400
Message-ID<040820141823119013%star@sky.net>
In reply to#63006
TaliesinSoft:

> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier 
> to see exactly what it is going to do.
> 
> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just 
> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that 
> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder 
> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and 
> configured to not be seen unless selected.
> 
> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the 
> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu 
> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a 
> picture of a cloud formation.

Bzzzzt! That was three, not two!

Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will
be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days
when Macs were Macs.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#63021

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2014-08-04 17:50 -0500
Message-ID<c4ah1sFbtiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63020
> TaliesinSoft:
>
>> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier
>> to see exactly what it is going to do.
>>
>> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just
>> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that
>> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder
>> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and
>> configured to not be seen unless selected.
>>
>> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the
>> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu
>> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a
>> picture of a cloud formation.
>
> Bzzzzt! That was three, not two!
>
> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will
> be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days
> when Macs were Macs.
>
Whiner checking in...

I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come together with iOS's new version.  BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7.  Whoever thought the default system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability.  Not to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho
se pale colors to delineate between sections.  Pure idiocy imo.

The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that I actually care.

I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML until the actual release of Yosemite.  IF some much needed look and feel changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade.  If not, I'll be deciding which OS I'll switch to.  Fortunately for me all of this is just toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the mos
t part.


--


Lloyd
from SurfacePro via NewsgroupsRT

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#63023

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2014-08-04 19:59 -0400
Message-ID<040820141959258676%star@sky.net>
In reply to#63021
TaliesinSoft:
> >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier
> >> to see exactly what it is going to do.
> >>
> >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just
> >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that
> >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder
> >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and
> >> configured to not be seen unless selected.
> >>
> >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the
> >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu
> >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a
> >> picture of a cloud formation.

Davoud:
> > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two!
> >
> > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will
> > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days
> > when Macs were Macs.

Lloyd Parsons:
> Whiner checking in...

> I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come
> together with iOS's new version.  BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look
> and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7.  Whoever thought the default
> system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability.  Not
> to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho
> se pale colors to delineate between sections.  Pure idiocy imo.

> The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that
> I actually care.

> I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML
> until the actual release of Yosemite.  IF some much needed look and feel
> changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade.  If not, I'll be
> deciding which OS I'll switch to.  Fortunately for me all of this is just
> toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the most
> part.

My experience with the Mac, which goes back to late 1985, is that if
I'm not entirely happy with the look and feel of a new OS I soon become
accustomed to it and soon enough forget what it was I didn't like about
it. The same goes for new software versions, whether from Apple or
other developers.

32 years of living in the so-called Third World (S.E. Asia, the Muddle
East, and East Africa) made me quite flexible and more prone to adapt
than to complain. One place has no water, another no electricity,
another has neither. Next place I get a pretty nice mud-brick house
with glass in the windows and an earthquake knocks it down. Next place
my office is shabby, but that's not a problem because the PFLP blows it
up in a rocket attack and it gets rebuilt. My Mac Plus survives. Adapt
or find a less interesting life.

I can't forget what I don't like about that other popular OS, however.
It fails utterly for me as a tool, and as a toy it's no fun because it
seems as if there is always something broken and I prefer to spend my
time playing with my toys, not trying to fix them.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#63029

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-08-05 14:14 +1200
Message-ID<050820141414008056%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#63021
In article <c4ah1sFbtiU1@mid.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > TaliesinSoft:
> >
> >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier
> >> to see exactly what it is going to do.
> >>
> >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just
> >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that
> >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder
> >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and
> >> configured to not be seen unless selected.
> >>
> >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the
> >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu
> >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a
> >> picture of a cloud formation.
> >
> > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two!
> >
> > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will
> > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days
> > when Macs were Macs.
> 
> Whiner checking in...
> 
> I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come
> together with iOS's new version.  BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look
> and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7.  Whoever thought the default
> system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability.  Not
> to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho
> se pale colors to delineate between sections.  Pure idiocy imo.
> 
> The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that
> I actually care.
> 
> I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML
> until the actual release of Yosemite.  IF some much needed look and feel
> changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade.  If not, I'll be
> deciding which OS I'll switch to.  Fortunately for me all of this is just
> toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the mos
> t part.

Johnny Ive is slowly moving the Apple OSes towards a shadow-style, like
the iPod adverts were.  ;-)


There is nothing wrong with System 6 ... fast, effcient, takes up very
little storage space, and is still much better than anything Microsloth
has managed to "create".  :-p

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#63022

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-08-05 09:56 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-35A0BE.09565005082014@aioe.org>
In reply to#63020
In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite.

What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps?

-- 
dorayme

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#63031

FromLloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2014-08-04 21:58 -0500
Message-ID<lrph9f$bdi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63022
On 2014-08-04 23:56:50 +0000, dorayme said:

> In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite.
> 
> What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps?

One brown in color because of where it was pulled from...  :)

-- 
Lloyd

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#63033

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-08-05 17:15 +1200
Message-ID<050820141715140201%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#63031
In article <lrph9f$bdi$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
<lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2014-08-04 23:56:50 +0000, dorayme said:
> > In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite.
> > 
> > What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps?
> 
> One brown in color because of where it was pulled from...  :)

Nope. "Tautological Fact" = A fact which you were "taut" by a teacher,
logically.  ;-)

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#63024

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-04 20:10 -0400
Message-ID<lrp7dl$njq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63020
On 2014-08-04 18:23:11 -0400, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> TaliesinSoft:
> 
>> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier
>> to see exactly what it is going to do.
>> 
>> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just
>> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that
>> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder
>> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and
>> configured to not be seen unless selected.
>> 
>> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the
>> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu
>> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a
>> picture of a cloud formation.
> 
> Bzzzzt! That was three, not two!
> 
> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will
> be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days
> when Macs were Macs.

Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite.

Neither are actually true.

Some stuff I like, and some i don't... which is, generally, the case 
with everything in life.

To quote the Blues Brothers: "Life is like a shit sandwich.  The more 
bread 'ya got, the less shit 'ya gotta eat."
-- 
Computers are like Old Testaments Gods. Lots of rules and no mercy.

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#63037

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2014-08-05 06:35 -0400
Message-ID<050820140635354351%star@sky.net>
In reply to#63024
FPP:
> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite.

Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS
better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a
shorter word for that. It's called "user."

> Neither are actually true.

Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#63038

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-05 07:09 -0400
Message-ID<lrqe1d$431$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63037
On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> FPP:
>> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite.
> 
> Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS
> better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a
> shorter word for that. It's called "user."
> 
>> Neither are actually true.
> 
> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...

Nope...  It can go both ways.

"The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is 
more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb. 
When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural 
verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. 
If you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will 
probably want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow 
your own inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after 
neither."

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-or-neither-are

But 

you got the other part right on the money.  I'm a (graphics) 
professional who finds the Mac FAR superior that any other OS.

So far, I'm liking Yosemite - minus a few shortcomings.  The real test 
will be whether it's faster and more stable going forward.
-- 
Words are like leaves, in that where they most abound, the fruit of 
thought is seldom found.

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#63042

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2014-08-05 10:15 -0700
Message-ID<lrr3en$usj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63038
On 8/5/14   PDT, 4:09 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:
>
>> FPP:
>>> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite.
>>
>> Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS
>> better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a
>> shorter word for that. It's called "user."
>>
>>> Neither are actually true.
>>
>> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...
>
> Nope...  It can go both ways.
>
> "The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is
> more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb.
> When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural
> verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. If
> you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will probably
> want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow your own
> inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after neither."

How about "both are false"!?

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#63045

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2014-08-05 17:37 -0400
Message-ID<050820141737466279%star@sky.net>
In reply to#63042
Davoud:
> >> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...

John McWilliams:
> How about "both are false"!?

Simple enough. If both are false, then neither is true.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#63046

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-05 18:18 -0400
Message-ID<lrrl75$6l9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63042
On 2014-08-05 13:15:03 -0400, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:

> On 8/5/14   PDT, 4:09 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:
>> 
>>> FPP:
>>>> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite.
>>> 
>>> Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS
>>> better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a
>>> shorter word for that. It's called "user."
>>> 
>>>> Neither are actually true.
>>> 
>>> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...
>> 
>> Nope...  It can go both ways.
>> 
>> "The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is
>> more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb.
>> When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural
>> verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. If
>> you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will probably
>> want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow your own
>> inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after neither."
> 
> How about "both are false"!?

Or neither are false?  :-)
-- 
“Irony is wasted on the stupid”  -Oscar Wilde

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#63044

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2014-08-05 17:11 -0400
Message-ID<050820141711473413%star@sky.net>
In reply to#63038
FPP:
> >> Neither are actually true.

Davoud:
> > Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...

FPP:
> Nope...  It can go both ways.
> 
> ...
> http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-o
> r-neither-are

Don't turn to the dark side and lead us to anarchy and damnation. Don't
believe what undereducated "New Age" revisionist "grammar experts" tell
you about English usage. Neither *is* . Just stretch it out to its true
extent: Neither one is... And if the phrase were Neither of the two...
it would still be is because Neither *is* .

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#63047

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-05 18:22 -0400
Message-ID<lrrlfm$8j3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#63044
On 2014-08-05 17:11:47 -0400, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> FPP:
>>>> Neither are actually true.
> 
> Davoud:
>>> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ...
> 
> FPP:
>> Nope...  It can go both ways.
>> 
>> ...
>> http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-o
>> r-neither-are
> 
> Don't turn to the dark side and lead us to anarchy and damnation. Don't
> believe what undereducated "New Age" revisionist "grammar experts" tell
> you about English usage. Neither *is* . Just stretch it out to its true
> extent: Neither one is... And if the phrase were Neither of the two...
> it would still be is because Neither *is* .

Did I mention Dan Harmon's comment on the internet, yet?

"You shouldn't take the Internet to seriously because the Internet is 
not people. People are more important than anything. PEOPLE IS MORE 
IMPORTANT THAN EVERYTHING, EVEN GRAMMAR... Remember, no matter how much 
that technology allows you to connect to people, you should never start 
to worship the connection more than the people it connects you with."
-- 
All those who believe in telekinesis raise my hand.

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