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| Started by | TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> |
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| First post | 2014-08-03 22:18 -0500 |
| Last post | 2014-08-05 18:22 -0400 |
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Two Yosemite Features I Like TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-08-03 22:18 -0500
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-04 18:23 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-04 17:50 -0500
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-04 19:59 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-05 14:14 +1200
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-08-05 09:56 +1000
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-04 21:58 -0500
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-05 17:15 +1200
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 20:10 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 06:35 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 07:09 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 17:37 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:18 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-05 17:11 -0400
Re: Two Yosemite Features I Like FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:22 -0400
| From | TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-03 22:18 -0500 |
| Subject | Two Yosemite Features I Like |
| Message-ID | <c48cbbFgo7nU1@mid.individual.net> |
First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier to see exactly what it is going to do. Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and configured to not be seen unless selected. Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a picture of a cloud formation. -- James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-04 18:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <040820141823119013%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #63006 |
TaliesinSoft: > First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier > to see exactly what it is going to do. > > Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just > cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that > my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder > and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and > configured to not be seen unless selected. > > Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the > blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu > color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a > picture of a cloud formation. Bzzzzt! That was three, not two! Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days when Macs were Macs. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-04 17:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c4ah1sFbtiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #63020 |
> TaliesinSoft: > >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier >> to see exactly what it is going to do. >> >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and >> configured to not be seen unless selected. >> >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a >> picture of a cloud formation. > > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two! > > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days > when Macs were Macs. > Whiner checking in... I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come together with iOS's new version. BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7. Whoever thought the default system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability. Not to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho se pale colors to delineate between sections. Pure idiocy imo. The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that I actually care. I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML until the actual release of Yosemite. IF some much needed look and feel changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade. If not, I'll be deciding which OS I'll switch to. Fortunately for me all of this is just toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the mos t part. -- Lloyd from SurfacePro via NewsgroupsRT
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-04 19:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <040820141959258676%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #63021 |
TaliesinSoft: > >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier > >> to see exactly what it is going to do. > >> > >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just > >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that > >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder > >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and > >> configured to not be seen unless selected. > >> > >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the > >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu > >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a > >> picture of a cloud formation. Davoud: > > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two! > > > > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will > > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days > > when Macs were Macs. Lloyd Parsons: > Whiner checking in... > I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come > together with iOS's new version. BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look > and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7. Whoever thought the default > system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability. Not > to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho > se pale colors to delineate between sections. Pure idiocy imo. > The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that > I actually care. > I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML > until the actual release of Yosemite. IF some much needed look and feel > changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade. If not, I'll be > deciding which OS I'll switch to. Fortunately for me all of this is just > toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the most > part. My experience with the Mac, which goes back to late 1985, is that if I'm not entirely happy with the look and feel of a new OS I soon become accustomed to it and soon enough forget what it was I didn't like about it. The same goes for new software versions, whether from Apple or other developers. 32 years of living in the so-called Third World (S.E. Asia, the Muddle East, and East Africa) made me quite flexible and more prone to adapt than to complain. One place has no water, another no electricity, another has neither. Next place I get a pretty nice mud-brick house with glass in the windows and an earthquake knocks it down. Next place my office is shabby, but that's not a problem because the PFLP blows it up in a rocket attack and it gets rebuilt. My Mac Plus survives. Adapt or find a less interesting life. I can't forget what I don't like about that other popular OS, however. It fails utterly for me as a tool, and as a toy it's no fun because it seems as if there is always something broken and I prefer to spend my time playing with my toys, not trying to fix them. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 14:14 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <050820141414008056%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #63021 |
In article <c4ah1sFbtiU1@mid.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > > TaliesinSoft: > > > >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier > >> to see exactly what it is going to do. > >> > >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just > >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that > >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder > >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and > >> configured to not be seen unless selected. > >> > >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the > >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu > >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a > >> picture of a cloud formation. > > > > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two! > > > > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will > > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days > > when Macs were Macs. > > Whiner checking in... > > I like lots of things about Yosemite and how all the things will come > together with iOS's new version. BUT, I'm not enamored at all with the look > and feel of it, no more than I am with iOS7. Whoever thought the default > system fonts should be that thin needs a remedial class in readability. Not > to mention the overuse of pale colors and then use shadings of tho > se pale colors to delineate between sections. Pure idiocy imo. > > The overall flatness isn't anything good either, but it isn't bad enough that > I actually care. > > I'll be switching back from the open Beta soon and will continue to run ML > until the actual release of Yosemite. IF some much needed look and feel > changes are made in the actual release I will upgrade. If not, I'll be > deciding which OS I'll switch to. Fortunately for me all of this is just > toys to play with so it really isn't a big thing to change for the mos > t part. Johnny Ive is slowly moving the Apple OSes towards a shadow-style, like the iPod adverts were. ;-) There is nothing wrong with System 6 ... fast, effcient, takes up very little storage space, and is still much better than anything Microsloth has managed to "create". :-p
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 09:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-35A0BE.09565005082014@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #63020 |
In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps? -- dorayme
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-04 21:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lrph9f$bdi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63022 |
On 2014-08-04 23:56:50 +0000, dorayme said: > In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> > wrote: > >> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. > > What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps? One brown in color because of where it was pulled from... :) -- Lloyd
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 17:15 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <050820141715140201%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #63031 |
In article <lrph9f$bdi$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > On 2014-08-04 23:56:50 +0000, dorayme said: > > In article <040820141823119013%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. > > > > What sort of fact is this? A tautological one perhaps? > > One brown in color because of where it was pulled from... :) Nope. "Tautological Fact" = A fact which you were "taut" by a teacher, logically. ;-)
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-04 20:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lrp7dl$njq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63020 |
On 2014-08-04 18:23:11 -0400, Davoud <star@sky.net> said: > TaliesinSoft: > >> First: I like the new form of Spotlight which makes it so much easier >> to see exactly what it is going to do. >> >> Second: I also like the new appearance of the dock which is just >> cleaner in appeaarance. I'm one who is somewhat of a minimalist in that >> my dock only shows the currently open applications along with Finder >> and Trash. I have the dock centered at the bottom of the screen and >> configured to not be seen unless selected. >> >> Third: I like the dark menu with the white lettering along with the >> blue accent which highlights the current selectable item. This menu >> color scheme haarmonizes nicely with my screen background which is a >> picture of a cloud formation. > > Bzzzzt! That was three, not two! > > Fact is, everyone but the whiners will like Yosemite. The whiners will > be asking if their new iMac can go back to System 6, back to the days > when Macs were Macs. Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite. Neither are actually true. Some stuff I like, and some i don't... which is, generally, the case with everything in life. To quote the Blues Brothers: "Life is like a shit sandwich. The more bread 'ya got, the less shit 'ya gotta eat." -- Computers are like Old Testaments Gods. Lots of rules and no mercy.
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 06:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050820140635354351%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #63024 |
FPP: > Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite. Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a shorter word for that. It's called "user." > Neither are actually true. Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 07:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lrqe1d$431$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63037 |
On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said: > FPP: >> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite. > > Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS > better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a > shorter word for that. It's called "user." > >> Neither are actually true. > > Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... Nope... It can go both ways. "The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb. When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. If you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will probably want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow your own inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after neither." http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-or-neither-are But you got the other part right on the money. I'm a (graphics) professional who finds the Mac FAR superior that any other OS. So far, I'm liking Yosemite - minus a few shortcomings. The real test will be whether it's faster and more stable going forward. -- Words are like leaves, in that where they most abound, the fruit of thought is seldom found.
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 10:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lrr3en$usj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63038 |
On 8/5/14 PDT, 4:09 AM, FPP wrote: > On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said: > >> FPP: >>> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite. >> >> Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS >> better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a >> shorter word for that. It's called "user." >> >>> Neither are actually true. >> >> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... > > Nope... It can go both ways. > > "The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is > more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb. > When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural > verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. If > you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will probably > want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow your own > inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after neither." How about "both are false"!?
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 17:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050820141737466279%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #63042 |
Davoud: > >> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... John McWilliams: > How about "both are false"!? Simple enough. If both are false, then neither is true. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 18:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lrrl75$6l9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63042 |
On 2014-08-05 13:15:03 -0400, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said: > On 8/5/14 PDT, 4:09 AM, FPP wrote: >> On 2014-08-05 10:35:35 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said: >> >>> FPP: >>>> Which is the equivalent of saying only the fanboys will LIKE Yosemite. >>> >>> Your definition of "fanboy" being, a professional who finds the Mac OS >>> better suited to her or his pursuits than any other OS. There's a >>> shorter word for that. It's called "user." >>> >>>> Neither are actually true. >>> >>> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... >> >> Nope... It can go both ways. >> >> "The pronoun neither, then, is not invariably singular, though it is >> more often so. When formal agreement obtains, it takes a singular verb. >> When notional agreement obtains, it takes either a singular or plural >> verb. These constructions are neither nonstandard or [sic] erroneous. If >> you are writing something in a highly formal style, you will probably >> want to use formal agreement throughout. Otherwise, follow your own >> inclination in choosing singular or plural constructions after neither." > > How about "both are false"!? Or neither are false? :-) -- “Irony is wasted on the stupid” -Oscar Wilde
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 17:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050820141711473413%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #63038 |
FPP: > >> Neither are actually true. Davoud: > > Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... FPP: > Nope... It can go both ways. > > ... > http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-o > r-neither-are Don't turn to the dark side and lead us to anarchy and damnation. Don't believe what undereducated "New Age" revisionist "grammar experts" tell you about English usage. Neither *is* . Just stretch it out to its true extent: Neither one is... And if the phrase were Neither of the two... it would still be is because Neither *is* . -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-05 18:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lrrlfm$8j3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63044 |
On 2014-08-05 17:11:47 -0400, Davoud <star@sky.net> said: > FPP: >>>> Neither are actually true. > > Davoud: >>> Bzzzzt! Neither *is* ... > > FPP: >> Nope... It can go both ways. >> >> ... >> http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10304/which-is-correct-neither-is-o >> r-neither-are > > Don't turn to the dark side and lead us to anarchy and damnation. Don't > believe what undereducated "New Age" revisionist "grammar experts" tell > you about English usage. Neither *is* . Just stretch it out to its true > extent: Neither one is... And if the phrase were Neither of the two... > it would still be is because Neither *is* . Did I mention Dan Harmon's comment on the internet, yet? "You shouldn't take the Internet to seriously because the Internet is not people. People are more important than anything. PEOPLE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVERYTHING, EVEN GRAMMAR... Remember, no matter how much that technology allows you to connect to people, you should never start to worship the connection more than the people it connects you with." -- All those who believe in telekinesis raise my hand.
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