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| Started by | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| First post | 2014-07-22 12:48 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-07-26 21:28 +1000 |
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Thumb-drive format gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-22 12:48 -0700
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-22 15:56 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-22 14:40 -0700
Re: Thumb-drive format Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-23 13:15 +1200
Re: Thumb-drive format John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-23 04:55 +0100
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-23 00:01 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-23 02:56 -0700
Re: Thumb-drive format dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-23 23:48 +1200
Re: Thumb-drive format John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-23 20:30 +0100
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-23 16:39 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-23 22:33 +0100
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-23 21:50 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-23 18:08 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-24 08:54 +1000
Re: Thumb-drive format Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-23 23:09 +0100
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-23 22:43 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-23 23:04 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-24 14:37 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-24 05:37 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-24 08:43 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-24 14:40 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:48 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-29 01:06 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-28 22:35 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-24 14:40 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:51 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-29 01:18 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 05:02 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-23 17:00 -0700
Re: Thumb-drive format Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@3q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-07-22 21:19 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-22 21:49 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-22 21:49 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-23 07:56 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-24 01:26 +1200
Re: Thumb-drive format Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-23 10:11 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-23 09:33 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-23 10:12 -0400
Re: Thumb-drive format Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-23 15:57 +0100
Re: Thumb-drive format Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-23 12:41 +0000
Re: Thumb-drive format Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-07-23 08:30 -0700
Re: Thumb-drive format dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-24 10:29 +1200
Re: Thumb-drive format Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-07-26 21:28 +1000
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2014-07-24 10:29 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lpa9hh.kt4c6hzal3zkN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #62387 |
Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote: > Lewis wrote: > > > Most thumb drives are formatted FAT32. Unless you have a real reason, > > there's no need to reformat them. There are reasons NOT to reformat > > them. > > FAT32 loses the old pre-OS X type/creator information, doesn't it? It shouldn't, because with foreign file systems, OS X uses the AppleDouble-like method of storing the Finder information, resource fork (if any) and other metadata in a theoretically hidden "dot underline" file next to the file containing the data fork. The type/creator is included in this extra file. The most likely problem is if something other than OS X is manipulating files on the drive, e.g. copying, moving or renaming files on a Windows PC (or on Mac OS 9 or earlier, which uses a different naming convention and location for the extra file). If the "dot underline" file is separated from the "normal" (data fork) file, then OS X will see just the data fork and the extra stuff will have been lost. > Not that I suppose that's much of a consideration for most people. There is other metadata which can suffer the same fate. Another potential problem is that FAT32 has stricter file naming rules than HFS+, so filenames containing some symbols either can't be copied or have their names changed when copied to FAT32 volumes. I keep at least two USB flash drives on hand. I use the FAT32 one for cross-platform transfers. I use the HFS+ one for Mac-to-Mac transfers, to avoid problems with files larger than 4 GB, loss of metadata, filename limitations, etc. I also have other flash drives formatted as HFS+ which I use for things like bootable OS X installers. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> |
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| Date | 2014-07-26 21:28 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1147t9968fbamcicodu13osk6m9fm3nt1s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #62396 |
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:29:30 +1200, dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: >Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Lewis wrote: >> >> > Most thumb drives are formatted FAT32. Unless you have a real reason, >> > there's no need to reformat them. There are reasons NOT to reformat >> > them. >> >> FAT32 loses the old pre-OS X type/creator information, doesn't it? > >It shouldn't, because with foreign file systems, OS X uses the >AppleDouble-like method of storing the Finder information, resource fork >(if any) and other metadata in a theoretically hidden "dot underline" >file next to the file containing the data fork. > >The type/creator is included in this extra file. > >The most likely problem is if something other than OS X is manipulating >files on the drive, e.g. copying, moving or renaming files on a Windows >PC (or on Mac OS 9 or earlier, which uses a different naming convention >and location for the extra file). If the "dot underline" file is >separated from the "normal" (data fork) file, then OS X will see just >the data fork and the extra stuff will have been lost. > >> Not that I suppose that's much of a consideration for most people. > >There is other metadata which can suffer the same fate. > >Another potential problem is that FAT32 has stricter file naming rules >than HFS+, so filenames containing some symbols either can't be copied >or have their names changed when copied to FAT32 volumes. > >I keep at least two USB flash drives on hand. I use the FAT32 one for >cross-platform transfers. I use the HFS+ one for Mac-to-Mac transfers, >to avoid problems with files larger than 4 GB, loss of metadata, >filename limitations, etc. > >I also have other flash drives formatted as HFS+ which I use for things >like bootable OS X installers. There is a program for Windows XP that can format a USB flash drive to NTFS. Windows 7 does NTFS natively. FAT32 is limited to 4 gigs per file and one hour of HD video is 6 gigs. There is a program for Mac OSX that allows it to read and write NTFS. -- There is something outrageous about such a huge body of evidence being put together, then being confirmed in all kinds of other scientific disciplines, particularly genetics, and having other people just sort of deny it for reasons that have nothing to do with truth. – Matthew Chapman, Darwin's great-great-grandson.
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