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  Play old MID(I) files? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-19 10:37 -0700
    Re: Play old MID(I) files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-19 13:56 -0400
      Re: Play old MID(I) files? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-19 11:36 -0700
    Re: Play old MID(I) files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-19 19:00 +0000
      Re: Play old MID(I) files? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-19 12:40 -0700
      Re: Play old MID(I) files? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-20 00:07 +0000
        Re: Play old MID(I) files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-20 01:39 +0000
          Re: Play old MID(I) files? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-20 05:00 -0700
            Re: Play old MID(I) files? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-20 23:04 +1000
              Re: Play old MID(I) files? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-20 23:51 -0700
                Re: Play old MID(I) files? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-21 19:25 +1000
                  Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-21 07:59 -0700
                    Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-21 12:43 -0700
                      Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-22 00:05 -0700
                    Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-22 09:05 +1000
                      Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-22 00:07 -0700
                        Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-22 17:53 +1000
                          Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-07-22 09:49 -0500
                            Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-22 15:00 +0000
                            Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-23 08:45 +1000
    Re: Play old MID(I) files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-19 22:10 +0000

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#62314 — Play old MID(I) files?

Hello.

It looks like Apple removed MID(I) music file support to play back in 
its newer software versions like Mac OS X 10.8.5's iTunes and QuickTime 
Player. Even the latest VideoLAN Client Media Player can't play them. Is 
there a good free software that can and use SoundFont files?

Thank you in advance. :)
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#62315

In article <_tednegM9v5gMVfOnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> It looks like Apple removed MID(I) music file support to play back in 
> its newer software versions like Mac OS X 10.8.5's iTunes and QuickTime 
> Player. Even the latest VideoLAN Client Media Player can't play them. Is 
> there a good free software that can and use SoundFont files?

midi files play just fine in 10.8.5 in either quicktime player 7 or x. 

soundfont files are non-standard and need their own player.

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#62316

On 2014-07-19 17:56:03 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <_tednegM9v5gMVfOnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> 
>> It looks like Apple removed MID(I) music file support to play back in
>> its newer software versions like Mac OS X 10.8.5's iTunes and QuickTime
>> Player. Even the latest VideoLAN Client Media Player can't play them. Is
>> there a good free software that can and use SoundFont files?
> 
> midi files play just fine in 10.8.5 in either quicktime player 7 or x.
> 
> soundfont files are non-standard and need their own player.

With newer versions of the OS, you can use QuickTime Player 7.  It's free:

	http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923

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#62317

On 2014-07-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> It looks like Apple removed MID(I) music file support to play back in 
> its newer software versions like Mac OS X 10.8.5's iTunes and QuickTime 
> Player. Even the latest VideoLAN Client Media Player can't play them. Is 
> there a good free software that can and use SoundFont files?
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

Multi-posting again... When will you learn?

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#62319

On 7/19/2014 12:00 PM PT, Jolly Roger typed:
> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?

I messed up earlier since I accidently psoted into comp.sys.mac.systems 
newsgroup. I couldn't cancel my newsgroup post. :(
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#62322

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes:

> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?

Yea, but the subject is tastefully short.  Heh.

Billy Y..
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#62323

On 2014-07-20, billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?
>
> Yea, but the subject is tastefully short.  Heh.

2 points!  : )

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#62325

On 7/19/2014 6:39 PM PT, Jolly Roger typed:

>>> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?
>>
>> Yea, but the subject is tastefully short.  Heh.
>
> 2 points!  : )

:P
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said: 'O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts 
crush you (under foot) without knowing it.'" --Surah 27. The Ant, The 
Ants, line 18
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#62326

In article <qsudnb0XgbrWMlbOnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 7/19/2014 6:39 PM PT, Jolly Roger typed:
> 
> >>> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?
> >>
> >> Yea, but the subject is tastefully short.  Heh.
> >
> > 2 points!  : )
> 
> :P

Yes, just keep going back and forth on this like ping pong players.

-- 
dorayme

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#62331

On 7/20/2014 6:04 AM PT, dorayme typed:

>>>>> Multi-posting again... When will you learn?
>>>>
>>>> Yea, but the subject is tastefully short.  Heh.
>>>
>>> 2 points!  : )
>>
>> :P
>
> Yes, just keep going back and forth on this like ping pong players.

:P
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#62333

In article <1sWdnRslM8HuJVHOnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> -- 
> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of 
> men." --Mortimer J. Adler

Why quote something so demonstrably false? Horses hardly engage in the 
pursuit of ideas, they don't behave like ants. Why should humans? 

And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?

-- 
dorayme

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#62337 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

On 7/21/2014 2:25 AM PT, dorayme typed:

>> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of
>> men." --Mortimer J. Adler
>
> Why quote something so demonstrably false? Horses hardly engage in the
> pursuit of ideas, they don't behave like ants. Why should humans?
>
> And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?

Isn't double (dashe/hyphen)s the part for showing the source for the quote?
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#62343 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

On 2014-07-21 14:59:29 +0000, Ant said:

> On 7/21/2014 2:25 AM PT, dorayme typed:
> 
>>> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of
>>> men." --Mortimer J. Adler
>> 
>> Why quote something so demonstrably false? Horses hardly engage in the
>> pursuit of ideas, they don't behave like ants.

I think "men" are implied, instead of horses, by the phrase "instead of 
men".  Nevertheless "ants" are a metaphor, because no matter what 
humans pursue or what ideas they adopt or reject they can never be 
anything remotely like an ant.

>>  Why should humans?

Well technically we do behave like ants in that we eat, breath, 
excrete, etc.  So do horses.  That's the curious thing about metaphors; 
they are invariably employed to underscore what specific thing but 
their intent can be readily confused or destroyed by changing the topic 
to things wholly unrelated to its intended meaning.

>> And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?
> 
> Isn't double (dashe/hyphen)s the part for showing the source for the quote?

A double-hypen when used for an interjection in a sentence--people 
always use them wrong--shouldn't have spaces. I think using them for 
attribution has many different possibilities as indicated here:

	http://tinyurl.com/lutazft

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#62358 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

On 7/21/2014 12:43 PM PT, gtr typed:

 >>> And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?
>>
>> Isn't double (dashe/hyphen)s the part for showing the source for the
>> quote?
>
> A double-hypen when used for an interjection in a sentence--people
> always use them wrong--shouldn't have spaces. I think using them for
> attribution has many different possibilities as indicated here:
>
>      http://tinyurl.com/lutazft

I am using the lowest ASCII method so text readers can see it too. 
Looking at that web page showed some weird symbols, but I don't think 
they are ASCII.
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#62349 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

In article <2PidnZfShfpMt1DOnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 7/21/2014 2:25 AM PT, dorayme typed:
> 
> >> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of
> >> men." --Mortimer J. Adler
> >
> > Why quote something so demonstrably false? Horses hardly engage in the
> > pursuit of ideas, they don't behave like ants. Why should humans?
> >
> > And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?
> 
> Isn't double (dashe/hyphen)s the part for showing the source for the quote?

Well, it is slightly confusing in usenet when you already have used it 
in the block, it makes some people think you don't quite know what you 
are doing.

But, perhaps I am too jumpy on this sort of thing, so many usenet 
people being quite ignorant on it all. You are probably not. However,  
I make an aesthetic point too, it looks bad because of the repeating 
double (aided by an unconscious doubt about it being meant to be 
double disappeared on reply.

Your first double dash makes a good program disappear everything after 
the first double and return. But, because I have a brain that has seen 
other parts of the universe that are not open to humans or ants or 
horses, it is possible to make a thing *double disappear*. Now your 
quote of what Mortimer said will disappear once. But one slight slip 
of your hand (hitting Return) would make the "Mortimer" disappear 
*twice*. This would be a very dangerous thing to do. In my experience, 
under the right (or maybe this should be the wrong) conditions, a 
larger part of the universe can disappear along with it.

You may laugh or think I am on drugs or drunk but I am not. We must 
all take very seriously the concept of a Double Disappearance. 
Remember, Christ made a "Second Appearance" (not to be confused with 
the promise of a Second Coming. He appeared after being born and then 
again after he died). What people forget is that He also made a 
spectacular Second Disappearance. He has never been seen again after 
his second appearance and there is doubt that He can make a third 
appearance. I don't think the physics of the world will allow a third 
appearance, a double disappearance is ... well... it is so emphatic.

<g> 


"-- 
"Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of 
men." --Mortimer J. Adler"

-- 
dorayme

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#62359 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

On 7/21/2014 4:05 PM PT, dorayme typed:

>>>> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of
>>>> men." --Mortimer J. Adler
>>>
>>> Why quote something so demonstrably false? Horses hardly engage in the
>>> pursuit of ideas, they don't behave like ants. Why should humans?
>>>
>>> And, bbtw, why the "--" before the "Mortimer"?
>>
>> Isn't double (dashe/hyphen)s the part for showing the source for the quote?
>
> Well, it is slightly confusing in usenet when you already have used it
> in the block, it makes some people think you don't quite know what you
> are doing.
>
> But, perhaps I am too jumpy on this sort of thing, so many usenet
> people being quite ignorant on it all. You are probably not. However,
> I make an aesthetic point too, it looks bad because of the repeating
> double (aided by an unconscious doubt about it being meant to be
> double disappeared on reply.
>
> Your first double dash makes a good program disappear everything after
> the first double and return. But, because I have a brain that has seen
> other parts of the universe that are not open to humans or ants or
> horses, it is possible to make a thing *double disappear*. Now your
> quote of what Mortimer said will disappear once. But one slight slip
> of your hand (hitting Return) would make the "Mortimer" disappear
> *twice*. This would be a very dangerous thing to do. In my experience,
> under the right (or maybe this should be the wrong) conditions, a
> larger part of the universe can disappear along with it.
>
> You may laugh or think I am on drugs or drunk but I am not. We must
> all take very seriously the concept of a Double Disappearance.
> Remember, Christ made a "Second Appearance" (not to be confused with
> the promise of a Second Coming. He appeared after being born and then
> again after he died). What people forget is that He also made a
> spectacular Second Disappearance. He has never been seen again after
> his second appearance and there is doubt that He can make a third
> appearance. I don't think the physics of the world will allow a third
> appearance, a double disappearance is ... well... it is so emphatic.
>
> <g>
>
>
> "--
> "Not to engage in the pursuit of ideas is to live like ants instead of
> men." --Mortimer J. Adler"
>
Hmm. I know having space after the two (dashe/hyphen)s would be for 
signatures which I have.
-- 
"I don't understand them anymore, these people that travel the 
commuter-trains to their dormitory towns. These people call themselves 
human, but, by a pressure they do not feel, are forced to do their work 
like ants. With what do they fill their time when they are free of work 
on their silly little Sundays?" --Antoine de saint-Exupéry, 'Wind, Sand, 
and Stars,' 1939
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#62360 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

In article <bPSdnaS_Kac-kFPOnZ2dnUVZ_jAAAAAA@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

...

> Hmm. I know having space after the two (dashe/hyphen)s would be for 
> signatures which I have.
 
I know p implies p. If -p, then you cannot know p.

It's "-- \n"

-- 
dorayme

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#62362 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

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> In article <bPSdnaS_Kac-kFPOnZ2dnUVZ_jAAAAAA@earthlink.com>,
>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> ...

>> Hmm. I know having space after the two (dashe/hyphen)s would be for 
>> signatures which I have.

> I know p implies p. If -p, then you cannot know p.

> It's "-- \n"

That's only true, only at the beginning of a line.  Anywhere else, it 
bears no particular significance.  -- 

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#62364 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

On 2014-07-22, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 July 2014 17:53 +1000, 
>  in article <do_ray_me-86F355.17533522072014@aioe.org>, 
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> In article <bPSdnaS_Kac-kFPOnZ2dnUVZ_jAAAAAA@earthlink.com>,
>>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> ...
>
>>> Hmm. I know having space after the two (dashe/hyphen)s would be for 
>>> signatures which I have.
>
>> I know p implies p. If -p, then you cannot know p.
>
>> It's "-- \n"
>
> That's only true, only at the beginning of a line.  Anywhere else, it 
> bears no particular significance.  -- 

Entirely correct.

Which dash character you use for quote attributions is entirely a
stylistic choice, and is therefore completely up to you. And the fact
that doh-ruh-meh is bitching about it should be a huge clue to you that
it really is a trite complaint and meaningless debate. I would just pick
the one you like and don't bother wasting your time with dimwits.

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#62374 — Re: Play old MID(I) files? (OT)

In article <alpine.OSX.2.11.1407220943180.25544@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> > It's "-- \n"
> 
> That's only true, only at the beginning of a line.  Anywhere else, it 
> bears no particular significance.  -- 

Yes, otherwise it does not act to do the job of signalling to 
newsreaders not to include it and below in replies. As for no 
particular significance, perhaps it is more accurately to be described 
as intending different particular significances. As for whether these 
are good uses or not, let's leave this now...

-- 
dorayme

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