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  Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 09:49 -0700
    Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 13:02 -0400
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 11:47 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 11:49 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-04 20:40 +0100
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 19:43 +0000
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 09:23 +0200
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:28 +0000
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 19:42 +0200
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 18:10 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:37 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 19:18 -0400
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 23:23 +0000
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:26 +0000
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 00:21 +0100
                Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:37 +0100
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:56 +0000
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 02:59 +0100
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:21 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 03:44 +0100
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:08 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 00:27 +0100
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 17:15 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-05 17:30 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:09 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:17 +0000
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 01:40 -0400
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-05 00:26 -0700
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 06:57 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 22:18 -0400
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 00:57 +0100
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-06 21:56 -0400
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-07 07:35 +0100
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:15 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 03:23 +0100
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-05 14:45 +1200
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 00:11 +0100
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-06 12:41 +1200
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 02:11 +0100
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:06 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 00:13 +0100
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:14 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-07-07 17:36 +1200
            Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:27 +0100
              Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 13:49 +0200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 13:06 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:38 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:24 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:17 +0000
            Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:44 +0100
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:57 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 20:00 -0700
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:20 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 20:22 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:28 +0000
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:54 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 21:59 -0700
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:11 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:19 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 01:05 +0100
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-06 03:10 +0000
                Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:28 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 04:39 +0000
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 21:41 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 01:09 +0100
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 17:38 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 01:00 +0100
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:26 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:02 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:03 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 05:23 +0000
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 06:36 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 09:28 +0200
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-06 10:44 +1200
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 23:30 +0000
                Re: Windows application on a Mac billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-06 03:52 +0000
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 09:10 +0200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-05 07:19 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-07-07 14:52 +1200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-07 16:36 +1200
            Re: Windows application on a Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-07-07 17:25 +1200
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-07 16:22 +0000
      Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-04 20:38 +0100
        Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
          Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:22 +0100
            Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 17:05 +0000
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 17:17 +0000
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 11:49 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 18:55 +0000
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 09:16 +0200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-04 22:36 +0100
          Re: Windows application on a Mac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-05 11:34 +1200
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 16:42 -0700
              Re: Windows application on a Mac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-05 12:04 +1200
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 17:45 -0700
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:59 +0000
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 03:08 +0100
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-05 17:57 +1200
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 03:11 +0100
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:51 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:49 +0000
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:46 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 09:14 +0200
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 04:14 +0200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:07 +0000
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 10:08 -0700
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 11:55 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 11:57 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 12:12 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 19:39 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 12:58 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 13:22 -0700
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:26 +0000
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:25 +0000
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:06 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:45 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:05 +0000
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:24 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 20:31 -0700
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:35 +0000
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:58 -0700
                              Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:01 -0700
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:57 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:01 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:50 +0000
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:32 +0000
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:01 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:02 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:23 +0000
                              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 08:28 -0700
                                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-05 09:27 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 12:50 -0700
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 13:09 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 13:23 -0700
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 14:01 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 15:07 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 15:24 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:47 +0000
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:02 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:43 -0700
                              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:08 -0700
                                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 20:12 -0700
                                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:33 -0700
                                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 21:39 -0700
                                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:08 -0700
                                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:18 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:34 +0000
                              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:02 -0700
                                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:04 -0700
                                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:24 +0000
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 15:57 -0700
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:03 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:44 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:49 +0100
                          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:05 -0700
                            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:45 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 14:32 -0700
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 15:01 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-07 16:46 -0700
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-04 19:14 +0100
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-05 10:38 +1200
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-04 23:43 +0100
          Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 01:59 +0100
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:23 -0700
              Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-05 03:48 +0100
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:18 -0700
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 08:56 +0200
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 08:01 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-05 14:20 +0200
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 22:55 +0000
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 14:13 -0700
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 14:58 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 18:05 -0400
          Re: Windows application on a Mac billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-06 00:20 +0000
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:41 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:26 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 19:54 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:19 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 21:03 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:44 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 21:11 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 05:29 +0000
              Re: Windows application on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-07-06 01:39 +0100
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-06 14:26 +1200
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-05 10:39 +1200
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-04 22:10 +0000
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 15:26 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:52 +0000
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:11 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:47 -0700
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:15 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 20:19 -0700
                  Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 21:36 -0700
                    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 21:40 -0700
                      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 22:09 -0700
                        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:18 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 15:59 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:13 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 19:48 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:51 +0000
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 01:30 -0400
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-04 22:32 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 06:54 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 22:15 -0400
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-05 19:19 -0700
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 06:43 -0700
    Re: Windows application on a Mac cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-07-05 12:39 +0200
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 06:53 -0400
        Re: Windows application on a Mac cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-07-05 14:53 +0200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 07:04 -0700
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-05 22:14 -0400
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 20:14 -0700
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 07:00 -0700
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-05 06:59 -0400
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 07:06 -0700
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-06 08:35 -0400
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-06 06:54 -0700
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-06 12:55 -0400
    Re: Windows application on a Mac Mitch Bujard <nonono@schoolfonts.com> - 2014-07-16 17:40 -0400
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-17 09:39 -0400
      Re: Windows application on a Mac Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2014-07-17 09:22 -0500
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-17 15:23 +0000
        Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-18 09:08 +1200
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-17 22:41 +0100
          Re: Windows application on a Mac Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2014-07-21 11:07 -0400
            Re: Windows application on a Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-22 09:47 +1200
              Re: Windows application on a Mac Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2014-07-26 11:35 -0400
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-07-26 10:17 -0700
                Re: Windows application on a Mac Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-27 17:55 +0200

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#62002

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> but here are some things about parallels that should rule it out
> as a contender:

> they asked beta testers to post positive feedback

That's kid stuff compared to crap like this -

http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2008/04/learning-from-y.html

| This blog post was inspired by a series of events that began late
| last month when employees of Parallels, a company that makes a
| competing solution to VMware Fusion, were found posting less-than-
| flattering reviews of VMware Fusion to Amazon.
|
| [...]

Highly recommended reading, especially for those interested in
choosing a vendor with its head screwed on straight.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#61803

On 2014-07-04, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
>
> Why?

My 2¢: VMware has been around a lot longer, and has better customer
support and so on. In the early days, the robustness and performance of
Parallels Desktop was nowhere near as good as VMware Fusion, but that
leveled off for the most part. I've bounced around between the two
several times during the years, and have been using Fusion for the past
few years because Parallels Desktop just hasn't given me enough reason
to move to it lately.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61848

In article <c1ootfFt8ilU7@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-04, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
> >
> > Why?
> 
> My 2¢: VMware has been around a lot longer, and has better customer
> support and so on. In the early days, the robustness and performance of
> Parallels Desktop was nowhere near as good as VMware Fusion, but that
> leveled off for the most part. I've bounced around between the two
> several times during the years, and have been using Fusion for the past
> few years because Parallels Desktop just hasn't given me enough reason
> to move to it lately.

Thanks.

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#61860

On 2014-07-04 21:58:20 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
> 
> Why?

I run VMWare Fusion on this Mac for those times (fewer, & fewer now) I 
find a need to run a Windows application. I can fire it up in a 
separate space (desktop) to where I might have other OSX apps running. 
That is far less hassle than having to reboot into Boot Camp. I got a 
good deal on Fusion some years ago in one of thos software bundles that 
materialize from tome to time.
Moving between OSX and Windows desktops is a mouse click away. When i 
am done I quit Windows, & Fusion and that is that, no OSX reboot 
required.

...and Windows functions as annoyingly as it did when I had to use it 
at work before I retired, so for me it is a perfect reminder of why my 
OS preference lies with Apple.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#61889

In article <2014070419543021564-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> >> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
> > 
> > Why?
> 
> I run VMWare Fusion on this Mac for those times (fewer, & fewer now) I 
> find a need to run a Windows application. I can fire it up in a 
> separate space (desktop) to where I might have other OSX apps running. 
> That is far less hassle than having to reboot into Boot Camp. I got a 
> good deal on Fusion some years ago in one of thos software bundles that 
> materialize from tome to time.

Oh.  I thought you meant that compared to Parallels Desktop.

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#61904

On 2014-07-05 03:19:41 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <2014070419543021564-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
>>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>> I run VMWare Fusion on this Mac for those times (fewer, & fewer now) I
>> find a need to run a Windows application. I can fire it up in a
>> separate space (desktop) to where I might have other OSX apps running.
>> That is far less hassle than having to reboot into Boot Camp. I got a
>> good deal on Fusion some years ago in one of thos software bundles that
>> materialize from tome to time.
> 
> Oh.  I thought you meant that compared to Parallels Desktop.

I have never had a great desire or need to run Windows at home, so 
getting Fusion in that bundle was fortuitous, and I bought an OEM 
version of XP Pro + SP2. It runs without hiccough, and I have never had 
a need to even consider Parallels let alone test drive it. While Boot 
Camp probably give you the best environment in which to operate Windows 
on a Mac, I find Fusion simple and convenient.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#61902

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:58:20 -0700 <040720141458205998%michelle@michelle.org>
> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.

> Why?

I got Parallels as part of a bundle, so have used it for a couple of
years. Their upgrade policy and pricing I find pretty abhorrent,
especially since they force you to "upgrade" to fix compatibility
issues.

I won't be upgrading Parallels. If I need to run Windows int eh future,
I'll go with BootCamp or VirtualBox.

-- 
'It's easy to hold everything in common when no one's got anything.'

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#61905

On 2014-07-05 03:44:54 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner 
> <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
>  --> 	 Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:58:20 -0700 
> <040720141458205998%michelle@michelle.org>
>> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
> 
>> Why?
> 
> I got Parallels as part of a bundle, so have used it for a couple of
> years. Their upgrade policy and pricing I find pretty abhorrent,
> especially since they force you to "upgrade" to fix compatibility
> issues.
> 
> I won't be upgrading Parallels. If I need to run Windows int eh future,
> I'll go with BootCamp or VirtualBox.

I am still running VMWare Fusion v. 4.1.3 and it runs as well on OSX 
10.9.4 as it did on 10.6.8. I get the upgrade nag, but that take no 
effort at all to ignore.
Having Windows available to me is not that important in my life, now 
that I have retired.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#61933

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:11:07 -0700 <2014070421110738588-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
> On 2014-07-05 03:44:54 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner 
>> <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
>>  --> 	 Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:58:20 -0700 
>> <040720141458205998%michelle@michelle.org>
>>> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>> I got Parallels as part of a bundle, so have used it for a couple of
>> years. Their upgrade policy and pricing I find pretty abhorrent,
>> especially since they force you to "upgrade" to fix compatibility
>> issues.
>> 
>> I won't be upgrading Parallels. If I need to run Windows int eh future,
>> I'll go with BootCamp or VirtualBox.

> I am still running VMWare Fusion v. 4.1.3 and it runs as well on OSX 
> 10.9.4 as it did on 10.6.8. I get the upgrade nag, but that take no 
> effort at all to ignore.

yeah, Parallels breaks. 6 broke with a system update and so did 7. I'm
still running 8 under 10.9, but I don't expect it to work in 10.10.

I seem to recall that one of the broken Parallels appeared to be an
intentionally breakage, but the details are hazy so I may be
misremembering.

-- 
I is for IDA who drowned in a lake
J is for JAMES who took lye by mistake

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#62006

On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 05:29:32 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>Okay, so one time? In band camp? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> was all, like: 
> --> 	 Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:11:07 -0700 <2014070421110738588-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
>> On 2014-07-05 03:44:54 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
>
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner 
>>> <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
>>>  --> 	 Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:58:20 -0700 
>>> <040720141458205998%michelle@michelle.org>
>>>> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
>>> 
>>>> Why?
>>> 
>>> I got Parallels as part of a bundle, so have used it for a couple of
>>> years. Their upgrade policy and pricing I find pretty abhorrent,
>>> especially since they force you to "upgrade" to fix compatibility
>>> issues.
>>> 
>>> I won't be upgrading Parallels. If I need to run Windows int eh future,
>>> I'll go with BootCamp or VirtualBox.
>
>> I am still running VMWare Fusion v. 4.1.3 and it runs as well on OSX 
>> 10.9.4 as it did on 10.6.8. I get the upgrade nag, but that take no 
>> effort at all to ignore.
>
>yeah, Parallels breaks. 6 broke with a system update and so did 7. I'm
>still running 8 under 10.9, but I don't expect it to work in 10.10.
>
>I seem to recall that one of the broken Parallels appeared to be an
>intentionally breakage, but the details are hazy so I may be
>misremembering.

 My wife's Parallels-version-3 broke when I upgraded her MacBook to
Snow Leopard. I think that was intentional on the part of both
companies. The version currently on offer won't download to the PC
because SL is too old a system. Or maybe because my "App Store" app is
too old. Or maybe *I* am too old. 
 I think I could get an intermediate version to run but there never
seemed to be any point to it. As I may have mentioned up thread a few
times, CrossOver does everything we needed Windows emulation for and
it's easier to use than WINE. 

 [Yes, nospam, I know it's just a WINE wrapper, give it a rest.] 
 [And, yes, nospam, I did use WINE without paying for it. I am *never*
going to pay for it.] {Arrrrrr, Jumm, lard, heave ho me hartees.]  

                                    J.  

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#62013

In article <a36hr95dn4u8as0sp0kbhmn2mdi4q0ufnb@4ax.com>, John
<Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 05:29:32 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >Okay, so one time? In band camp? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
> >was all, like: 
> > -->   Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:11:07 -0700
> > <2014070421110738588-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
> >> On 2014-07-05 03:44:54 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
> >> said:
> >>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner 
> >>> <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
> >>>  -->   Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:58:20 -0700 
> >>> <040720141458205998%michelle@michelle.org>
> >>>> In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> >>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.
> >>> 
> >>>> Why?
> >>> 
> >>> I got Parallels as part of a bundle, so have used it for a couple of
> >>> years. Their upgrade policy and pricing I find pretty abhorrent,
> >>> especially since they force you to "upgrade" to fix compatibility
> >>> issues.
> >>> 
> >>> I won't be upgrading Parallels. If I need to run Windows int eh future,
> >>> I'll go with BootCamp or VirtualBox.
> >
> >> I am still running VMWare Fusion v. 4.1.3 and it runs as well on OSX 
> >> 10.9.4 as it did on 10.6.8. I get the upgrade nag, but that take no 
> >> effort at all to ignore.
> >
> >yeah, Parallels breaks. 6 broke with a system update and so did 7. I'm
> >still running 8 under 10.9, but I don't expect it to work in 10.10.
> >
> >I seem to recall that one of the broken Parallels appeared to be an
> >intentionally breakage, but the details are hazy so I may be
> >misremembering.
> 
>  My wife's Parallels-version-3 broke when I upgraded her MacBook to
> Snow Leopard. I think that was intentional on the part of both
> companies. The version currently on offer won't download to the PC
> because SL is too old a system. Or maybe because my "App Store" app is
> too old. Or maybe *I* am too old. 
>  I think I could get an intermediate version to run but there never
> seemed to be any point to it. As I may have mentioned up thread a few
> times, CrossOver does everything we needed Windows emulation for and
> it's easier to use than WINE. 
> 
>  [Yes, nospam, I know it's just a WINE wrapper, give it a rest.] 
>  [And, yes, nospam, I did use WINE without paying for it. I am *never*
> going to pay for it.] 

WINE / Crossover is such useless garbage that it's not worth paying for
... it's not even worth wasting time with for free since it doesn't
even work properly with most (if not all) of the so-called "supported"
Windoze applications. If you want proper Windoze compatibility, then
you *have* to install Windoze.



> {Arrrrrr, Jumm, lard, heave ho me hartees.]  

Ahh, so you're *that* John ... Long John Silver.  ;-)

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#61802

In article <2014070414135544175-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-07-04 16:49:21 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:
> >
> > I've pretty much been ignoring this topic, but now I have a strong
> > desire to run an application (BridgeMaster 2000, if you're curious)
> > that runs only on Windows.
> > 
> > What would be my best option:  Boot Camp, Parallels, VMware Fusion,
> > Crossover?
> > 
> > I know that the biggest disadvantage for running Boot Camp is that I'd
> > have to reboot the computer every time I want to switch between OSes.
> > And both Parallels and Fusion cost extra money.  I have Crossover
> > because it came in one of those bundles that are sometimes offered, so
> > price isn't a problem with it, but I'm all that convinced that it would
> > be the best way to go.
> 
> My personal experience moves me into the VMWare Fusion camp.

It tends to be a matter of personal preference these days with little
real difference between Fusion and Parallels.

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#61792

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Fri, 04 Jul 2014 09:49:21 -0700 <040720140949213663%michelle@michelle.org>
> I've pretty much been ignoring this topic, but now I have a strong
> desire to run an application (BridgeMaster 2000, if you're curious)
> that runs only on Windows.

> What would be my best option:  Boot Camp, Parallels, VMware Fusion,
> Crossover?

Bootcamp, Parallels, and VMWare require a licensed Windows version, so,
"best" is crossover if cost is what matters most.

If compatibility matters most, then Bootcamp.

Convenience? Either Parallels or VMWare.

-- 
A man does not make his destiny: he accepts it or denies it.

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#61798

In article <slrnlre9j1.19t8.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> > What would be my best option:  Boot Camp, Parallels, VMware Fusion,
> > Crossover?
> 
> Bootcamp, Parallels, and VMWare require a licensed Windows version, so,
> "best" is crossover if cost is what matters most.

Depending on how well it works; it rated only a silver, and that was
from only one reviewer.

> If compatibility matters most, then Bootcamp.
> 
> Convenience? Either Parallels or VMWare.

The question about tradeoffs remains.

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#61806

On 2014-07-04, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <slrnlre9j1.19t8.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
><g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> > What would be my best option:  Boot Camp, Parallels, VMware Fusion,
>> > Crossover?
>> 
>> Bootcamp, Parallels, and VMWare require a licensed Windows version, so,
>> "best" is crossover if cost is what matters most.
>
> Depending on how well it works; it rated only a silver, and that was
> from only one reviewer.
>
>> If compatibility matters most, then Bootcamp.
>> 
>> Convenience? Either Parallels or VMWare.
>
> The question about tradeoffs remains.

Look at the CrossOver compatibility page for the application in
question. If it's not 100% compatible, then purchasing CrossOver may be
a risk for you. The choice between VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop
is really up to you, since they are both relatively equal in terms of
performance, compatibility, and features. That said, I will tell you
that VMware has been in this business much longer and tends to have
better support, IME.  And then there's VirtualBox, which is free, but
harder to set up, and I have no idea what sort of support is available
for it.

What's the question?

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61838

In article <c1opghFt8ilU9@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> If compatibility matters most, then Bootcamp.
> >> 
> >> Convenience? Either Parallels or VMWare.
> >
> > The question about tradeoffs remains.
> 
> Look at the CrossOver compatibility page for the application in
> question. If it's not 100% compatible, then purchasing CrossOver may be
> a risk for you. 

I've already written that I already have a purchased copy of CrossOver. 
That makes CrossOver my least expensive option.  And if it doesn't
work, I can still get Windows and use Boot Camp or buy VMware Fusion or
Parallels Desktop.  I just need to decide whether it's worth trying
CrossOver first.

> The choice between VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop
> is really up to you, since they are both relatively equal in terms of
> performance, compatibility, and features. That said, I will tell you
> that VMware has been in this business much longer and tends to have
> better support, IME. 

That's the first time that anyone in this thread has compared the two. 
Thanks.

Anyway, I think I've received all the information I'm going to get in
this thread.

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#61856

On 2014-07-05 02:11:55 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <c1opghFt8ilU9@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> If compatibility matters most, then Bootcamp.
>>>> 
>>>> Convenience? Either Parallels or VMWare.
>>> 
>>> The question about tradeoffs remains.
>> 
>> Look at the CrossOver compatibility page for the application in
>> question. If it's not 100% compatible, then purchasing CrossOver may be
>> a risk for you.
> 
> I've already written that I already have a purchased copy of CrossOver.
> That makes CrossOver my least expensive option.  And if it doesn't
> work, I can still get Windows and use Boot Camp or buy VMware Fusion or
> Parallels Desktop.  I just need to decide whether it's worth trying
> CrossOver first.

If you already have it, please describe a scenario where it WOULDN'T be 
worth trying...

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#61884

In article <lp7p04$9b1$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> > I've already written that I already have a purchased copy of CrossOver.
> > That makes CrossOver my least expensive option.  And if it doesn't
> > work, I can still get Windows and use Boot Camp or buy VMware Fusion or
> > Parallels Desktop.  I just need to decide whether it's worth trying
> > CrossOver first.
> 
> If you already have it, please describe a scenario where it WOULDN'T be 
> worth trying...

Considering that only one person has reported trying it, that might be
a sign that it's not worth using it.

But I will probably try it first anyway.

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#61890

On 2014-07-05 03:15:45 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <lp7p04$9b1$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>>> I've already written that I already have a purchased copy of CrossOver.
>>> That makes CrossOver my least expensive option.  And if it doesn't
>>> work, I can still get Windows and use Boot Camp or buy VMware Fusion or
>>> Parallels Desktop.  I just need to decide whether it's worth trying
>>> CrossOver first.
>> 
>> If you already have it, please describe a scenario where it WOULDN'T be
>> worth trying...
> 
> Considering that only one person has reported trying it, that might be
> a sign that it's not worth using it.

It might be a sign of that...

...BUT IT IS NOT A SIGN THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THE FIVE MINUTES TO TRY IT, 
YOU TWIT.

> 
> But I will probably try it first anyway.

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#61908

In article <lp7qsm$ca0$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> ...BUT IT IS NOT A SIGN THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THE FIVE MINUTES TO TRY IT, 
> YOU TWIT.

It looks like Rod Speed or nospam has hijacked Alan Baker's account.

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