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| Started by | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| First post | 2014-06-30 08:28 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-07-01 18:10 +0000 |
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Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:28 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 11:37 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:55 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 12:33 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:47 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-06-30 18:20 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 12:41 -0500
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 17:49 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:52 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:24 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 02:37 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:43 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 12:09 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:05 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:47 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-30 21:44 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 08:38 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:59 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:25 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 11:02 -0500
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-06-30 17:17 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 21:38 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-30 21:50 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 02:06 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 17:49 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:39 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 16:55 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:58 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 17:04 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 09:15 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:19 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:24 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 01:32 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-02 10:00 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:27 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 13:23 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:14 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:32 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:40 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:03 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:17 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:20 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:25 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:43 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:42 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 18:45 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:06 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:22 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:33 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:27 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:55 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:58 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:24 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:28 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:10 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:53 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:17 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:24 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:36 +0100
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:46 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 18:24 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-01 21:48 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:45 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:35 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:20 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-01 09:04 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Neil Ellwood <niel.elllwood2@btinternet.com> - 2014-07-01 03:10 -0500
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 07:52 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 07:10 +1000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 17:20 +0000
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 11:00 -0700
Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 18:10 +0000
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 21:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gn5jF8jn7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61637 |
On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message > news:c1g58lF4erhU5@mid.individual.net... >> >> I can see enough of the buildings and parking >> lots with satellite view for my purposes. : ) > > Doesn’t work for the sign outside a commercial operation. I don't need it to get where I am going. >> No street view needed. > > It is for a commercial operation. Not for me it isn't. >> I'll stay with Apple Maps. > > More fool you. Calling other people fools for using what suits them best simply because it isn't what you would choose is immature and shows an intolerance to views other than your own. Nice character you have there. >> I do have Google Maps and others installed, but >> rarely use them, since Apple Maps does all I need. > > Only because you are too stupid to use street view where its useful. More name calling... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 09:33 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gus7Fa77cU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61642 |
"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message news:c1gn5jF8jn7U2@mid.individual.net... > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> news:c1g58lF4erhU5@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> I can see enough of the buildings and parking >>> lots with satellite view for my purposes. : ) >> >> Doesn’t work for the sign outside a commercial operation. > I don't need it to get where I am going. Even you do with a commercial operation that has moved. >>> No street view needed. >> >> It is for a commercial operation. > Not for me it isn't. Wrong. >>> I'll stay with Apple Maps. >> >> More fool you. > Calling other people fools for using what suits them best Didn’t do anything like that, fool. >>> I do have Google Maps and others installed, but >>> rarely use them, since Apple Maps does all I need. >> Only because you are too stupid to use street view where its useful. > More name calling... Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh, fool ?
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| From | David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 12:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dfritzin-BA4DB4.12274301072014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #61608 |
In article <010720141655106185%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger > <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message > > > news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... > > >> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an > > >>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became > > >>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I switched > > >>> and haven't looked back since. > > >> > > >> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years > > >> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws > > >> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing > > >> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. > > >> > > >> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and > > >> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for > > >> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last > > >> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. > > > > > > I prefer google maps for the street view. > > > > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just > > fine, thanks. > > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like, > what the destination building's like, etc. In contrast, I haven't found Street View all that useful. It is fun, no doubt, to look at what houses or workplaces look like, but it often doesn't go into parking lots (or the view ends up being of the back side of the building I'm interested in), so I can't get the parking information I would like.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <010720141954035613%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #61608 |
In article <010720141655106185%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > > > > > > I prefer google maps for the street view. > > > > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just > > fine, thanks. > > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like, > what the destination building's like, etc. exactly. plus it's useful to check what the roads and intersections look like along the way, identifying landmarks so you don't need to be distracted by the phone while driving.
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 08:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014070108552732851-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #61606 |
On 2014-07-01 15:39:09 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said: > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >>>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became >>>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I switched >>>> and haven't looked back since. >>> >>> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years >>> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >>> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing >>> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >>> >>> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >>> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for >>> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >>> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >> >> I prefer google maps for the street view. > > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just > fine, thanks. Street View is useless if you are driving and don't have a navigator in the passenger seat. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 06:58 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1glopF8dteU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61609 |
"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:2014070108552732851-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2014-07-01 15:39:09 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>
>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an
>>>>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became
>>>>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I
>>>>> switched
>>>>> and haven't looked back since.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the
>>>> years
>>>> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws
>>>> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing
>>>> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map.
>>>>
>>>> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and
>>>> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality
>>>> for
>>>> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last
>>>> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone.
>>>
>>> I prefer google maps for the street view.
>>
>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
>> fine, thanks.
>
> Street View is useless if you are driving and don't have a navigator in
> the passenger seat.
Wrong. I am normally in that situation and just look at the
street view when I setup the destination in the mapper.
And if iOS would let you specify which mapper Siri uses
with the Go To command, and let you tell it to show the
street view as well, it would work fine when driving with
no passenger too.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <010720141954045666%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #61609 |
In article <2014070108552732851-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> I prefer google maps for the street view.
> >
> > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
> > fine, thanks.
>
> Street View is useless if you are driving and don't have a navigator in
> the passenger seat.
you use street view *before* embarking to get an idea of where you're
going and what landmarks might exist so you don't need to look at the
phone at all during the trip.
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| From | David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 12:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dfritzin-F7386E.12245901072014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #61606 |
In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message > > news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... > >> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an > >>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became > >>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I switched > >>> and haven't looked back since. > >> > >> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years > >> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws > >> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing > >> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. > >> > >> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and > >> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for > >> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last > >> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. > > > > I prefer google maps for the street view. > > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just > fine, thanks. I use both, concurrently. There are some things that Apple Maps either can 't find or gets wrong, and the same thing goes with Google Maps. One huge improvement for Google Maps is that it can use data from my Contacts app on my iPhone. Before that, Google Maps was not all that usable. Having said that, the application I am using most now is Waze. It does a better job of looking out for traffic/police, etc than either Apple or Google Maps, and it not only can access information from my Contacts but also from my Calendar app on my phone. It probably has an error rate a bit higher than either Apple or Google Maps, but you can edit maps. Haven't tried it yet, though.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 16:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c1g5tnF4erhU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61616 |
On 2014-07-01, David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote: > In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> > news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >> >>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became >> >>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I switched >> >>> and haven't looked back since. >> >> >> >> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years >> >> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >> >> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing >> >> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >> >> >> >> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >> >> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for >> >> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >> >> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >> > >> > I prefer google maps for the street view. >> >> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just >> fine, thanks. > > I use both, concurrently. There are some things that Apple Maps either > can 't find or gets wrong, and the same thing goes with Google Maps. One > huge improvement for Google Maps is that it can use data from my > Contacts app on my iPhone. Before that, Google Maps was not all that > usable. > > Having said that, the application I am using most now is Waze. It does a > better job of looking out for traffic/police, etc than either Apple or > Google Maps, and it not only can access information from my Contacts but > also from my Calendar app on my phone. It probably has an error rate a > bit higher than either Apple or Google Maps, but you can edit maps. > Haven't tried it yet, though. I have Waze too, but haven't used it much yet. Thanks for the deets. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 07:10 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gmftF8ih3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61616 |
"David Fritzinger" <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote in message news:dfritzin-F7386E.12245901072014@news.eternal-september.org... > In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> > news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >> >>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app >> >>> became >> >>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I >> >>> switched >> >>> and haven't looked back since. >> >> >> >> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the >> >> years >> >> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >> >> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, >> >> ever-changing >> >> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >> >> >> >> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >> >> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality >> >> for >> >> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >> >> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >> > >> > I prefer google maps for the street view. >> >> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just >> fine, thanks. > > I use both, concurrently. There are some things that Apple Maps either > can 't find or gets wrong, and the same thing goes with Google Maps. One > huge improvement for Google Maps is that it can use data from my > Contacts app on my iPhone. Before that, Google Maps was not all that > usable. I found it was very usable, particularly for retail operations where you only need the name, no address details at all. The only thing I didn’t like about it was that you couldn’t use Siri to specify the destination while driving around. > Having said that, the application I am using most now is Waze. It does > a better job of looking out for traffic/police, etc than either Apple or > Google Maps, and it not only can access information from my Contacts > but also from my Calendar app on my phone. It probably has an error > rate a bit higher than either Apple or Google Maps, but you can edit maps. I'd rather not have to. > Haven't tried it yet, though.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <010720141954065776%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #61616 |
In article <dfritzin-F7386E.12245901072014@news.eternal-september.org>, David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote: > > > I prefer google maps for the street view. > > > > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just > > fine, thanks. > > I use both, concurrently. There are some things that Apple Maps either > can 't find or gets wrong, and the same thing goes with Google Maps. One > huge improvement for Google Maps is that it can use data from my > Contacts app on my iPhone. Before that, Google Maps was not all that > usable. > > Having said that, the application I am using most now is Waze. It does a > better job of looking out for traffic/police, etc than either Apple or > Google Maps, unfortunately google made that quite a bit less useful after buying waze. > and it not only can access information from my Contacts but > also from my Calendar app on my phone. It probably has an error rate a > bit higher than either Apple or Google Maps, but you can edit maps. > Haven't tried it yet, though. waze's routing is not very good but the street data is fairly accurate.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 06:53 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1glfmF8c5cU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61606 |
"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message news:c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net... > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >>>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became >>>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I >>>> switched >>>> and haven't looked back since. >>> >>> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years >>> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >>> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing >>> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >>> >>> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >>> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for >>> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >>> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >> >> I prefer google maps for the street view. > I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. It is handy for commercial places where you can check the street view to see the sign outside the place. Its also useful when telling someone about some particularly architectural detail so you don’t have to take a photo yourself etc, just point them at the street view etc. Also handy to see what sort of area it is with garage/yard sales so you can have some idea about which are more likely to be the sort of place you are likely to get useful stuff from when you have a choice of which ones to go to first etc. > So Apple Maps will do just fine, thanks. But can't do street view when that is useful. I'd rather use the most frequently updated mapper which also has the best current traffic info etc and which has useful features like street view that can be used when they are useful and which keeps adding new features like cached maps etc sooner.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 21:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gmr6F8jn7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61634 |
On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message > news:c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >>> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >>>>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app became >>>>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I >>>>> switched >>>>> and haven't looked back since. >>>> >>>> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the years >>>> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >>>> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, ever-changing >>>> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >>>> >>>> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >>>> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality for >>>> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >>>> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >>> >>> I prefer google maps for the street view. > >> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. > > It is handy for commercial places where you can check > the street view to see the sign outside the place. It doesn't offer me any advantages over satellite view. I can do without it. >> So Apple Maps will do just fine, thanks. > > But can't do street view when that is useful. It's not very useful to me. Don't need it. Apple Maps gets me everywhere I need to go without issue, and Google Maps sits mostly unused on my phone. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 07:24 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gnb1F8npgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61641 |
"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message news:c1gmr6F8jn7U1@mid.individual.net... > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> news:c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >>>> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an >>>>>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app >>>>>> became >>>>>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I >>>>>> switched >>>>>> and haven't looked back since. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the >>>>> years >>>>> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing flaws >>>>> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, >>>>> ever-changing >>>>> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map. >>>>> >>>>> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and >>>>> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality >>>>> for >>>>> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last >>>>> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone. >>>> >>>> I prefer google maps for the street view. >> >>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. >> >> It is handy for commercial places where you can check >> the street view to see the sign outside the place. > It doesn't offer me any advantages over satellite view. It clearly does in that situation. > I can do without it. Not if the place has moved and the database hasn’t been updated. >>> So Apple Maps will do just fine, thanks. >> >> But can't do street view when that is useful. > It's not very useful to me. You just haven't had that happen YET. > Don't need it. You don’t know that. > Apple Maps gets me everywhere I need to go without issue, So far. > and Google Maps sits mostly unused on my phone. And Apple Maps will eventually let you down like any mapper does sometimes.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 21:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gnr7F8jn7U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61643 |
On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message > news:c1gmr6F8jn7U1@mid.individual.net... >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >>> news:c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. >>> >>> It is handy for commercial places where you can check >>> the street view to see the sign outside the place. > >> It doesn't offer me any advantages over satellite view. > > It clearly does in that situation. Nope. Street View has never helped me get there any faster. >> I can do without it. > > Not if the place has moved and the database hasn’t been updated. ...which has absolutely nothing to do with Street View. >>>> So Apple Maps will do just fine, thanks. >>> >>> But can't do street view when that is useful. > >> It's not very useful to me. > > You just haven't had that happen YET. It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been using computers since the 80s, before such maps existed, and naturally have used many different map services over the years; but it is no less true. I have tried Street View many times since it was first introduced, and haven't found it useful to me. Hem and haw all you want, but you cannot change that fact. >> Don't need it. > > You don’t know that. Yes, you clearly know better than anyone what I need... >> Apple Maps gets me everywhere I need to go without issue, > > So far. > >> and Google Maps sits mostly unused on my phone. > > And Apple Maps will eventually let you down like any mapper does sometimes. *WHOOSH*... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 22:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <010720142236133946%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #61646 |
In article <c1gnr7F8jn7U3@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been using > computers since the 80s, ... Or in my case, the 60s. -- "People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 09:46 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gvk6FabjkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61647 |
"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message news:010720142236133946%timstreater@greenbee.net... > In article <c1gnr7F8jn7U3@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger > <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been using >> computers since the 80s, ... > > Or in my case, the 60s. Me too.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 18:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <010720141824215042%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #61647 |
In article <010720142236133946%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <c1gnr7F8jn7U3@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger > <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been using > > computers since the 80s, ... > > Or in my case, the 60s. shucks, I'm a newcomer compared to you; I've been using them only since the 70s.
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 21:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <010720142148484334%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #61647 |
Jolly Roger, who is in my kill-file, wrote: > > It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been using > > computers since the 80s, ... Tim Streater: > Or in my case, the 60s. November, 1962. US Air Force. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-02 09:45 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1gvjbFabaqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61646 |
"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message news:c1gnr7F8jn7U3@mid.individual.net... > On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >> news:c1gmr6F8jn7U1@mid.individual.net... >>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >>>> news:c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. >>>> >>>> It is handy for commercial places where you can check >>>> the street view to see the sign outside the place. >> >>> It doesn't offer me any advantages over satellite view. >> >> It clearly does in that situation. > Nope. Yep. > Street View has never helped me get there any faster. Because you are too stupid to use it. >>> I can do without it. >> >> Not if the place has moved and the database hasn’t been updated. > ...which has absolutely nothing to do with Street View. Wrong, as always. Street View allows you to see the front of the place and see if it still has the signage that it should have if the store is still there etc. >>>>> So Apple Maps will do just fine, thanks. >>>> >>>> But can't do street view when that is useful. >> >>> It's not very useful to me. >> >> You just haven't had that happen YET. > It may come as a surprise to you that some of us have been > using computers since the 80s, before such maps existed, Unlikely given that I was using them LONG before that. > and naturally have used many different map > services over the years; but it is no less true. Wrong, as always. > I have tried Street View many times since it was > first introduced, and haven't found it useful to me. Because you are too stupid to use it where it’s the best way to do something. > Hem and haw all you want, but you cannot change that fact. Its nothing even remotely like a fact. >>> Don't need it. >> You don’t know that. > Yes, you clearly know better than anyone what I need... I didn’t say anything about what you need. >>> Apple Maps gets me everywhere I need to go without issue, >> >> So far. >> >>> and Google Maps sits mostly unused on my phone. >> >> And Apple Maps will eventually let you down like any mapper does >> sometimes. > > *WHOOSH*... You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
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