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  Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:28 -0700
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 11:37 -0400
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:55 -0700
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 12:33 -0400
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:47 -0700
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-06-30 18:20 +0100
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 12:41 -0500
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 17:49 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:52 +0000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:24 +0000
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 02:37 +0000
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:43 +0000
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 12:09 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:05 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:26 +0000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:47 +0000
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-30 21:44 +0000
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 08:38 -0700
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:59 -0700
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:25 -0700
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 11:02 -0500
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-06-30 17:17 -0400
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 21:38 +0000
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-30 21:50 -0400
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 02:06 +0000
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 17:49 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:39 +0000
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 16:55 +0100
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:58 -0700
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 17:04 +0100
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 09:15 -0700
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:19 +0100
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:24 +0000
                              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
                                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 01:32 +0000
                                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-02 10:00 +0100
                                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:27 +1000
                                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 13:23 +0000
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:14 +1000
                              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:32 +0100
                                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:40 +1000
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:03 +1000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:17 +0000
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:20 +0100
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:25 +0000
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:43 -0700
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:42 -0700
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:06 +1000
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:22 +0000
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:33 +1000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:27 -0400
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:58 +1000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:24 -0400
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:28 +0000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:10 +1000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:53 +1000
                    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:17 +0000
                      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:24 +1000
                        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:34 +0000
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:36 +0100
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:46 +1000
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 18:24 -0700
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-01 21:48 -0400
                          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:45 +1000
                            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:35 +0000
                              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:20 +1000
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-01 09:04 -0400
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Neil Ellwood <niel.elllwood2@btinternet.com> - 2014-07-01 03:10 -0500
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 07:52 -0700
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 07:10 +1000
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 17:20 +0000
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 11:00 -0700
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 18:10 +0000

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#61621

In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> 
> > In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> > 
> >> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
> >> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
> >> > what the destination building's like, etc.
> >> 
> >> While you are driving?
> >> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn navigation.
> > 
> > Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, do I.
> 
> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & 
> Google Maps are used on more than desktops.

Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#61625

On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>> 
>> > In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>> > 
>> >> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>> >> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
>> >> > what the destination building's like, etc.
>> >> 
>> >> While you are driving?
>> >> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn navigation.
>> > 
>> > Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, do I.
>> 
>> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & 
>> Google Maps are used on more than desktops.
>
> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.

The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
too cheap to own an iPhone...

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61666

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>> 
>>>> In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>>> 
>>>>>> I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>>>>>> somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
>>>>>> what the destination building's like, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> While you are driving?
>>>>> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn navigation.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, do I.
>>> 
>>> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & 
>>> Google Maps are used on more than desktops.
>> 
>> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
>> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.
> 
> The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
> too cheap to own an iPhone...

There's more than one reason not to own one. They don't work in my house
any more than my iPad can reach my wifi from the yard: reinforced concrete
walls and roof 8-). A cheap stupid cell phone in my car for emergenciy use
suffices when I'm away from my landline.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#61668

On 2014-07-02, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
>>> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.
>> 
>> The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
>> too cheap to own an iPhone...
>
> There's more than one reason not to own one.

He stated the reason was expense above.

-- 
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#61682

In article <c1h5q8Fbe7qU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-02, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
> >>> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.
> >> 
> >> The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
> >> too cheap to own an iPhone...
> >
> > There's more than one reason not to own one.
> 
> He stated the reason was expense above.

No I didn't. I said I have a cheap PAYG mobile that costs me £15/year.
Why should I spend £30/month or whatever a contract would cost, to no
particular benefit. If you do that, then hey fella, I got a nice
portfolio of bridges.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#61685

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:020720141000327546%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> In article <c1h5q8Fbe7qU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-02, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> >>> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
>> >>> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.
>> >>
>> >> The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
>> >> too cheap to own an iPhone...
>> >
>> > There's more than one reason not to own one.
>>
>> He stated the reason was expense above.
>
> No I didn't. I said I have a cheap PAYG mobile that costs me £15/year.
> Why should I spend £30/month or whatever a contract would cost,

You don’t have to have a contract, or pay anything like that per month 
either.

> to no particular benefit.

There are lots of benefits over a stupidphone.
 

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#61690

On 2014-07-02, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <c1h5q8Fbe7qU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-02, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> >>> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for. I have a cheap PAYG
>> >>> mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on annually, tops.
>> >> 
>> >> The rest of the world can't read your mind and magically know you are
>> >> too cheap to own an iPhone...
>> >
>> > There's more than one reason not to own one.
>> 
>> He stated the reason was expense above.
>
> No I didn't. I said I have a cheap PAYG mobile that costs me £15/year.
> Why should I spend £30/month or whatever a contract would cost, to no
> particular benefit. If you do that, then hey fella, I got a nice
> portfolio of bridges.

Thanks for proving me right. It's about money for you.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61640

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:010720141819068341%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>> said:
>>
>> > In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>> >> said:
>> >
>> >> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>> >> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's 
>> >> > like,
>> >> > what the destination building's like, etc.
>> >>
>> >> While you are driving?
>> >> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn 
>> >> navigation.
>> >
>> > Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, do 
>> > I.
>>
>> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & Google 
>> Maps are used on more than desktops.
>
> Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for.

For the convenience of getting turn by turn navigation right to the door.

> I have a cheap PAYG mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on 
> annually, tops.

It costs me quite literally just 5c per navigation.
Peanuts compared with the cost of the petrol alone.

And very handy indeed when you turn up at the place
where it was supposed to be and find that its moved
and that the move hasn’t made it from google to
maps.google or the apple mapper yet. 

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#61644

In article <c1gmnnF8k3fU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
> news:010720141819068341%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> > In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> >> said:
> >>
> >> > In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> >> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> >> >> said:
> >> >
> >> >> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
> >> >> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's 
> >> >> > like,
> >> >> > what the destination building's like, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> While you are driving?
> >> >> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn 
> >> >> navigation.
> >> >
> >> > Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, do 
> >> > I.
> >>
> >> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & Google 
> >> Maps are used on more than desktops.
> >
> > Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for.
> 
> For the convenience of getting turn by turn navigation right to the door.

By and large that's called SWMBO navigating while I drive. Or vice
versa. She's a very good navigator.

> > I have a cheap PAYG mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on 
> > annually, tops.
> 
> It costs me quite literally just 5c per navigation.
> Peanuts compared with the cost of the petrol alone.
> 
> And very handy indeed when you turn up at the place
> where it was supposed to be and find that its moved
> and that the move hasn’t made it from google to
> maps.google or the apple mapper yet.

We've been considering a SatNav (or iphone + satnav software) for 10
years. We're still considering it. The only time it'll beat what we
actually do is if we need to find a specific spot in a strange town
(i.e. somewhere we'd not planned to go ahead of time) and whatever maps
we have are insufficient. But that's rare enough that we've never got
around to getting one. OS maps usually do the business anyway.

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#61653

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:010720142232189836%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> In article <c1gmnnF8k3fU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
>> news:010720141819068341%timstreater@greenbee.net...
>> > In article <2014070109154259527-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-01 16:04:35 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>> >> said:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> >> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater 
>> >> >> <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a 
>> >> >> > meeting
>> >> >> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's 
>> >> >> > like,
>> >> >> > what the destination building's like, etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> While you are driving?
>> >> >> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn 
>> >> >> navigation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course not while I'm driving. I don't take the desktop with me, 
>> >> > do I.
>> >>
>> >> You could be using an iPhone, iPod Touch, or an iPad. Apple Maps & 
>> >> Google Maps are used on more than desktops.
>> >
>> > Ah, give over. What would I want one of them for.
>>
>> For the convenience of getting turn by turn navigation right to the door.
>
> By and large that's called SWMBO navigating while I drive. Or vice
> versa. She's a very good navigator.

But isnt always available to do that and even a
very good navigator can't do anything about a place
that has moved with the map not being updated yet.

>> > I have a cheap PAYG mobile that I doubt I put more than fifteen quid on 
>> > annually, tops.
>>
>> It costs me quite literally just 5c per navigation.
>> Peanuts compared with the cost of the petrol alone.
>>
>> And very handy indeed when you turn up at the place
>> where it was supposed to be and find that its moved
>> and that the move hasn’t made it from google to
>> maps.google or the apple mapper yet.

> We've been considering a SatNav (or iphone + satnav software) for 10 
> years. We're still considering it.

And have missed out on the convenience of it
because you haven't done what makes sense.

> The only time it'll beat what we actually do is if we need to find a 
> specific spot in a strange town (i.e. somewhere we'd not planned to go 
> ahead of time)

Or when you show up at a place that has moved and
find that it has moved and hasn’t left adequate info
on where it has moved to. I just had that on Monday.

> and whatever maps we have are insufficient. But that's rare enough that 
> we've never got
> around to getting one.

But if you had got a decent smartphone
you would have had things more convenient
for quite a while now.

> OS maps usually do the business anyway.

Much more convenient to use a smartphone
mapper which can use the operation's name
etc or just show you the nearest place where
you can do some particular thing. 

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#61636

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message 
news:2014070108582387866-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2014-07-01 15:55:10 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> said:
>
>> In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message >
>>> news:c1ejdqFpeceU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >> On 2014-07-01, Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> FWIW: Several months before Apple's map app came out, I reported an
>>> >>> error to Google. It still had not been fixed when the Apple app 
>>> >>> became
>>> >>> available, and IT got it right. After a little more checking, I 
>>> >>> switched
>>> >>> and haven't looked back since.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for that anecdote. I've seen errors in Google Maps over the 
>>> >> years
>>> >> as well. I am sure there are plenty of examples of long-standing 
>>> >> flaws
>>> >> in Google's data. Logic dictates that in this fast-paced, 
>>> >> ever-changing
>>> >> world, there is likely no such thing as an error-free map.
>>> >>
>>> >> Likewise, I switched to Apple's Maps as soon as it was released, and
>>> >> have found it roughly similar to Google Maps in terms of map quality 
>>> >> for
>>> >> the areas and cities I frequent - so similar, I can't recall the last
>>> >> time I opened Google Maps on my iPhone.
>>> >
>>> > I prefer google maps for the street view.
>>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
>>> fine, thanks.
>>
>> I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>> somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
>> what the destination building's like, etc.
>
> While you are driving?

Yep.

> I can see doing that for trip planing, not for turn-by-turn navigation.

I use it when I specify the destination for turn by turn navigation.

On the garage/yard sale run I normally do that just before leaving
a garage/yard sale for the next one before driving off.

I did it a couple of days ago too when I went to where I thought
a closing down sale was, discovered that it wasn’t where I thought
it was, got maps.google to tell me where it was, got it to show me
the street view of where it claimed it was, saw that it clearly was
not where it claimed it should be, because I could see that it was
supposed to be next to the pub and I could see that it wasn’t.
So it must have moved and the database had not been updated.
Got google to tell me where it was, and that's where it actually was.
 

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#61614

On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I prefer google maps for the street view. 
>> 
>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
>> fine, thanks.
>
> I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
> somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
> what the destination building's like, etc.

I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
for my purposes. : ) No street view needed. I'll stay with Apple Maps. I
do have Google Maps and others installed, but rarely use them, since
Apple Maps does all I need. 

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61622

In article <c1g58lF4erhU5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I prefer google maps for the street view. 
> >> 
> >> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
> >> fine, thanks.
> >
> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
> > what the destination building's like, etc.
> 
> I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
> for my purposes.

The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#61626

On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <c1g58lF4erhU5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I prefer google maps for the street view. 
>> >> 
>> >> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
>> >> fine, thanks.
>> >
>> > I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>> > somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
>> > what the destination building's like, etc.
>> 
>> I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
>> for my purposes.
>
> The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
> looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.

Not needed. As I said, I can see enough of the buildings and parking
lots to get where I need to go. Street View is more of a novelty for me.

-- 
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JR

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#61628

In article <c1g97pF5nutU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> > The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
> > looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.
> 
> Not needed. As I said, I can see enough of the buildings and parking
> lots to get where I need to go. Street View is more of a novelty for me.

this discussion prompted me to use street view to look at the homes I
used to own.

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#61665

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <c1g97pF5nutU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>>> The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
>>> looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.
>> 
>> Not needed. As I said, I can see enough of the buildings and parking
>> lots to get where I need to go. Street View is more of a novelty for me.
> 
> this discussion prompted me to use street view to look at the homes I
> used to own.

Google Earth has street view in places as well as all those Panoramio
photos. I use it on trips at times.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#61627

In article <010720141820343585%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
> > for my purposes.
> 
> The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
> looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.

with flyover, you can.

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#61633

On 2014-07-01, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <010720141820343585%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
><timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> > I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
>> > for my purposes.
>> 
>> The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
>> looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.
>
> with flyover, you can.

Flyover is similar, but neither one is an indispensable feature for me.

-- 
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JR

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#61661

In article <010720141042272164%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > I can see enough of the buildings and parking lots with satellite view
> > > for my purposes.
> > 
> > The tops of, yes. But you aint gonna see what the building actually
> > looks like from satellite view. Or the environs.
> 
> with flyover, you can.

not really, especially in areas where there is no flyover.

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#61637

"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message 
news:c1g58lF4erhU5@mid.individual.net...
> On 2014-07-01, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <c1g30sF4erhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I prefer google maps for the street view.
>>>
>>> I find Street View to be largely unnecessary. So Apple Maps will do just
>>> fine, thanks.
>>
>> I use street view all the time especially if I'm going to a meeting
>> somewhere I've not been before. Useful to see what the parking's like,
>> what the destination building's like, etc.
>
> I can see enough of the buildings and parking
> lots with satellite view for my purposes. : )

Doesn’t work for the sign outside a commercial operation.

> No street view needed.

It is for a commercial operation.

> I'll stay with Apple Maps.

More fool you.

> I do have Google Maps and others installed, but
> rarely use them, since Apple Maps does all I need.

Only because you are too stupid to use street view where its useful. 

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