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  new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-18 07:33 -0700
    Re: new iMac Steve <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-06-18 17:20 +0200
      Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-18 08:31 -0700
        Re: new iMac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-18 08:43 -0700
          Re: new iMac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-18 16:54 +0100
        Re: new iMac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-18 16:54 +0100
          Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-18 09:03 -0700
            Re: new iMac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-18 18:10 +0100
            Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-18 14:49 -0400
            Re: new iMac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-19 05:20 +0200
        Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-18 14:44 -0400
        Re: new iMac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-19 05:15 +0200
          Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-19 16:04 +1200
          Re: new iMac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-19 16:29 +1200
            Re: new iMac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-19 12:40 -0400
              Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 17:07 +0000
          Re: new iMac Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-18 22:35 -0700
      Re: new iMac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-19 05:02 +0200
        Re: new iMac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-19 16:29 +1200
          Re: new iMac Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-19 10:47 +0200
            Re: new iMac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-20 12:04 +1200
              Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-20 13:46 +1200
          Re: new iMac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-20 20:59 +1200
            Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-21 10:46 +1200
    Re: new iMac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-18 11:38 -0400
      Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-18 15:23 -0400
    Re: new iMac Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-18 16:42 +0000
      Re: new iMac Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 12:07 -0500
      Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-18 19:41 +0000
        Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-18 18:24 -0400
          Re: new iMac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-18 23:30 +0100
          Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-18 15:52 -0700
          Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-19 01:17 +0000
            Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-19 12:57 -0400
              Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 17:09 +0000
                Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-20 15:46 -0400
                  Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 20:17 +0000
                    Re: new iMac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-20 22:30 +0100
                    Re: new iMac George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-20 16:43 -0500
                      Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 15:27 -0700
                        Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-20 18:43 -0400
                          Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 17:05 -0700
                            Re: new iMac George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-20 19:49 -0500
                              Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 18:29 -0700
                              Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-21 13:10 -0400
                    Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-20 18:42 -0400
                      Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 22:55 +0000
                      Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 17:07 -0700
                        Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-21 13:07 -0400
                          Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-21 14:22 -0700
                    Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-21 13:08 -0400
                  Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 14:35 -0700
                    Re: new iMac George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-20 16:44 -0500
                    Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-20 22:23 +0000
                      Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-21 13:12 -0400
                  Re: new iMac George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-20 16:42 -0500
                    Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-20 15:24 -0700
                      Re: new iMac George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-20 19:42 -0500
    Re: new iMac Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 11:16 -0500
      Re: new iMac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-18 13:38 -0400
        Re: new iMac Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 12:59 -0500
      Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-19 09:32 +1200
        Re: new iMac "Mr. Jo Jo" <josephjohns@gmail.com> - 2014-06-18 18:16 -0400
    Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-18 19:39 +0000
      Re: new iMac Kaltsas, Alexander <macdude22@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 15:06 -0500
      Re: new iMac Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-18 21:56 +0000
      Re: new iMac Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-08-11 16:19 -0400
    Re: new iMac Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-18 21:19 -0500
      Re: new iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 03:06 +0000
        Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-19 18:04 +0000
      Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-19 16:08 +1200
    Re: new iMac "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-06-19 06:22 -0700
      Re: new iMac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-19 07:12 -0700
        Re: new iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-19 11:46 -0400
        Re: new iMac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-19 18:08 +0000
          Re: new iMac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-20 12:04 +1200
    Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-21 07:31 -0400
      Re: new iMac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-21 15:16 -0400
        Re: new iMac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-21 17:59 -0400
      Re: new iMac Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-08-11 16:40 -0400
        Re: new iMac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 18:52 +1200

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#61156

Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> On 2014-06-19, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> >
> >> It looks as though there might be a stock clearance on Mac minis at the
> >> moment.  Earlier this year one of my local discount places had a time
> >> limited offer at CHF 599.  When they did that again at Easter I bit.
> >
> > The price drop on the Mac Mini (and previously existing iMac models, and
> > the Apple TV) is only known to be occurring in Europe (including the
> > UK). It is just an exchange rate adjustment across a class of related
> > models, not evidence of clearing out old models.
> 
> Agreed that the Apple Store price change is an exchange rate adjustment, but
> this year is the first time I have seen dealers offering discounts of more
> than 10 or 20 bucks (and some of those would charge for delivery where
> Apple does not, so you would be back to square one).
> 
> The discounter I bought from has only started selling Apple kit within the
> last year pr 18 months, and another largish one became an Apple distributor
> a couple of months ago.  The second of those discounters definitely has
> corporate customers.
> 
> This appears to me to be a shift in Apple's distribution policy: neither of
> the two distributors have retail outlets kitted out like Apple dealers; they
> don't really need them since their operations are mainly mail order based.

Actually, now that I think about it, there has been a changed pattern
this year in New Zealand with frequent "10% off" weekend sales on Macs
from many Apple resellers (there are no Apple Stores in New Zealand, so
I don't have them as a point of comparison).

I haven't noticed any particular timing relative to the introduction of
model updates - they've been almost continuous and have been going on
for months, so it doesn't really fit with stock clearance prior to new
models.

In previous years there might have been a discount like that perhaps
every two or three months, from one retailer at a time.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#61164

In article <1lnja94.ov5kj8n2puh0N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> > On 2014-06-19, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > > Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It looks as though there might be a stock clearance on Mac minis at the
> > >> moment.  Earlier this year one of my local discount places had a time
> > >> limited offer at CHF 599.  When they did that again at Easter I bit.
> > >
> > > The price drop on the Mac Mini (and previously existing iMac models, and
> > > the Apple TV) is only known to be occurring in Europe (including the
> > > UK). It is just an exchange rate adjustment across a class of related
> > > models, not evidence of clearing out old models.
> > 
> > Agreed that the Apple Store price change is an exchange rate adjustment, but
> > this year is the first time I have seen dealers offering discounts of more
> > than 10 or 20 bucks (and some of those would charge for delivery where
> > Apple does not, so you would be back to square one).
> > 
> > The discounter I bought from has only started selling Apple kit within the
> > last year pr 18 months, and another largish one became an Apple distributor
> > a couple of months ago.  The second of those discounters definitely has
> > corporate customers.
> > 
> > This appears to me to be a shift in Apple's distribution policy: neither of
> > the two distributors have retail outlets kitted out like Apple dealers; they
> > don't really need them since their operations are mainly mail order based.
> 
> Actually, now that I think about it, there has been a changed pattern
> this year in New Zealand with frequent "10% off" weekend sales on Macs
> from many Apple resellers (there are no Apple Stores in New Zealand, so
> I don't have them as a point of comparison).
> 
> I haven't noticed any particular timing relative to the introduction of
> model updates - they've been almost continuous and have been going on
> for months, so it doesn't really fit with stock clearance prior to new
> models.
> 
> In previous years there might have been a discount like that perhaps
> every two or three months, from one retailer at a time.

Dick Smith and JB Hi-Fi are the main two which quite often have 10% off
sales of various models or all models for no apparent reason, but most
usually it is in the couple of months leading up to a refresh / update.
Although you have to be careful - there was a recent sale which was
actually still trying to sell off the previous "end of life" models.

They may have been "told off" by Apple for doing that with specific
models, so now discount others as well to try and hide the up-coming
refresh. 

The new iMac could explain the recent sales, especially if the other
iMac models were going to be speed-bumped and Apple has decided to hold
off for a bit longer.

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#61183

David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-06-18, Steve <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > > In article <180620140733336542%michelle@michelle.org>,
> > >  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There's a new, lower-cost iMac; here's a comparison with the former
> > >> bottom-end iMac (which is still available as the middle iMac).
> > >> 
> > >> New            Former
> > >> $1099          $1299
> > >> 
> > >> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
> > >> dual-core      quad-core
> > >> i5             i5
> > >> 
> > >> 500GB          1TB
> > >> hard drive     hard drive
> > >> 
> > >> Intel HD       Intel Iris Pro
> > >> Graphics 5000  Graphics
> > >
> > > Still way too expensive. My 2009 Mac Mini cost 499,- euro. The latest
> > > model 619,-, which is all you need. My $0.02
> > >
> > > https://www.apple.com/nl/mac-mini/
> > 
> > The latest Mac mini has the Intel HD Graphics 4000 card.  I don't know how
> > much of a performance gain the 5000 version quoted above brings.
> > 
> > I've just looked up the price in the Swiss Apple Store and the Mac mini
> > has come down 20 Swiss Francs since I last looked (now CHF 679 rather than
> > 699).
> > 
> > It looks as though there might be a stock clearance on Mac minis at the
> > moment.  Earlier this year one of my local discount places had a time
> > limited offer at CHF 599.  When they did that again at Easter I bit.
> 
> The price drop on the Mac Mini (and previously existing iMac models, and
> the Apple TV) is only known to be occurring in Europe (including the
> UK). It is just an exchange rate adjustment across a class of related
> models, not evidence of clearing out old models.
> 
> For the recent MacBook Air update, New Zealand had a more significant
> price drop on MacBook Pro models at the same time. Again, this was just
> an exchange rate correction. NZ didn't get any changed prices for the
> iMac, Mac Mini or Apple TV this time, and neither did the US.

Update: today the NZ Apple Store is showing a reduced price for the Mac
Mini, previous iMac models, Mac Pro and Apple TV. The price drops are
around 8% to 11%, with some variations to meet standard price points.

It looks like I was seeing an out of date cached copy of the prices
yesterday, or Apple delayed updating the prices on the NZ store for some
reason.

I haven't check other countries, but the US prices are the same as
before, so this is just an exchange rate correction for each country
outside the US. The NZ$ is worth more US$ than it was last September
when the iMacs were introduced.

Dick Smith has a "10% off Macs" sale until the end of the month (longer
than the recent weekend specials). Desktop Macs are 10% off Apple's
previous price (so generally slightly cheaper than Apple's current
price); notebook Macs are also 10% off Apple's current price.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#61261

In article <1lnk3l8.9whcqa1xxa6eoN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> 
<snip>
> 
> Dick Smith has a "10% off Macs" sale until the end of the month (longer
> than the recent weekend specials). Desktop Macs are 10% off Apple's
> previous price (so generally slightly cheaper than Apple's current
> price); notebook Macs are also 10% off Apple's current price.

You can take that Dick Smith price to The Good Guys (I think it is) and
they've got a guarantee to beat it. Most of the other chain stores will
price-match if you want to buy from a particular chaing to get Flybuys
bonus points or something.  :-)

The problem is that these discount sales are only available for the
stock models. If you want any customised options, then you won't get
the discount - so getting a fully specc'ed build-to-order iMac at 10%
off is not possible.  :-(

The Good Guys also give you a discount at any time off their sticker
price if you are NOT using their finance options (i.e. pay by cash,
credit card, cheque, etc.). I haven't checked, but PB Tech may also
have a discounted price if paying by cash (but not credit card).

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#61076

On 6/18/14, 10:33 a, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> There's a new, lower-cost iMac; here's a comparison with the former
> bottom-end iMac (which is still available as the middle iMac).
>
> New            Former
> $1099          $1299
>
> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
> dual-core      quad-core
> i5             i5
>
> 500GB          1TB
> hard drive     hard drive
>
> Intel HD       Intel Iris Pro
> Graphics 5000  Graphics

A not very favorable review:

Apple’s new $1,099 iMac is a MacBook Air in a desktop’s body:
21.5-inch entry-level model saves you $200 but loses quite a bit of power.
<http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/06/apples-new-1099-imac-is-a-macbook-air-in-a-desktops-body/>

-- 
Just remember that optimism looks exactly like doing nothing.
      --Wally, Dilbert 2010.7.17

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#61088

On 2014.06.18, 11:38 , Fred Moore wrote:
> On 6/18/14, 10:33 a, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> There's a new, lower-cost iMac; here's a comparison with the former
>> bottom-end iMac (which is still available as the middle iMac).
>>
>> New            Former
>> $1099          $1299
>>
>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>> dual-core      quad-core
>> i5             i5
>>
>> 500GB          1TB
>> hard drive     hard drive
>>
>> Intel HD       Intel Iris Pro
>> Graphics 5000  Graphics
>
> A not very favorable review:
>
> Apple’s new $1,099 iMac is a MacBook Air in a desktop’s body:
> 21.5-inch entry-level model saves you $200 but loses quite a bit of power.
> <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/06/apples-new-1099-imac-is-a-macbook-air-in-a-desktops-body/>

But it's .... a Mac!

The displays on Mac are very clear and sharp compared to most (not all) 
other all-in-ones.

This thing would almost be acceptable if the "beast" in it were a Mac 
Mini plug in module that could be changed out over time...

-- 
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.

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#61081

For your reference, records indicate that 
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> New            Former
> $1099          $1299
> 
> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
> dual-core      quad-core
> i5             i5
> 
> 500GB          1TB
> hard drive     hard drive

Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 20% the
Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that.  What is
Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?  Now they
*might* have something worth buying if this means we could soon get a
Mac mini (nano?) with similar specs at $299.

-- 
dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ

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#61089

This iMac is going to go down as the first Road Apple (LEM) in a long while.

On 2014-06-18 16:42:13 +0000, Darrin "Doc" O'Leary said:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> New            Former
>> $1099          $1299
>> 
>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>> dual-core      quad-core
>> i5             i5
>> 
>> 500GB          1TB
>> hard drive     hard drive
> 
> Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 20% the
> Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that.  What is
> Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?  Now they
> *might* have something worth buying if this means we could soon get a
> Mac mini (nano?) with similar specs at $299.

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#61091

In message <lnsfh4$e08$1@dont-email.me> 
  Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>> New            Former
>> $1099          $1299
>> 
>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>> dual-core      quad-core
>> i5             i5
>> 
>> 500GB          1TB
>> hard drive     hard drive

> Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 20% the
> Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that.  What is
> Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?

Yes, and iMac displays are very good. 

-- 
They say only the good die young. If it works the other way too I'm
immortal

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#61100

"Lewis"  wrote in message news:slrnlq3qr9.bd2.g.kreme@amelia.local...

In message <lnsfh4$e08$1@dont-email.me>
  Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>> New            Former
>> $1099          $1299
>>
>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>> dual-core      quad-core
>> i5             i5
>>
>> 500GB          1TB
>> hard drive     hard drive

> Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 
> 20% the
> Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that. 
> What is
> Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?

>Yes, and iMac displays are very good.

Really?

Since when?

http://www.inquisitr.com/476971/27-inch-imac-delays-caused-by-lg-display-problems/ 

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#61101

In article <8koov.33221$ff5.8797@fx24.iad>, Mr. Jo Jo
<josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Lewis"  wrote in message news:slrnlq3qr9.bd2.g.kreme@amelia.local...
> 
> In message <lnsfh4$e08$1@dont-email.me>
>   Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> > For your reference, records indicate that
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> >> New            Former
> >> $1099          $1299
> >>
> >> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
> >> dual-core      quad-core
> >> i5             i5
> >>
> >> 500GB          1TB
> >> hard drive     hard drive
> 
> > Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 
> > 20% the
> > Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that. 
> > What is
> > Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?
> 
> >Yes, and iMac displays are very good.
> 
> Really?
> 
> Since when?
> 
> http://www.inquisitr.com/476971/27-inch-imac-delays-caused-by-lg-display-problems/ 

That's 18 months old. So your point is *what* precisely?

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#61103

In article <8koov.33221$ff5.8797@fx24.iad>, Mr. Jo Jo
<josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:

> >Yes, and iMac displays are very good.
> 
> Really?
> 
> Since when?
> 
> http://www.inquisitr.com/476971/27-inch-imac-delays-caused-by-lg-display-problems/ 
> 
Since that problem was fixed, and before then for the 21.5" iMacs.

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#61104

In message <8koov.33221$ff5.8797@fx24.iad> 
  Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:


> "Lewis"  wrote in message news:slrnlq3qr9.bd2.g.kreme@amelia.local...

> In message <lnsfh4$e08$1@dont-email.me>
>   Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>>> New            Former
>>> $1099          $1299
>>>
>>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>>> dual-core      quad-core
>>> i5             i5
>>>
>>> 500GB          1TB
>>> hard drive     hard drive

>> Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s 
>> 20% the
>> Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that. 
>> What is
>> Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?

>>Yes, and iMac displays are very good.

> Really?

Yes.

> Since when?

Always.

> http://www.inquisitr.com/476971/27-inch-imac-delays-caused-by-lg-display-problems/ 

Right. DELAYS in shipping because Apple would not ship inferior panels.

In December, 2012.

-- 
I've always had a flair for stage directions.

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#61134

"Lewis"  wrote in message news:slrnlq4ehb.j3g.g.kreme@amelia.local...

In message <8koov.33221$ff5.8797@fx24.iad>
  Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:


> "Lewis"  wrote in message 
> news:slrnlq3qr9.bd2.g.kreme@amelia.local...

> In message <lnsfh4$e08$1@dont-email.me>
>   Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>>> New            Former
>>> $1099          $1299
>>>
>>> 1.4GHz         2.7GHz
>>> dual-core      quad-core
>>> i5             i5
>>>
>>> 500GB          1TB
>>> hard drive     hard drive

>> Half the cores at half the clock rate and half the storage.  It’s
>> 20% the
>> Mac at 80% the price.  Nobody in their right mind would buy that.
>> What is
>> Apple thinking?  Is the monitor really the majority of the cost?

>>Yes, and iMac displays are very good.

> Really?

>Yes.

> Since when?

>Always.

> http://www.inquisitr.com/476971/27-inch-imac-delays-caused-by-lg-display-problems/


Fooling yourself?  In denial?  Or only ignorant?

http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/20/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-problems-in-every-dimension/







>Right. DELAYS in shipping because Apple would not ship inferior 
>panels.

>In December, 2012.

-- 
I've always had a flair for stage directions. 

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#61136

On 2014-06-19, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fooling yourself?  In denial?  Or only ignorant?
>
> http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/20/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-problems-in-every-dimension/

Because any display that ever has any sort of problem MUST be crap!

Troll on, trollboi...

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61225

"Jolly Roger"  wrote in message 
news:c0gjpeFh164U2@mid.individual.net...

On 2014-06-19, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fooling yourself?  In denial?  Or only ignorant?
>
> http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/20/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-problems-in-every-dimension/

>Because any display that ever has any sort of problem MUST be crap!

Right.


But Macs aren't supposed to be crap.  They're supposed to just work. 
They're not supposed to have problems. Especially at their price 
point.  And that was true, once upon a time.

Those Lucky Goldstar displays Apple was using were bottom of the 
barrel.  Top dollar for a low buck display.


>Troll on, trollboi...


Keep Shilling for a large corporation, Shill.  Hope they're paying 
you. 

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#61231

On 2014-06-20, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Jolly Roger"  wrote in message 
> news:c0gjpeFh164U2@mid.individual.net...
>
> On 2014-06-19, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fooling yourself?  In denial?  Or only ignorant?
>>
>> http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/20/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-problems-in-every-dimension/
>
>>Because any display that ever has any sort of problem MUST be crap!
>
> Right.

And since there is no display in existence that hasn't ever had any sort
of problem, I guess you would have to agree all displays are crap.
Personally, I use my brain power to measure actual quality and return on
investment to make such judgements. To each, their own - stupid is as
stupid does.

> But Macs aren't supposed to be crap.  They're supposed to just work. 
> They're not supposed to have problems. Especially at their price 
> point.  And that was true, once upon a time.

Pure bullshit on every count. All products have problems, which is why
there are warranties and support policies. And the only one claiming
Macs aren't supposed to have such problems is you. You look like the
stupendous idiot you are now. Great work.

> Those Lucky Goldstar displays Apple was using were bottom of the 
> barrel.  Top dollar for a low buck display.

And without a shred of evidence of it, I will naturally assume you are
neither right nor wrong, and are just blowing hot air.

>>Troll on, trollboi...
>
> Keep Shilling for a large corporation, Shill.  Hope they're paying 
> you. 

They are, and quite well! I bought into AAPL a few years ago when it was
relatively dirt cheap, and it has been the best investment I ever made.
I also get paid a nice dividend every quarter. It's really nice to see
your bank account get a nice bump up every quarter! : ) I'm sure that
just chaps your little red ass, and frankly, I'm happy about that. Keep
on hating, little hater boi - it's what you do best. ; )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#61239

In article <c0jj7cF5op2U2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> I'm sure that just chaps your little red ass, ...

I say, d'ye mind? I don't wish to know that.

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#61243

On 6/20/14 3:17 PM, in article c0jj7cF5op2U2@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-20, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "Jolly Roger"  wrote in message
>> news:c0gjpeFh164U2@mid.individual.net...
>> 
>> On 2014-06-19, Mr. Jo Jo <josephjohns@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fooling yourself?  In denial?  Or only ignorant?
>>> 
>>> http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/20/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-problems-in-ev
>>> ery-dimension/
>> 
>>> Because any display that ever has any sort of problem MUST be crap!
>> 
>> Right.
> 
> And since there is no display in existence that hasn't ever had any sort
> of problem, I guess you would have to agree all displays are crap.
> Personally, I use my brain power to measure actual quality and return on
> investment to make such judgements. To each, their own - stupid is as
> stupid does.
> 
>> But Macs aren't supposed to be crap.  They're supposed to just work.
>> They're not supposed to have problems. Especially at their price
>> point.  And that was true, once upon a time.
> 
> Pure bullshit on every count. All products have problems, which is why
> there are warranties and support policies. And the only one claiming
> Macs aren't supposed to have such problems is you. You look like the
> stupendous idiot you are now. Great work.
> 
>> Those Lucky Goldstar displays Apple was using were bottom of the
>> barrel.  Top dollar for a low buck display.
> 
> And without a shred of evidence of it, I will naturally assume you are
> neither right nor wrong, and are just blowing hot air.
> 
>>> Troll on, trollboi...
>> 
>> Keep Shilling for a large corporation, Shill.  Hope they're paying
>> you. 
> 
> They are, and quite well! I bought into AAPL a few years ago when it was
> relatively dirt cheap, and it has been the best investment I ever made.
> I also get paid a nice dividend every quarter. It's really nice to see
> your bank account get a nice bump up every quarter! : ) I'm sure that
> just chaps your little red ass, and frankly, I'm happy about that. Keep
> on hating, little hater boi - it's what you do best. ; )

That, and wanking...

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#61256

In article <CFCA151D.ACD4C%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm sure that just chaps your little red ass, and frankly, I'm
> > happy about that. Keep on hating, little hater boi - it's what you
> > do best. ; )
> 
> That, and wanking...

Probably, but I'm sure that he is not good at whacking.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w76ZxbPgBGs>

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