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| Started by | billy@MIX.COM |
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| First post | 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000 |
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Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:12 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 04:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 17:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 07:21 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:04 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 23:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:26 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-11 09:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:38 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 08:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 09:00 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:47 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:09 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:22 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 14:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 21:57 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 23:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 04:55 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 13:07 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 23:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:48 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 15:00 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:40 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-06 18:04 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 09:20 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:30 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:52 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-07 10:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-07 10:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:15 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-06 19:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:55 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:28 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 15:58 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 16:49 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-06-18 22:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:25 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:02 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 01:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 18:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:42 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-07 12:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 09:18 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 18:56 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 21:16 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:12 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 09:08 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 00:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:42 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 05:36 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 04:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:30 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:18 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:20 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:17 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:32 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-16 16:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-17 19:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-18 06:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-09 08:48 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 11:20 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 22:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-11 02:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 01:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 07:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 17:41 -0400
Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:17 +0000
Re: Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-16 14:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 04:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 14:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:35 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:22 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:58 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:54 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:24 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:10 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 18:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:08 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 21:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 08:51 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 00:00 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 09:49 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-15 14:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 04:23 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 23:36 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 14:57 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 17:40 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 19:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 23:18 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-13 21:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 19:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-14 17:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:08 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 16:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 07:53 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:44 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:48 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 18:55 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:43 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:50 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lna697.9qyfg0doqsgqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #60921 |
Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> wrote: > > > I am curious. What promotion have you done? > > Very little. My intent has been to see what grassroots interest there still > is in Usenet such that it justifies the resulting effort in developing a new > client. As a social network, it makes the most sense for people to tell > each other about it. I have referrals count toward perks to encourage that. > > > What blogs and mac news > > sites have mentioned your campaign? > > None, as far as I know. It may be that they see Usenet as a threat to the > user base of their own discussion forums. It may just be that nobody > particularly thinks Usenet is newsworthy any more. > > > What podcasts have you been on? > > Every single one that has invited me. So, again, none. > > > It's impossible for something like this to succeed without promotion, > > most of it organized in advance so you hit that first day with a good > > number of pledges. There's an art to using Kickstarter type sites, if > > you actually want funding. > > I want *genuine* funding. If the only money that's out there is from > headline donors who don't actually care or intend to actually use Usenet, > I can do without that money. So, yes, I could certainly have done more to > chase after money if that's mainly what I wanted, but what I mainly want to > do is create software, and if there just isn't enough interest in Usenet to > justify development, my time is better spent creating some other kind of > software. I would make comments on PR and effectively getting the word out; on sensible funding rather than pointlessly limiting one's self; on shooting yourself in the foot, ensuring failure, and then drawing the wrong conclusions... but I'd just get bullshit responses by people like dorayme claiming trollish behaviour on my part (by using troll behaviour on her part - irony), and more excuses by Doc for why he's dead set on doing it his way, despite the surety of failure. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2JadnShKL6oE6QrOnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60601 |
On 2014.06.09, 12:24 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2014.06.08, 10:54 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>> Regardless, I think you are way way overreacting. >>> >>> You're entitled to think anything you like. In many ways I believe the >>> OP is overreacting with his presentation that there is no "Mac solution" >>> to using usenet with a Mac. >> >> That's a flat-out lie. He never said that. > > I’ve said a number of times that Unison is out there, but Alan refuses to So change your tagline to ": this ain't Unison anymore Toto". > hear it because it makes him look foolish for parsing my tag line the way > he did (nevermind that he continually looks foolish for *not* admitting he > went overboard in taking offense at it). To my thinking, the sticking point > for Unison is that it wants everyone to pay to use it. I think a newsreader > pretty much as to end up being free at this point. Therein lies the paradox > of having to pay for something new to be free. I and others have more or less happily paid for all sorts of software that someone has invested time in making w/o guarantee of success. And sometime the overall package ain't that good, but good enough that we're willing, a year or so down the road, to fork over an upgrade license, and so on. And I contribute to donation ware (a surprisingly long list piles up after many years...). Unison is one that I paid for and got my buck's worth out of. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <-PWdnaiX2vI49grOnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60531 |
On 2014.06.08, 16:28 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.08, 10:54 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>> >>> Regardless, I think you are way way overreacting. >> >> You're entitled to think anything you like. In many ways I believe the >> OP is overreacting with his presentation that there is no "Mac solution" >> to using usenet with a Mac. > > That's a flat-out lie. He never said that. > QUOTE Bring Usenet Back to the Mac UNQUOTE Reality: It never went missing. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvpfk6Fkl8iU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60721 |
On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.08, 16:28 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2014.06.08, 10:54 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>> Regardless, I think you are way way overreacting. >>> >>> You're entitled to think anything you like. In many ways I believe the >>> OP is overreacting with his presentation that there is no "Mac solution" >>> to using usenet with a Mac. >> >> That's a flat-out lie. He never said that. >> > > QUOTE > Bring Usenet Back to the Mac > UNQUOTE > > Reality: It never went missing. Still pushing that sorry "marketing slogan != truth" point. The only point you are proving here is how huge an asshole you really are. You do realize that, don't you? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MOydnSXqwIlRTgXOnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60743 |
On 2014.06.10, 18:36 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.08, 16:28 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2014.06.08, 10:54 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Regardless, I think you are way way overreacting. >>>> >>>> You're entitled to think anything you like. In many ways I believe the >>>> OP is overreacting with his presentation that there is no "Mac solution" >>>> to using usenet with a Mac. >>> >>> That's a flat-out lie. He never said that. >>> >> >> QUOTE >> Bring Usenet Back to the Mac >> UNQUOTE >> >> Reality: It never went missing. > > Still pushing that sorry "marketing slogan != truth" point. The only > point you are proving here is how huge an asshole you really are. You do > realize that, don't you? Nope. Deception in advertising is just as bad as any deception. Keep bringing it up though. I'll keep replying the same thing. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvshs6F9fvaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60808 |
On 2014-06-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.10, 18:36 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2014.06.08, 16:28 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2014.06.08, 10:54 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Regardless, I think you are way way overreacting. >>>>> >>>>> You're entitled to think anything you like. In many ways I believe the >>>>> OP is overreacting with his presentation that there is no "Mac solution" >>>>> to using usenet with a Mac. >>>> >>>> That's a flat-out lie. He never said that. >>>> >>> >>> QUOTE >>> Bring Usenet Back to the Mac >>> UNQUOTE >>> >>> Reality: It never went missing. >> >> Still pushing that sorry "marketing slogan != truth" point. The only >> point you are proving here is how huge an asshole you really are. You do >> realize that, don't you? > > Nope. Deception in advertising is just as bad as any deception. Yet other untrue marketing slogans (pretty much all of the rest of them) just roll right off your back like butter? Sure, sure... That's what this is about, clearly... > Keep bringing it up though. I'll keep replying the same thing. You're the one who keeps bringing it up - as shown above. I haven't seen you rail this hard against a single other marketing slogan the entire time you've posted to these news groups. So clearly there is more to this than just what you are stating. You are being dishonest. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bvjd0fFboo8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60487 |
In article <080620140716344832%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <GqidnfUBT_IJ9QnOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) > > >> there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. > > > > > > You are being intellectually dishonest. > > > > You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about > > intellectually dishonest! > > As JR said, you're taking a marketing slogan way too literally! Relax, > go to Washington state and have a toke. > > -- Michelle JR never got out the E-ving... -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvjv96FfjjaU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60495 |
On 2014-06-08, android <here@there.was> wrote: > In article <080620140716344832%michelle@michelle.org>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >> In article <GqidnfUBT_IJ9QnOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >> > >> Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) >> > >> there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. >> > > >> > > You are being intellectually dishonest. >> > >> > You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >> > intellectually dishonest! >> >> As JR said, you're taking a marketing slogan way too literally! Relax, >> go to Washington state and have a toke. >> >> -- Michelle > > JR never got out the E-ving... Whatever that means. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln27o5$thr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60482 |
For your reference, records indicate that Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about > intellectually dishonest! That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the reality of NNTP not being a first-class protocol on *any* platform these days. There are newsreaders that run on the Mac, yes. There is even a non-free one that was developed *for* the Mac. But there is *nothing* out there that fills the niche that MT-NW did, and that is the problem I went looking to address. There is nothing I can do about the fact that you got your undies in a bunch over the current state of affairs for some reason. > If the world were clammoring for a perfect, "first-class" usenet client > with all the items you name it would a) exist or b) be worth developing > now and charging later. Well that’s what we’re testing out by experiment now, isn’t it? The state of newsreaders on the Mac has always *seemed* like it was clamoring for something better, but the market never seemed to materialize with anything that came along. Crowd funding, which seems to be your major issue, simply allows the tables to be turned: if you really want something, the burden is placed *on the market* to demonstrate it first. I have even gone the extra mile by beginning serious development before any funding was requested, which is not something a lot of crowd funding efforts bother to do (and likely why many of them fail to deliver on time (or at all)). So, fundamentally, we see things the same way, but the difference in our mentalities is that I’m working mainly from an evidence-based approach whereas you seem to be getting progressively detached from reality. > > No, Twitter and Facebook and Instagram are what do the job fine for mos= > t > > people. > > Since the subject is usenet clients changing the context is pretty poor > form. Oh, please. The context in reality is all social networking apps, and possibly even all message-based services (e.g., email and RSS apps). I have in my plans ways to expand Signal to cover many protocols (which is partly why I gave it a generic name like Signal), but that’s all a bit premature. The reality remains that people have *many* options for interacting with one another, and a great way for Usenet to *not* be one of them is to stifle innovation. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DOqdnd2mrp0l9QrOnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60514 |
On 2014.06.08, 13:49 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >> intellectually dishonest! > > That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else > understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the It is still patently wrong. > reality of NNTP not being a first-class protocol on *any* platform these > days. There are newsreaders that run on the Mac, yes. There is even a > non-free one that was developed *for* the Mac. But there is *nothing* out > there that fills the niche that MT-NW did, and that is the problem I went > looking to address. There is nothing I can do about the fact that you got > your undies in a bunch over the current state of affairs for some reason. Not really. Just don't assume that the sorry assed collection of usenet readers are not adequate to the basic function of usenet. Simple public message exchange. Glorified texting, wot. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvpev0Fkl8iU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60715 |
On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.08, 13:49 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >> For your reference, records indicate that >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >>> intellectually dishonest! >> >> That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else >> understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the > > It is still patently wrong. Still sticking to that story, huh? Marketing slogans are anything but literal statements of truth. Acting as if they are is dishonest. Are you railing against all of the rest of the millions of marketing slogans that are not patently correct, or is this just Doc's "lucky day"? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Q-idnUh4G72wVgXOnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60741 |
On 2014.06.10, 18:25 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.08, 13:49 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>> For your reference, records indicate that >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >>>> intellectually dishonest! >>> >>> That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else >>> understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the >> >> It is still patently wrong. > > Still sticking to that story, huh? Yep. If I have to suffer it's existence y'all have to suffer my objection to it. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvs1boF6r84U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60804 |
On 2014-06-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.10, 18:25 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2014.06.08, 13:49 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>>> For your reference, records indicate that >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >>>>> intellectually dishonest! >>>> >>>> That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else >>>> understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the >>> >>> It is still patently wrong. >> >> Still sticking to that story, huh? > > Yep. > > If I have to suffer it's existence y'all have to suffer my objection to it. Which makes it no less a double standard. We certainly haven't heard a peep from you about any other marketing slogans here in all this time. What you are doing is obvious. And it's pretty lame. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <A5mdnZzUM6TYSAXOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60807 |
On 2014.06.11, 17:51 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-11, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.10, 18:25 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2014.06.08, 13:49 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >>>>> For your reference, records indicate that >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about >>>>>> intellectually dishonest! >>>>> >>>>> That is a straw man you continue to construct for yourself. Everyone else >>>>> understands both the reality of my tag line as a marketing tool, and the >>>> >>>> It is still patently wrong. >>> >>> Still sticking to that story, huh? >> >> Yep. >> >> If I have to suffer it's existence y'all have to suffer my objection to it. > > Which makes it no less a double standard. We certainly haven't heard a > peep from you about any other marketing slogans here in all this time. > What you are doing is obvious. And it's pretty lame. Your claim - not mine. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvjv5vFfjjaU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60482 |
On 2014-06-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.07, 13:41 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >> For your reference, records indicate that >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) >>> there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. >> >> You are being intellectually dishonest. > > You're the one claiming there is no usenet for Mac. Talk about > intellectually dishonest! You are so transparent. Deliberately interpreting a marketing slogan literally so that you can claim it says something the author did not intend is being intellectually dishonest, Alan. If you really believe that others won't see right through what you are doing there, you must think people are really stupid. And you'd be wrong. > I don’t want “everyone” to fund >> it; I purposely only want the people who *can* see the value to fund it so >> that we can get back to having a FREE newsreader available that was >> designed *for* the Mac. And a fair shot at running on iOS, too. >> >> And there is not, nor has there ever been, Usenet as a first-class protocol >> on the Mac or any other platform. Name me a single other newsreader that >> has factored out the NNTP bits for reuse. Show me anywhere I can use curl >> on the command like to fetch a news: or nntp: URL. If it exists, I haven’t >> seen it. > > And few people care.i You seem to be a glaring exception. Why do you care so much? > There are a number of Mac solutions - their names > have been bandied about and they all do the essential things that usenet > clients must do. > > If the world were clammoring for a perfect, "first-class" usenet client > with all the items you name it would a) exist or b) be worth developing > now and charging later. What does it matter to you if he wishes to test those waters for himself? How does him doing that inconvenience you, exactly? >> *That* is my intent when I talk about bringing Usenet to the Mac. Unless >> you want to continue to appear to be a wing-nut, you have to acknowledge >> this reality. Or keep going on like you are, and filtering becomes a >> higher priority. :-) > > The wing-nut here is he who is trying to raise cash up front for > something with marginal additional benefit v. what is in the market. I gotta say, to me, that's hardly as bad as being the one who is so invested in railing against something that has no direct influence on him either way that he is willing to argue and rant about it for days on end. What I'm having a hard time figuring out is why you can't seem to just ignore the effort if you don't see any value in it, rather than putting this much energy into fighting it. It's very strange. I'd love to understand it. > Satisfying the needs for things like "curl on the command line to fetch > news" is not something very many people will actually use to yabber away > on usenet. So what? Why does something you see little use for bother you so much? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080620142031427539%invid@loclanet.com> |
| In reply to | #60482 |
In article <GqidnfUBT_IJ9QnOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > The wing-nut here is he who is trying to raise cash up front for > something with marginal additional benefit v. what is in the market. > Satisfying the needs for things like "curl on the command line to fetch > news" is not something very many people will actually use to yabber away > on usenet. > You are against the whole Kickstarter idea, then, I take it. (this was the first time I have used Indigogo, and was a bit miffed that they actually take your money up front then refund it if the project isn't funded. That might just be an artifact of the option for creators to get the money even if they don't reach their goal, though, and not just a way to get a few cents interest on the cash) -- Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!" 'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <GqidnfQBT_Ky9wnOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60444 |
On 2014.06.07, 13:41 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > BTW: * -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ Showed up fine too... -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bvd1ubF2dtvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60292 |
In article <zOmdnRvcH-Ihcw3OnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.05, 18:25 , Alan Browne wrote: > > On 2014.06.05, 11:36 , Paul Magnussen wrote: > >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: > >> > >>> Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet > >>> users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99% > >>> of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII. > >> > >> For American Usenet users, possibly, as Americans seem to disdain > >> accented characters (even in names like San José). > >> > >> For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première, > >> etc. it is not irrelevant. > > > > Even for this poor thunderbird user, those accents come through perfectly. > > > > Not sure about: ≠ ± which show on the screen when typing... > > Yep. They're okay reading too. > > Don't need no stinkin' Unicode for Usenet. No, you don't... But most people do provided that they wont to frequent non english language newsgroups. One should not forget that there is NNTP servers of the Usenet for special purposes. Most of don't se them but they are there and fill a need. To make a new NNTP client unaware of Uncode is lazy, unnecessary and rude. Of course, Goog et al IS trying to burn the global village down to the ground and I'm a part of the firebrigade... -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lmso3b$ilo$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60292 |
For your reference, records indicate that Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > Not sure about: =E2=89=A0 =C2=B1 which show on the screen when = > typing... > > Yep. They're okay reading too. Maybe not. As the above shows, your post was actually sent quoted-printable. Still, odds are pretty good that things will come through for you when actually done in UTF-8: ≠ ± (unless I have a bug and whatever makes MT-NW fail affects Thunderbird as well). -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <w-GdncQPnqcsng7OnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60364 |
On 2014.06.06, 11:52 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> Not sure about: =E2=89=A0 =C2=B1 which show on the screen when = >> typing... >> >> Yep. They're okay reading too. > > Maybe not. As the above shows, your post was actually sent quoted-printable. On TB, Unison and Google Groups those character show correctly: TB http://tinyurl.com/n3zfatg U http://tinyurl.com/octy8cs GG http://tinyurl.com/pgvjcbw -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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