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  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-06-04 01:17 -0400
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 19:00 +1200
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:52 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Philip Shaw <jnufcvyvuc@tznvy.pbz> - 2014-06-10 04:03 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 16:06 +1200
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-06-10 10:35 -0500
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-10 16:06 -0400
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-06-10 15:47 -0500
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:38 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:22 +1200
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-10 22:57 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 13:18 +1200
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 16:24 -0700
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 16:28 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-06-10 18:54 -0600
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 20:40 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 13:17 +1200
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:52 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:20 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-11 12:23 +1200
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:50 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 08:58 -0700
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-04 15:09 -0400
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 20:14 +0000
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:26 -0700
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:53 +1200
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:05 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 05:19 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 18:13 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-06 09:25 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-05 17:06 -0700
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-06 13:03 +1200

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#60105 — Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10)

In article <030620141846385164%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> > plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> 
> The current version is much different ... Mav-ricks or Mav-er-icks or
> Ma-ver-icks.  ;-)


Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow? It's always been (to me at
least) Ten-eight, ten-nine, etc.

I could never see the point in the animals, or the current nomenclature
for that matter. Which came first- lion or panther? I think Snow
Leopard was later but I have no idea what the number was.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#60115

In article <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
wrote:

> In article <030620141846385164%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> > > plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> > 
> > The current version is much different ... Mav-ricks or Mav-er-icks or
> > Ma-ver-icks.  ;-)
> 
> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow? It's always been (to me at
> least) Ten-eight, ten-nine, etc.
> 
> I could never see the point in the animals, or the current nomenclature
> for that matter. Which came first- lion or panther? I think Snow
> Leopard was later but I have no idea what the number was.

Exactly. The names are a pointless and useless marketing gimmick that
mean nothing to anyone. Using them is one of the sillier decisions made
by Apple.

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#60134

On 2014-06-04, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <030620141846385164%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
>> > > plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
>> > 
>> > The current version is much different ... Mav-ricks or Mav-er-icks or
>> > Ma-ver-icks.  ;-)
>> 
>> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow? It's always been (to me at
>> least) Ten-eight, ten-nine, etc.
>> 
>> I could never see the point in the animals, or the current nomenclature
>> for that matter. Which came first- lion or panther? I think Snow
>> Leopard was later but I have no idea what the number was.
>
> Exactly. The names are a pointless and useless marketing gimmick that
> mean nothing to anyone. Using them is one of the sillier decisions made
> by Apple.

Please. It's quite common to use code names for software projects before
release, which is where these names came from to begin with. Sometimes
those names are made public after release - sometimes not.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#60660

On 2014-06-04, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <030620141846385164%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course,
>> > > but plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
>> > 
>> > The current version is much different ... Mav-ricks or
>> > Mav-er-icks or Ma-ver-icks.  ;-)
>> 
>> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow? It's always been (to me at
>> least) Ten-eight, ten-nine, etc.
>> 
>> I could never see the point in the animals, or the current
>> nomenclature for that matter. Which came first- lion or panther? I
>> think Snow Leopard was later but I have no idea what the number
>> was.
>
> Exactly. The names are a pointless and useless marketing gimmick
> that mean nothing to anyone. Using them is one of the sillier
> decisions made by Apple.

The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
to give more junk results if you search by version number. 

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#60661

In article <53968393$0$11097$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Philip Shaw
<jnufcvyvuc@tznvy.pbz> wrote:
> On 2014-06-04, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> > wrote:
> >> In article <030620141846385164%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> >> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course,
> >> > > but plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> >> > 
> >> > The current version is much different ... Mav-ricks or
> >> > Mav-er-icks or Ma-ver-icks.  ;-)
> >> 
> >> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow? It's always been (to me at
> >> least) Ten-eight, ten-nine, etc.
> >> 
> >> I could never see the point in the animals, or the current
> >> nomenclature for that matter. Which came first- lion or panther? I
> >> think Snow Leopard was later but I have no idea what the number
> >> was.
> >
> > Exactly. The names are a pointless and useless marketing gimmick
> > that mean nothing to anyone. Using them is one of the sillier
> > decisions made by Apple.
> 
> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> to give more junk results if you search by version number. 

They shouldn't do if the search engine is used properly with quote
marks enclosing the phrase, "mac os x 10.9".

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#60671

On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:

[in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]

> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> to give more junk results if you search by version number.

Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along 
witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating 
system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#60710

In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
 TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> 
> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> 
> > The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> > to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> 
> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along 
> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating 
> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....

But it's right there in the Subject line! :)

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#60724

On 2014-06-10 20:06:15 +0000, Barry Margolin said:

> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
>> 
>> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
>> 
>>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
>>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
>> 
>> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
>> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
>> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
> 
> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)

Of course it is, but I'd have to look there to be sure of the version 
number I'm running. But I have no problem remembering that I'm running 
Mavericks, and am anxiously awaiting Yosemite!

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#60738

In article <bvp975FjilbU1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
<taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-10 20:06:15 +0000, Barry Margolin said:
> 
> > In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> >> 
> >> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> >> 
> >>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> >>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> >> 
> >> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
> >> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
> >> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
> > 
> > But it's right there in the Subject line! :)
> 
> Of course it is, but I'd have to look there to be sure of the version 
> number I'm running. But I have no problem remembering that I'm running 
> Mavericks, and am anxiously awaiting Yosemite!

And did "Moggie" come before or after "Sylvester"??? Yep, few people
could tell you, but anyone can tell you that 10.7 comes after 10.5.

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#60736

In article <barmar-3544E1.16061510062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> > 
> > [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> > 
> > > The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> > > to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> > 
> > Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along 
> > witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating 
> > system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
> 
> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)

Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
   iOS 8
   Mac OS 10.10

Nice, simple, easy to understand.

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#60746

In article <110620140922160382%YourName@YourISP.com>,
Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
>   iOS 8
>   Mac OS 10.10

They dropped "Mac" several years ago.


Patty

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#60753

In article <53978d71$0$52761$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
<patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> In article <110620140922160382%YourName@YourISP.com>,
> Your Name  <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >
> >Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
> >   iOS 8
> >   Mac OS 10.10
> 
> They dropped "Mac" several years ago.

True, but "Mac OS" is better than "OS X" ... unless Apple starts
licensing / selling OS X for non-Mac devices (i.e. boxes from Dell,
etc.).

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#60747

On 2014-06-10 21:22:16 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:

> In article <barmar-3544E1.16061510062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
>> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
>>> 
>>> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
>>> 
>>>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
>>>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
>>> 
>>> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
>>> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
>>> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
>> 
>> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)
> 
> Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
>    iOS 8
>    Mac OS 10.10
> 
> Nice, simple, easy to understand.

...and then there will be OSIX 11.0

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#60748

On 2014-06-10 23:24:24 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

> On 2014-06-10 21:22:16 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:
> 
>> In article <barmar-3544E1.16061510062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
>>>> 
>>>> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
>>>> 
>>>>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
>>>>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
>>>> 
>>>> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
>>>> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
>>>> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
>>> 
>>> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)
>> 
>> Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
>>    iOS 8
>>    Mac OS 10.10
>> 
>> Nice, simple, easy to understand.
> 
> ...and then there will be OSIX 11.0

Ooops! I meant OSXI 11.0.
Sheesh!

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#60751

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> Ooops! I meant OSXI 11.0.

Code name: Spinal Tap. 

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#60761

On 2014-06-11 00:54:53 +0000, nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) said:

> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ooops! I meant OSXI 11.0.
> 
> Code name: Spinal Tap.

Perfect!

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#60752

In article <2014061016280540150-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-10 23:24:24 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
> said:
> > On 2014-06-10 21:22:16 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:
> >> In article <barmar-3544E1.16061510062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >>> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> >>>> 
> >>>> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> >>>> 
> >>>>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> >>>>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
> >>>> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
> >>>> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
> >>> 
> >>> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)
> >> 
> >> Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
> >>    iOS 8
> >>    Mac OS 10.10
> >> 
> >> Nice, simple, easy to understand.
> > 
> > ...and then there will be OSIX 11.0
> 
> Ooops! I meant OSXI 11.0.
> Sheesh!

Nope, you were just telling the truth that Mac OS 9 is much better and
Apple should go back to it.  ;-)

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#60757

In message <2014061016242419956-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-10 21:22:16 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:

>> In article <barmar-3544E1.16061510062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
>>>> 
>>>> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
>>>> 
>>>>> The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
>>>>> to give more junk results if you search by version number.
>>>> 
>>>> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
>>>> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating
>>>> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
>>> 
>>> But it's right there in the Subject line! :)
>> 
>> Apple should also drop the pointless "X" as well.
>>    iOS 8
>>    Mac OS 10.10

Apple named the new OS "X", the previous OS was "Mac OS"

> ...and then there will be OSIX 11.0

No there won't. The next version will be OS X 10.10 and the one after
that will be OS X 10.11

-- 
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."

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#60734

In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
<taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> 
> [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> 
> > The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> > to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> 
> Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along 
> witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating 
> system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....

Most users could tell you by name either ... and they certainly
wouldn't be able to tell you which was a newer version by the silly
name. Using numbers is the ONLY way that  makes any remote sense, which
is why anyone with any sense still includes the numbers. It's even
sillier since Aple uses number for iOS and idiotic meaningless names
for Mac OS X.   :-\

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#60750

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <bvomufFflj8U1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
> <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-06-10 04:03:31 +0000, Philip Shaw said:
> > 
> > [in regards to giving the Mac OS a name such as Yosemite]
> > 
> > > The names make searching for informaiton easier - search engines tend
> > > to give more junk results if you search by version number.
> > 
> > Names are far easier to remember than numbers. I, and I assume along
> > witih many others, could not tell you whether the latest operating 
> > system is 10.8 or 10.9 or .....
> 
> Most users could tell you by name either ... and they certainly
> wouldn't be able to tell you which was a newer version by the silly
> name. Using numbers is the ONLY way that  makes any remote sense, which
> is why anyone with any sense still includes the numbers. It's even
> sillier since Aple uses number for iOS and idiotic meaningless names
> for Mac OS X.   :-\

I generally try to refer to both the name and number at least once in
anything I write about a particular OS X version, unless it is obvious
from context (e.g. in a discussion forum specific to that OS X version).

At one point I was mostly using the number in general contexts, but some
people asked me to mention the name, because they remembered the name in
association with a particular feature or issue, rather than remembering
the number (particularly if it was a version they hadn't used).

I tend to think the same way, at least for Jaguar (10.2) and later where
the name was used publically and I've seen or read enough about it. I
keep failing to remember which order the names were for 10.0 and 10.1,
so if I need to know, I look them up. Cheetah, Puma.

What baffles me is how Apple is almost exclusively referring to OS X
versions by name in their public descriptions, App Store listings,
upgrade notifications, etc., with the version number being buried in a
corner somewhere if it is shown at all, but "About This Mac" (and the
more detailed System Information in recent systems) only shows the
version number, not the name.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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