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| Started by | billy@MIX.COM |
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| First post | 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000 |
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Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:12 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 04:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 17:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 07:21 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:26 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:04 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 23:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:26 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-11 09:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:38 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 08:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 09:00 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:47 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:09 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:22 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 14:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:45 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 21:57 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:43 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 23:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 04:55 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 13:07 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:23 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 23:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:48 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 15:00 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:40 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-06 18:04 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 09:20 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:30 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:52 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-07 10:46 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-07 10:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:15 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-06 19:30 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:04 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:55 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:28 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 15:58 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 16:49 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-06-18 22:40 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:25 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:13 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:02 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 01:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 18:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:42 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-07 12:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:49 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 09:18 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 18:56 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 21:16 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:12 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 09:08 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 00:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:42 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 05:36 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 04:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:39 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:30 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:18 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:44 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:47 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:20 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:17 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:32 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:56 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-16 16:31 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-17 19:00 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-18 06:57 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-09 08:48 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 11:20 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 22:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:32 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:02 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:17 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-11 02:01 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 01:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 07:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 17:41 -0400
Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:17 +0000
Re: Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-16 14:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 04:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:43 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 14:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:35 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:22 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:37 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:58 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:16 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:54 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:40 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:24 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:10 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 18:01 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:08 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:31 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:45 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:35 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:00 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 21:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 08:51 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 00:00 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 09:49 +1000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:38 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-15 14:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 04:23 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 23:36 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:42 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:30 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 14:57 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 17:40 -0500
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:41 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:34 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 19:15 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:40 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 23:18 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-13 21:06 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:50 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 19:06 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-14 17:39 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:57 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:08 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 16:48 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 16:55 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:03 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 07:53 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:10 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:44 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:48 -0700
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 18:55 +0100
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:43 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0200
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:11 +0000
Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:50 +0200
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-066BFA.11040610062014@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60617 |
In article <ln4r31$i3m$1@dont-email.me>, Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > I think a better *free* client could go a long > way towards bringing people back. This is an interesting point. Not sure about the long but an easy to use and attractive client would go some of the way. -- dorayme
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln7dto$2gl$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60650 |
For your reference, records indicate that dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > In article <ln4r31$i3m$1@dont-email.me>, > Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote: > > > I think a better *free* client could go a long > > way towards bringing people back. > > This is an interesting point. Not sure about the long but an easy to > use and attractive client would go some of the way. My thinking on this is quite straightforward: most people don’t know or even *care* what the protocol is behind their favorite apps. All they know is that it gives them a social experience that they want and supports features they need (e.g., the ability to ignore idiots). A modern Usenet client can give them that. That would be (part of) my long-term aim. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-F664C7.00430507062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60378 |
In article <Hc2dnQMg3_N6tQ_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.05, 22:13 , Lewis wrote: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > hoist(self,petard); > > Doh! > > Thanks for proving the general point, however, Lewis: > > Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) > there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. > > Of course that is plain BS. > > While TB and others are not perfect, they do the job fine for most people. > > He should develop it on his own and then market it as donation or > license ware. That's the best way to see if he's "right". My personal opinion is that all the newsreaders I've tried in Mavericks are shit. Tried 'em all, and each had something that was a deal breaker. Toth was about the best of them (prolly because it was so much like MT - but Toth isn't available anymore.) I downgraded back to Mt. Lion for this reason. I haven't seen the post you refer to... the one where we're being told "there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era". -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <27idnQ1KcuV3Yw_OnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60401 |
On 2014.06.07, 00:43 , FPP wrote: > In article <Hc2dnQMg3_N6tQ_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> On 2014.06.05, 22:13 , Lewis wrote: >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> hoist(self,petard); >> >> Doh! >> >> Thanks for proving the general point, however, Lewis: >> >> Mr. Doc wants everyone to fund his new reader because (according to him) >> there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era. >> >> Of course that is plain BS. >> >> While TB and others are not perfect, they do the job fine for most people. >> >> He should develop it on his own and then market it as donation or >> license ware. That's the best way to see if he's "right". > > My personal opinion is that all the newsreaders I've tried in Mavericks > are shit. Tried 'em all, and each had something that was a deal breaker. > > Toth was about the best of them (prolly because it was so much like MT - > but Toth isn't available anymore.) > > I downgraded back to Mt. Lion for this reason. > > I haven't seen the post you refer to... the one where we're being told > "there is nothing for Mac in the Mavericks era". Follow the link in the first post. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <070620140636421569%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #60401 |
In article <fredp151-F664C7.00430507062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > My personal opinion is that all the newsreaders I've tried in Mavericks > are shit. Tried 'em all, and each had something that was a deal breaker. > > Toth was about the best of them (prolly because it was so much like MT - > but Toth isn't available anymore.) > > I downgraded back to Mt. Lion for this reason. Is usenet *that* important to you?
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60422 |
In article <070620140636421569%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <fredp151-F664C7.00430507062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My personal opinion is that all the newsreaders I've tried in Mavericks > > are shit. Tried 'em all, and each had something that was a deal breaker. > > > > Toth was about the best of them (prolly because it was so much like MT - > > but Toth isn't available anymore.) > > > > I downgraded back to Mt. Lion for this reason. > > Is usenet *that* important to you? More important than life itself... ;-) In reality, more important than what Mavericks was delivering, anyway. I still run Mavericks on a second (actually, sixth) drive. What was new in Mavericks just wasn't compelling... in fact, I didn't see much change, and what I did see annoyed me. I really hated that they removed the ability to double-click a folder and have it open in a new window. (It used to be a preference, but now it involves a key combination). It's really minor for most people - but I spend 4-5 hours a day in work on my machine, and another couple out of work. My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows XP and Windows 7. I even keep a G3 laptop when I need to run a classic app like Fontographer. -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <070620142202098942%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #60442 |
In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows > XP and Windows 7. I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior version, nor any other OS.
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmxn8a.13mr6wz19s1j26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #60459 |
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows > > XP and Windows 7. > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > version, nor any other OS. I count four apps just in my Dock that no longer work past OS X 10.6.8... -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <080620141803152745%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #60460 |
In article <1lmxn8a.13mr6wz19s1j26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows > > > XP and Windows 7. > > > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > > version, nor any other OS. > > I count four apps just in my Dock that no longer work past OS X > 10.6.8... There are applications I use that only run under Mac OS 9. :-) (Even excluding old games.)
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-4DDA41.08123908062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60462 |
In article <080620141803152745%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <1lmxn8a.13mr6wz19s1j26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows > > > > XP and Windows 7. > > > > > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > > > version, nor any other OS. > > > > I count four apps just in my Dock that no longer work past OS X > > 10.6.8... > > There are applications I use that only run under Mac OS 9. :-) > (Even excluding old games.) About once every year and a half I need to modify a font, or tweak my handwriting font - and I have to fire up my OS9 iBook. I have to boot into "classic" to run Fontographer. At $400 bucks for a newer version... I'll suffer with my G3 laptop. -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bvj4g6Faf9nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60476 |
In article <fredp151-4DDA41.08123908062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <080620141803152745%YourName@YourISP.com>, > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > > In article <1lmxn8a.13mr6wz19s1j26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie > > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > > > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > > > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, > > > > > Windows > > > > > XP and Windows 7. > > > > > > > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > > > > version, nor any other OS. > > > > > > I count four apps just in my Dock that no longer work past OS X > > > 10.6.8... > > > > There are applications I use that only run under Mac OS 9. :-) > > (Even excluding old games.) > > About once every year and a half I need to modify a font, or tweak my > handwriting font - and I have to fire up my OS9 iBook. > > I have to boot into "classic" to run Fontographer. At $400 bucks for a > newer version... I'll suffer with my G3 laptop. Can't you use Sheepshaver? -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-914DAD.09032108062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60477 |
In article <bvj4g6Faf9nU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > Can't you use Sheepshaver? The line in the description "However, you still need a copy of Mac OS and a PowerMac ROM image to use this program. " always put me off. Maybe at home... but for the number of times I need it, it's just easier to boot up the laptop. As far a actual WORK "work" goes, procedural guidelines dictate what and how we do everything. All installs on our work machines have to be done by IT guys. Windows IT guys, at that. Ponder that thought... -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bvj6frFaf9nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60478 |
In article <fredp151-914DAD.09032108062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > n article <bvj4g6Faf9nU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> > wrote: > > > Can't you use Sheepshaver? > > The line in the description "However, you still need a copy of Mac OS > and a PowerMac ROM image to use this program. " always put me off. Those can be legally obtained, if that's what you are talking about... The ROM came with OS9 upgrade. -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <090620141347151386%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #60476 |
In article <fredp151-4DDA41.08123908062014@news.eternal-september.org>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <080620141803152745%YourName@YourISP.com>, > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > In article <1lmxn8a.13mr6wz19s1j26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie > > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > > > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > > > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, > > > > > Windows XP and Windows 7. > > > > > > > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > > > > version, nor any other OS. > > > > > > I count four apps just in my Dock that no longer work past OS X > > > 10.6.8... > > > > There are applications I use that only run under Mac OS 9. :-) > > (Even excluding old games.) > > About once every year and a half I need to modify a font, or tweak my > handwriting font - and I have to fire up my OS9 iBook. > > I have to boot into "classic" to run Fontographer. At $400 bucks for a > newer version... I'll suffer with my G3 laptop. I have to start up Classic / reboot to use my old versions of Illustrator, FileMaker Pro, Microsoft Office, and a Photoshop-clone. They are used at least a few times a week, if not daily. My old versions of Eudora and InDesign work in both OS 9 and OS X.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-D1A92D.08054908062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60459 |
In article <070620142202098942%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <fredp151-1BBBA1.23401907062014@news.eternal-september.org>, > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My home system is a Mac Pro Tower, and depending on what I'm doing, I > > run almost everything; Snow Leopard, Lion, Mt. Lion, Mavericks, Windows > > XP and Windows 7. > > I run Mavericks for everything, and have no need to run any prior > version, nor any other OS. Printing/Graphics work, so gotta keep up with the OS upgrades... We receive all kinds of files from all kinds of customers. Sometimes we need an older version of an application in order to maintain compatibility. Older apps don't always render things correctly when running on a newer OS, and vice versa. Since we convert our Mac files for use with our Windows Packaging apps, it's gotta be a perfect match. At home, it's pretty much Mt. Lion for 98% of the non-work stuff I do. What pisses me off is that I'd been working the kinks out of Mavericks, and was ready to make the switch. I had even settled on Thoth for my newsreader... and then the developer pulled the rug out from under his software. I liked the Thoth trial, but waited a little too long to register my software. Now I can't. I snoozed. I loozed. -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln2f15$bni$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60475 |
For your reference, records indicate that FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > I had even settled on Thoth for my > newsreader... and then the developer pulled the rug out from under his > software. > > I liked the Thoth trial, but waited a little too long to register my > software. Now I can't. > > I snoozed. I loozed. This is really, really why I wanted a non-commercial approach for Signal. When software is developed with the intent of recouping costs, it too easily languishes or disappears while waiting to break even. I see the appeal of crowdfunding to reverse that, so long as people understand the fundamental difference (and risks) in a “pay it forward” approach. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fredp151-2D1F9A.00441607062014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #60378 |
In article <Hc2dnQMg3_N6tQ_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > He should develop it on his own and then market it as donation or > license ware. That's the best way to see if he's "right". And just why the hell should *he* do what you'd like him to do? You make it sound like he's being a dick, when in reality... -- Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Twain
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <27idnQxKcuVzYg_OnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60402 |
On 2014.06.07, 00:44 , FPP wrote: > In article <Hc2dnQMg3_N6tQ_OnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> He should develop it on his own and then market it as donation or >> license ware. That's the best way to see if he's "right". > > And just why the hell should *he* do what you'd like him to do? He can do as he likes. However, the usual crowdfunding on indiegogo at the amounts he's trying to raise is when the developer needs to purchase material and/or tooling for the product he's trying to develop. > > You make it sound like he's being a dick, when in reality... No dick. Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards. The case is that there is no pure-of-heart usenet client for Mac and that the Mac community is clamoring for such. If that is the case then he shouldn't fear toiling now and tolling later. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Darrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ln00g4$pe7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #60414 |
For your reference, records indicate that Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he > could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards. Exactly the opposite. I *am* realistic in thinking that it would be a waste of my time to put long hours into polishing up an app on the mere *hope* that charging $10 (or $30 like Unison) would have people lining up to start using Usenet again. My thinking remains quite clear and straightforward: 1. Most Mac users want Mac software 2. Most everyone wants software that costs them nothing 3. OS updates completely killing apps is bad for everyone Given all that, the most fair thing to do is what I have done. It isn’t clear to me why you’ve decided to take such umbrage. > The case is that there is no pure-of-heart usenet client for Mac and > that the Mac community is clamoring for such. If that is the case then > he shouldn't fear toiling now and tolling later. There is considerable desire, yes, but the real question is whether or not the economics of that “need” match the real costs of software development. I’ve laid out what I think is a generous and workable way forward. I’m not sure why you think there is more money in a commercial venture, nor am I sure how much more you think there is. 10x? 100x? No matter. If you *truly* believe there is a profit to be had by making a commercial Usenet client, contact me directly and we can go a whole different way with this. All you have to do is pony up the dough. I will, of course, readjust my bill rate upwards to reflect market pricing. -- dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Ds2dnV-nq5448QnOnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #60457 |
On 2014.06.07, 17:33 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Just not realistic in development demand for a thing that he
>> could market as payware/shareware/donation ware afterwards.
>
> Exactly the opposite. I *am* realistic in thinking that it would be a
> waste of my time to put long hours into polishing up an app on the mere
> *hope* that charging $10 (or $30 like Unison) would have people lining up
> to start using Usenet again. My thinking remains quite clear and
> straightforward:
"To start using usenet again"
Are you real?
1. Usenet use has not stopped.
2. Usenet use has gone down.
3. Usenet use will not go up because of an app whether it is tailored to
absolute Mac compliance and perfection or not.
> 1. Most Mac users want Mac software
TB is Mac s/w
Unison is Mac s/w
etc.
Is it pure as the driven snow Mac s/w? No.
But it doesn't matter.
> 2. Most everyone wants software that costs them nothing
> 3. OS updates completely killing apps is bad for everyone
Apps worth making are apps worth maintaining until they're not.
>
> Given all that, the most fair thing to do is what I have done. It isn’t
> clear to me why you’ve decided to take such umbrage.
Again
- your claim that usenet has left the Mac in your funding call
(Reality: there are several usenet clients)
- your character bombs to make a point
(Still waiting on that one)
- your exaggerated goal of $20K.
(You want all upside for you with all risk on pledgers)
>
>> The case is that there is no pure-of-heart usenet client for Mac and
>> that the Mac community is clamoring for such. If that is the case then
>> he shouldn't fear toiling now and tolling later.
>
> There is considerable desire, yes, but the real question is whether or not
> the economics of that “need” match the real costs of software development.
> I’ve laid out what I think is a generous and workable way forward. I’m
> not sure why you think there is more money in a commercial venture, nor am
> I sure how much more you think there is. 10x? 100x?
In the end it's your choice. I don't recall who said if you really
think something should be done in s/w, then just do it and worry about
making money later.
You could also crowd source the development and reduce your time risk.
(small crowd to be sure).
> No matter. If you *truly* believe there is a profit to be had by making a
> commercial Usenet client, contact me directly and we can go a whole
> different way with this. All you have to do is pony up the dough. I
> will, of course, readjust my bill rate upwards to reflect market pricing.
Bluster. Quaint.
--
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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