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  Command line: canse insensitive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 19:18 -0400
    Re: Command line: canse insensitive Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 00:40 +0000
    Re: Command line: canse insensitive Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-05 21:20 -0400
      Re: Command line: canse insensitive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:35 -0400
      Re: Command line: canse insensitive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 05:38 +0000
        Re: Command line: canse insensitive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 13:54 +0000
          Re: Command line: canse insensitive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 19:32 +0000
        Re: Command line: canse insensitive Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 16:54 +0000
          Re: Command line: canse insensitive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-06 13:01 -0400
            Re: Command line: canse insensitive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 19:33 +0000
    Re: Command line: canse insensitive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:23 +0000

#60299 — Command line: canse insensitive

Been reading on on making the command line case insensitive.
Mr Google points me to a file called .inputrc which should contain:
	set completion-ignore-case On

However, on Snow Leopard (10.6.9 for those who don't track names :-),
inputrc exists neither in the user's login, nor in /etc

Anyhow, I found that the "bind" command can make a dynamic change. And
it seems to work (by default,  "bind -V" reveals it is set to "off"

velo:~ $  bind "set completion-ignore-case On"

velo:~ $  bind -V
...
completion-ignore-case is set to `on'
...

yet:

velo:~ $  cd /Volumes/DMA2/Apps_dev/crtc/2014-76-may15/

velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.html
ls: */*.html: No such file or directory

velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.HTML

(listing of all the .HTML files)


So, obviously, in my ever so slightly different universe, things don't
work as expected. Any hints on what to look for ?

Also, in which file should the set completion-ignore-case On be put in
for Snow Leopard ? Or can I just add the bind version in .bashrc ?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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#60303

On 2014-06-05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Been reading on on making the command line case insensitive.
> Mr Google points me to a file called .inputrc which should contain:
> 	set completion-ignore-case On
>
> However, on Snow Leopard (10.6.9 for those who don't track names :-),
> inputrc exists neither in the user's login, nor in /etc
>
> Anyhow, I found that the "bind" command can make a dynamic change. And
> it seems to work (by default,  "bind -V" reveals it is set to "off"
>
> velo:~ $  bind "set completion-ignore-case On"
>
> velo:~ $  bind -V
> ...
> completion-ignore-case is set to `on'
> ...
>
> yet:
>
> velo:~ $  cd /Volumes/DMA2/Apps_dev/crtc/2014-76-may15/
>
> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.html
> ls: */*.html: No such file or directory
>
> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.HTML
>
> (listing of all the .HTML files)
>
>
> So, obviously, in my ever so slightly different universe, things don't
> work as expected. Any hints on what to look for ?
>
> Also, in which file should the set completion-ignore-case On be put in
> for Snow Leopard ? Or can I just add the bind version in .bashrc ?
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
I have:
~/.inputrc

which contains:
set completion-ignore-case On

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#60305

In article <5390fabd$0$22380$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Been reading on on making the command line case insensitive.
> Mr Google points me to a file called .inputrc which should contain:
> 	set completion-ignore-case On
> 
> However, on Snow Leopard (10.6.9 for those who don't track names :-),
> inputrc exists neither in the user's login, nor in /etc

If it doesn't exist, you create it.

> 
> Anyhow, I found that the "bind" command can make a dynamic change. And
> it seems to work (by default,  "bind -V" reveals it is set to "off"
> 
> velo:~ $  bind "set completion-ignore-case On"
> 
> velo:~ $  bind -V
> ...
> completion-ignore-case is set to `on'
> ...
> 
> yet:
> 
> velo:~ $  cd /Volumes/DMA2/Apps_dev/crtc/2014-76-may15/
> 
> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.html
> ls: */*.html: No such file or directory
> 
> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.HTML
> 
> (listing of all the .HTML files)
> 
> 
> So, obviously, in my ever so slightly different universe, things don't
> work as expected. Any hints on what to look for ?

Completion and wildcard expansion are unrelated.  Completion is what 
happens when you start typing a filename, then type TAB to have it 
automatically finished.

To make wildcard expansion case-insensitive, put:

shopt -s nocaseglob

in your .bashrc

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#60315

On 14-06-05 21:20, Barry Margolin wrote:

> To make wildcard expansion case-insensitive, put:
> 
> shopt -s nocaseglob
> 
> in your .bashrc



Many thanks ! That did the trick !  Learn something new every day !

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#60327

In message <barmar-22B10F.21202805062014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> To make wildcard expansion case-insensitive, put:

> shopt -s nocaseglob

I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.

-- 
showing snuffy is when Sesame Street jumped the shark

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#60347

On 2014-06-06, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <barmar-22B10F.21202805062014@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> To make wildcard expansion case-insensitive, put:
>
>> shopt -s nocaseglob
>
> I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.

I'd try it out and see, but I have no interest in it.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#60393

In message <bvdvg8F8gltU4@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-06, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <barmar-22B10F.21202805062014@news.eternal-september.org> 
>>   Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> To make wildcard expansion case-insensitive, put:
>>
>>> shopt -s nocaseglob
>>
>> I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.

> I'd try it out and see, but I have no interest in it.

I do like having case insensitive completion, but I never remember to
enable it. I suppose I should add .inputrc to the list of files that
sync between my accounts.

Something about case insensitive globbing scares me though.

-- 
Q: What's the difference between a civil engineer and a military engineer?
A: A military engineer designs weapons, and a civil engineer designs targets.

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#60371

For your reference, records indicate that 
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.

Probably because it could lead to dangerous outcomes, kind of like putting
 in your search path.  It’d also be far better to process files based on
their type rather than their extension.

(And, yes, I’m deliberately putting . at the start of a line up there to
test something out.  :-)

-- 
dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ

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#60373

> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>> I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.


If you are in a case insensitive file system, in what way would allowing
wildcarding to also be case insensitive cause problems ?

Granted, if you have case sensitive volumes, and your bash is set to be
case insensitive, this could cause problem since specifying *.hTMl would
get you both chocolate.hTmL and chocolate.html instead of only .hTmL

However, on a system that is all case insensitive, NOT making bash case
insensitive causes far more problems. I'd like to know why Apple did not
make it default to have bash case insensitive.

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#60383

In message <5391f3ff$0$46383$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>>> I seem to recall being told this is not a good idea, but I can't remember why.

> If you are in a case insensitive file system, in what way would allowing
> wildcarding to also be case insensitive cause problems ?

Like I said, I can't remember.

> Granted, if you have case sensitive volumes, and your bash is set to be
> case insensitive, this could cause problem since specifying *.hTMl would
> get you both chocolate.hTmL and chocolate.html instead of only .hTmL

> However, on a system that is all case insensitive, NOT making bash case
> insensitive causes far more problems. I'd like to know why Apple did not
> make it default to have bash case insensitive.

That is a good point.


-- 
'A man like that could inspire a handful of broken men to conquer a
country.' 'Fine. Just so long as he does it on his day off.'

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#60312

In message <5390fabd$0$22380$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Been reading on on making the command line case insensitive.
> Mr Google points me to a file called .inputrc which should contain:
> 	set completion-ignore-case On

> However, on Snow Leopard (10.6.9 for those who don't track names :-),
> inputrc exists neither in the user's login, nor in /etc

Why would you expect it to already exist?

> Anyhow, I found that the "bind" command can make a dynamic change. And
> it seems to work (by default,  "bind -V" reveals it is set to "off"

Are you incapable of following simple instructions?

> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.html
> ls: */*.html: No such file or directory

> velo:2014-76-may15 $  ls */*.HTML

Yes? And? This has nothing at all to do with completion.

> So, obviously, in my ever so slightly different universe, things don't
> work as expected. Any hints on what to look for ?

A clue? A primer on reading comprehension?

> Also, in which file should the set completion-ignore-case On be put in
> for Snow Leopard ? Or can I just add the bind version in .bashrc ?

Where you already given those instructions?

> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

See above.

-- 
When the stars threw down their spears And watered heaven with their
tears, Did He smile his work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?

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