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| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| First post | 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200 |
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Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 06:53 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 14:11 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-21 17:14 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-05-23 23:13 -0500
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-21 16:54 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 22:53 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-05-21 19:16 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:26 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 18:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:55 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:30 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-22 09:25 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:19 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-22 14:23 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 17:50 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:47 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-22 15:22 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-22 08:57 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Happynet Steering Society <bo@ChOMp.ru.ca.us.fr> - 2014-05-23 09:30 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:47 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:14 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 10:27 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 11:05 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-05-22 08:52 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:32 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-23 15:53 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:19 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 16:26 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-22 11:32 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-26 17:53 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 18:14 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 07:55 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 15:15 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:36 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 19:17 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:13 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 15:40 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 21:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:24 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:12 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:28 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 23:25 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:43 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-30 08:51 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:46 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-27 22:26 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:20 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-28 16:18 +0100
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 10:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-31 07:41 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:31 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 18:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-27 15:59 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 21:14 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:40 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Smackdown Sally <smackdown@fuck.all.of.you.too.eh> - 2014-05-28 12:42 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 09:59 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 02:34 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 07:43 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 03:14 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 17:22 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-31 15:06 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:29 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-31 20:18 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 18:38 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:40 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:22 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:04 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-05-31 23:42 +0100
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:25 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:38 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-27 17:22 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-05-30 23:48 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 00:53 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 11:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_sidndG4W_zraRTOnZ2dnUVZ_rIAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #59780 |
On 2014.05.27, 22:38 , Lewis wrote:
> In message <dfmanno-D9F5DE.17311727052014@news.albasani.net>
> D.F. Manno <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:
>> In article <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net>,
>> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>
>>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting
>>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an
>>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter
>>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his
>>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-)
>
>> Do be so kind as to identify the company in question, so that those
>> inclined can boycott it the way you boycott workers whose politics you
>> disagree with.
>
> Troglodyte, Incorporated.
That's pretty insulting to all those good Troglodyte run businesses.
It's really:
"Mom's Basement inc.
Travis Bickle, Fantasy CEO".
--
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) |
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| Date | 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmfk7i.hcnlf41lyeuacN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de> |
| In reply to | #59581 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new > numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other > browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius > of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like > nibble ballet dancers by comparison. > > I don't run it. which browser would you recommend instead? -- Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ georg.schwarz@freenet.de +49 176 91313874
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmhb0x.15qmuz13qhpftN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #59834 |
Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > > Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new > > numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other > > browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius > > of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like > > nibble ballet dancers by comparison. > > > > I don't run it. > > which browser would you recommend instead? I used to like Camino - used it for years before it became outdated, and I was eventually locked into Firefox with it's addons and less crappy way of working than Opera or Chrome. I wish Camino would live again, as the more Mac-like FF, only this time supporting addons, and merely being a skin for FF. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 17:22 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmbeu6.aix9y19a2l32N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #59575 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Accepted the "suggestion" to upgrade to 29.0.1 which was to be just a > security update. Didn't realise I was at 28 and that this was far more > than a security update. Spent a few hours undoing the UI changes, > installing the "classic theme restorer" extension and then within it, > having to play with settings. > > The one thing I was not able to undo: grabbing anywhere in the top bars > (not just the title bar) causes the window to move. Fairly annoying. > > (on my machine, a slight move of a window causing it to overlap into the > adjoining screen causes major performance degradation). > > > Is it normal that applications can designate areas inside the window as > grabbable for purpose of moving window ? I thought this was limited to > the title bar. > > Or is this a case of Firefox creating a huge title bar, and faking a > real one inside (it can be removed, and in fact is removed by default). I hated the new UI, but have adapted after much swearing and putting things back to normal Mac UI standards, as best I can. I don't know why Firefox is trying to be Chrome. If I wanted Chrome I'd use Chrome. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) |
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| Date | 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmfk1t.182q9mentkl1cN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de> |
| In reply to | #59575 |
I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better option for you. -- Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ georg.schwarz@freenet.de +49 176 91313874
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmhb0m.16hyes728l075N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #59833 |
Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better > option for you. ESR? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2014-05-30 23:48 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmhgm6.1qss0491y27rgaN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #59846 |
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > > > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better > > option for you. > > ESR? Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24. Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to surprise with new features. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmifpl.1hfpyv6za72eN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #59848 |
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > > > > > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better > > > option for you. > > > > ESR? > > Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24. > > Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no > new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for > users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to > surprise with new features. Ah, yeah I wish I'd gone that route (assuming addons are maintained for it?), but up until the lastest version I... wasn't unhappy. I wasn't thrilled either, but then again I've always found Firefox to be functional before, if a bit of a dog's breakfast. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 00:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <busnfrFjtd7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59848 |
On 2014-05-30, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > >> Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: >> >> > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better >> > option for you. >> >> ESR? > > Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24. > > Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no > new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for > users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to > surprise with new features. Cool - I didn't realize Mozilla was doing this. Reminds me of what RedHat does with their enterprise product. I appreciate the effort. Thanks for mentioning it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1lmivm0.8vz19310fpmd1N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #59860 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-30, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > > >> Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > >> > >> > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better > >> > option for you. > >> > >> ESR? > > > > Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24. > > > > Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no > > new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for > > users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to > > surprise with new features. > > Cool - I didn't realize Mozilla was doing this. Reminds me of what > RedHat does with their enterprise product. I appreciate the effort. > Thanks for mentioning it. Anyone know what the addon support is like for the ESR? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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