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Firefox 29 UI comment

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2014-05-21 05:19 -0400
Last post2014-05-31 18:06 +1200
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  Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400
    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 06:53 -0700
    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 14:11 +0000
      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-05-23 23:13 -0500
      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-21 16:54 -0400
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 22:53 +0000
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-05-21 19:16 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:26 -0700
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 18:30 -0700
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:55 -0700
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:30 -0400
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-22 09:25 -0700
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:19 -0700
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-22 14:23 -0700
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 17:50 -0700
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:47 -0400
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-22 15:22 +0000
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-22 08:57 -0700
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Happynet Steering Society <bo@ChOMp.ru.ca.us.fr> - 2014-05-23 09:30 -0400
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:47 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:14 -0700
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 10:27 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 11:05 -0400
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-05-22 08:52 -0700
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:32 -0400
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-23 15:53 -0400
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:19 +0000
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 16:26 -0400
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-22 11:32 -0400
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-26 17:53 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-26 18:31 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 18:14 -0700
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 07:55 -0400
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:21 -0700
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 15:15 -0400
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:36 +0000
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 19:17 -0400
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:13 -0700
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 15:40 +1200
                        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 21:30 -0700
                        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:25 -0400
                          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:24 -0400
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:12 -0700
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:28 -0400
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 23:25 -0700
                        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:43 +1200
                          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-30 08:51 -0400
                            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:46 -0700
                            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-27 22:26 -0700
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:20 -0700
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-28 16:18 +0100
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 10:30 -0700
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-31 07:41 -0700
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:31 -0400
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 18:25 -0400
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-27 15:59 -0700
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 21:14 -0400
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:40 +0000
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Smackdown Sally <smackdown@fuck.all.of.you.too.eh> - 2014-05-28 12:42 -0400
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
              Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 09:59 -0400
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 02:34 +1200
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 07:43 -0700
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 03:14 +1200
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 17:22 -0400
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-31 15:06 -0700
                        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:29 -0400
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-31 20:18 -0400
                        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 18:38 +1200
                      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:40 -0400
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:22 -0400
                Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:04 +0000
                  Re: Firefox 29 UI comment John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-05-31 23:42 +0100
                    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:25 +0200
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:38 +0000
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:25 -0400
      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-27 17:22 +1200
    Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
      Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
        Re: Firefox 29 UI comment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-05-30 23:48 +1200
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
          Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 00:53 +0000
            Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200

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#59877

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-05-31 11:25 -0400
Message-ID<_sidndG4W_zraRTOnZ2dnUVZ_rIAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#59780
On 2014.05.27, 22:38 , Lewis wrote:
> In message <dfmanno-D9F5DE.17311727052014@news.albasani.net>
>    D.F. Manno <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:
>> In article <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net>,
>>   Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>
>>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting
>>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an
>>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter
>>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his
>>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-)
>
>> Do be so kind as to identify the company in question, so that those
>> inclined can boycott it the way you boycott workers whose politics you
>> disagree with.
>
> Troglodyte, Incorporated.

That's pretty insulting to all those good Troglodyte run businesses.

It's really:
       "Mom's Basement inc.
        Travis Bickle, Fantasy CEO".

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#59834

Fromgeorg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz)
Date2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Message-ID<1lmfk7i.hcnlf41lyeuacN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de>
In reply to#59581
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new
> numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other
> browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius
> of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like
> nibble ballet dancers by comparison.
> 
> I don't run it.

which browser would you recommend instead?

-- 
Georg Schwarz    http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
 georg.schwarz@freenet.de  +49 176 91313874

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#59847

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Message-ID<1lmhb0x.15qmuz13qhpftN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#59834
Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:

> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new
> > numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other
> > browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius
> > of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like
> > nibble ballet dancers by comparison.
> > 
> > I don't run it.
> 
> which browser would you recommend instead?

I used to like Camino - used it for years before it became outdated, and
I was eventually locked into Firefox with it's addons and less crappy
way of working than Opera or Chrome. I wish Camino would live again, as
the more Mac-like FF, only this time supporting addons, and merely being
a skin for FF.
-- 
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#59736

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-05-27 17:22 +1200
Message-ID<1lmbeu6.aix9y19a2l32N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#59575
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Accepted the "suggestion" to upgrade to 29.0.1 which was to be just a
> security update. Didn't realise I was at 28 and that this was far more
> than a security update. Spent a few hours undoing the UI changes,
> installing the "classic theme restorer" extension and then within it,
> having to play with settings.
> 
> The one thing I was not able to undo:  grabbing anywhere in the top bars
> (not just the title bar) causes the window to move. Fairly annoying.
> 
> (on my machine, a slight move of a window causing it to overlap into the
> adjoining screen causes major performance degradation).
> 
> 
> Is it normal that applications can designate areas inside the window as
> grabbable for purpose of moving window ? I thought this was limited to
> the title bar.
> 
> Or is this  a case of Firefox creating a huge title bar, and faking a
> real one inside (it can be removed, and in fact is removed by default).

I hated the new UI, but have adapted after much swearing and putting
things back to normal Mac UI standards, as best I can. I don't know why
Firefox is trying to be Chrome. If I wanted Chrome I'd use Chrome.
-- 
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#59833

Fromgeorg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz)
Date2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Message-ID<1lmfk1t.182q9mentkl1cN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de>
In reply to#59575
I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
option for you.

-- 
Georg Schwarz    http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
 georg.schwarz@freenet.de  +49 176 91313874

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#59846

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Message-ID<1lmhb0m.16hyes728l075N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#59833
Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:

> I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
> option for you.

ESR?
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#59848

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2014-05-30 23:48 +1200
Message-ID<1lmhgm6.1qss0491y27rgaN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#59846
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:
> 
> > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
> > option for you.
> 
> ESR?

Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24.

Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no
new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for
users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to
surprise with new features.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#59859

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
Message-ID<1lmifpl.1hfpyv6za72eN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#59848
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> 
> > Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
> > > option for you.
> > 
> > ESR?
> 
> Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24.
> 
> Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no
> new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for
> users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to
> surprise with new features.

Ah, yeah I wish I'd gone that route (assuming addons are maintained for
it?), but up until the lastest version I... wasn't unhappy. I wasn't
thrilled either, but then again I've always found Firefox to be
functional before, if a bit of a dog's breakfast.

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#59860

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-31 00:53 +0000
Message-ID<busnfrFjtd7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#59848
On 2014-05-30, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>
>> Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:
>> 
>> > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
>> > option for you.
>> 
>> ESR?
>
> Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24.
>
> Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no
> new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for
> users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to
> surprise with new features.

Cool - I didn't realize Mozilla was doing this. Reminds me of what
RedHat does with their enterprise product.  I appreciate the effort.
Thanks for mentioning it.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#59861

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-05-31 18:06 +1200
Message-ID<1lmivm0.8vz19310fpmd1N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#59860
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-05-30, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >
> >> Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I recommend you have a look at Firefox ESR. Maybe that's the better
> >> > option for you.
> >> 
> >> ESR?
> >
> > Extended Support Release. Previously version 17, currently version 24.
> >
> > Basically a version that they maintain with bug/security fixes but no
> > new features, in parallel with the latest version. It is intended for
> > users like corporates who want a well tested version that isn't going to
> > surprise with new features.
> 
> Cool - I didn't realize Mozilla was doing this. Reminds me of what
> RedHat does with their enterprise product.  I appreciate the effort.
> Thanks for mentioning it.

Anyone know what the addon support is like for the ESR?
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