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  'Tails' OS and the Mac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-04-29 14:54 -0400
    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 16:57 -0400
    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 09:24 +1200
      Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 20:35 -0400
        Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 13:54 +1200
          Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-29 22:11 -0400
            Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-30 16:12 +1200
        Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-30 14:06 +0000
          Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-15 10:39 +0000
            Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-05-16 11:32 -0400
      Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-02 17:44 +0000
    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 21:24 +0000
    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 16:24 -0400
      Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-04-30 17:07 -0400
        Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 17:57 -0400
          Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-30 18:09 -0400
            Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-05-02 13:02 -0400
              Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-03 11:59 +1200
                Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 09:36 -0400
                  Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-04 10:18 +1200
                    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 18:57 -0400
                    Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 07:58 -0400
                      Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-05 08:56 +1200
          Re: 'Tails' OS and the Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-30 18:15 -0400

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#59012 — 'Tails' OS and the Mac

I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone 
here can opine:

I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using 
encryption, Tor, and no local storage:

Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to 
Evade the NSA
<http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>

There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any 
experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual 
machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

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#59014

In article <ljosgu$lr2$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
wrote:

> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone 
> here can opine:
> 
> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using 
> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
> 
> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to 
> Evade the NSA
> <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
> 
> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any 
> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual 
> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

Well, it seems well-documented:

https://tails.boum.org/

You could try it out. Tor isn't your best friend in the world, by the 
way.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#59017

In article <ljosgu$lr2$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
wrote:
> 
> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone 
> here can opine:
> 
> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using 
> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
> 
> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to 
> Evade the NSA <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
> 
> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any 
> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual 
> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

You can't be anonymous on the Internet - it's a physical impossiblity,
no matter what many companies like proxy servers try to tell you.
Anyone worried about it is either a looney tin-foil hat wearer or is
doing something that SHOULD be discovered.

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#59022

In article <300420140924023522%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> You can't be anonymous on the Internet - it's a physical impossiblity,
> no matter what many companies like proxy servers try to tell you.
> Anyone worried about it is either a looney tin-foil hat wearer or is
> doing something that SHOULD be discovered.

Yeah yeah. And Adam and Eve lived among the dinosaurs ...
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#59026

In article <53604540$0$64250$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <300420140924023522%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> > You can't be anonymous on the Internet - it's a physical impossiblity,
> > no matter what many companies like proxy servers try to tell you.
> > Anyone worried about it is either a looney tin-foil hat wearer or is
> > doing something that SHOULD be discovered.
> 
> Yeah yeah. And Adam and Eve lived among the dinosaurs ...

Nope. Adma and Eve are just figments of some con artist's imagination
written into a fantasy novel to start another silly religion so they
could steal other people's money and possesions.

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#59027

On 14-04-29 21:54, Your Name wrote:

> Nope. Adma and Eve are just figments of some con artist's imagination
> written into a fantasy novel to start another silly religion so they
> could steal other people's money and possesions.

You got it all wrong. Space aliens came to visit earth. Husband in space
ship find his wife (Eve) cheating with anothert crew member (Adam) and
ejects them from space ship and leaves them on Earth to survive alone.

The horny couple end up mating with chimps and gave them the missing
link which caused them to start talking. (If you want proof, there have
been a few documentaries about talking chimps that rule the world).
Evolution then gave us the current species of lawyers and politicians
who descended directly from those talking apes.

They only put that story in old testament so they could get film rights
for Charlston Heston who felt very strongly that every american should
be armed to the hilt to combat those talking apes (seems he was
traumatized by that experience).

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#59030

In article <53605bd8$0$47869$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-29 21:54, Your Name wrote:
> > 
> > Nope. Adma and Eve are just figments of some con artist's imagination
> > written into a fantasy novel to start another silly religion so they
> > could steal other people's money and possesions.
> 
> You got it all wrong. Space aliens came to visit earth. Husband in space
> ship find his wife (Eve) cheating with anothert crew member (Adam) and
> ejects them from space ship and leaves them on Earth to survive alone.
> 
> The horny couple end up mating with chimps and gave them the missing
> link which caused them to start talking. (If you want proof, there have
> been a few documentaries about talking chimps that rule the world).
> Evolution then gave us the current species of lawyers and politicians
> who descended directly from those talking apes.

Lawyers and politicians are descended directly from pond scum, but
haven't actually evolved any further.




> They only put that story in old testament so they could get film rights
> for Charlston Heston who felt very strongly that every american should
> be armed to the hilt to combat those talking apes (seems he was
> traumatized by that experience).

That's because he had his brain whipped to a mush during the chariot
race.

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#59041

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> writes, quoting
"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>:

> > You can't be anonymous on the Internet - it's a physical impossiblity,
> > no matter what many companies like proxy servers try to tell you.
> > Anyone worried about it is either a looney tin-foil hat wearer or is
> > doing something that SHOULD be discovered.
> 
> Yeah yeah. And Adam and Eve lived among the dinosaurs ...

The guy's a complete idiot.  Tails worked well for Ed Snowden,
just as TrueCrypt withstood a year of the American FBI beating
on it.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59356

From this month's Crypto-Gram -

  Nice article on the Tails stateless operating system.  I use it.
  Initially I would boot my regular computer with Tails on a USB stick,
  but I went out and bought a remaindered computer from Best Buy for
  $250 and now use that.

  http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/
  https://tails.boum.org/
  https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/air_gaps.html

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#59384

On 5/15/14, 6:39 a, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>  From this month's Crypto-Gram -
>
>    Nice article on the Tails stateless operating system.  I use it.
>    Initially I would boot my regular computer with Tails on a USB stick,
>    but I went out and bought a remaindered computer from Best Buy for
>    $250 and now use that.
>
>    http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/
>    https://tails.boum.org/
>    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/air_gaps.html

Thanks for the info, Billy. Much appreciated.

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#59107

In message <300420140924023522%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <ljosgu$lr2$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone 
>> here can opine:
>> 
>> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using 
>> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>> 
>> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to 
>> Evade the NSA <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>> 
>> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any 
>> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual 
>> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

> You can't be anonymous on the Internet - it's a physical impossiblity,

You are completely 100% wrong.

-- 
When treading water in a circle of sharks, a wizard will always consider
other wizards to be the most immediate danger. --The Last Continent

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#59018

On 2014-04-29, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone
> here can opine:
>
> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using
> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>
> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to
> Evade the NSA
><http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>
> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any
> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual
> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

You can install Tails on a virtual machine on a Mac but be advised that
anonymity and security will depend on where you visit and how you interact
with those sites.

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#59048

On 2014.04.29, 14:54 , Fred Moore wrote:
> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone
> here can opine:
>
> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using
> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>
> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to
> Evade the NSA
> <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>
> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any
> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual
> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.

That may defeat the purpose - at least with Fusion - since it uses the 
Mac's ethernet services to access the network and web.  I had the same 
thought and I found some blog entries claiming that running Tails in a 
VM would be self defeating.  At least for anonymity.  You could run it 
there to learn about it.  I haven't but it's in my curiosity queue.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59057

On 4/30/14, 4:24 p, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.29, 14:54 , Fred Moore wrote:
>> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone
>> here can opine:
>>
>> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using
>> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>>
>> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to
>> Evade the NSA
>> <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>>
>> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any
>> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual
>> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.
>
> That may defeat the purpose - at least with Fusion - since it uses the
> Mac's ethernet services to access the network and web.  I had the same
> thought and I found some blog entries claiming that running Tails in a
> VM would be self defeating.  At least for anonymity.  You could run it
> there to learn about it.  I haven't but it's in my curiosity queue.

Thanks, Alan. That's the kind of info I was looking for but didn't 
really know enough about the topic to Google for an answer. I had a 
suspicion that somehow somewhere something from the Tails VM would get 
written to a Mac cache, var file, or whatever, thus defeating the 
purpose of the entire effort. So I suppose a dedicated piece of hardware 
is really what's necessary.

I noticed on Macintouch today that a new version of Tor is available, 
with a Mac variant. Exactly how much benefit is there in running that on 
a Mac without an underlying OS such as Tails? What sort of identifiers 
get left behind to track you? Thanks.

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#59059

On 2014.04.30, 17:07 , Fred Moore wrote:
> On 4/30/14, 4:24 p, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2014.04.29, 14:54 , Fred Moore wrote:
>>> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone
>>> here can opine:
>>>
>>> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS using
>>> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>>>
>>> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to
>>> Evade the NSA
>>> <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>>>
>>> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any
>>> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual
>>> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.
>>
>> That may defeat the purpose - at least with Fusion - since it uses the
>> Mac's ethernet services to access the network and web.  I had the same
>> thought and I found some blog entries claiming that running Tails in a
>> VM would be self defeating.  At least for anonymity.  You could run it
>> there to learn about it.  I haven't but it's in my curiosity queue.
>
> Thanks, Alan. That's the kind of info I was looking for but didn't
> really know enough about the topic to Google for an answer. I had a
> suspicion that somehow somewhere something from the Tails VM would get
> written to a Mac cache, var file, or whatever, thus defeating the
> purpose of the entire effort. So I suppose a dedicated piece of hardware
> is really what's necessary.
>
> I noticed on Macintouch today that a new version of Tor is available,
> with a Mac variant. Exactly how much benefit is there in running that on
> a Mac without an underlying OS such as Tails? What sort of identifiers
> get left behind to track you? Thanks.

Tor does not need you to be too careful about what you do.  You're onion 
wrapped and tossed computer to computer to computer with encryption 
layers between each, each hiding IP addresses a layer away in each 
direction and then erasing all info after each session (servers and 
within your client).  Tracing you would be extremely difficult and 
require international cooperation of incredible complexity.  Tor is more 
for the home or office user who doesn't care what is on his system - he 
just doesn't want an intercept to occur in the middle.

Tails is more about leaving no trace on the computer you're using.  If 
your computer is seized, nothing will have been written to disk (caches, 
history, files, etc.).   In the end you are not possessing compromising 
material.  Not even encrypted material that might get "the authorities" 
to ask what's in that encrypted file.  This is why some journalists use 
tails.  They can write their story and send it (encrypted) and there is 
no copy or version of it on the machine they have in possession. 
Anything intercepted is very well encrypted and not likely to be decoded 
other than by rubber hose.  Put it in a VM and you can't tell what may 
be recorded on the host OS side.

I tried Tor sometime last year and found it to be very slow to load 
whatever page I was interested in.  I don't think that's the 
application's fault but a consequence of the chain of intermediary 
computers/networks (onion layers) in the chain.

I'm trying Tor as I write this, latest v. and yep, it's not nimble nor 
quick.  But it does seem faster than last time I tried it.

Loaded cbc.ca
        le figaro (French newspaper)
        gmail - forced to authenticate using a 6 digit number sent
                by text message to my phone.

Performance is not too bad.  But I recall in the past sessions where it 
was slower or varying.  I'll try it more over the next while for the 
hell of it.  Tails is something for another day.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59061

On 2014.04.30, 17:57 , Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.30, 17:07 , Fred Moore wrote:
>> On 4/30/14, 4:24 p, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2014.04.29, 14:54 , Fred Moore wrote:
>>>> I posted this on Macintouch and got no response, but perhaps someone
>>>> here can opine:
>>>>
>>>> I recently read an article from Wired about Tails, a *Nix-based OS
>>>> using
>>>> encryption, Tor, and no local storage:
>>>>
>>>> Out in the Open: Inside the Operating System Edward Snowden Used to
>>>> Evade the NSA
>>>> <http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/>
>>>>
>>>> There is a download link for Tails in the article. Anyone here have any
>>>> experience with it? I wonder if you could install Tails in a virtual
>>>> machine on a Mac and achieve anonymity and security that way.
>>>
>>> That may defeat the purpose - at least with Fusion - since it uses the
>>> Mac's ethernet services to access the network and web.  I had the same
>>> thought and I found some blog entries claiming that running Tails in a
>>> VM would be self defeating.  At least for anonymity.  You could run it
>>> there to learn about it.  I haven't but it's in my curiosity queue.
>>
>> Thanks, Alan. That's the kind of info I was looking for but didn't
>> really know enough about the topic to Google for an answer. I had a
>> suspicion that somehow somewhere something from the Tails VM would get
>> written to a Mac cache, var file, or whatever, thus defeating the
>> purpose of the entire effort. So I suppose a dedicated piece of hardware
>> is really what's necessary.
>>
>> I noticed on Macintouch today that a new version of Tor is available,
>> with a Mac variant. Exactly how much benefit is there in running that on
>> a Mac without an underlying OS such as Tails? What sort of identifiers
>> get left behind to track you? Thanks.
>
> Tor does not need you to be too careful about what you do.  You're onion
> wrapped and tossed computer to computer to computer with encryption
> layers between each, each hiding IP addresses a layer away in each
> direction and then erasing all info after each session (servers and
> within your client).  Tracing you would be extremely difficult and
> require international cooperation of incredible complexity.  Tor is more
> for the home or office user who doesn't care what is on his system - he
> just doesn't want an intercept to occur in the middle.
>
> Tails is more about leaving no trace on the computer you're using.

And, (I forgot to mention,) it forces you through Tor in any case.

If
> your computer is seized, nothing will have been written to disk (caches,
> history, files, etc.).   In the end you are not possessing compromising
> material.  Not even encrypted material that might get "the authorities"
> to ask what's in that encrypted file.  This is why some journalists use
> tails.  They can write their story and send it (encrypted) and there is
> no copy or version of it on the machine they have in possession.
> Anything intercepted is very well encrypted and not likely to be decoded
> other than by rubber hose.  Put it in a VM and you can't tell what may
> be recorded on the host OS side.
>
> I tried Tor sometime last year and found it to be very slow to load
> whatever page I was interested in.  I don't think that's the
> application's fault but a consequence of the chain of intermediary
> computers/networks (onion layers) in the chain.
>
> I'm trying Tor as I write this, latest v. and yep, it's not nimble nor
> quick.  But it does seem faster than last time I tried it.
>
> Loaded cbc.ca
>         le figaro (French newspaper)
>         gmail - forced to authenticate using a 6 digit number sent
>                 by text message to my phone.
>
> Performance is not too bad.  But I recall in the past sessions where it
> was slower or varying.  I'll try it more over the next while for the
> hell of it.  Tails is something for another day.
>
>


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#59091

Here is another possible privacy weapon from the EFF, Privacy Badger. 
Obviously much more limited in scope than Tails or Tor.

EFF “Privacy Badger” plugin aimed at forcing websites to stop tracking users
<http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/eff-privacy-badger-plugin-aimed-at-forcing-websites-to-stop-tracking-users/>

Still in alpha and no Safari version unfortunately. The article also 
mentions the HTTPS Everywhere extension which might be useful, but again 
no Safari version.

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#59118

In article <lk0j2t$ms5$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
wrote:
> 
> Here is another possible privacy weapon from the EFF, Privacy Badger. 
> Obviously much more limited in scope than Tails or Tor.
> 
> EFF ìPrivacy Badgerî plugin aimed at forcing websites to stop tracking users
>
> <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/eff-privacy-badger-plug
> in-aimed-at-forcing-websites-to-stop-tracking-users/>
> 
> Still in alpha and no Safari version unfortunately. The article also 
> mentions the HTTPS Everywhere extension which might be useful, but again 
> no Safari version.

Even *if* that actually worked, you're still "tracked" by numerous
other methods, including your ISP connection.

Anyone who believes they're anonymous when using the Internet is an
idiot.

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#59121

In article <030520141159364300%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Even *if* that actually worked, you're still "tracked" by numerous
> other methods, including your ISP connection.
> 
> Anyone who believes they're anonymous when using the Internet is an
> idiot.

We're talking about _serious_ anonymity here, not just posting to Usenet 
or sending stuff through remailers. It's not even very hard to be 
totally anonymous, just takes some time and some money.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#59135

In article <5364f0e6$0$51580$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <030520141159364300%YourName@YourISP.com>,
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Even *if* that actually worked, you're still "tracked" by numerous
> > other methods, including your ISP connection.
> > 
> > Anyone who believes they're anonymous when using the Internet is an
> > idiot.
> 
> We're talking about _serious_ anonymity here, not just posting to Usenet 
> or sending stuff through remailers. It's not even very hard to be 
> totally anonymous, just takes some time and some money.

If you're logged on to the Internet, then your ISP knows who and where
you are, or an Internet cafe has you on camera ... the exception of
course is if you steal someone else's account, but you're still not
truly anonymous.

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