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  Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:13 -0800
    Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-17 14:43 +0000
    Re: Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:57 -0800
    Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-01-17 10:15 -0600
      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 11:43 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:29 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:15 -0700
            Re: Downloding Mavericks super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-18 04:55 -0600
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 09:37 +1300
              Re: Downloding Mavericks J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-18 15:45 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:45 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 13:30 +1300
          Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 06:05 -0800
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-12 11:22 +1000
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 10:18 -0400
              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 13:55 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 14:50 -0400
                  Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 15:13 -0400
                    Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-12 20:47 +0000
                      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 17:11 -0400
                        Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-12 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:27 +0000
                      Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 08:21 +0200
                  Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:26 +0000
                    Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 09:44 +0200
                      Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 21:32 +0000
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 11:59 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:31 -0700
              Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-18 08:54 +1100
              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:27 +0000
            Re: Downloding Mavericks "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:26 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:29 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:23 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-19 17:19 +0000
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:07 +1300
      Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-18 09:41 +1300
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 19:02 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:12 -0700
            Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2014-01-18 00:14 +0000
              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:55 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-01-18 09:19 -0800
                  Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:32 -0800
                    Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
                      Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:22 -0800
                        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:53 -0500
                          Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:33 -0800
                            Re: Downloding Mavericks Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 13:09 -0800
                              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:00 -0800
                                  Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                                    Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                                      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                                        Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:44 -0800
                                          Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
                                            Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 06:44 -0800
                                              Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:49 -0500
                                            Re: Downloding Mavericks David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-21 10:44 -0500
                                              Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 08:50 -0800
                                                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 17:16 +0000
                                                Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:15 +1300
                                  Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 02:03 +0000
                            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                              Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:02 -0800
                                Re: Downloding Mavericks Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-20 17:24 -0500
                                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                                  Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:50 -0800
                                    Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                    Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-19 08:03 +1100
                  Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 -0500

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#58498

In article <lic8o9$d0f$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
wrote:

> > the brackets are part of the rfc for the url format. if they don't
> > work, then the software is broken. 
> 
> My newsreader (tin) doesn't handle them. I have to copy and paste.

then it's broken. 

when i've used trn, it works properly. 

> It's 
> worse when a long URL is in a quoted area. I have to remove a ">" and a 
> few spaces from the copied text to fix the URL.

quoted urls often get split with line breaks and quote marks (>) on
each line. that's a different issue. 

> > complain to the author to fix it or use non-broken software.
> 
> It's unlikely to ever be fixed in a terminal-based newsreader, but I 
> like tin well enough to put up with it.

works fine in trn, including spanning across multiple lines.

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#58499

In article <120420141711034237%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <lic8o9$d0f$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> > > the brackets are part of the rfc for the url format. if they don't
> > > work, then the software is broken. 
> > 
> > My newsreader (tin) doesn't handle them. I have to copy and paste.
> 
> then it's broken. 
> 
> when i've used trn, it works properly. 
> 
> > It's 
> > worse when a long URL is in a quoted area. I have to remove a ">" and a 
> > few spaces from the copied text to fix the URL.
> 
> quoted urls often get split with line breaks and quote marks (>) on
> each line. that's a different issue. 

Thoth seems to do it OK too, even when a URL has both line breaks and
quote marks.

-- 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill "Cannot possibly
attend first night, will attend second...  if there is one." - Winston
Churchill, in response.

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#58506

On 2014-04-12, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> the brackets are part of the rfc for the url format. if they don't
>> work, then the software is broken. 
>
> My newsreader (tin) doesn't handle them. I have to copy and paste. It's 
> worse when a long URL is in a quoted area. I have to remove a ">" and a 
> few spaces from the copied text to fix the URL.

Same for slrn in Terminal. I haven't tried other terminal emulators
though.
  
>> complain to the author to fix it or use non-broken software.
>
> It's unlikely to ever be fixed in a terminal-based newsreader, but I 
> like tin well enough to put up with it.

Same. No biggie, really.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#58509

On 2014-04-12, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> the brackets are part of the rfc for the url format. if they don't
>> work, then the software is broken. 
>
> My newsreader (tin) doesn't handle them. I have to copy and paste. It's 
> worse when a long URL is in a quoted area. I have to remove a ">" and a 
> few spaces from the copied text to fix the URL.

I used to use a CLI based reader which had trouble there.  Safari was
quite good at stripping out the line endings, but of course still had
trouble with ">" in quoted text.

>> complain to the author to fix it or use non-broken software.
>
> It's unlikely to ever be fixed in a terminal-based newsreader, but I 
> like tin well enough to put up with it.

slrn does a good job here.  Where the original post has broken the line
*and* doesn't have "<" ">" you still need copy and paste for everything
after line 1.

-- 
Paul Sture

The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name                                  -- @gojomo

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#58505

On 2014-04-12, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <120420141355360651%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <53494b26$0$61351$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
>> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > Apparently my Apple computer with Intel dual quad core does not
>> > > qualify for Mavericks.
>> > 
>> > <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-
>> > 10-9-mavericks-usb-install-drive/>
>> > 
>> > <http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older
>> > _mac_pro_11_21_20062007/>
>> > 
>> > (Those are all long one-line URLs; I'm not in the mood for tinyURLing 
>> > stuff this early saturday morn finishing off last night's wine; hell, 
>> > I'ma senior citizen now, do what-tae-fook I want)
>> 
>> no need to tinyurl them. 
>> 
>> the angle brackets delimit the url making it clickable (in the original
>> post), even though they span multiple lines. that's what the angle
>> brackets are for.
>
> They (brackets) don't always work for everyone. I don't have a problem 
> with them.

They don't seem to work properly with slrn in Terminal; but I'm used to
it - no biggie.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#58512

On 2014-04-13, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-04-12, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <120420141355360651%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <53494b26$0$61351$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
>>> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > > Apparently my Apple computer with Intel dual quad core does not
>>> > > qualify for Mavericks.
>>> > 
>>> > <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-
>>> > 10-9-mavericks-usb-install-drive/>
>>> > 
>>> > <http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older
>>> > _mac_pro_11_21_20062007/>
>>> > 
>>> > (Those are all long one-line URLs; I'm not in the mood for tinyURLing 
>>> > stuff this early saturday morn finishing off last night's wine; hell, 
>>> > I'ma senior citizen now, do what-tae-fook I want)
>>> 
>>> no need to tinyurl them. 
>>> 
>>> the angle brackets delimit the url making it clickable (in the original
>>> post), even though they span multiple lines. that's what the angle
>>> brackets are for.
>>
>> They (brackets) don't always work for everyone. I don't have a problem 
>> with them.
>
> They don't seem to work properly with slrn in Terminal; but I'm used to
> it - no biggie.

The nice thing about slrn here is that it puts what it thinks is the URL
on the bottom line and you can edit it before hitting return. Thus for
the above URLs it was simply a matter of using copy and paste to append
the second line to the display then hitting return.

-- 
Paul Sture

The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name                                  -- @gojomo

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#58538

On 2014-04-13, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-04-13, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-04-12, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <120420141355360651%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <53494b26$0$61351$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > > Apparently my Apple computer with Intel dual quad core does not
>>>> > > qualify for Mavericks.
>>>> > 
>>>> > <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-
>>>> > 10-9-mavericks-usb-install-drive/>
>>>> > 
>>>> > <http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older
>>>> > _mac_pro_11_21_20062007/>
>>>> > 
>>>> > (Those are all long one-line URLs; I'm not in the mood for tinyURLing 
>>>> > stuff this early saturday morn finishing off last night's wine; hell, 
>>>> > I'ma senior citizen now, do what-tae-fook I want)
>>>> 
>>>> no need to tinyurl them. 
>>>> 
>>>> the angle brackets delimit the url making it clickable (in the original
>>>> post), even though they span multiple lines. that's what the angle
>>>> brackets are for.
>>>
>>> They (brackets) don't always work for everyone. I don't have a problem 
>>> with them.
>>
>> They don't seem to work properly with slrn in Terminal; but I'm used to
>> it - no biggie.
>
> The nice thing about slrn here is that it puts what it thinks is the URL
> on the bottom line and you can edit it before hitting return. Thus for
> the above URLs it was simply a matter of using copy and paste to append
> the second line to the display then hitting return.

I also notice that right-clicking a URL in slrn in Terminal and choosing
Open URL fails in the same way. Also the highlighted URL omits the later
portion of the URL (the missing piece).

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#54803

In article <170120141143247264%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> an apple store, and download it there.

Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.

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#54809

In article <170120141159468654%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> > an apple store, and download it there.
> 
> Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.

bring a macbook to an apple store.

if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
sold are portable), you can bring a usb stick to the store, download it
there and then copy it to the stick. in fact, that's actually more
convenient than bringing a macbook.

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#54813

In article <170120141430459710%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> > > an apple store, and download it there.
> > 
> > Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.
> 
> bring a macbook to an apple store.
> 
> if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
> sold are portable), 

Considering that I already said that I don't have one, whether I'm in
the minority or not is irrelevant.

> you can bring a usb stick to the store, download it
> there and then copy it to the stick. in fact, that's actually more
> convenient than bringing a macbook.

Will they let you monopolize a display computer for that long?

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#54817

In article <170120141331097674%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <170120141430459710%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > > > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> > > > an apple store, and download it there.
> > > 
> > > Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.
> > 
> > bring a macbook to an apple store.
> > 
> > if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
> > sold are portable), 
> 
> Considering that I already said that I don't have one, whether I'm in
> the minority or not is irrelevant.


nospam has already made the same point, why repeat it? (Hint: look at 
his ()'s)

-- 
dorayme

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#54827

In article <170120141331097674%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> > > > an apple store, and download it there.
> > > 
> > > Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.
> > 
> > bring a macbook to an apple store.
> > 
> > if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
> > sold are portable), 
> 
> Considering that I already said that I don't have one, whether I'm in
> the minority or not is irrelevant.

it's very relevant, since apple caters to the masses, not to you
personally. 

however, i don't think you are in the minority of those who have slow
internet at home, so this shouldn't be an issue for you. 

even if it takes several hours, it's manageable, since you can let it
run overnight.

the problem is when someone has dialup (or slow dsl), where it might
take days and not hours *and* who doesn't have a laptop to take
somewhere where there is better connectivity. this group is very small
and getting smaller.

> > you can bring a usb stick to the store, download it
> > there and then copy it to the stick. in fact, that's actually more
> > convenient than bringing a macbook.
> 
> Will they let you monopolize a display computer for that long?

yes. obviously they'd prefer it if you brought your own but that's not
always possible.

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#54856

In message <170120141331097674%michelle@michelle.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <170120141430459710%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> > > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
>> > > an apple store, and download it there.
>> > 
>> > Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.
>> 
>> bring a macbook to an apple store.
>> 
>> if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
>> sold are portable), 

> Considering that I already said that I don't have one, whether I'm in
> the minority or not is irrelevant.

>> you can bring a usb stick to the store, download it
>> there and then copy it to the stick. in fact, that's actually more
>> convenient than bringing a macbook.

> Will they let you monopolize a display computer for that long?

Yes. It's not usually very long, and chances are good they have the 10.9
installer already on the machine, so you just copy it to your USB thumb
drive.

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#55087

In article <170120141430459710%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <170120141159468654%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > > you can always go somewhere where there is faster connectivity, such as
> > > an apple store, and download it there.
> > 
> > Those of us with desktop Macs might find that a bit difficult.
> 
> bring a macbook to an apple store.
> 
> if you don't have one (which is the minority, as roughly 80% of macs
> sold are portable), you can bring a usb stick to the store, download it
> there and then copy it to the stick. in fact, that's actually more
> convenient than bringing a macbook.

Or one could do what I used to do when I had a large file to download 
over dialup - start the download just before going to bed and let it run 
overnight.

-- 
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
GOP delenda est!

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#55090

In article <dfmanno-564DDF.16262420012014@news.albasani.net>, D.F.
Manno <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:

> Or one could do what I used to do when I had a large file to download 
> over dialup - start the download just before going to bed and let it run 
> overnight.

true, but for some people, multi-gigabyte files will take more than
overnight to download. it could take a day or two, sometimes longer.

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#54800

On 14-01-17 11:15, Tim McNamara wrote:

> IMHO Apple's download-only approach sucks.  Not all of their customers 
> have access to broadband with enough speed to make this sort of thing 
> reasonable. 

You're suppoosed to be a hipster who downloads Mavericks at high speed
wi-fi while sipping expensive coffee at a Starbucks :-) Or be a northern
californian who starts the download and then goes surfing so don't care
how long the dowload takes :-)

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#54968

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> You're suppoosed to be a hipster who downloads Mavericks at high speed
> wi-fi while sipping expensive coffee at a Starbucks :-)

Hipsters in Starbucks?

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#54986

In article <lbh1f4$it$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > You're suppoosed to be a hipster who downloads Mavericks at high speed
> > wi-fi while sipping expensive coffee at a Starbucks :-)
> 
> Hipsters in Starbucks?

Besides, Starbucks' wi-fi is too overcrowded with all those Windoze
users constantly downloading the needed daily "extra urgent must-have"
patches and anti-malware updates that keep their computer just about
hobbling along almost usably.

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#54814

In article <slrnldilpe.kup.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara
<timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 06:13:07 -0800 (PST), David Downing 
> <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm trying to get Mavericks from the Mac Apps store and I've gotten to 
> > the point where the DOwnload button says "Downloading," but there's no 
> > progress bar to show how far along it is. How long should I expect it 
> > to take and how will I know when it's done?
> 
> On my MacBook Pro with my CenturyLink SlowSL (1.5) downloading and 
> installing took about 10 hours total.  First is dwnloading Mavericks and 
> then all the application updates that follow.  Hopefully the new 
> Mavericks download is for 10.9.1 right off the bat, otherwise you will 
> have to update from 10.9.0 to 10.9.1.
> 
> IMHO Apple's download-only approach sucks.  Not all of their customers 
> have access to broadband with enough speed to make this sort of thing 
> reasonable.  Hell, the US is one of the worst of the developed countries 
> when it comes to broadband speed while providers charge some of the 
> highest prices.  We're Number One (at paying more for less).

Same here in New Zealand, plus most plans have silly data caps as well.
Then there are those of us still with dial-up connections (either by
neccessity of rural location or by "choice" of price).   :-(

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#54828

In article <180120140941223309%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> > IMHO Apple's download-only approach sucks.  Not all of their customers 
> > have access to broadband with enough speed to make this sort of thing 
> > reasonable.  Hell, the US is one of the worst of the developed countries 
> > when it comes to broadband speed while providers charge some of the 
> > highest prices.  We're Number One (at paying more for less).
> 
> Same here in New Zealand, plus most plans have silly data caps as well.
> Then there are those of us still with dial-up connections (either by
> neccessity of rural location or by "choice" of price).   :-(

not enough to matter, and you can go to where there is better
connectivity anyway.

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