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  Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-03-10 01:28 +0000
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-09 19:14 -0700
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-03-09 20:24 -0700
      Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-03-10 11:14 -0700
        Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-03-10 18:22 +0000
        Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:25 -0400
        Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-10 18:56 +0000
        Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-10 21:56 +0000
          Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-03-10 17:12 -0700
            Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-11 05:00 +0000
              Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-03-12 13:27 -0700
                Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-12 16:32 -0400
                  Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-03-13 09:06 -0700
                Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-13 07:06 -0700
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-10 03:52 +0000
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-10 04:06 +0000
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-10 15:33 +0000
      Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-03-10 17:50 +0000
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-10 17:04 -0400
    Re: Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-03-11 23:55 +0000

#57821 — Mavericks: Chrome & Youtube problem

Flash is up to date.

In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
functions on the black screen are clickable.

Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

-- 
Howard

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#57830

In article <1li9qoq.15nrdyckcti3gN%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

> Flash is up to date.
> 
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
> 
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Try another browser like Safari.  Chrome uses their own engine rather 
than WebKit, which is part of MacOS.  If it still doesn't display, try 
Firefox.  I have multiple anti-tracking and adware apps running on 
Chrome that sometimes prevent videos from playing.  I try a couple 
browsers to see if there's any difference. Usually Firefox can play it 
as it has no extra plugins.

If youtube isn't playing, then you have a bigger problem.

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#57832

In article <1li9qoq.15nrdyckcti3gN%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

> Flash is up to date.
> 
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
> 
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new 
JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in 
itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The 
JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me 
quite a bit.

The three forms look identical so only right-clicking says which it is.

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#57853

On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:

> Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
> JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
> itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
> JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
> quite a bit.

I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for 
a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via 
Flash.

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#57855

gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:
> 
> > Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
> > JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
> > itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
> > JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
> > quite a bit.
> 
> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for
> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via
> Flash.

I had heard a couple of years ago that Google would supply all vids in
html5.... seems not :(

-- 
Howard

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#57856

In article <2014031011145618303-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for 
> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via 
> Flash.

actually very few sites use flash (about 15% currently) and of those
that do, there is almost always an html5 version, particularly for
video.

that means that sites that are flash-only without any alternative are
fairly rare.

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#57858

On 2014-03-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:
>
>> Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
>> JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
>> itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
>> JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
>> quite a bit.
>
> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for 
> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via 
> Flash.

Certainly not Youtube and others - they use HTML5. Maybe a lot of porn
sites use Flash.  And some awefully designed web sites that are Flash
only (I usually just avoid those altogether).

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JR

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#57872

In message <2014031011145618303-xxx@yyyzzz> 
  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:

>> Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
>> JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
>> itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
>> JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
>> quite a bit.

> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for 
> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via 
> Flash.

It is true that many sites lie about requiring flash. I used to simply
change the user agent in Safari to say it was the iPad version of
safari, and then videos would load.

I don't do that anymore. I figure if the cunts are going to lie about
requiring flash, I don't care to load their sites.

There's never been a video on a web site that I *had* to see.

-- 
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#57876

On 2014-03-10 21:56:45 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2014031011145618303-xxx@yyyzzz>
>   gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:
> 
>>> Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
>>> JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
>>> itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
>>> JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
>>> quite a bit.
> 
>> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for
>> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via
>> Flash.
> 
> It is true that many sites lie about requiring flash.

I see.  I wouldn't have known the difference.  When I run into a site 
that tells me I need Flash, I assume it's true.

> I used to simply change the user agent in Safari to say it was the iPad 
> version of
> safari, and then videos would load.
> 
> I don't do that anymore. I figure if the cunts are going to lie about
> requiring flash, I don't care to load their sites.
> 
> There's never been a video on a web site that I *had* to see.

Extending that I guess I don't "have" to run a computer either...

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#57883

In message <2014031017120834186-xxx@yyyzzz> 
  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10 21:56:45 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <2014031011145618303-xxx@yyyzzz>
>>   gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-10 03:24:52 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie said:
>> 
>>>> Google is progressively moving from the Flash and Chrome player to a new
>>>> JavaScript player.  It's all very new so it's likely to have bugs in
>>>> itself and at the same time be revealing new bugs in browsers.  The
>>>> JavaScript version (I don't use Chrome or Flash) glitches up for me
>>>> quite a bit.
>> 
>>> I'm surprised anyone can get away without using Flash.  I tried to for
>>> a while, but it seems that the vast majority of video is presented via
>>> Flash.
>> 
>> It is true that many sites lie about requiring flash.

> I see.  I wouldn't have known the difference.  When I run into a site 
> that tells me I need Flash, I assume it's true.

If you enable the debug menu and Safari and change your user agent to the
iPad user agent you will find that the vast majority of those sites
claiming to require flash do not, they are simply too lazy to send the
x264 video to a computer. Perhaps they are getting kickbacks from Adobe.

>> I used to simply change the user agent in Safari to say it was the iPad 
>> version of
>> safari, and then videos would load.
>> 
>> I don't do that anymore. I figure if the cunts are going to lie about
>> requiring flash, I don't care to load their sites.
>> 
>> There's never been a video on a web site that I *had* to see.

> Extending that I guess I don't "have" to run a computer either...

I do, my job (such as it is) depends on it. Most of the things I do
actually do require a computer.

-- 
In the words of one of the founding Igors: 'We belong dead? Ecthcuthe
me? Where doeth it thay "we"?'

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#57914

On 2014-03-11 05:00:39 +0000, Lewis said:

> If you enable the debug menu and Safari and change your user agent to the
> iPad user agent you will find that the vast majority of those sites
> claiming to require flash do not, they are simply too lazy to send the
> x264 video to a computer. Perhaps they are getting kickbacks from Adobe.

I use Safari: Is there a way to force programs to play without using 
Flash as a generic default of some kind?

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#57915

In article <2014031213274542987-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> > If you enable the debug menu and Safari and change your user agent to the
> > iPad user agent you will find that the vast majority of those sites
> > claiming to require flash do not, they are simply too lazy to send the
> > x264 video to a computer. Perhaps they are getting kickbacks from Adobe.
> 
> I use Safari: Is there a way to force programs to play without using 
> Flash as a generic default of some kind?

read what he wrote. 

set the user agent to ipad and most sites will send non-flash content.

however, there are a few that will still send flash and generally,
those sites are not worth the bother.

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#57923

On 2014-03-12 20:32:57 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <2014031213274542987-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
>>> If you enable the debug menu and Safari and change your user agent to the
>>> iPad user agent you will find that the vast majority of those sites
>>> claiming to require flash do not, they are simply too lazy to send the
>>> x264 video to a computer. Perhaps they are getting kickbacks from Adobe.
>> 
>> I use Safari: Is there a way to force programs to play without using
>> Flash as a generic default of some kind?
> 
> read what he wrote.

I did of course; it sounded like a temporary and/or site-specific modification.

> set the user agent to ipad and most sites will send non-flash content.
> 
> however, there are a few that will still send flash and generally,
> those sites are not worth the bother.

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#57920

In article <2014031213274542987-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2014-03-11 05:00:39 +0000, Lewis said:
> 
> > If you enable the debug menu and Safari and change your user agent to the
> > iPad user agent you will find that the vast majority of those sites
> > claiming to require flash do not, they are simply too lazy to send the
> > x264 video to a computer. Perhaps they are getting kickbacks from Adobe.
> 
> I use Safari: Is there a way to force programs to play without using 
> Flash as a generic default of some kind?

If the video is a Flash video, AFAIK, then that's the only thing that 
will play it. It's proprietary but you can download the video and 
transcode it to something else.

So, no. If you don't have the Flash plug-in or player App, nothing else 
I know of will play the video.  You can prevent flash from playing 
altogether by installing ClickToFlash or ClickToPlugin

http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

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#57834

Howard <Howard.not@home.com> writes:

> Flash is up to date.
> 
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
> 
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 to see what your browser supports,
and acquire an html5 cookie by clicking on the "Request the HTML5 player"
button.

This may not work around the Youtube bugs mentioned downthread, but
for what little video I watch, it's been ok.

Billy Y..
-- 
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	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#57836

In message <1li9qoq.15nrdyckcti3gN%Howard.not@home.com> 
  Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> Flash is up to date.

> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play.

Chrome does not use the system-installed flash. If you run chrome, there
is absolutely no reason to install flash on your computer. ever.

That does mean that if chrome is using an older flash, you're stuck with
it.

> The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.

That happens a lot with youtube. I doubt it has anything to do with the
Flash version Chrome is using.

-- 
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just had to hope like Hell that the gods knew the rules, too.

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#57846

On 2014-03-10, Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> Flash is up to date.
>
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
>
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Links to some of the offending videos would be most helpful.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#57850

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-03-10, Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> > Flash is up to date.
> >
> > In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> > upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> > functions on the black screen are clickable.
> >
> > Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.
> 
> Links to some of the offending videos would be most helpful.

Tks Jolly ..... and to all others !

I am testing some solutions and getting informed about the Java 6 and 7
problem with Chrome ... so this might all fix it (it was virtually all
videos btw)

Back later guys.
-- 
Howard

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#57864

On 2014.03.09, 21:28 , Howard wrote:
> Flash is up to date.
>
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
>
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Same issue here.  When it happens I just use Safari instead for that 
video.  I don't like Safari much - but at least it plays videos most of 
the time.

-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#57904

Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:

> Flash is up to date.
> 
> In Chrome (fully up to date) some videos will just not play. The page
> upens fine and the black screen appears. But then nothing. None of the
> functions on the black screen are clickable.
> 
> Ideas anyone ? google doesn't seem to solve.

Guys ... I promised I would come back.

I have (I think) solved the problem and it was not flash problems as I
had expected.

The problem turned out to be the Extension "iTube Studio"

I disabled all of my extensions one by one and restarted them and bingo.

Thanks all of you for responding to my post(s)

-- 
Howard

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