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Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility

Started byMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
First post2014-03-01 09:15 -0700
Last post2014-03-03 16:21 +1300
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  Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 09:15 -0700
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-01 11:56 -0500
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-01 17:10 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 10:27 -0700
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-01 19:23 -0500
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 01:47 +0000
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-01 21:41 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 03:07 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 01:50 -0500
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 08:08 -0700
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:21 +0000
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:23 -0600
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:36 -0700
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:48 -0500
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:09 +0000
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:14 -0700
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:09 +0000
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:17 -0700
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-02 17:06 +1300
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:25 +0000
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:32 -0700
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:47 -0500
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:10 -0700
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:12 -0500
                          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:18 -0500
                            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:54 -0700
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 13:57 -0600
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:21 -0500
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:25 -0800
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:47 +0000
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:56 -0700
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 01:17 +0000
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 21:30 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:07 +0000
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:48 +0000
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 18:19 -0500
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:25 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:38 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:13 -0600
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:23 +0000
                    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:02 -0500
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:30 -0700
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:46 -0500
                          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:09 -0700
                            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 14:03 -0600
                            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:45 +0000
                            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:15 -0500
                              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 01:18 +0000
                              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 19:57 -0700
                                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-03 07:51 -0500
                                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 15:05 +0000
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:44 +0000
                          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:55 -0700
                      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 13:56 -0600
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 15:49 -0500
                        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:44 -0700
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:29 -0700
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 05:19 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0700
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-03-01 23:55 -0600
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:24 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0800
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-02 10:28 -0500
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:04 -0500
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:25 +0000
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:02 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:10 -0700
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:26 -0800
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 22:19 +0000
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:57 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:04 -0800
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:25 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-07 18:52 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-08 06:50 +0000
                  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-08 09:23 -0600
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:20 -0800
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:19 -0500
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:14 -0600
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 09:00 +1300
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 14:25 -0600
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 13:40 +1300
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:04 -0800
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 13:44 +1300
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:02 -0800
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 16:21 +1300

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#57364

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-03-02 16:23 +0000
Message-ID<bnh47uF37q6U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57360
On 2014-03-02, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3/1/14 10:37 PM, in article 010320142137499956%michelle@michelle.org,
> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> In article <53129a6f$0$59741$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple requires this underpaid and overworked labour to remain
>>> competitive. So its PR steps are not to end it or fix it, it is only to
>>> give the appearance of doing something about it.
>> 
>> If you actually bothered to pay attention to what is actually
>> happening, you would see that Apple is actually doing things to fix it.
>> 
>>>> come to expect you to ignore that and shed this in the worst possible
>>>> light you can muster. Your trolling is transparent.
>>> 
>>> Debate does not happen if differences in opinion are not tolerated.
>> 
>> Debating with you is like debating with a creationist.
>
> Or an Obama supporter...

Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...

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#57375

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2014-03-02 12:02 -0500
Message-ID<vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#57364
In article <bnh47uF37q6U2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>
> >
> > Or an Obama supporter...
> 
> Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...

Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#57379

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<020320141030523080%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57375
In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> 
> Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...

Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.

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#57384

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2014-03-02 12:46 -0500
Message-ID<cMGdnWAT697o847OnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#57379
In article <020320141030523080%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> > 
> > Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
> 
> Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
> and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.

No, but we were talking about those who are hard to deal with,who won't 
listen to the other side and get angry when it is posited that THERE is 
another side are always fundamentalists in their particular belief.
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#57393

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 11:09 -0700
Message-ID<020320141109161273%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57384
In article <cMGdnWAT697o847OnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <020320141030523080%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> > Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> > > 
> > > Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
> > 
> > Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
> > and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.
> 
> No, but we were talking about those who are hard to deal with,who won't 
> listen to the other side and get angry when it is posited that THERE is 
> another side are always fundamentalists in their particular belief.

That's the reason I wrote "not necessarily"; creationists and birthers
are fundamentalists.  Some supporters of those (and all other, for that
matter) political candidates are fundamentalist in their support, but
many (most) are not.

For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
he has done or said.

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#57414

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-03-02 14:03 -0600
Message-ID<CF38EAA3.A84E8%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#57393


On 3/2/14 12:09 PM, in article 020320141109161273%michelle@michelle.org,
"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <cMGdnWAT697o847OnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <020320141030523080%michelle@michelle.org>,
>>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
>>> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
>>> 
>>> Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
>>> and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.
>> 
>> No, but we were talking about those who are hard to deal with,who won't
>> listen to the other side and get angry when it is posited that THERE is
>> another side are always fundamentalists in their particular belief.
> 
> That's the reason I wrote "not necessarily"; creationists and birthers
> are fundamentalists.  Some supporters of those (and all other, for that
> matter) political candidates are fundamentalist in their support, but
> many (most) are not.
> 
> For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
> he has done or said.

Especially when he does 180s on everything he has said and done.

Between the out and out lies and deceit there is something positive hidden
with those college transcripts, I might allow...

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#57424

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-03-02 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<bnhn3sF7sesU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57393
On 2014-03-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <cMGdnWAT697o847OnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <020320141030523080%michelle@michelle.org>,
>>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
>> > Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
>> > > 
>> > > Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
>> > 
>> > Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
>> > and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.
>> 
>> No, but we were talking about those who are hard to deal with,who won't 
>> listen to the other side and get angry when it is posited that THERE is 
>> another side are always fundamentalists in their particular belief.
>
> That's the reason I wrote "not necessarily"; creationists and birthers
> are fundamentalists.  Some supporters of those (and all other, for that
> matter) political candidates are fundamentalist in their support, but
> many (most) are not.
>
> For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
> he has done or said.

I have yet to see a politician I can support in good conscience.

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#57458

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-03-02 20:15 -0500
Message-ID<5313d7a1$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#57393
On 14-03-02 13:09, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
> he has done or said.


A good example of fundamentalist is Jolly Rogers. He agress with Apple
all the time :-)

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#57461

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-03-03 01:18 +0000
Message-ID<bni3jdFa6ebU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57458
On 2014-03-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-03-02 13:09, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
>> For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
>> he has done or said.
>
> A good example of fundamentalist is Jolly Rogers. He agress with Apple
> all the time :-)

As if you'd know.

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#57471

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 19:57 -0700
Message-ID<020320141957504241%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57458
In article <5313d7a1$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-03-02 13:09, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
> > he has done or said.
> 
> 
> A good example of fundamentalist is Jolly Rogers. He agress with Apple
> all the time :-)
> 
Actually, he doesn't.  It's a shame, though, that you can't even get
the names of people correct.

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#57505

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2014-03-03 07:51 -0500
Message-ID<ov2dnVzt08V754nOnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#57471
In article <020320141957504241%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <5313d7a1$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On 14-03-02 13:09, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > 
> > > For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
> > > he has done or said.
> > 
> > 
> > A good example of fundamentalist is Jolly Rogers. He agress with Apple
> > all the time :-)
> > 
> Actually, he doesn't.  It's a shame, though, that you can't even get
> the names of people correct.

The most disconcerting part of the post was the use of the plural. You 
mean there may be more than one (grin).
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#57508

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-03-03 15:05 +0000
Message-ID<bnjk15Fk228U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57505
On 2014-03-03, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <020320141957504241%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> In article <5313d7a1$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 14-03-02 13:09, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> > 
>> > > For example, I"m an Obama supporter, but I do not agree with everything
>> > > he has done or said.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A good example of fundamentalist is Jolly Rogers. He agress with Apple
>> > all the time :-)
>> > 
>> Actually, he doesn't.  It's a shame, though, that you can't even get
>> the names of people correct.
>
> The most disconcerting part of the post was the use of the plural. You 
> mean there may be more than one (grin).

I wish. I've lost count of how many times I could've used a clone or
two.

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#57423

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-03-02 21:44 +0000
Message-ID<bnhn17F7sesU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57379
On 2014-03-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
>> 
>> Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
>
> Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
> and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.

Certainly a subset of any of those exhibit behavior that is
fundamentalist in nature.

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#57448

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 17:55 -0700
Message-ID<020320141755132795%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57423
In article <bnhn17F7sesU4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-03-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
> > Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> >> 
> >> Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
> >
> > Unlike creationists, and birthers, Obama supporters, Bush supporters,
> > and Reagan supporters are not necessarily fundamentalists.
> 
> Certainly a subset of any of those exhibit behavior that is
> fundamentalist in nature.

That's why I wrote "not necessarily".

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#57411

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-03-02 13:56 -0600
Message-ID<CF38E8F8.A84E5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#57375


On 3/2/14 11:02 AM, in article
vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Kurt Ullman"
<kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <bnh47uF37q6U2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Or an Obama supporter...
>> 
>> Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> 
> Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...

And fanatics...

<http://weaselzippers.us/147728-texas-pro-abortion-fanatic-to-pro-life-legis
lator-i-want-to-pummel-his-face-in/>

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#57417

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2014-03-02 15:49 -0500
Message-ID<B4OdnXOQzN_BBI7OnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#57411
In article <CF38E8F8.A84E5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/2/14 11:02 AM, in article
> vv-dnU37guS_-Y7OnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Kurt Ullman"
> <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <bnh47uF37q6U2@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Or an Obama supporter...
> >> 
> >> Or a birther, or a Bush supporter, or a Regan supporter, or a...
> > 
> > Pretty much any kind of fundamentalist...
> 
> And fanatics...
> 

 Personally pretty much the same thing in real life.
-- 
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital."
                       -- Aaron Levenstein

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#57445

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 17:44 -0700
Message-ID<020320141744042618%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57411
In article <CF38E8F8.A84E5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> <http://weaselzippers.us/147728-texas-pro-abortion-fanatic-to-pro-life-legis
> lator-i-want-to-pummel-his-face-in/>

Nice spin there.

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#57378

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-02 10:29 -0700
Message-ID<020320141029237741%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57360
In article <CF38B4B8.A8463%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> Debate does not happen if differences in opinion are not tolerated.
> > 
> > Debating with you is like debating with a creationist.
> > 
> 
> Or an Obama supporter...

Not at all.

> <http://tinypic.com/r/fyepoo/8>

First of all, I doubt it.  Secondly, what's the matter with that?

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#57339

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-03-02 05:19 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlh5fqb.r7d.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#57323
In message <53129a6f$0$59741$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-03-01 20:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> From what I've read, Apple actually does more than any other similar
>> company to reduce underpaid and overworked labor.

> Apple requires this underpaid and overworked labour to remain
> competitive.
Underpaid according to whom? The workers certainly do not feel
underpaid or overworked. They know exactly what the job is and they line
up by the thousands for a chance at making very good money.

-- 
I thank my lucky stars I'm not superstitious.

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#57330

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-03-01 21:37 -0700
Message-ID<010320142137318886%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#57321
In article <531279ff$0$46373$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Most large corporations have some "goodwill" endeavours to help with
> their image which is often damaged by terrible big business  practices.
> Apple's "green" endeavours compensate for the bad image Apple gets for
> building its iToys in China with underpaid and overworked labour.

As opposed to all the other manufacturers who build their toys in China
with underpaid and overworked labor, but who don't get a bad image
because they're not Apple, right?

At least Apple, unlike many of those other companies, is addressing
those labor issues.  But that doesn't count because it's Apple,right?

Did it ever occur to you that Apple's is doing those green endeavors
because they're the right thing to do?

> So cultivating a good image is an integral part of Apple's strategy, so
> those "green" initiaties are part of doing business for a company such
> as Apple.

How about because they're the right things to do for the sake of the
planet and the human race?

Try scaling back your cynicism.

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