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  Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 03:03 +0100
    Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-23 21:42 -0500
      Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 02:46 +0000
        Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:09 +0100
          Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 16:13 +0000
            Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-24 16:45 +0000
              Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-24 18:42 +0000
                Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-24 17:09 -0600
                  Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-24 23:13 +0000
                Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-28 04:05 +0000
                  Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-28 04:38 +0000
                    Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-02-27 23:56 -0800
                  Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:12 +0100
    Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-24 16:33 +1300
      Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-24 04:08 +0000
        Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:59 +0100
        Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-25 09:30 +0000
          Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-25 14:54 +0100
      Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 14:56 +0100
        Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:01 -0500
          Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-25 12:21 +1300
            Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-25 08:47 +0000
              Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-25 17:06 -0500
                Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:24 +0000
        Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 22:29 +0000
          Re: Lion and scrollbar arrows? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-02-24 23:39 +0100

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#56934 — Lion and scrollbar arrows?

Hi

I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon 
DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires 
Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to 
have double-arrows in the scrollbars...

Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?

Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools, 
Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a 
variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to 
Mountain Lion.:-(

cheers, Erik Richard
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
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#56935

ErikRS:
> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon 
> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires 
> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to 
> have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
> 
> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?

Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is
understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't
like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become
accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that
double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling
mouse or trackpad, anyway.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#56937

On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> ErikRS:
>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon 
>> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires 
>> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to 
>> have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
>> 
>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?
>
> Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is
> understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't
> like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become
> accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that
> double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling
> mouse or trackpad, anyway.

Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed to
the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the bullet
and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures for
clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed
persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and
bottom.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#56963

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>> ErikRS:
>>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon
>>> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires
>>> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to
>>> have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
>>>
>>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?
>>
>> Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is
>> understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't
>> like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become
>> accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget that
>> double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a scrolling
>> mouse or trackpad, anyway.
>
> Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed to
> the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the bullet
> and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures for
> clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed
> persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and
> bottom.

You can have the scrollbars themselves back - also permanently, but no 
arrows any way... I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts 
of two fingers on my right hand.

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#56968

On 2014-02-24, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:
>
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-02-24, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>>> ErikRS:
>>>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1
>>>> Xeon DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that
>>>> requires Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't
>>>> possible to have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
>>>>
>>>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v.
>>>> 10.7.5...?
>>>
>>> Your knee-jerk reaction against the loss of the double arrows is
>>> understandable. We all find changes in new OS versions that we don't
>>> like. If you are typical user and not a sorehead, you will become
>>> accustomed to the new scheme in a short time and you will forget
>>> that double arrows ever existed. They're a poor substitute for a
>>> scrolling mouse or trackpad, anyway.
>>
>> Indeed. The changes bothered me at first. While I did get accustomed
>> to the changes, they still somewhat irked me until I finally bit the
>> bullet and got myself a Magic Trackpad and learned to use gestures
>> for clicking, dragging, and scrolling. Ever since then haven't missed
>> persistent visible scroll bars or the little arrows at the top and
>> bottom.
>
> You can have the scrollbars themselves back - also permanently

Yes, and I do display them always.
> but no arrows any way...

Correct. Arrows are gone. I don't miss them; but I don't use a mouse
much anymore.

> I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
> with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts 
> of two fingers on my right hand.

That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#56971

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
> > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts 
> > of two fingers on my right hand.
> 
> That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO.

Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
complaint with it.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#56976

In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
> > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing parts 
> > > of two fingers on my right hand.
> > 
> > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO.
> 
> Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
> decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
> complaint with it.

+1

I use a Mighty Mouse.

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#57017

In article <240220141842294788%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
> > > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing 
> > > > parts 
> > > > of two fingers on my right hand.
> > > 
> > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO.
> > 
> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
> > complaint with it.
> 
> +1
> 
> I use a Mighty Mouse.

I have a wireless mouse with no buttons at all. Much easier on old 
wrists. I can just lean on it 8-)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#57019

In article <drache-3581A4.17094424022014@news.eternal-september.org>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <240220141842294788%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <lefsuo$bdv$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > > I can't use a trackpad because of various problems 
> > > > > with my hands such as problems with my wrist and partially missing 
> > > > > parts 
> > > > > of two fingers on my right hand.
> > > > 
> > > > That sucks. It's quite a better experience than a mouse, IMO.
> > > 
> > > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
> > > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
> > > complaint with it.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > I use a Mighty Mouse.
> 
> I have a wireless mouse with no buttons at all.

The wired MM is somewhat less fiddley to reassemble after cleaning, and
there's no batteries to worry about.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#57227

Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
> > complaint with it.
> 
> +1

Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore 
tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the 
window would be even better.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#57229

On 2014-02-28, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
>> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
>> > complaint with it.
>> 
>> +1
>
> Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore 
> tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the 
> window would be even better.

I've never had a mouse give me physical pain; but then I tend to stop
using any device at the first sign of discomfort, long before pain sets
in, and also adjust my grip and posture so that it doesn't become a
problem to begin with.
-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#57231

In article <bnai59Fm391U2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-02-28, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> > Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a 
> >> > decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a 
> >> > complaint with it.
> >> 
> >> +1
> >
> > Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore 
> > tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the 
> > window would be even better.
> 
> I've never had a mouse give me physical pain; but then I tend to stop
> using any device at the first sign of discomfort, long before pain sets
> in, and also adjust my grip and posture so that it doesn't become a
> problem to begin with.

The Magic Mouse did cause me pain after 45 minutes. Something about the 
way I had to hold it cause my shoulder to start aching after 45minutes. 
I took it back to the Apple Store and got the mobile trackpad which I 
only use rarely when I'm reading lots of stuff.  I much prefer the 
Macally iMouse or the Digital Innovations mouse. It fits my hand and 
doesn't need any sort of special driver.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#57249

Király wrote:
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> Trackpads and the Apple Magic Mouse also make my wrists sore. I use a
>>> decade-old Logitech USB mouse with scroll wheel and have never had a
>>> complaint with it.
>>
>> +1
>
> Ugh. I took my Magic Mouse out of a drawer and tried it out again. Sore
> tendon after five minutes. Back in the drawer it goes. Maybe out the
> window would be even better.

Huh! Don't do that. - It might hurt the one it hits.:-)

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#56941

ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:

> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon 
> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires 
> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to
> have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
> 
> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?

None that I've heard about. In Lion, Apple reimplemented the scroll bar
controls and the new ones have no support for arrows at all, so there is
no hidden setting to be tweaked by third party utilities or "defaults
write".

I didn't particularly care about that lost feature, as I was normally
scrolling with a trackpad or mouse scroll wheel anyway.

> Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools, 
> Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a
> variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to 
> Mountain Lion.:-(

Upgrading to a later OS X version won't bring the scroll bar arrows
back.

One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#56945

David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.

Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run 
in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion.

A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) 
would work.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#56966

Király wrote:
> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
>> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
>> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
>> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.
>
> Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run
> in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion.
>
> A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another)
> would work.

Could do, /if/ the voices needed mentioned in other replies would be 
available for Leopard/SnowLeopard, - but they aren't.:-(

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#57061

Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
>> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
>> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
>> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.
> 
> Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run 
> in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion.
> 
> A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another) 
> would work.


Are we sure Apple's SLA is valid in Denmark?

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#57065

Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
>>> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
>>> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
>>> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.
>>
>> Unfortunately that violates Lion's SLA. Lion is only licensed to run
>> in a virtual machine if the host OS is also Lion.
>>
>> A dual-boot system (Snow Leopard on one volume and Lion on another)
>> would work.
>
> Are we sure Apple's SLA is valid in Denmark?

Indeed it is... It's even written in Danish when you open an Apple 
installer.:-) - And even if it wasn't, I'd still be under this SLA, 
since my computers are registered at Apple USA and not Apple Denmark.

Cheers, Erik Rihcard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#56965

David Empson wrote:
> ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:
>> I've been forced to switch to Lion on my newly bought MacPro1.1 Xeon
>> DualCore 4x3,0ghz, due to the use of specific software that requires
>> Lion... - But it /does/ irritate me like ... that it isn't possible to
>> have double-arrows in the scrollbars...
>>
>> Is it in any way possible to get the arrows back again in Lion v. 10.7.5...?
>
> None that I've heard about. In Lion, Apple reimplemented the scroll bar
> controls and the new ones have no support for arrows at all, so there is
> no hidden setting to be tweaked by third party utilities or "defaults
> write".
>
> I didn't particularly care about that lost feature, as I was normally
> scrolling with a trackpad or mouse scroll wheel anyway.

As already answered to Vaveud and JollyRoger I can't use a normal 
trackpad - not even a normal mouse will do for me. I only have 
Kensington trackballs, which I mostly can use - also using the palm of 
my hand(s).

Therefore I normally use the scroll-ring inline in texts and windows, 
but this isn't always usable when using the scanner software mentioned 
below. - As I read the possibilities in Lion you can only set the 
scrollbar scrolling to either 'jump to mouse point' or 'jump to 
next/previous page'...

>> Lion Tweeks doesn't give the possibility, neither do TinkerTools,
>> Cocktail or Onyx. - A search on the web gives multiple discussions in a
>> variety of fora, but no real help - just 'advicing' on upgrading to
>> Mountain Lion.:-(
>
> Upgrading to a later OS X version won't bring the scroll bar arrows
> back.
>
> One possible solution: if you only need Lion for one application, and
> really want arrows in scroll bars in as many places as possible _apart_
> from that application, you could revert to Snow Leopard as your main OS,
> and run Lion inside a virtual machine, just for that application.

Unfortuantely that won't do. It's moe applications that I need to runa 
alongside with the use of TTS with multi-lingual voices from a Brother 
pro network scanner. Both 10.5.x and 10.6.x are supported in the scanner 
software, but none of the voices I need are usalbe in neither systems.

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#56992

On 14-02-24 08:56, ErikRS wrote:

> As already answered to Vaveud and JollyRoger I can't use a normal 
> trackpad - not even a normal mouse will do for me. I only have 
> Kensington trackballs, which I mostly can use - also using the palm of 
> my hand(s).

Note that scroll bars become important when you have multiple scollable
areas inside the same scrollable window. It becomes hard for the
software to know which scroll you want to do with mouse/trackpad.  The
scroll bar makes it explicit which scrollable area you are controlling.

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