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Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw

Started byTed Lee <tmplee@gmail.com>
First post2014-02-22 12:56 -0600
Last post2014-03-01 21:53 +0000
Articles 20 on this page of 197 — 21 participants

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  Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-22 12:56 -0600
    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 14:15 -0500
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 14:47 -0500
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 21:30 +0000
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 19:04 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 00:36 +0000
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 09:48 -0500
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 16:41 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 12:05 -0500
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 17:22 +0000
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-24 02:15 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 03:57 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 18:25 -0500
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-25 08:16 +0000
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:50 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-23 07:51 -0800
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 11:23 -0500
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-23 15:05 -0800
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 20:01 -0500
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 04:21 +0000
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-24 04:35 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 06:00 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-24 16:52 -0500
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-24 21:54 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:44 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:19 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 19:26 -0500
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:40 +0000
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 19:46 -0500
                                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:57 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:43 -0500
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:19 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 19:29 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:40 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 19:45 -0500
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 00:57 +0000
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 05:04 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 06:00 +0000
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 16:10 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-24 12:15 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 22:33 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:47 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-25 13:41 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-25 09:06 -0500
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-25 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-25 19:14 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-25 20:42 +0100
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-25 21:32 +0000
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 17:12 -0600
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 17:24 -0600
                                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-26 02:38 +0000
                                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 21:03 -0600
                                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-26 04:19 +0000
                                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-28 11:29 -0500
                                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-28 12:48 -0600
                                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-26 01:44 +0000
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-25 21:59 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 22:33 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 23:13 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:45 -0500
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 23:17 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 18:28 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-24 23:16 -0500
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-24 21:17 -0800
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-25 21:03 +0100
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-25 21:00 +0100
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-25 22:02 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-25 08:11 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-25 16:47 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-25 17:03 -0500
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:45 -0500
                                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:05 -0500
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-25 20:57 +0100
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-26 09:52 -0500
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-06 02:36 +0200
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-24 21:24 +0100
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 20:43 +0000
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:40 -0500
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 16:47 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-23 15:37 -0800
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 20:08 -0500
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 01:15 +0000
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-23 18:45 -0800
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 02:52 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-23 19:01 -0800
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 04:23 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-24 22:10 +0100
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 22:21 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:27 -0500
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:27 -0500
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-24 21:05 -0800
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:34 -0500
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-24 21:58 +0100
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 18:04 -0500
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-25 02:44 +0000
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 01:14 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-24 04:11 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 18:36 -0500
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-25 08:20 +0000
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-25 17:00 +0000
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-25 20:05 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-25 21:31 +0000
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-02-25 19:13 -0800
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-26 04:35 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-26 06:42 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-01 21:57 +0000
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:29 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-04-13 15:06 -0400
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-04-13 21:11 +0000
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-04-15 17:03 -0400
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-16 09:29 +1200
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:29 -0500
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-26 00:49 +0000
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:59 -0500
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-26 02:03 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 22:13 -0500
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-26 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:42 +0000
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 17:03 -0500
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-26 02:47 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:10 -0500
                                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-04-13 15:11 -0400
                                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 15:43 -0400
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-26 02:42 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-04-13 15:08 -0400
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 15:41 -0400
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-25 19:18 -0500
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:39 +0000
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 17:09 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 13:03 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-02-23 01:32 +0000
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 10:07 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-06 02:44 +0200
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-22 17:49 -0500
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 19:07 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-22 22:23 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 03:49 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 10:12 -0500
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 16:42 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 14:38 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 10:11 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 14:38 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:42 -0800
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-24 17:07 -0500
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-02-22 23:01 -0800
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 14:38 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-24 01:46 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-01 21:52 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-02 00:05 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-24 22:24 +0100
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) - 2014-02-24 10:43 +0100
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 18:39 -0500
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-24 19:16 -0500
    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 14:18 -0500
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-22 13:43 -0600
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 14:52 -0500
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-22 20:05 +0000
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 15:16 -0500
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-22 21:10 +0000
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 16:25 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-22 22:13 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 22:19 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 18:55 -0500
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-23 09:38 +0000
                    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 10:17 -0500
                      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-23 15:42 +0000
                        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 10:45 -0500
                          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-23 17:09 +0000
                            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 13:51 -0500
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-02-23 20:07 +0000
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 15:14 -0500
                                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 15:20 -0500
                              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-24 02:18 +0000
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-22 17:51 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 17:55 -0500
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-22 21:50 +0000
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 19:09 -0500
    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-02-22 12:35 -0800
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 16:59 -0500
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 22:14 +0000
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 17:53 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-22 18:01 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 18:22 -0500
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 18:29 -0500
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 23:33 +0000
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 18:23 -0500
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 01:08 +0000
    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-22 21:49 +0000
    Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-02-22 22:57 -0800
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 16:36 +0000
      Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-23 11:58 -0500
        Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 14:35 -0500
          Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-23 21:03 +0000
            Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 18:23 -0500
              Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-24 01:07 +0000
                Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-24 01:53 +0000
                  Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-01 21:53 +0000

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#56857

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-02-22 22:13 +0000
Message-ID<wwvha7q3ifb.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#56848
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>>> The word "only" is not required to keep that sentence restrained to
>>> the case described.  And logically, to be MitM, one has to be "inside"
>>> the router/WiFi firewall.
>>
>> MITM refers to an attacker capable of reading, deleting, modifying and
>> synthesizing messages between legitimate actors.  See, for instance,
>> s3.1 of Applied Cryptography for more detail.  It is not limited to any
>> particular network configuration.
>
> Fair enough.  OTOH It's pretty clear in this case that the MitM has to
> within your network.

The opposite is clear.  I’ve listed several possible mechanisms for
actually carrying out the MITM element in a previous post.  They are not
speculation.  As just one example, see:
http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/
for multiple recent observations of BGP-based active interception.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#56860

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-02-22 22:19 +0000
Message-ID<bmsm46Fn3b4U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56857
On 2014-02-22, Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>>>> The word "only" is not required to keep that sentence restrained to
>>>> the case described.  And logically, to be MitM, one has to be "inside"
>>>> the router/WiFi firewall.
>>>
>>> MITM refers to an attacker capable of reading, deleting, modifying and
>>> synthesizing messages between legitimate actors.  See, for instance,
>>> s3.1 of Applied Cryptography for more detail.  It is not limited to any
>>> particular network configuration.
>>
>> Fair enough.  OTOH It's pretty clear in this case that the MitM has to
>> within your network.
>
> The opposite is clear.  I’ve listed several possible mechanisms for
> actually carrying out the MITM element in a previous post.  They are not
> speculation.  As just one example, see:
> http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/
> for multiple recent observations of BGP-based active interception.

Great writeup. Thanks.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#56869

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-22 18:55 -0500
Message-ID<XOmdnYHoGIdppZTOnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56857
On 2014.02.22, 17:13 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>>>> The word "only" is not required to keep that sentence restrained to
>>>> the case described.  And logically, to be MitM, one has to be "inside"
>>>> the router/WiFi firewall.
>>>
>>> MITM refers to an attacker capable of reading, deleting, modifying and
>>> synthesizing messages between legitimate actors.  See, for instance,
>>> s3.1 of Applied Cryptography for more detail.  It is not limited to any
>>> particular network configuration.
>>
>> Fair enough.  OTOH It's pretty clear in this case that the MitM has to
>> within your network.
>
> The opposite is clear.  I’ve listed several possible mechanisms for
> actually carrying out the MITM element in a previous post.  They are not
> speculation.  As just one example, see:
> http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/
> for multiple recent observations of BGP-based active interception.

You've got my attention. So, how do those relate to the bug at hand?

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#56886

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-02-23 09:38 +0000
Message-ID<wwvzjli183x.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#56869
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> The opposite is clear.  I’ve listed several possible mechanisms for
>> actually carrying out the MITM element in a previous post.  They are not
>> speculation.  As just one example, see:
>> http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/
>> for multiple recent observations of BGP-based active interception.
>
> You've got my attention. So, how do those relate to the bug at hand?

1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
checked.

2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.

3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
communication to and from the real server to their substitute.

4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#56892

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-23 10:17 -0500
Message-ID<cvOdnVhPPKmHjJfOnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56886
On 2014.02.23, 04:38 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> 1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
> checked.
>
> 2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
> rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.
>
> 3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
> communication to and from the real server to their substitute.
>
> 4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
> is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).

I'm not convinced that that allows one to inject from outside ones own 
network as the router firewalls should also be rejecting.


-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#56893

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-02-23 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<wwvr46t25v0.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#56892
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:

>> 1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
>> checked.
>>
>> 2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
>> rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.
>>
>> 3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
>> communication to and from the real server to their substitute.
>>
>> 4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
>> is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).
>
> I'm not convinced that that allows one to inject from outside ones own
> network as the router firewalls should also be rejecting.

Have another look at the renesys article, the redirection happens
whether or not you personally believe in it.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#56894

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-23 10:45 -0500
Message-ID<3Y6dnbVSqIEHipfOnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56893
On 2014.02.23, 10:42 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>
>>> 1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
>>> checked.
>>>
>>> 2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
>>> rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.
>>>
>>> 3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
>>> communication to and from the real server to their substitute.
>>>
>>> 4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
>>> is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).
>>
>> I'm not convinced that that allows one to inject from outside ones own
>> network as the router firewalls should also be rejecting.
>
> Have another look at the renesys article, the redirection happens
> whether or not you personally believe in it.

It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.

Anyway, end of this little thread for me.

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#56904

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-02-23 17:09 +0000
Message-ID<wwvios521sy.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#56894
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> On 2014.02.23, 10:42 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>> 1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
>>>> checked.
>>>>
>>>> 2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
>>>> rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.
>>>>
>>>> 3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
>>>> communication to and from the real server to their substitute.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
>>>> is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).
>>>
>>> I'm not convinced that that allows one to inject from outside ones own
>>> network as the router firewalls should also be rejecting.
>>
>> Have another look at the renesys article, the redirection happens
>> whether or not you personally believe in it.
>
> It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.

I urge you to revisit that article.  If you don’t see the connection
then you have not fully understood it.  Your router cannot detect this
redirection because there is no difference between forged and legitimate
packets.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#56912

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-23 13:51 -0500
Message-ID<ffidnewCz4_V3pfOnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56904
On 2014.02.23, 12:09 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> On 2014.02.23, 10:42 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>>>> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>> 1. The bug is that signatures on server key exchange messages are not
>>>>> checked.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. An attacker who can arrange that a client is talking to their server,
>>>>> rather than the real one, will therefore go undetected.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. To achieve this the attacker needs to be able to redirect your
>>>>> communication to and from the real server to their substitute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Redirecting traffic via bogus BGP announcements, as described above,
>>>>> is one method of achieving this (it’s far from the only one).
>>>>
>>>> I'm not convinced that that allows one to inject from outside ones own
>>>> network as the router firewalls should also be rejecting.
>>>
>>> Have another look at the renesys article, the redirection happens
>>> whether or not you personally believe in it.
>>
>> It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.
>
> I urge you to revisit that article.  If you don’t see the connection
> then you have not fully understood it.  Your router cannot detect this
> redirection because there is no difference between forged and legitimate
> packets.

Well, reread it.

1) No stated connection to Apple code (OS X or iOS) at all.  eg: the 
packets they were watching could have been for any OS.

2) QUOTE What’s not known is the exact mechanism, ...  END QUOTE.

3) QUOTE Until the day when all routes are signed and secured (and that 
day may never fully arrive), the best way to prevent manipulation of 
trust-based routing will be ..."

So I'm still out on a limb connecting the bug discussed and the article 
linked.

(The article is very interesting, to be sure, esp. the on/offagainness 
over a long period).

-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#56918

FromRichard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Date2014-02-23 20:07 +0000
Message-ID<wwvd2id1tl7.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid>
In reply to#56912
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> On 2014.02.23, 12:09 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:

>>> It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.
>>
>> I urge you to revisit that article.  If you don’t see the connection
>> then you have not fully understood it.  Your router cannot etect this
>> redirection because there is no difference between forged and legitimate
>> packets.
>
> Well, reread it.
>
> 1) No stated connection to Apple code (OS X or iOS) at all.  eg: the
> packets they were watching could have been for any OS.

Indeed, it’s a general mechanism for redirecting traffic.  See previous
articles for its relevance to this bug.

> 2) QUOTE What’s not known is the exact mechanism, ...  END QUOTE.

Mechanism isn’t particularly relevant here, only the effect.

> 3) QUOTE Until the day when all routes are signed and secured (and
> that day may never fully arrive), the best way to prevent manipulation
> of trust-based routing will be ..."
>
> So I'm still out on a limb connecting the bug discussed and the
> article linked.

I’m losing the will to live here.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#56919

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-23 15:14 -0500
Message-ID<CP-dnX3pk-01y5fOnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56918
On 2014.02.23, 15:07 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> On 2014.02.23, 12:09 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>
>>>> It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.
>>>
>>> I urge you to revisit that article.  If you don’t see the connection
>>> then you have not fully understood it.  Your router cannot etect this
>>> redirection because there is no difference between forged and legitimate
>>> packets.
>>
>> Well, reread it.
>>
>> 1) No stated connection to Apple code (OS X or iOS) at all.  eg: the
>> packets they were watching could have been for any OS.
>
> Indeed, it’s a general mechanism for redirecting traffic.  See previous
> articles for its relevance to this bug.
>
>> 2) QUOTE What’s not known is the exact mechanism, ...  END QUOTE.
>
> Mechanism isn’t particularly relevant here, only the effect.
>
>> 3) QUOTE Until the day when all routes are signed and secured (and
>> that day may never fully arrive), the best way to prevent manipulation
>> of trust-based routing will be ..."
>>
>> So I'm still out on a limb connecting the bug discussed and the
>> article linked.
>
> I’m losing the will to live here.

Have a safe passage to the other side.

-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#56920

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-23 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<CP-dnXzpk-2TxZfOnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56918
On 2014.02.23, 15:07 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>> On 2014.02.23, 12:09 , Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>
>>>> It's the connection to the bug at issue that I'm not convinced about.
>>>
>>> I urge you to revisit that article.  If you don’t see the connection
>>> then you have not fully understood it.  Your router cannot etect this
>>> redirection because there is no difference between forged and legitimate
>>> packets.
>>
>> Well, reread it.
>>
>> 1) No stated connection to Apple code (OS X or iOS) at all.  eg: the
>> packets they were watching could have been for any OS.
>
> Indeed, it’s a general mechanism for redirecting traffic.  See previous
> articles for its relevance to this bug.
>
>> 2) QUOTE What’s not known is the exact mechanism, ...  END QUOTE.
>
> Mechanism isn’t particularly relevant here, only the effect.
>
>> 3) QUOTE Until the day when all routes are signed and secured (and
>> that day may never fully arrive), the best way to prevent manipulation
>> of trust-based routing will be ..."
>>
>> So I'm still out on a limb connecting the bug discussed and the
>> article linked.
>
> I’m losing the will to live here.

You've shown no direct connection between the two.  At all.

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#57305

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-02-24 02:18 +0000
Message-ID<leea6g$4jt$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#56912
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> writes:

> So I'm still out on a limb connecting the bug discussed and the article 
> linked.

The article simply describes one way to exploit the bug.  And, of course,
the article shows that this sort of thing is being done.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#56862

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-02-22 17:51 -0500
Message-ID<530929f0$0$9676$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#56841
On 14-02-22 15:16, Alan Browne wrote:

> The word "only" is not required to keep that sentence restrained to the 
> case described.  And logically, to be MitM, one has to be "inside" the 
> router/WiFi firewall.

Or be the NSA, GCHQ CSEC and all the other privacy invading agencies
that capture as much internet traffic as they can.

Imagine if this bug was put in by NSA ?

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#56864

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-22 17:55 -0500
Message-ID<220220141755504410%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#56862
In article <530929f0$0$9676$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Imagine if this bug was put in by NSA ?

already been suggested, although not by the nsa:
<https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/437185572856430592>

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#56853

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-22 21:50 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlgi6s9.22tr.g.kreme@oswin.local>
In reply to#56835
In message <QYOdnZ14PrOOZZXOnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.22, 13:56 , Ted Lee wrote:
>> The press and gossip rag reports say the recently discovered security
>> flaw with SSL is present in both IOS and OS X.  The patch for IOS showed
>> up last night.  The reports say the OS X one will be out soon.  Has
>> anyone run across a technically competent (as opposed to sensationalized
>> fear-mongering amateur drivel) discussion of the flaw *and* a conclusive
>> statement that it is indeed present in OS X?  Given Apple's policy of
>> not discussing or acknowledging security flaws until a patch is
>> available, I have to wonder if the flaw is in fact present in OS X --
>> for, if it were, wouldn't they wait to release anything (including a
>> fix) about it until the patch was available for both?

> http://9to5mac.com/ has a writeup on it (quoting Crowdstrike).  May not 
> be deep enough for you.

> The key thing is the exploit is on the near side of your router firewall 
> so unless you think junior is attacking from the basement I don't think 
> there's much to worry about.  (I'll assume you're using WPA2 with a 
> non-trivial shared secret, or better).

> QUOTE
> To pull off the attack an adversary has to be able to Man-in-The-Middle 
> (MitM) network connections, which can be done if they are present on the 
> same wired or wireless network as the victim.
> ENDQUOTE

The Hacker, he's calling from inside the house!

-- 
"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time
reading it." - Moses Hadas

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#56872

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-22 19:09 -0500
Message-ID<L-SdnaXB-Z2uoZTOnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56853
On 2014.02.22, 16:50 , Lewis wrote:
> In message <QYOdnZ14PrOOZZXOnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.02.22, 13:56 , Ted Lee wrote:
>>> The press and gossip rag reports say the recently discovered security
>>> flaw with SSL is present in both IOS and OS X.  The patch for IOS showed
>>> up last night.  The reports say the OS X one will be out soon.  Has
>>> anyone run across a technically competent (as opposed to sensationalized
>>> fear-mongering amateur drivel) discussion of the flaw *and* a conclusive
>>> statement that it is indeed present in OS X?  Given Apple's policy of
>>> not discussing or acknowledging security flaws until a patch is
>>> available, I have to wonder if the flaw is in fact present in OS X --
>>> for, if it were, wouldn't they wait to release anything (including a
>>> fix) about it until the patch was available for both?
>
>> http://9to5mac.com/ has a writeup on it (quoting Crowdstrike).  May not
>> be deep enough for you.
>
>> The key thing is the exploit is on the near side of your router firewall
>> so unless you think junior is attacking from the basement I don't think
>> there's much to worry about.  (I'll assume you're using WPA2 with a
>> non-trivial shared secret, or better).
>
>> QUOTE
>> To pull off the attack an adversary has to be able to Man-in-The-Middle
>> (MitM) network connections, which can be done if they are present on the
>> same wired or wireless network as the victim.
>> ENDQUOTE
>
> The Hacker, he's calling from inside the house!

I used to leave dirty messages on my neighbor's laptop public folder 
until they sorted out their router.  Now she complains that I don't 
write, I don't call...

-- 
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#56842

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2014-02-22 12:35 -0800
Message-ID<leb1m4$dh8$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#56833
On 2014-02-22 18:56:10 +0000, Ted Lee said:

> The press and gossip rag reports say the recently discovered security 
> flaw with SSL is present in both IOS and OS X.  The patch for IOS 
> showed up last night.  The reports say the OS X one will be out soon.  
> Has anyone run across a technically competent (as opposed to 
> sensationalized fear-mongering amateur drivel) discussion of the flaw 
> *and* a conclusive statement that it is indeed present in OS X?  Given 
> Apple's policy of not discussing or acknowledging security flaws until 
> a patch is available, I have to wonder if the flaw is in fact present 
> in OS X -- for, if it were, wouldn't they wait to release anything 
> (including a fix) about it until the patch was available for both?

Yup.

Here:

<https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/02/22/applebug.html>

It would seem that the bug is a single extra "goto" which is not inside 
the "if" that precedes it.

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#56856

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-22 16:59 -0500
Message-ID<220220141659492743%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#56842
In article <leb1m4$dh8$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> <https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/02/22/applebug.html>
> 
> It would seem that the bug is a single extra "goto" which is not inside 
> the "if" that precedes it.

the problem is that there is no 'if' that precedes it.

there are two gotos in a row, so it will always 'go to'.

that's bad.

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#56858

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-02-22 22:14 +0000
Message-ID<bmslqmFn3b4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56856
On 2014-02-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <leb1m4$dh8$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
><alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> <https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/02/22/applebug.html>
>> 
>> It would seem that the bug is a single extra "goto" which is not inside 
>> the "if" that precedes it.
>
> the problem is that there is no 'if' that precedes it.

LOL! mr.know-it-all always knows better than everyone and has to correct
you even when you weren't wrong! Of course for him to be right, we must
re-define the word "precede" to mean "immediately precede" rather than
what the word actually means: to come before. Anyone with half a brain
cell knows you meant "to come before" and there most certainly *is* an
if before the errant goto statement, which is clear to see. 

What you said is factually correct, Alan. Because the author chose not
to use curly braces in the if block, only the very first goto statement
is included in the if clause, and the second goto statement is
effectively outside of the if clause.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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