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Mail app question

Started byTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
First post2014-02-17 17:39 -0600
Last post2014-02-19 02:11 +0000
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  Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-17 17:39 -0600
    Re: Mail app question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-17 19:17 -0500
      Re: Mail app question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-17 22:54 -0700
        Re: Mail app question dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-18 20:04 +1100
          Re: Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-18 08:54 -0600
        Re: Mail app question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-18 18:20 -0500
          Re: Mail app question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-18 18:32 -0700
          Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 02:10 +0000
            Re: Mail app question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-18 20:27 -0700
              Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 04:29 +0000
          Re: Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-18 21:14 -0600
    Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 01:03 +0000
    Re: Mail app question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 17:20 -0800
      Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 05:12 +0000
        Re: Mail app question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 00:37 -0800
        Re: Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-18 08:57 -0600
          Re: Mail app question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-18 08:12 -0700
            Re: Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-18 21:03 -0600
            Re: Mail app question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 15:08 +0000
          Re: Mail app question Ian Hartley <Contact.News@sky.com> - 2014-02-18 20:09 +0000
            Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 20:16 +0000
            Re: Mail app question Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-18 21:09 -0600
              Re: Mail app question Ian Hartley <Contact.News@sky.com> - 2014-02-19 10:26 +0000
        Re: Mail app question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-18 18:21 -0500
          Re: Mail app question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-19 02:11 +0000

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#56671

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-02-18 20:16 +0000
Message-ID<bmhtd9Fdm2cU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56668
On 2014-02-18, Ian Hartley <Contact.News@sky.com> wrote:
> On 18/02/2014 14:57, Tim McNamara wrote:
>> Exactly.  I dislke the Outlook style three pane window for viewing
>> messages.  It feels claustrophobic to me, so I always open e-mails in a
>> new window to read them (this is also one of the reasons I don't like
>> Thunderbird as a newsreader).
>
> Easy to do in TB just shrink the message pane and double click the message.

Easy to do in Mail as well.

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#56696

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2014-02-18 21:09 -0600
Message-ID<slrnlg882h.1emb.timmcn@sugaree.local>
In reply to#56668
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:09:14 +0000, Ian Hartley <Contact.News@sky.com> wrote:
> On 18/02/2014 14:57, Tim McNamara wrote:
>> Exactly.  I dislke the Outlook style three pane window for viewing 
>> messages.  It feels claustrophobic to me, so I always open e-mails in 
>> a new window to read them (this is also one of the reasons I don't 
>> like Thunderbird as a newsreader).
>
> Easy to do in TB just shrink the message pane and double click the message.

Too much farting around.  I want to pop up the message window and just 
space bar through them like I could in MT-NW.  It strikes me as odd when 
software intended for reading messages is not designed to do that quickly 
and efficiently from the keyboard...  if you read a couple hundred 
messages a day, reaching for the mouse or trackpad, postioning the 
cursor, double-clicking, etc., is a nuisance and a time waster.  One of 
the reasons I went with slrn for Usenet is that it avoids the silliness 
that often afflicts GUI apps (on the other hand, writing or responding to 
a post isn't as efficient depending on the editor one chooses).  Gnus 
within Emacs is a decent compromise between GUI and keyboard based apps, 
although having to learn the arcane keybindings is inconvenient.

Ain't nothing perfect...

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#56711

FromIan Hartley <Contact.News@sky.com>
Date2014-02-19 10:26 +0000
Message-ID<le20sf$b0a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56696
On 19/02/2014 03:09, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:09:14 +0000, Ian Hartley
> <Contact.News@sky.com> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2014 14:57, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>> Exactly.  I dislke the Outlook style three pane window for
>>> viewing messages.  It feels claustrophobic to me, so I always
>>> open e-mails in a new window to read them (this is also one of
>>> the reasons I don't like Thunderbird as a newsreader).
>>
>> Easy to do in TB just shrink the message pane and double click the
>> message.
>
> Too much farting around.  I want to pop up the message window and
> just space bar through them like I could in MT-NW.

Space bar works in TB but I use bettertouchtool and just swipe left/right.

> It strikes me as odd when software intended for reading messages is
> not designed to do that quickly and efficiently from the keyboard...
> if you read a couple hundred messages a day, reaching for the mouse
> or trackpad, postioning the cursor, double-clicking, etc., is a
> nuisance and a time waster.

I am the opposite I like to keep My hand on the mouse.

> One of the reasons I went with slrn for Usenet is that it avoids the
> silliness that often afflicts GUI apps (on the other hand, writing or
> responding to a post isn't as efficient depending on the editor one
> chooses).  Gnus within Emacs is a decent compromise between GUI and
> keyboard based apps, although having to learn the arcane keybindings
> is inconvenient.
>
> Ain't nothing perfect...
>

One day.

Ian

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#56683

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-02-18 18:21 -0500
Message-ID<-u2dnf8ySMB9d57OnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#56645
On 2014.02.18, 00:12 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-02-18, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:
>>
>>> When I reply to an e-mail, Mail closes the e-mail to which I am
>>> replying.  There are times I don't want it to do that; is there any way
>>> to stop that behavior?
>>
>> There must be a way to stop it because it doesn't happen to me.
>>
>> Let me be more specific.  When I'm reading mail from my inbox and I
>> hit reply, my inbox remains the same (displaying the mail I was
>> reading) but a new window with the reply opens up on top of my inbox.
>>
>> So I gather something different happens for you?
>
> I believe he's talking about when you open a message in a separate
> window and reply to it, as opposed to viewing a message in the preview
> pane and replying to it. The behavior he describes is the way it works
> for me when I reply to a message displayed in a separate window.

Definitely not here.



-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#56688

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-02-19 02:11 +0000
Message-ID<bmii6uFi6mfU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56683
On 2014-02-18, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.18, 00:12 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-02-18, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> When I reply to an e-mail, Mail closes the e-mail to which I am
>>>> replying.  There are times I don't want it to do that; is there any way
>>>> to stop that behavior?
>>>
>>> There must be a way to stop it because it doesn't happen to me.
>>>
>>> Let me be more specific.  When I'm reading mail from my inbox and I
>>> hit reply, my inbox remains the same (displaying the mail I was
>>> reading) but a new window with the reply opens up on top of my inbox.
>>>
>>> So I gather something different happens for you?
>>
>> I believe he's talking about when you open a message in a separate
>> window and reply to it, as opposed to viewing a message in the preview
>> pane and replying to it. The behavior he describes is the way it works
>> for me when I reply to a message displayed in a separate window.
>
> Definitely not here.

Are you using Mac OS X 10.9.1 with Mail 7.1?

Is your Mail configured to use classic layout (in Mail Preferences >
Viewing)?

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