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Malware help and skepticism

Started bySalmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net>
First post2014-01-30 21:44 -0800
Last post2014-02-01 10:30 -0500
Articles 20 on this page of 269 — 28 participants

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  Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-30 21:44 -0800
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 19:35 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 22:46 -0800
    Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:11 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-31 09:34 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 13:22 -0500
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-01 09:57 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:48 +0000
      Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-01-31 22:23 +0000
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-31 20:39 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 15:07 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 17:06 +0000
            Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:44 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:36 +0000
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 15:04 +1300
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-31 21:50 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 15:08 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-02-01 15:27 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:45 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 09:33 +0100
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 09:32 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-01-31 08:02 -0600
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 09:57 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-01-31 10:37 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-31 12:57 -0700
    Re: Malware help and skepticism John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-01-31 16:59 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-01 12:34 -0600
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 22:58 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 18:42 -0500
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:50 +1300
            Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
              Re: Malware help and skepticism George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-02 15:01 -0600
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 10:11 -0500
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-04 08:47 +1300
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-03 20:25 +0000
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-03 16:13 -0600
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-03 17:11 -0600
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-03 23:35 +0000
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-04 11:19 +1100
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 08:51 +0000
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 08:06 -0700
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 17:12 +0000
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 +0000
                                P.S. Hoffman (was Re: Malware help and skepticism) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-04 19:34 +0000
                                  Re: P.S. Hoffman (was Re: Malware help and skepticism) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:28 +0000
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 10:30 -0700
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:51 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:34 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:20 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:36 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:12 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:10 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 18:20 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:29 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:28 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:03 -0500
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:22 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:24 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:56 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:28 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:11 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 07:25 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:27 +0000
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:20 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:42 -0800
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 15:02 +0000
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 16:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:48 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 22:58 +0000
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:13 +0100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:22 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:24 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:57 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:03 +0000
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 08:06 -0700
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:02 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:04 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:12 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 06:00 +1100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:32 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:04 -0800
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:28 -0500
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:09 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:31 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:19 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:47 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:00 +1300
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:26 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 21:46 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:52 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 22:49 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:43 -0700
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 16:59 -0500
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:57 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:17 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:46 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:32 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 20:53 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 18:33 -0800
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 14:19 +1100
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 19:34 -0800
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 17:25 +1100
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 22:34 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 02:47 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:32 -0800
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:58 +1100
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 17:52 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 15:46 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:54 -0800
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:12 -0500
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 19:16 -0800
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 21:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:36 +1100
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:20 +1300
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 17:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:33 -0800
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 15:58 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:41 +1300
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:29 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:14 +0100
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 12:35 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 10:04 +1300
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 19:10 +1100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 03:53 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:36 -0800
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:28 +1300
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 17:32 +1300
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-07 21:50 -0700
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:26 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:43 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:42 +1100
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:55 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0800
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 -0500
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 08:58 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 15:08 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:11 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:27 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-07 10:59 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:13 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:37 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-07 02:15 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:06 -0800
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:57 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:07 -0800
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 15:10 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:16 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:39 -0800
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0500
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:12 -0700
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:51 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:18 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:33 +1100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:23 +1300
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:04 +0000
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:07 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:07 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:24 -0500
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 16:56 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:04 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 14:47 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:17 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:02 -0500
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:53 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 22:15 +0100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 21:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 22:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 02:22 +0000
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 13:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:53 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:57 -0500
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:56 -0800
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 11:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-06 20:05 +0100
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 13:03 -0800
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 16:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:34 -0500
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:33 -0500
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:39 -0700
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:37 +0000
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 20:10 +0000
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 17:21 +0000
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:35 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:29 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:30 -0700
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:32 -0800
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:57 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:59 +1100
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:12 -0500
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-05 17:46 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:10 +1100
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:00 -0500
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:21 +1300
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:09 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:20 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:12 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:19 +1300
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:14 -0700
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:02 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:26 -0500
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:35 +1300
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:19 -0700
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:05 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:37 -0500
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:48 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:22 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 10:02 +1100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 23:19 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:56 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:59 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 12:52 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:09 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:35 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:16 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:55 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:00 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:22 +1100
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:05 -0500
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 12:51 -0500
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 18:32 +0100
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 08:31 +1100
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 17:07 -0500
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 11:52 +1300
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 10:38 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-11 06:52 +0100
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-04 13:28 +1300
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 08:50 +0000
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 11:05 -0800
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:20 +0000
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:53 +1300
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:39 +0100
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 09:40 +1300
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-03 18:31 -0500
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 13:01 -0500
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:36 -0700
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:11 -0500
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:06 +1300
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:39 -0700
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:22 +0000
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:07 +0000
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-02-01 08:03 -0600
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 09:08 -0500
        Re: Malware help and skepticism dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-02-01 20:47 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 16:41 -0500
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 11:27 +1300
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-02-02 15:05 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 07:55 -0700
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 11:22 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 20:10 -0700
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:36 -0500
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:30 -0500

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#56182

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-08 09:32 +1300
Message-ID<080220140932100427%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#56170
In article <6biesa-j2m1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-02-01, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-01-31, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:48:03 UTC, Lewis
> >><g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is no malware in eyeTV unless you put it there.
> >>
> >> I have in the past thought that EyeTV itself is malware. It's gotten
> >> better over the years but it still hangs from time to time. I have
> >> yet to watch a whole football game without at least one freeze.
> >
> > Hyperbole.
> 
> Super Bowl?

That's the newest breakfast menu item at McDonalds - a huge bowl of
sugary cereal.  ;-)

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#55651

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2014-01-31 08:02 -0600
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.11.1401310752280.57398@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#55637
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On Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:44 -0800, 
 in article <SalmonEgg-7D5765.21443230012014@news80.forteinc.com>, 
 Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> To my surprise, someone calls me up and asks for me by name. He 
> tells me that my computer sent his organization messages that 
> indicated I have some malware that they could take care of remotely. 
> To say that I was skeptical is an understatement. The outfit calls 
> themselves iMax support with website https://www.imaxsupport.com/.

> What can people here tell me about them? What should my first steps 
> be to track down malware problems? I am reluctant to download 
> software from the web, but sometimes that is difficult to do.

As others have stated, it's a scam.  If you play their game, you'll 
encounter problems, because the first thing they'll say is, "Go to the 
Start" menu.  As a Mac user, you're not likely to find such a native 
menu item, in the tray at the bottom of your monitor display.

63.141.241.227 www.imaxsupport.com : b.barracudacentral.org : BLOCKED
    (127.0.0.2)
    http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?pr=1&ip=63.141.241.227

- -- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#55654

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-31 09:57 -0500
Message-ID<52ebb9bd$0$59730$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55651
In article <alpine.OSX.2.11.1401310752280.57398@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> As others have stated, it's a scam.  If you play their game, you'll 
> encounter problems, because the first thing they'll say is, "Go to the 
> Start" menu.  As a Mac user, you're not likely to find such a native 
> menu item, in the tray at the bottom of your monitor display.

I had a guy with an impenetrable Indian accent call up and tell me that 
they'd been sending me messages about my computer was being malicious on 
teh Internetz and I asked "what email address did you send your messages 
to?" and he says "no no no, in the little yellow box pop up bottom your 
screen" and I fell about laughing and he hung up.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#55664

Fromisw <isw@witzend.com>
Date2014-01-31 10:37 -0800
Message-ID<isw-81BA23.10373431012014@[216.168.3.50]>
In reply to#55651
In article <alpine.OSX.2.11.1401310752280.57398@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:44 -0800, 
>  in article <SalmonEgg-7D5765.21443230012014@news80.forteinc.com>, 
>  Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > To my surprise, someone calls me up and asks for me by name. He 
> > tells me that my computer sent his organization messages that 
> > indicated I have some malware that they could take care of remotely. 
> > To say that I was skeptical is an understatement. The outfit calls 
> > themselves iMax support with website https://www.imaxsupport.com/.
> 
> > What can people here tell me about them? What should my first steps 
> > be to track down malware problems? I am reluctant to download 
> > software from the web, but sometimes that is difficult to do.
> 
> As others have stated, it's a scam.  If you play their game, you'll 
> encounter problems, because the first thing they'll say is, "Go to the 
> Start" menu.  As a Mac user, you're not likely to find such a native 
> menu item, in the tray at the bottom of your monitor display.

If I get one of those calls when I'm feeling bored, I try to keep the 
guy on the line as long as possible. I figure it's a sort of "civic 
duty" because there's no way I'm going to fall for his scam, and maybe I 
can keep some poor sod who is already running a faulty system (Windows) 
from getting conned further.

The fun usually starts when they tell me to go for the "Start" button 
and I tell them (repeatedly, because they can't believe it and just 
think I don't know what I'm doing) that there is not one.

Best response to date is when I got the guy to yell at me for wasting 
*his* time.

Isaac

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#55666

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-01-31 12:57 -0700
Message-ID<310120141257245338%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#55664
In article <isw-81BA23.10373431012014@[216.168.3.50]>, isw
<isw@witzend.com> wrote:

> Best response to date is when I got the guy to yell at me for wasting 
> *his* time.

I do the same, and have managed to get that same result.

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#55669

FromJohn Albert <j.albert@snet.net>
Date2014-01-31 16:59 -0500
Message-ID<52ec1cbb$0$29726$862e30e2@ngroups.net>
In reply to#55637
On 1/31/14 12:44 AM, Salmon Egg wrote:
> To my surprise, someone calls me up and asks for me by name. He tells me
> that my computer sent his organization messages that indicated I have
> some malware that they could take care of remotely.

Best thing is to do what I do:
Don't answer the phone.

Call my phone and unless I recognize the number, I don't answer.
A lot of times I don't even answer when I -do- know who's 
calling.

Call me, and leave a message.
I may call you back, but I probably won't. I may send an 
email instead.

Also - I have a phone service which allows me to block ALL 
out-of-country calls by default, and it's always turned on.
Also - I have caller ID rigged so that any "private caller" 
(i.e., no phone number displayed) can't even reach me -- 
caller receives pre-recorded message that the number they 
are calling cannot accept anonymous calls.

I also have a cell phone -- but it's turned OFF almost 100% 
of the time. Exception, I will turn it on, but ONLY if I 
have to make an outgoing call.

As you may have gathered, I don't enjoy talking to people on 
the phone!

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#55723

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2014-02-01 12:34 -0600
Message-ID<drache-AE220F.12341601022014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55669
In article <52ec1cbb$0$29726$862e30e2@ngroups.net>,
 John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> On 1/31/14 12:44 AM, Salmon Egg wrote:
> > To my surprise, someone calls me up and asks for me by name. He tells me
> > that my computer sent his organization messages that indicated I have
> > some malware that they could take care of remotely.
> 
> Best thing is to do what I do:
> Don't answer the phone.

   If I'm watching TV, I see the number there. If there's none, I either 
ignore it until it quits, which it always does before the answering 
machine kicks in, or if I'm already standing, go over, lift the phone 
off, and unless there's an instant "hello" of some sort, hang it up.  
Phone robots and other robo calls always hesitate.
> 
> Call my phone and unless I recognize the number, I don't answer.
> A lot of times I don't even answer when I -do- know who's 
> calling.
> 
> Call me, and leave a message.
> I may call you back, but I probably won't. I may send an 
> email instead.

I prefer email most of the time.
> 
> Also - I have a phone service which allows me to block ALL 
> out-of-country calls by default, and it's always turned on.
> Also - I have caller ID rigged so that any "private caller" 
> (i.e., no phone number displayed) can't even reach me -- 
> caller receives pre-recorded message that the number they 
> are calling cannot accept anonymous calls.

That's a nice service 8-)
> 
> I also have a cell phone -- but it's turned OFF almost 100% 
> of the time. Exception, I will turn it on, but ONLY if I 
> have to make an outgoing call.

Same here.  It also means I seldom need to recharge it, but have an 
emergency phone I can carry in my pocket or glove compartment.
> 
> As you may have gathered, I don't enjoy talking to people on 
> the phone!

Oh, I'm happy to talk to some people.  But never to people who want my 
money.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#55739

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-01 22:58 +0000
Message-ID<slrnleqv09.a20.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#55723
In message <drache-AE220F.12341601022014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <52ec1cbb$0$29726$862e30e2@ngroups.net>,
>  John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

>> On 1/31/14 12:44 AM, Salmon Egg wrote:
>> > To my surprise, someone calls me up and asks for me by name. He tells me
>> > that my computer sent his organization messages that indicated I have
>> > some malware that they could take care of remotely.
>> 
>> Best thing is to do what I do:
>> Don't answer the phone.

>    If I'm watching TV, I see the number there. If there's none, I either 
> ignore it until it quits, which it always does before the answering 
> machine kicks in, or if I'm already standing, go over, lift the phone 
> off, and unless there's an instant "hello" of some sort, hang it up.  
> Phone robots and other robo calls always hesitate.

I *never* answer the phone unless the caller is in my address book. If
they do not leave a message, they get added to the "block" list and I
never see their calls again.

I almost never LISTEN to messages, but if a caller left a message I will
call them back.

-- 
I intend to live forever -- so far, so good!

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#55744

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-01 18:42 -0500
Message-ID<52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55739
In article <slrnleqv09.a20.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> I *never* answer the phone unless the caller is in my address book. If
> they do not leave a message, they get added to the "block" list and I
> never see their calls again.
> 
> I almost never LISTEN to messages, but if a caller left a message I will
> call them back.

We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot 
never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a 
business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call 
back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of 
the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal, 
but they don't call too often.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#55746

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-02 12:50 +1300
Message-ID<020220141250024516%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#55744
In article <52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnleqv09.a20.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > 
> > I *never* answer the phone unless the caller is in my address book. If
> > they do not leave a message, they get added to the "block" list and I
> > never see their calls again.
> > 
> > I almost never LISTEN to messages, but if a caller left a message I will
> > call them back.
> 
> We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot 
> never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a 
> business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call 
> back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of 
> the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal, 
> but they don't call too often.

That technique may become less useful as more and more phonecalls go
via the internet and only become "real" phonecalls at the local end of
the connection.

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#55768

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
Message-ID<020220141247041766%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55744
In article <52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot 
> never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a 
> business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call 
> back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of 
> the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal, 
> but they don't call too often.

with mobile phones and number portability, there's no way to know if a
call is really long distance. 

area codes are quickly becoming meaningless. someone might decide to
port their old number to a local carrier (either cellphone, landline or
both), so while their area code might not be local, they could be just
up the road a bit.

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#55785

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-02-02 15:01 -0600
Message-ID<CF140E46.A7012%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#55768


On 2/2/14 11:47 AM, in article 020220141247041766%nospam@nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot
>> never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a
>> business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call
>> back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of
>> the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal,
>> but they don't call too often.
> 
> with mobile phones and number portability, there's no way to know if a
> call is really long distance.
> 
> area codes are quickly becoming meaningless. someone might decide to
> port their old number to a local carrier (either cellphone, landline or
> both), so while their area code might not be local, they could be just
> up the road a bit.

Correct. My wife's brother is on our family plan, so when he calls from his
home in Oklahoma City, we see it as a Houston (713) Area Code.

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#55802

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-03 10:11 -0500
Message-ID<52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55785
In article <CF140E46.A7012%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 2/2/14 11:47 AM, in article 020220141247041766%nospam@nospam.invalid,
> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
> > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot
> >> never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a
> >> business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call
> >> back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of
> >> the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal,
> >> but they don't call too often.
> > 
> > with mobile phones and number portability, there's no way to know if a
> > call is really long distance.
> > 
> > area codes are quickly becoming meaningless. someone might decide to
> > port their old number to a local carrier (either cellphone, landline or
> > both), so while their area code might not be local, they could be just
> > up the road a bit.
> 
> Correct. My wife's brother is on our family plan, so when he calls from his
> home in Oklahoma City, we see it as a Houston (713) Area Code.

It's true that cel phones ring from wherever they're activated. So my 
wife calls from hers when she's in Montreal, and it rings as a local 
call here. Nonetheless, my quick-and-dirty screening method based on how 
the phone rings is pretty effective. We live in a small town, and local 
calls are always someone we know or a wrong number (we've only got two 
exchanges, and people always mix them up). LD calls are usually dead air 
these days. Sometimes someone has died. 

Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman. 
Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#55809

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-04 08:47 +1300
Message-ID<040220140847545575%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#55802
In article <52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
<snip>
> 
> Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman. 
> Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?

The way Bieber is going it won't be long before it is him. Yet another
child celebrity gone weirdo and a danger to themselves.

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#55810

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-03 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlevupg.vhe.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#55809
In message <040220140847545575%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
> <snip>
>> 
>> Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman. 
>> Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?

> The way Bieber is going it won't be long before it is him. Yet another
> child celebrity gone weirdo and a danger to themselves.

Yeah, I know. I mean, what kind of idiot decides to have a drag race and
has his "people" close off the street ahead of time?

-- 
'Everything will be all right. From History's point of view, that is.
There really isn't any other.'

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#55811

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-02-03 16:13 -0600
Message-ID<CF1570A7.A705F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#55802


On 2/3/14 9:11 AM, in article
52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com, "Warren Oates"
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <CF140E46.A7012%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/2/14 11:47 AM, in article 020220141247041766%nospam@nospam.invalid,
>> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <52ed867c$0$45956$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>,
>>> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We get a different ring for local and long-distance calls. We almot
>>>> never answer the LD calls, just let the machine pick it up (we run a
>>>> business, and I'd rather a legit customer leave details so I can call
>>>> back with everything I need at my fingertips). This screens out 99% of
>>>> the crap calls. There's a local call center that rings the local signal,
>>>> but they don't call too often.
>>> 
>>> with mobile phones and number portability, there's no way to know if a
>>> call is really long distance.
>>> 
>>> area codes are quickly becoming meaningless. someone might decide to
>>> port their old number to a local carrier (either cellphone, landline or
>>> both), so while their area code might not be local, they could be just
>>> up the road a bit.
>> 
>> Correct. My wife's brother is on our family plan, so when he calls from his
>> home in Oklahoma City, we see it as a Houston (713) Area Code.
> 
> It's true that cel phones ring from wherever they're activated. So my
> wife calls from hers when she's in Montreal, and it rings as a local
> call here. Nonetheless, my quick-and-dirty screening method based on how
> the phone rings is pretty effective. We live in a small town, and local
> calls are always someone we know or a wrong number (we've only got two
> exchanges, and people always mix them up). LD calls are usually dead air
> these days. Sometimes someone has died.
> 
> Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman.
> Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?

<http://tinypic.com/r/2ewdv6o/8>

;-)

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#55817

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2014-02-03 17:11 -0600
Message-ID<drache-7FFD4B.17113203022014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55802
In article <52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman. 
> Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?

Agreed!

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#55819

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-02-03 23:35 +0000
Message-ID<030220142335364204%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#55817
In article <drache-7FFD4B.17113203022014@news.eternal-september.org>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <52efb1a2$0$49565$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of someone dying -- it's a shame about Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Never heard of him.

> > Why couldn't it have been Justin Bieber?

Unfortunately I have heard of this one, but wish I hadn't. Why do
non-entities get all this publicity?

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#55820

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-02-04 11:19 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-08481E.11192704022014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#55819
In article <030220142335364204%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > > ... Philip Seymour Hoffman.
> 
> Never heard of him.

Do you go to the movies?

-- 
dorayme

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#55839

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-02-04 08:51 +0000
Message-ID<040220140851054001%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#55820
In article <do_ray_me-08481E.11192704022014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <030220142335364204%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > > > ... Philip Seymour Hoffman.
> > 
> > Never heard of him.
> 
> Do you go to the movies?

From time to time.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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