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Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine?

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First post2013-12-21 21:15 -0800
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  Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-21 21:15 -0800
    Re: Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-22 20:33 +1300
      Re: Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-22 20:04 +0000
    Re: Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-12-22 20:59 +0000

#53632 — Do you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine?

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2013-12-21 21:15 -0800
SubjectDo you guys use SuperDuper with TimeMachine?
Message-ID<q9SdnauSSKrD6CvPnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Hello.

I recently discovered SuperDuper and it is nice. It reminded me of 
Symantec's Norton Ghost and I can do full disk clones to another HDD or 
into an image for full backups. I guess I will do those full disk 
backups, on two different MacBook Pros (10.8.5 and 10.5.8 with all 
updates) once in a while with Time Machine's backups on external 500 GB 
USB2 HDD.

However, I don't like doing disk clonings/making images in the same OS. 
I would like to avoid conflicts that could cause interferences. Is there 
a way to do outside on a bootable media?

Thank you in advance. :)
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#53636

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2013-12-22 20:33 +1300
Message-ID<1leaq94.zv1ccpiabauoN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#53632
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> I recently discovered SuperDuper and it is nice. It reminded me of 
> Symantec's Norton Ghost and I can do full disk clones to another HDD or
> into an image for full backups. I guess I will do those full disk 
> backups, on two different MacBook Pros (10.8.5 and 10.5.8 with all 
> updates) once in a while with Time Machine's backups on external 500 GB
> USB2 HDD.
> 
> However, I don't like doing disk clonings/making images in the same OS.
> I would like to avoid conflicts that could cause interferences. Is there
> a way to do outside on a bootable media?

Which question are you asking? The one in the subject line seems to have
little to do with the body of the post.

Mixed use of SuperDuper and Time Machine is fine. I use Time Machine for
regular backups, and SuperDuper for occasional clone backups which I
store in different locations for disaster recovery. (My Time Machine
backups are not quite complete: virtual machines and some large folders
are excluded; I don't care if I have to revert to an older backup of
them.)

I've never bothered booting from a different drive to do backups with
either Time Machine or SuperDuper, but I do try to have as little as
possible running when I do SuperDuper backups, so the backup is as
"clean" as possible.

If you want to boot from another drive to do SuperDuper backups, that
will work fine. Install a bootable system on an external drive and copy
SuperDriver to the Applications folder on that drive. When you want to
do a backup, boot from that drive and run SuperDuper, telling it to
clone the main (internal) drive to another external drive.

It should be possible to set this up on a reasonable sized USB flash
drive (16 GB is ample for a bootable system with nothing much running).

There are some third party tools which have some useful options in this
area, e.g. TechTool Pro can create what it calls an eDrive, which is a
bootable partition on the main drive from which you can run TechTool
Pro, and it is possible to install other utility applications alongside
TechTool Pro on the eDrive.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#53655

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-12-22 20:04 +0000
Message-ID<bhoutmF2rt9U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53636
On 2013-12-22, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>> I recently discovered SuperDuper and it is nice. It reminded me of 
>> Symantec's Norton Ghost and I can do full disk clones to another HDD or
>> into an image for full backups. I guess I will do those full disk 
>> backups, on two different MacBook Pros (10.8.5 and 10.5.8 with all 
>> updates) once in a while with Time Machine's backups on external 500 GB
>> USB2 HDD.
>> 
>> However, I don't like doing disk clonings/making images in the same OS.
>> I would like to avoid conflicts that could cause interferences. Is there
>> a way to do outside on a bootable media?
>
> Which question are you asking? The one in the subject line seems to have
> little to do with the body of the post.

Ant is exceedingly great at filling subject lines with all sorts of
interesting words in an attempt to start long paragraphs of discussion
before inevitably continuing the discussion in the post body (perhaps
when he runs out of space in the Subject line?). Quite interesting to
watch...

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JR

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#53656

FromHoward.not@home.com (Howard)
Date2013-12-22 20:59 +0000
Message-ID<1learwl.1x2kth3lko3ceN%Howard.not@home.com>
In reply to#53632
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I recently discovered SuperDuper and it is nice. It reminded me of 
> Symantec's Norton Ghost and I can do full disk clones to another HDD or
> into an image for full backups. I guess I will do those full disk 
> backups, on two different MacBook Pros (10.8.5 and 10.5.8 with all 
> updates) once in a while with Time Machine's backups on external 500 GB
> USB2 HDD.
> 
> However, I don't like doing disk clonings/making images in the same OS.
> I would like to avoid conflicts that could cause interferences. Is there
> a way to do outside on a bootable media?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Not sure what you want to do. So I'll just say what I do.

I have been disappinted by TM a couple of times in the last five years.
It has 'forgotten' many months and months of backups on three occasions
for no discernible reasons.

So now I use an external HD, partitioned. In one partition I let TM
continue, while I use SuperDuper to backup by HD to the other partition
... excepting a number of large folders that I dont feel I need to
backup.

-- 
Howard

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