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  Mavericks - occasional complete freeze Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-25 19:31 -0500
    Re: Mavericks - occasional complete freeze Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-26 01:43 +0000
      Re: Mavericks - occasional complete freeze Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-27 17:23 -0500
        Re: Mavericks - occasional complete freeze peter.misak@gmail.com - 2014-01-26 05:03 -0800
          Re: Mavericks - occasional complete freeze Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-26 10:26 -0500
          Re: Mavericks - occasional complete freeze Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-26 13:08 -0800

#52664 — Mavericks - occasional complete freeze

A few times since Mavericks was installed, the computer has completely 
frozen for 20 - 30 seconds.  No beachball, menumeters stop moving, clock 
stops updating.  No response to keyboard (eg: CMD-Tab) Only the mouse 
cursor moves.

Seems to occur a few days after a restart.  It does it a few times, I 
restart the OS and I'm good for a few days again.

Seems to occur when I'm using Chrome - but also have various other apps 
running when it occurs.

(iMac late 2012 i7, 24 GB, 1 TB Fusion).

Anyone?

I see this:
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/haswell-powered-macbook-pro-retina-models-reportedly-freezing-mavericks-to-blame--1194127
But it seems specific to the MBP.

and
http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/
(but at least in my case it resumes after a bit...)

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#52667

On 2013-11-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> A few times since Mavericks was installed, the computer has completely 
> frozen for 20 - 30 seconds.  No beachball, menumeters stop moving, clock 
> stops updating.  No response to keyboard (eg: CMD-Tab) Only the mouse 
> cursor moves.
>
> Seems to occur a few days after a restart.  It does it a few times, I 
> restart the OS and I'm good for a few days again.
>
> Seems to occur when I'm using Chrome - but also have various other apps 
> running when it occurs.
>
> (iMac late 2012 i7, 24 GB, 1 TB Fusion).
>
> Anyone?
>
> I see this:
> http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/haswell-powered-macbook-pro-retina-models-reportedly-freezing-mavericks-to-blame--1194127
> But it seems specific to the MBP.
>
> and
> http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/
> (but at least in my case it resumes after a bit...)

Why not have a look at the console and system logs for events around
that time?

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#52765

On 2013.11.25, 20:43 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2013-11-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> A few times since Mavericks was installed, the computer has completely
>> frozen for 20 - 30 seconds.  No beachball, menumeters stop moving, clock
>> stops updating.  No response to keyboard (eg: CMD-Tab) Only the mouse
>> cursor moves.
>>
>> Seems to occur a few days after a restart.  It does it a few times, I
>> restart the OS and I'm good for a few days again.
>>
>> Seems to occur when I'm using Chrome - but also have various other apps
>> running when it occurs.
>>
>> (iMac late 2012 i7, 24 GB, 1 TB Fusion).
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> I see this:
>> http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/haswell-powered-macbook-pro-retina-models-reportedly-freezing-mavericks-to-blame--1194127
>> But it seems specific to the MBP.
>>
>> and
>> http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/
>> (but at least in my case it resumes after a bit...)
>
> Why not have a look at the console and system logs for events around
> that time?

I did and there's nothing specific enough.  Next time it occurs I'll try 
again and immediately.  (Other times I was trying to get other things done).

-- 
"The radio was once expected to promote international understanding and 
co-operation;
it has turned out to be a means of insulating one nation from another."
                                                  -George Orwell, 1945

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#55422

Hi,

I'm having exactly the same problem. I still could not identify the source of the issue, even though I'm always trying to find out in Console logs. Sometimes it happens just when I exit an application, sometimes just when I try to switch to another application. 

However, it's always the same: mouse cursor working, *some* keyboard shortcuts working, but I can't switch to another application, CMD+TAB is not working, etc. It lasts about 5 seconds and then everything works again. 

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:23:44 PM UTC+1, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2013.11.25, 20:43 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> > On 2013-11-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >> A few times since Mavericks was installed, the computer has completely
> 
> >> frozen for 20 - 30 seconds.  No beachball, menumeters stop moving, clock
> 
> >> stops updating.  No response to keyboard (eg: CMD-Tab) Only the mouse
> 
> >> cursor moves.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Seems to occur a few days after a restart.  It does it a few times, I
> 
> >> restart the OS and I'm good for a few days again.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Seems to occur when I'm using Chrome - but also have various other apps
> 
> >> running when it occurs.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> (iMac late 2012 i7, 24 GB, 1 TB Fusion).
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Anyone?
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I see this:
> 
> >> http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/haswell-powered-macbook-pro-retina-models-reportedly-freezing-mavericks-to-blame--1194127
> 
> >> But it seems specific to the MBP.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> and
> 
> >> http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/
> 
> >> (but at least in my case it resumes after a bit...)
> 
> >
> 
> > Why not have a look at the console and system logs for events around
> 
> > that time?
> 
> 
> 
> I did and there's nothing specific enough.  Next time it occurs I'll try 
> 
> again and immediately.  (Other times I was trying to get other things done).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "The radio was once expected to promote international understanding and 
> 
> co-operation;
> 
> it has turned out to be a means of insulating one nation from another."
> 
>                                                   -George Orwell, 1945

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#55428

On 2014.01.26, 08:03 , peter.misak@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having exactly the same problem. I still could not identify the
> source of the issue, even though I'm always trying to find out in
> Console logs. Sometimes it happens just when I exit an application,
> sometimes just when I try to switch to another application.
>
> However, it's always the same: mouse cursor working, *some* keyboard
> shortcuts working, but I can't switch to another application, CMD+TAB
> is not working, etc. It lasts about 5 seconds and then everything
> works again.

I haven't had it happen in a while now.  We'll see over time.

Don't top post.

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#55454

In article <c08be1d6-4d0e-4e34-9c97-3134f85b8d9f@googlegroups.com>,
 peter.misak@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having exactly the same problem. I still could not identify the source of 
> the issue, even though I'm always trying to find out in Console logs. 
> Sometimes it happens just when I exit an application, sometimes just when I 
> try to switch to another application. 
> 
> However, it's always the same: mouse cursor working, *some* keyboard 
> shortcuts working, but I can't switch to another application, CMD+TAB is not 
> working, etc. It lasts about 5 seconds and then everything works again. 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:23:44 PM UTC+1, Alan Browne wrote:
> > On 2013.11.25, 20:43 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2013-11-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> A few times since Mavericks was installed, the computer has completely
> > >> frozen for 20 - 30 seconds.  No beachball, menumeters stop moving, clock
> > >> stops updating.  No response to keyboard (eg: CMD-Tab) Only the mouse
> > >> cursor moves.
> > >>
> > >> Seems to occur a few days after a restart.  It does it a few times, I
> > >> restart the OS and I'm good for a few days again.
> > >>
> > >> Seems to occur when I'm using Chrome - but also have various other apps
> > >> running when it occurs.
> > >>
> > >> (iMac late 2012 i7, 24 GB, 1 TB Fusion).
> > >>
> > >> Anyone?
> > >>
> > >> I see this:
> > >> http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/haswell-powered-ma
> > >> cbook-pro-retina-models-reportedly-freezing-mavericks-to-blame--1194127
> > >> But it seems specific to the MBP.
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >> http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-m
> > >> ore-frequently-for-some-including-me/
> > >> (but at least in my case it resumes after a bit...)
> > >
> > > Why not have a look at the console and system logs for events around
> > > that time?
> > I did and there's nothing specific enough.  Next time it occurs I'll try 
> > again and immediately.  (Other times I was trying to get other things 
> > done).

The short-term freeze makes me think the refresh is being interrupted by 
something of higher priority.  

When the screen freezes, does the clock in the upper right also freeze? 
I always set my clock to show seconds rather than flash ":" because that 
tells me that something has frozen even the clock interrupt of the 
processor.

Run XRG to show you system resources at a glance.

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/10220/xrg

It will show you what's active during the freeze.  If it's swapping or 
growing the VM swap files or doing disk I/O.  Once the system comes 
back, look at the end /var/log/system.log file with tail.  It will show 
what the OS has logged recently. If nothing shows up, I'm guessing it's 
hardware.  That's the only thing that the OS won't see.

Try switching to a wired mouse.

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