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  FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-15 13:47 -0500
    Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-15 21:20 +0000
      Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-16 11:01 +1300
        Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-16 00:54 +0000
          Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-16 04:15 +0000
        Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-16 14:43 -0500
          Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-17 08:54 +1300
    Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-15 20:04 -0800
      Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-16 14:40 -0500
        Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 02:20 -0500
          Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-21 15:31 +0000
            Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-23 03:19 -0500
    Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart yapersonne@nowhere.com (Henri) - 2013-11-16 11:14 +0100
      Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-16 14:38 -0500
        Re: FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-17 08:54 +1300

#52300 — FruitMenu Replacement for Bret&Bart

I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed, 
which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its 
interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me 
any problem despite being a haxie.

The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:

1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS. 
LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including 
custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.

2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple 
menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired 
item.

3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
supplies.

4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the 
Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies 
you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 

5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.

Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of 
this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!

-- 
Remember, I'm pullin' for ya.
We're all in this together.
                  --Red Green

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#52308

On 2013-11-15, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed, 
> which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its 
> interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me 
> any problem despite being a haxie.
>
> The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
>
> 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS. 
> LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including 
> custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
>
> 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple 
> menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired 
> item.
>
> 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
> supplies.
>
> 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the 
> Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies 
> you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
>
> 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
>
> Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of 
> this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!

It bothered me too at first, but I've long since moved on. There are
many other ways to skin those cats.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#52313

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2013-11-15, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed,
> > which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its
> > interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me
> > any problem despite being a haxie.
> >
> > The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
> >
> > 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS.
> > LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including
> > custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
> >
> > 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple
> > menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired
> > item.
> >
> > 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
> > supplies.
> >
> > 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the
> > Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies
> > you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
> >
> > 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of
> > this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!
> 
> It bothered me too at first, but I've long since moved on. There are
> many other ways to skin those cats.

Aye. But there are alternatives such as Xmenu
<http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>, but it
doesn't do all the above. Still, I just use the Dock myself, with only
the addition via hidden preference of a recent apps folder. Use the
Secrets System Pref. pane to enable this and others.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#52319

In message <1lcfd42.s1w739asnujqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
  Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2013-11-15, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed,
>> > which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its
>> > interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me
>> > any problem despite being a haxie.
>> >
>> > The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
>> >
>> > 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS.
>> > LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including
>> > custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
>> >
>> > 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple
>> > menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired
>> > item.
>> >
>> > 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
>> > supplies.
>> >
>> > 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the
>> > Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies
>> > you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
>> >
>> > 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
>> >
>> > Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of
>> > this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!
>> 
>> It bothered me too at first, but I've long since moved on. There are
>> many other ways to skin those cats.

> Aye. But there are alternatives such as Xmenu
> <http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>, but it
> doesn't do all the above. Still, I just use the Dock myself, with only
> the addition via hidden preference of a recent apps folder. Use the
> Secrets System Pref. pane to enable this and others.

The dock? I have the dock as disabled as I can (it has a long delay on
appearing). Launchbar, still the best utility I've ever bought for any
computer, ever replaces anything the Apple menu in Mac OS ever was able
to do, and much much more.

-- 
'Why is it all Mr Dibbler's films are set against the background of a
world gone mad?' said the dwarf.  Soll's eyes narrowed. 'Because Mr
Dibbler,' he growled, 'is a very observant man.' --Moving Pictures

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#52325

On 2013-11-16, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> Launchbar, still the best utility I've ever bought for any computer,
> ever replaces anything the Apple menu in Mac OS ever was able to do,
> and much much more.

Indeed. Like I said, there are many ways to skin those cats. : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#52363

In article <1lcfd42.s1w739asnujqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2013-11-15, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed,
> > > which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its
> > > interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me
> > > any problem despite being a haxie.
> > >
> > > The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
> > >
> > > 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS.
> > > LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including
> > > custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
> > >
> > > 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple
> > > menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired
> > > item.
> > >
> > > 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
> > > supplies.
> > >
> > > 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the
> > > Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies
> > > you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
> > >
> > > 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of
> > > this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!
> > 
> > It bothered me too at first, but I've long since moved on. There are
> > many other ways to skin those cats.
> 
> Aye. But there are alternatives such as Xmenu
> <http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>, but it
> doesn't do all the above. Still, I just use the Dock myself, with only
> the addition via hidden preference of a recent apps folder. Use the
> Secrets System Pref. pane to enable this and others.

Thanks for the suggestion. If it's anywhere near as good as Devon's 
EasyFind, it's a winner, even though it's limited compared to FruitMenu.

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#52366

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <1lcfd42.s1w739asnujqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2013-11-15, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > > > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed,
> > > > which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its
> > > > interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me
> > > > any problem despite being a haxie.
> > > >
> > > > The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS.
> > > > LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including
> > > > custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple
> > > > menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired
> > > > item.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple
> > > > supplies.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the
> > > > Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies
> > > > you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
> > > >
> > > > 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where
> > > >appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of
> > > > this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!
> > > 
> > > It bothered me too at first, but I've long since moved on. There are
> > > many other ways to skin those cats.
> > 
> > Aye. But there are alternatives such as Xmenu
> > <http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>, but it
> > doesn't do all the above. Still, I just use the Dock myself, with only
> > the addition via hidden preference of a recent apps folder. Use the
> > Secrets System Pref. pane to enable this and others.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. If it's anywhere near as good as Devon's 
> EasyFind, it's a winner, even though it's limited compared to FruitMenu.

Yeah I use EasyFind too :-)
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#52324

In article <fmoore-417378.13471915112013@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed, 
> which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its 
> interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me 
> any problem despite being a haxie.
> 
> The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
> 
> 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS. 
> LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including 
> custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
> 
> 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple 
> menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired 
> item.
> 
> 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
> supplies.
> 
> 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the 
> Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies 
> you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
> 
> 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
> 
> Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of 
> this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!

I gave up on FruitMenu a while ago.  Unfortunately, there isn't anything 
out there that will do everything on your list, so you'll have to 
prioritize.

I use ClassicMenu

http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/

And there's also SunnyMenu, but the developer is no longer around.

http://download.cnet.com/SunnyMenu/3000-2344_4-10780101.html

These do #1 and #3 on your list.  You'll have to live without #2, #4, 
and #5.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#52361

In article <vilain-5EF7B9.20045115112013@news.individual.net>,
 Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-417378.13471915112013@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu, no longer being developed, 
> > which works with 10.9. From the beginning of OS X, I have found its 
> > interface next to unusable without FruitMenu, and it has never given me 
> > any problem despite being a haxie.
> > 
> > The key features of FruitMenu which I'm looking to replace are:
> > 
> > 1. Customize the Apple menu like you could back in the Classic Mac OS. 
> > LOTS of functionality that Apple has never restored to OS X including 
> > custom file, folder, document, and app lists for easy access/launching.
> > 
> > 2. Direct display of each of the various system prefs from the Apple 
> > menu. No need to launch the sys prefs app first, then select the desired 
> > item.
> > 
> > 3. Much better Recent docs, folders, and apps handling than Apple 
> > supplies.
> > 
> > 4. Customize the contextual menus. With FruitMenu you can click on the 
> > Desktop, select More and see most of the extra file and folder goodies 
> > you have added to the Apple menu under items 1-3 above. 
> > 
> > 5. The option to show hidden files in all of the above where appropriate.
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend 10.9-compatible software which can restore most of 
> > this functionality? Thanks very much for your help!
> 
> I gave up on FruitMenu a while ago.  Unfortunately, there isn't anything 
> out there that will do everything on your list, so you'll have to 
> prioritize.
> 
> I use ClassicMenu
> 
> http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/

Unfortunately, it's no longer in development. While it may work, I'd 
prefer something which isn't already on the way to being obsolete.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

> And there's also SunnyMenu, but the developer is no longer around.
> 
> http://download.cnet.com/SunnyMenu/3000-2344_4-10780101.html
> 
> These do #1 and #3 on your list.  You'll have to live without #2, #4, 
> and #5.

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#52470

> > I use ClassicMenu
> > 
> > http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/
> 
> Unfortunately, it's no longer in development. While it may work, I'd 
> prefer something which isn't already on the way to being obsolete.

I also vote for Classic Menu.

While it isn't under development, it works just as well today as when it 
was released.

And it's an app, so it doesn't monkey with the operating system like 
FruitMenu.

Simple, customiable and elegant.  

FPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#52475

In message <fredp151-BA354C.02200721112013@news.eternal-september.org> 
  FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I use ClassicMenu
>> > 
>> > http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/
>> 
>> Unfortunately, it's no longer in development. While it may work, I'd 
>> prefer something which isn't already on the way to being obsolete.

> I also vote for Classic Menu.

I thought Classic Menu broke in 10.7?

> And it's an app, so it doesn't monkey with the operating system like 
> FruitMenu.

Yep. It does disable the built-in Apple menu though (well, you can still
get to the OS level Apple menu via a modifier key).

-- 
Ninety percent of true love is acute, ear-burning embarrassment.  --Wyrd
Sisters

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#52537

In article <slrnl8s9qp.2nqr.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <fredp151-BA354C.02200721112013@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I use ClassicMenu
> >> > 
> >> > http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, it's no longer in development. While it may work, I'd 
> >> prefer something which isn't already on the way to being obsolete.
> 
> > I also vote for Classic Menu.
> 
> I thought Classic Menu broke in 10.7?

I'm running 10.8.4 - and it still works fine.

I have been seeing a strange error message right after the Finder 
launches on ocassion.  I always suspected Classic Menu - but after the 
error message is dismissed, everything works normally.

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#52342

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu

Why don't you try FinderPop ?
HC

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#52359

In article <1lcfduf.fmmhi5kcnsluN%yapersonne@nowhere.com>,
 yapersonne@nowhere.com (Henri) wrote:

> Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu
> 
> Why don't you try FinderPop ?
> HC

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I remember using FinderPop a _long_ 
time ago. Good to see it's still in development. I'll check it out.

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#52367

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <1lcfduf.fmmhi5kcnsluN%yapersonne@nowhere.com>,
>  yapersonne@nowhere.com (Henri) wrote:
> 
> > Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm looking for a replacement for FruitMenu
> > 
> > Why don't you try FinderPop ?
> > HC
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. I think I remember using FinderPop a _long_
> time ago. Good to see it's still in development. I'll check it out.

Funny how I used to rely on and love FinderPop in classic MacOS, but
now... I guess it's a combination of learning to live with the OS X
default UI, and not wanting to repeat the instability of classic MacOS
where I relied on numerous extensions and control panels to have the UI
I desired.

Anyway, it is still around and apparently is fairly good.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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