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Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

Started byANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
First post2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
Last post2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
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  Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:21 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2013-10-27 08:08 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-27 10:10 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-27 14:16 +1300
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-26 21:23 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-27 02:37 +0000
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-26 23:09 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-27 09:31 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 11:00 -0400
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-27 19:49 -0500
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 12:30 -0400
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arviso@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 17:41 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-28 21:52 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 18:03 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-28 16:00 -0700
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 23:03 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 23:39 -0400
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Zaidy036 <Zaidy036NoSpam@optonline.com> - 2013-10-31 07:36 +0000
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 10:30 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when sync(hroniz)ing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 12:21 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 10:20 -0600
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-28 18:15 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 12:31 -0600
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 18:38 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0500
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 18:22 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 20:56 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 23:57 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 00:47 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 02:02 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 21:38 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 19:38 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 00:50 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 22:21 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-30 09:09 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 09:05 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "857" <8571953@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 06:59 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:13 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-29 12:59 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:07 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 11:00 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:22 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 14:53 -0400
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 14:56 -0400
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2013-10-30 21:01 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:28 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:28 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 09:17 -0400
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 15:01 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 13:35 -0400
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:28 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 15:36 -0400
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 01:46 +0000
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-01 22:20 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2013-11-02 08:26 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-02 15:06 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 13:42 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:37 +1100
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 06:24 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 19:32 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 04:48 +1100
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-01 22:45 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-02 12:12 -0400
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:32 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-05 09:13 +1300
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 11:19 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:18 +0100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-11-02 22:49 -0600
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 05:23 +0000
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:02 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 16:08 -0400
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:00 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:28 -0700
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:42 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 08:53 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 17:29 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 09:41 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:33 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:58 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:30 +1100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:23 +1100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:13 -0700
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:24 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 16:32 -0700
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 11:22 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 02:41 +0000
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:51 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:42 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:55 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:53 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:43 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 21:00 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-31 10:01 -0400
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 07:39 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:48 +1100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-06 17:21 -0600
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 19:58 -0700
                                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-07 09:32 -0600
                                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-07 22:03 -0700
                                                    Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-11-08 10:48 -0500
                                                      Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-08 21:34 -0700
                                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-09 10:06 -0600
                                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 20:01 -0700
                                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-09 22:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 21:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-11 09:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2013-11-10 09:49 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:38 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:41 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:08 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:28 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:44 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 17:52 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:28 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:54 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:28 +1100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:08 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:15 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:11 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:22 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 10:22 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:52 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:42 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:17 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:24 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:38 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:53 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 08:34 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:53 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 05:21 +1100
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 12:58 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 05:25 +1100
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-06 12:41 +0100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 04:53 +1100
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:02 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-05 14:08 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2013-10-27 19:34 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 17:07 +0000
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000

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#51839

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-11-04 17:28 +0100
Message-ID<l58hv3$d05$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51504
Am 31.10.2013 18:35, schrieb Davoud:
> Davoud, quoting:
>>> "You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." --Scott McNealy, 1999.
>
> Michael Eyd:
>> That's as stupid a statement as one can find. My opinion. Would he want
>> to live in a house with glass walls, being targeted 24/7 by cameras so
>> that everybody (who cared) could trace his every move? I bet he wouldn't...
>
> "Britain has a CCTV camera for every 11 people, a security industry
> report disclosed..."

They don't target the insides of homes.

> "EU delegation says it will review allegations that Europe spy services
> helped with NSA spying"

And I they will. Whatever the effect may be (there I'm not so optimistic...)

> "...public outcry here recently when it discovered that German state
> investigators were using spying software capable of turning a
> computer¹s webcam and microphone into a sophisticated surveillance
> device."

There was at least an outcry - and it had some effect (if one can at 
least somewhat trust the reports in the media).

> "As It Denounces U.S. Spying, Europe Delays Privacy Protection at Home"
> (NYT, Oct. 29, 2013)

Europe is working on it - and we are already today much better 
concerning data privacy than the US law will (most probably) be in the 
next 20 years.

> You are so naïve!

Oh, am I? Well, if you think so. Perhaps you should rather look into a 
mirror to see somebody naïve...

> There is a parallel universe to the one that you can
> see, and it's a product of Realpolitik in the 21st century. It's worth
> remembering how we got to our state of widespread collection of
> telephone metadata (thank goodness for digital telephony!). The
> planners of the 9/11/2001 attacks against the United States worked for
> several years in Western Europe to plan these attacks. They used
> telephones, e-mail, and other forms of electronic communication without
> being detected. U.S. allies in Western Europe and elsewhere decided
> that they did not want to host such a planning session again. Thus they
> instituted a program of electronic surveillance and a parallel program
> of assisting the U.S. with its SIGINT collection.

Oh, and just because these programs exist mean that there is no 
alternative? Means that it was correct to install them in the first 
place? Means that they have to stay forever, that people cannot learn 
that mistakes were made, and that they have to be corrected?

> Such cooperation in
> this parallel universe is not new; it's only public awareness that has
> changed. It's no more complicated than that.

Nice description of the status-quo. And, what are your conclusions? 
Everything's fine, just continue?

> Persons who think that the
> average citizen of the EU is under electronic surveillance by their own
> or an allied government have been grossly misled, or they are paranoid.

Or you are naïve... Sounds much more realistic to me...

> A number of European countries have arrested and dealt with known or
> suspected terror suspects in the past 10 years or so. You cannot find a
> single instance in which your garden-variety European has had her life
> disrupted by this collection program.No disappearances,

Wrong. There were such cases, like Khaled Al-Masri. Never heard of? You 
might want to check <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri>.

> no raids on
> housewives, no report that Frau Müller's little office affair with Herr
> Weber has been revealed by the BfV.

And what is that supposed to prove? That 'interested parties' don't have 
that information? Or that they (as of today) didn't bother to use it? 
And if so, where is the guarantee that they might not decide differently 
tomorrow, e.g. because Mrs. Mueller is organizing rallies against 
American attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or because Mr. Weber is 
starting to climb the ranks in some German party, voicing opinions the 
'interested parties' don't like? Or ...?

But I see, your motto is 'If you've nothing to hide, you've got nothing 
to fear'.

> As for collection of leadership-level communications, having a spy in
> the leader's circle is as old as history, a time-honored tradiiton,
> business as usual.

Oh, and that makes it right? Stealing is certainly older, slavery is 
older, murder is older. Are they therefore right?

> "...documents at the National Archives in London show how Winston
> Churchill was sent a report on a 1940 private phone call between
> President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Secretary of State Cordell Hull, and
> Joe Kennedy, the U.S. ambassador to London, during which they discussed
> options 'if Europe is overrun' by Nazi Germany."
>
> OK, enough time wasted. Got to update Contacts and Calendar, which will
> immediately go into the iCloud and propagate to my other Apple devices.

Be my guest.

Best regards,

Michael

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#51511

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
Message-ID<l4u8n0$7n4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51488
Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
> 
> : *Some* of my data is already in the cloud (though hardly at a single
> provider, at least not one I asked to collect it), no doubt. But there is
> other information that I deliberately chose not to put on the cloud or on
> any server in the internet. But if my only chance of syncing and backing
> up my iDevices would be through iCloud, this information would go to
> servers beyond my control - and I certainly don't like that idea.
> 
I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
the data I don't choose to have out there.
>
> 
> 


-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#51522

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2013-10-31 15:36 -0400
Message-ID<311020131536088986%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#51511
In article <l4u8n0$7n4$1@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> > : *Some* of my data is already in the cloud (though hardly at a single
> > provider, at least not one I asked to collect it), no doubt. But there is
> > other information that I deliberately chose not to put on the cloud or on
> > any server in the internet. But if my only chance of syncing and backing
> > up my iDevices would be through iCloud, this information would go to
> > servers beyond my control - and I certainly don't like that idea.
> > 
> I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
> the data I don't choose to have out there.

you can sync some stuff privately, just not all.

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#51603

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-11-02 01:46 +0000
Message-ID<l51lhv$216$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51522
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <l4u8n0$7n4$1@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>>>> *Some* of my data is already in the cloud (though hardly at a single
>>> provider, at least not one I asked to collect it), no doubt. But there is
>>> other information that I deliberately chose not to put on the cloud or on
>>> any server in the internet. But if my only chance of syncing and backing
>>> up my iDevices would be through iCloud, this information would go to
>>> servers beyond my control - and I certainly don't like that idea.
>>> 
>> I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
>> the data I don't choose to have out there.
> 
> you can sync some stuff privately, just not all.

Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#51604

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-11-01 22:20 -0400
Message-ID<011120132220348049%star@sky.net>
In reply to#51603
Erilar:
> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?

Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled by persons
who are bound to plunder your data?

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#51615

FromBeli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl>
Date2013-11-02 08:26 +0100
Message-ID<021120130826099652%baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl>
In reply to#51604
In article <011120132220348049%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> Erilar:
> > Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?
> 
> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled by persons
> who are bound to plunder your data?

http://tinyurl.com/jwzxh77

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-infiltrates-li
nks-to-yahoo-google-data-centers-worldwide-snowden-documents-say/2013/10
/30/e51d661e-4166-11e3-8b74-d89d714ca4dd_story.html

http://tinyurl.com/mv7bker

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57610342-83/apple-google-microsoft-unit
e-against-nsa-spying-program/

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#51642

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-11-02 15:06 -0400
Message-ID<021120131506441068%star@sky.net>
In reply to#51615
Erilar:
> > > Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?

Davoud:
> > Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled by persons
> > who are bound to plunder your data?

Beli:
> http://oldnewsaboutnsa-blah-blah

That's OK, NSA isn't a problem, because they aren't targeting me or
reading my communications. It's ironic that Google should be up in arms
about NSA. It was Google that trespassed on my private street to
photograph my house, and that attempted to break into my wireless
networks at the same time. If I /had/ to trust Google or NSA I would
choose NSA because I know what their motives are, and they don't
involve me.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#51617

FromMxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-02 13:42 +0100
Message-ID<ros9799cvlj55v9c4hqsn3001lv7d96mnn@4ax.com>
In reply to#51604
Davoud writes:

> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled by persons
> who are bound to plunder your data?

They are not controlled by you, which means that they are not private.

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#51641

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-03 05:37 +1100
Message-ID<bdkv4hFoud6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51617
Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote 
> Davoud wrote
 
>> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled 
>> by persons who are bound to plunder your data?
 
> They are not controlled by you, 

They can be. 

> which means that they are not private.

They are if what they see has been encrypted before they see it.  

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#51728

FromMxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-03 06:24 +0100
Message-ID<4gnb79hafqeom67emmuas2bt4u8796mraf@4ax.com>
In reply to#51641
Rod Speed writes:

> They can be. 

Only if the server is in your home and you own it, which defeats the purpose
of a cloud (almost).

> They are if what they see has been encrypted before they see it.  

And how do you know if that is the case?

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#51740

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-03 19:32 +1100
Message-ID<bdmg2kF3t2uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51728
Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote 
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote 
>>> Davoud wrote
 
>> They can be. 

Will you STOP this stupid quoting. 

It's a complete fucking pain in the arse having to go back to what 
you quoted from so I can see what that comment was about. 

Here is what you should have included in the quoting
 
>>>> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled 
>>>> by persons who are bound to plunder your data?
 
>>> They are not controlled by you, 

>> They can be. 
 
> Only if the server is in your home and you own it, 

It doesn't have to be in your home to be completely secure. 

And you don't have to own it for it to be completely secure either. 

> which defeats the purpose of a cloud (almost).

Like hell it does. 

>>> which means that they are not private.
 
>> They are if what they see has been encrypted before they see it.  
 
> And how do you know if that is the case?

By encrypting it yourself before you put it in the cloud.  

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#51623

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
Message-ID<l532mn$5h2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51604
Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> Erilar:
>> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?
> 
> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled by persons
> who are bound to plunder your data?


Are they hacker-proof?  Don't be silly!
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#51637

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-03 04:48 +1100
Message-ID<bdks90FoabqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51623
Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote
> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote
>> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote

>>> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?

>> Dunno. Are remote servers ipso facto insecure, or controlled
>> by persons who are bound to plunder your data?

> Are they hacker-proof?

Doesn’t matter if what they see is encrypted before they see it.
 

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#51606

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2013-11-01 22:45 -0400
Message-ID<011120132245558909%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#51603
In article <l51lhv$216$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> >> I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
> >> the data I don't choose to have out there.
> > 
> > you can sync some stuff privately, just not all.
> 
> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?

you skip the cloud for what you want to keep private.

the problem is that calendars and contacts must go through the cloud.

other stuff can skip the cloud and go over usb.

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#51622

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
Message-ID<l532mm$5h2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51606
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <l51lhv$216$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>>>> I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
>>>> the data I don't choose to have out there.
>>> 
>>> you can sync some stuff privately, just not all.
>> 
>> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?
> 
> you skip the cloud for what you want to keep private.
> 
> the problem is that calendars and contacts must go through the cloud.
> 
> other stuff can skip the cloud and go over usb.

From what Ive been reading here, the new stuff won't allow any USB sync
whatsoever.  Is this true or not?
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#51629

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2013-11-02 12:12 -0400
Message-ID<021120131212302604%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#51622
In article <l532mm$5h2$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> >>>> I agree.  If I can't back up/sync privately, I'll have to delete some of
> >>>> the data I don't choose to have out there.
> >>> 
> >>> you can sync some stuff privately, just not all.
> >> 
> >> Since when is there anything really private about the cloud?
> > 
> > you skip the cloud for what you want to keep private.
> > 
> > the problem is that calendars and contacts must go through the cloud.
> > 
> > other stuff can skip the cloud and go over usb.
> 
> From what Ive been reading here, the new stuff won't allow any USB sync
> whatsoever.  Is this true or not?

completely false.

calendars & contacts no longer have usb syncing in mavericks. other
stuff does.

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#51840

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-11-04 17:32 +0100
Message-ID<l58i7k$d05$2@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51629
Am 02.11.2013 17:12, schrieb nospam:

> calendars & contacts no longer have usb syncing in mavericks.

What about the (local) WiFi sync that iTunes implemented a few years ago 
(if I understood this concept correctly, never used it so far)? If this 
still available in Mavericks or did they kill that as well?

> other stuff does.

That's at least something... :-)

Best regards,

Michael

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#51851

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2013-11-05 09:13 +1300
Message-ID<1lbuu5i.1xuz3rj1lj4qepN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#51840
Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:

> Am 02.11.2013 17:12, schrieb nospam:
> 
> > calendars & contacts no longer have usb syncing in mavericks.
> 
> What about the (local) WiFi sync that iTunes implemented a few years ago
> (if I understood this concept correctly, never used it so far)? If this
> still available in Mavericks or did they kill that as well?

WiFi syncing is still there, but it has the same limitation as USB
syncing: it cannot be used to sync contacts & calendars any more in
Mavericks. Other content (music, podcasts, photos, etc.) still sync fine
via WiFi.

If you want to sync contacts & calendars, you need to use iCloud,
Google, an Exchange server, some other CalDAV/CardDAV service, or roll
your own server.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#51873

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-11-05 11:19 +0100
Message-ID<l5agn1$k0n$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51851
Am 04.11.2013 21:13, schrieb David Empson:
> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 02.11.2013 17:12, schrieb nospam:
>>
>>> calendars & contacts no longer have usb syncing in mavericks.
>>
>> What about the (local) WiFi sync that iTunes implemented a few years ago
>> (if I understood this concept correctly, never used it so far)? If this
>> still available in Mavericks or did they kill that as well?
>
> WiFi syncing is still there, but it has the same limitation as USB
> syncing: it cannot be used to sync contacts & calendars any more in
> Mavericks. Other content (music, podcasts, photos, etc.) still sync fine
> via WiFi.
>
> If you want to sync contacts & calendars, you need to use iCloud,
> Google, an Exchange server, some other CalDAV/CardDAV service, or roll
> your own server.

Thanks for the clarification! :-)

Michael

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#51886

Fromspamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane)
Date2013-11-05 18:18 +0100
Message-ID<1lbvk1s.nb0epj12umj00N@marc.my-fqdn.de>
In reply to#51840
Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote:
> Am 02.11.2013 17:12, schrieb nospam:

>> calendars & contacts no longer have usb syncing in mavericks. 
> What about the (local) WiFi sync that iTunes implemented a few years ago
> (if I understood this concept correctly, never used it so far)? If this
> still available in Mavericks or did they kill that as well?

They didn't kill "USB connections". You can still connect your iDevice
and get e.g. photos into iPhoto...

What they killed, is the "local synch framework". Regardless if via USB
or WiFi.

-- 
In a world without walls and fences,
   who needs windows and gates?

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