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Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

Started byANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
First post2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
Last post2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
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  Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:21 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2013-10-27 08:08 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-27 10:10 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-27 14:16 +1300
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-26 21:23 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-27 02:37 +0000
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-26 23:09 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-27 09:31 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 11:00 -0400
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-27 19:49 -0500
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 12:30 -0400
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arviso@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 17:41 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-28 21:52 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 18:03 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-28 16:00 -0700
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 23:03 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 23:39 -0400
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Zaidy036 <Zaidy036NoSpam@optonline.com> - 2013-10-31 07:36 +0000
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 10:30 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when sync(hroniz)ing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 12:21 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 10:20 -0600
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-28 18:15 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 12:31 -0600
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 18:38 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0500
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 18:22 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 20:56 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 23:57 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 00:47 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 02:02 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 21:38 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 19:38 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 00:50 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 22:21 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-30 09:09 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 09:05 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "857" <8571953@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 06:59 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:13 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-29 12:59 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:07 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 11:00 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:22 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 14:53 -0400
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 14:56 -0400
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2013-10-30 21:01 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:28 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:28 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 09:17 -0400
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 15:01 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 13:35 -0400
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:28 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 15:36 -0400
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 01:46 +0000
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-01 22:20 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2013-11-02 08:26 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-02 15:06 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 13:42 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:37 +1100
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 06:24 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 19:32 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 04:48 +1100
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-01 22:45 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-02 12:12 -0400
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:32 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-05 09:13 +1300
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 11:19 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:18 +0100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-11-02 22:49 -0600
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 05:23 +0000
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:02 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 16:08 -0400
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:00 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:28 -0700
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:42 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 08:53 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 17:29 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 09:41 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:33 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:58 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:30 +1100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:23 +1100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:13 -0700
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:24 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 16:32 -0700
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 11:22 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 02:41 +0000
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:51 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:42 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:55 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:53 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:43 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 21:00 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-31 10:01 -0400
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 07:39 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:48 +1100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-06 17:21 -0600
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 19:58 -0700
                                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-07 09:32 -0600
                                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-07 22:03 -0700
                                                    Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-11-08 10:48 -0500
                                                      Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-08 21:34 -0700
                                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-09 10:06 -0600
                                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 20:01 -0700
                                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-09 22:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 21:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-11 09:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2013-11-10 09:49 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:38 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:41 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:08 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:28 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:44 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 17:52 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:28 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:54 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:28 +1100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:08 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:15 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:11 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:22 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 10:22 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:52 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:42 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:17 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:24 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:38 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:53 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 08:34 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:53 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 05:21 +1100
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 12:58 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 05:25 +1100
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-06 12:41 +0100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 04:53 +1100
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:02 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-05 14:08 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2013-10-27 19:34 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 17:07 +0000
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000

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#51514

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
Message-ID<l4u8n3$7n4$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51375
Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> Davoud:
).
> 
...
> 
> Google, Microsoft, Adobe, and a host of others have
> failed to secure the data they store. You /cannot/ use the Internet
> without exposing yourself to certain risks.

Which is why there are certain things I do not use the internet for.  Also
why my dog has a Facebook page and I, at least publicly, do not 8-)



-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#51722

FromTodd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com>
Date2013-11-02 22:49 -0600
Message-ID<l54kl1$b97$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#51360
At 30 Oct 2013 11:00:35 -0400 Davoud wrote:


> The talk of setting up one's own cloud is terribly amusing, a lovely
> childrens fantasy. Anyone who can set up a remote server that is more
> secure than the best that industry can offer could hire themselves out
> for a great deal of money.


You would have security through obscurity.  Gmail, Outlook.com, iCloud,
Facebook, et al, are big, fat targets because of the myriad of data about
millions of individuals they contain.

A CardDAV server hosted at "davoud.com" (or at your IP address itself
with no name server reference) would be so far off the radar, nobody
would be looking for it.

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#51727

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-11-03 05:23 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl7bne0.ei9.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#51722
In message <l54kl1$b97$1@dont-email.me> 
  Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> At 30 Oct 2013 11:00:35 -0400 Davoud wrote:


>> The talk of setting up one's own cloud is terribly amusing, a lovely
>> childrens fantasy. Anyone who can set up a remote server that is more
>> secure than the best that industry can offer could hire themselves out
>> for a great deal of money.

Not true, it is very easy to setup a remote server that is completely
immune to spying. It is hard to do that when the server has to serve
multiple people in multiple locations. But it is possible to be immune
to MITM attacks.

For example, my ssh login to my server across town uses a public/private
key pair. The private key is *only* on my local computers and has never
travelled over the Internet in anyway. Because of that, my ssh
connection to that machine is secure.

This is not a viable solution for most users.

However, there are technologies like PFS that will secure the Internet
against the NSA. The US Government was terrified of the so-called 'dark
net' but they have done more than anyone to ensure it. In a few years
the technology will be in place so that everyone on the Internet is not
only encrypted and secure, but it *cannot* be decrypted by anyone
outside of the specific transaction.

> A CardDAV server hosted at "davoud.com" (or at your IP address itself
> with no name server reference) would be so far off the radar, nobody
> would be looking for it.

And even if they were, if you put it behind https and did it right, it
would be impervious to eavesdropping without a court order compelling you
to give up your ssl keys.

But in a few years, even that won't work. PFS and deniable encryption
are coming.


-- 
And she was drifting through the backyard
And she was taking off her dress
And she was moving very slowly
Rising up above the earth

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#51882

Fromspamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane)
Date2013-11-05 18:02 +0100
Message-ID<1lbvizt.1bxfsri1xr41vhN@marc.my-fqdn.de>
In reply to#51083
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> If Akruto Sync or Companion Link for
> Outlook/Windows filling the void in the Windows Phone/Android ecosystems
> is any indication, this might help bolster the market for easy-to-use
> "private cloud" apps for home computers that might convince more folks to
> re-examine their blind faith in the cloud products from Apple, MS, and
> Google and at least taking a second look at the risks/rewards/benefits of
> cloud services vs. using local servers for PIM, media, etc.

Nope. Can't beat Mavericks Server for 17,99... That market is taken.

-- 
In a world without walls and fences,
   who needs windows and gates?

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#51092

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-10-28 16:08 -0400
Message-ID<281020131608171168%star@sky.net>
In reply to#51080
Michael Eyd: 
> And I think that there are still many people out there (many more than 
> you think), that would rather not put anything into any cloud - least 
> any private information.

Wow! That means no web surfing, no e-mail, no USENET, no Internet full
stop--because it all puts personal stuff on the the remote servers that
we have come to call "the cloud."

> Might be different in the US, but in Europe 
> e.g. mentalities may differ quite a lot from the ones in the US. And the 
> latest discussions about the NSA (and others) spying on basically 
> everybody don't help here either...

Everybody? Really? Europeans are so poor at basic arithmetic that they
think that NSA can spy on /everybody/ ? Or Europeans' egos are so
puffed up that they think (hope?) that they are important enough to
draw the attention of the U.S. Intelligence Community? Wrong again.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#51173

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-10-29 11:00 +0100
Message-ID<l4o0va$4kg$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51092
Am 28.10.2013 21:08, schrieb Davoud:
> Michael Eyd:
>> And I think that there are still many people out there (many more than
>> you think), that would rather not put anything into any cloud - least
>> any private information.
>
> Wow! That means no web surfing, no e-mail, no USENET, no Internet full
> stop--because it all puts personal stuff on the the remote servers that
> we have come to call "the cloud."
>
>> Might be different in the US, but in Europe
>> e.g. mentalities may differ quite a lot from the ones in the US. And the
>> latest discussions about the NSA (and others) spying on basically
>> everybody don't help here either...
>
> Everybody? Really? Europeans are so poor at basic arithmetic that they
> think that NSA can spy on /everybody/ ? Or Europeans' egos are so
> puffed up that they think (hope?) that they are important enough to
> draw the attention of the U.S. Intelligence Community? Wrong again.

You may continue to make fun of this topic - but be aware that one day 
you might wake up in a world that you always thought was not possible to 
come true.

And believe me, NSA *is* capable (quantitywise) of collecting all the 
information they can get their hands on. Regardless of what they might 
tell the public... Whether my data (or your data) is part of this 
collection is not so much my concern, I'm already concerned more than 
enough about it *possibly* being part of it.

But I guess you will not understand these concerns, because you never 
read '1984', you never lived in a country that had experienced in its 
last 100 years two dictatorships, both making use of very effective 
secret services as well against internal 'enemies', ...

But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists. Ah, could you please remind 
me in exactly which terrorist plots the German chancellor, the French 
prime minister and ~30 high ranking politicians from around the world 
were involved? Momentarily slipped my memory...

So much for 'We're only after the bad guys...' :-(

Best regards, and keep on dreaming,

Michael

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#51180

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-29 06:28 -0700
Message-ID<291020130628514487%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51173
In article <l4o0va$4kg$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
wrote:

> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists. 

No one ever claimed that.

> Ah, could you please remind me in exactly which terrorist plots the
> German chancellor, the French prime minister and ~30 high ranking
> politicians from around the world were involved? Momentarily slipped
> my memory..

The NSA's mission is to collect signals intelligence from both allies,
enemies, potential enemies, and neutral parties in order to further the
political and military interests of the United States.  (Those are my
words, not the official mission statement, but I'm quite accurate in my
assessment.)  Knowing what an ally would do in a given situation helps
the US determine what it would do.  If we knew, for instance, that
Germany would not back us up if we took a given action might cause us
not to take that action; however, if we knew that Germany would back us
up, it would help decide to take that action.

> So much for 'We're only after the bad guys...' :-(

We never said that.

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#51194

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-10-29 16:42 +0100
Message-ID<l4ol20$s3u$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51180
Am 29.10.2013 14:28, schrieb Michelle Steiner:
> In article <l4o0va$4kg$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
> wrote:
>
>> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.
>
> No one ever claimed that.

US officials did. Might not have been in the US media, but it was over 
here in Europe, Germany in particular.

>> Ah, could you please remind me in exactly which terrorist plots the
>> German chancellor, the French prime minister and ~30 high ranking
>> politicians from around the world were involved? Momentarily slipped
>> my memory..
>
> The NSA's mission is to collect signals intelligence from both allies,
> enemies, potential enemies, and neutral parties in order to further the
> political and military interests of the United States.  (Those are my
> words, not the official mission statement, but I'm quite accurate in my
> assessment.)  Knowing what an ally would do in a given situation helps
> the US determine what it would do.  If we knew, for instance, that
> Germany would not back us up if we took a given action might cause us
> not to take that action; however, if we knew that Germany would back us
> up, it would help decide to take that action.
>
>> So much for 'We're only after the bad guys...' :-(
>
> We never said that.

US officials did. Might not have been in the US media, but it was over 
here in Europe, Germany in particular.

And believe me, I know what the services want to achieve - this is 
completely independent from the country they belong to. Nevertheless, it 
is a question they should continuously ask themselves whether everything 
they can should be done by them. E.g. spying on high(est)-ranking 
politicians from close allies. E.g. tapping into the phone calls of 
high(est)-ranking politicians from close allies. ...

They should always consider the harm done if this gets public (as it now 
has), and the loss in trust the US has to bear by that.

Or, to put it the other way around: What would you say, what would POTUS 
say if the German (or French or Spanish or ...) secret service tapped 
into his phone calls, noticing who he was talking to, possibly even 
listening to every word said? I really wouldn't expect that anybody in 
the US would take that lightheartedly... ;-)

No, from my point of view here the US definitively went to far in their 
attempt to gather as much information as possible. Sorry, but Keith 
Alexander (and many others) seems to have lost track who is friend and 
who is foe.

Best regards,

Michael

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#51196

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-29 08:53 -0700
Message-ID<291020130853217849%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51194
In article <l4ol20$s3u$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
wrote:

> >> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.
> >
> > No one ever claimed that.
> 
> US officials did. 

No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying that they did
are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.

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#51204

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-10-29 17:29 +0100
Message-ID<l4onpk$1cl$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#51196
Am 29.10.2013 16:53, schrieb Michelle Steiner:
> In article <l4ol20$s3u$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
> wrote:
>
>>>> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.
>>>
>>> No one ever claimed that.
>>
>> US officials did.
>
> No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying that they did
> are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.

Ok, if you feel that the video at 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Kc5Xvr24Aw> is 
a fabrication, be my guest. But I'd say that Keith Alexander is actually 
a quite high-ranking US official and that the video looks pretty 
original to me.

That Alexander claims to protect at the same time civil rights and 
privacy is no more than a claim to me, and not a very likely one seeing 
that they routinely violate civil rights and privacy of people known to 
have no connection to terrorism whatsoever.

Best regards,

Michael

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#51205

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-29 09:41 -0700
Message-ID<291020130941203239%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51204
In article <l4onpk$1cl$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
wrote:

> > No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying that they did
> > are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.
> 
> Ok, if you feel that the video at 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Kc5Xvr24Aw> is 
> a fabrication, be my guest.

At what point in that 32-minute video does he say that the NSA aims
only at terrorists?  I do not have the time nor the patience to sit
through the whole thing.

Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst"; I did
not say they are all fabrications.

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#51249

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 08:33 +1100
Message-ID<bdao8bFkc5pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51205
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote
>> Michelle Steiner wrote
>>> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote

>>>>>> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.

>>>>> No one ever claimed that.

>>>> US officials did.

>>> No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying 
>>> that they did are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.

>> Ok, if you feel that the video at 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Kc5Xvr24Aw> 
>> is a fabrication, be my guest.
 
> At what point in that 32-minute video does 
> he say that the NSA aims only at terrorists?  
> I do not have the time nor the patience to sit
> through the whole thing.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. 
 
> Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst"; 
> I did not say they are all fabrications.

You clearly said that they were either distortions or fabrications. 

Yes, Alexander's claim is both. You lied, again.  

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#51260

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-29 15:58 -0700
Message-ID<291020131558223558%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51249
In article <bdao8bFkc5pU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst"; 
> > I did not say they are all fabrications.
> 
> You clearly said that they were either distortions or fabrications. 

Prove otherwise.

> Yes, Alexander's claim is both. You lied, again.  

Prove otherwise.

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#51285

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 12:30 +1100
Message-ID<bdb5qkFn0cdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51260
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
 
>>> Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst"; 
>>> I did not say they are all fabrications.
 
>> You clearly said that they were either distortions or fabrications. 
 
> Prove otherwise.

Prove what otherwise. You clearly did say 
that in the quoting you carefully deleted. 
 
>> Yes, Alexander's claim is both. You lied, again.  
 
> Prove otherwise.

YOU made the stupid claim. 

YOU get to do the proving. 

THAT'S how it works.  

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#51306

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
Message-ID<291020132314279276%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51285
In article <bdb5qkFn0cdU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst"; 
> >>> I did not say they are all fabrications.
>  
> >> You clearly said that they were either distortions or fabrications. 
>  
> > Prove otherwise.
> 
> Prove what otherwise. You clearly did say 
> that in the quoting you carefully deleted. 

In case you didn't notice, I quoted what I had written in the deleted
portion; therefore, the deletion is irrelevant.  But I guess that to a
binary thinker like you, there cannot be a spectrum between "at best"
and "at worst", and those can be the the only two options.  So I'll
chalk it up to your limited cognitive capabilities rather than to a
deliberate lie on your part.

> >> Yes, Alexander's claim is both. You lied, again.  
>  
> > Prove otherwise.
> 
> YOU made the stupid claim. 
> 
> YOU get to do the proving. 
> 
> THAT'S how it works.  

YOU made the claim about Alexander's claim, therefore YOU get to do the
proving.  And THAT is HOW IT WORKS!

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#51365

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-31 03:23 +1100
Message-ID<bdcq4bF2s3qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51306
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote

>>>>> Note that I said "distortions at best and fabrications at worst";
>>>>> I did not say they are all fabrications.

>>>> You clearly said that they were either distortions or fabrications.

>>> Prove otherwise.

>> Prove what otherwise. You clearly did say
>> that in the quoting you carefully deleted.

> In case you didn't notice, I quoted what I had written in the deleted 
> portion;

Another lie. You in fact quoted only a small part of what you actually said.

> therefore, the deletion is irrelevant.

Another bare faced lie.

> But I guess that to a binary thinker like you,

Another bare faced lie.

> there cannot be a spectrum between "at best" and
> "at worst", and those can be the the only two options.

Guess again.

> So I'll chalk it up to your limited cognitive capabilities

Another bare faced lie.

> rather than to a deliberate lie on your part.

>>>> Yes, Alexander's claim is both. You lied, again.

>>> Prove otherwise.

>> YOU made the stupid claim.

>> YOU get to do the proving.

>> THAT'S how it works.

> YOU made the claim about Alexander's claim, therefore
> YOU get to do the proving.  And THAT is HOW IT WORKS!

You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.

Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode... 

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#51370

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-30 10:13 -0700
Message-ID<301020131013471693%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51365
In article <bdcq4bF2s3qU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode... 

Bull dykes don't shriek, you faggot.  Besides, you are shrieking enough
for everyone here; no one else needs to do it.

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#51407

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-31 10:24 +1100
Message-ID<bddiqvF85p4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51370
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
 
>> Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode... 

And that is precisely what he did, right on cue. 

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#51409

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-30 16:32 -0700
Message-ID<301020131632546751%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51407
In article <bddiqvF85p4U1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>  
> >> Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode... 
> 
> And that is precisely what he did, right on cue. 

There's a three-alarm response to extinguish the flames on your pants,
you homophobic mother-fucking liar.  Crawl back under your rock.

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#51424

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-31 11:22 +1100
Message-ID<bddme4F8raiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51409
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
  
>>>> Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode... 
 
>> And that is precisely what he did, right on cue. 
 
And then did it again, right on cue. 
 

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