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  Mail Oddity TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2012-08-22 22:48 -0500
    Re: Mail Oddity Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 22:15 -0700
      Re: Mail Oddity TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2012-08-23 01:37 -0500
      Re: Mail Oddity John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-23 07:51 -0400
    Re: Mail Oddity dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-23 16:07 +1000
    Re: Mail Oddity Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:08 -0700
    Re: Mail Oddity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-23 18:19 -0400

#29939 — Mail Oddity

I have been a  long, long time user of Apple Mail and a couple days ago 
things went wonky. I  couldn't receive or send any mail and I couldn't 
force quit Mail. After quite a few frustrating hours I lugged my iMac 
to the Genius Bar at a local Apple store. The genius first ran a 
diagnostic program, one that I had never encountered and one that I'm 
assuming is new. Then doing quite a few things, things I couldn't 
follow, he got Mail to work. An interesting thing is that some of the 
interface features are different than the Mail I was running, a version 
which I assume to have been the latest as I run Software Update about 
once every other day. The current version, the one installed by the 
genius, is 6.0 (1485). Unfortunately I have no record what the 
preceding version was. Anyhowz, all is now well. At first, when I got 
home, I was quite concerned as there were some 47,000 files in my 
trash. I performed a SuperDuper! backup and then deleted the trash. 
Afterwards I did some checking at it appears that all of my saved 
messages, which date back to 2000, are indeed still there. This has 
been an interesting experience with a happy ending!

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#29940

In article <a9lnfiFqjgU1@mid.individual.net>,
 TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:

> The current version, the one installed by the genius, is 6.0 (1485). 

Are you running Mountain Lion?  I have mail.app version 5.2, running Lion 
10.7.4.

-- Michelle

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#29943

On 2012-08-23 05:15:13 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <a9lnfiFqjgU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> The current version, the one installed by the genius, is 6.0 (1485).
> 
> Are you running Mountain Lion?  I have mail.app version 5.2, running Lion
> 10.7.4.
> 
> -- Michelle

Yup, I'm runnning Mountain Lion.

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#29946

In article <michelle-F9CDB5.22151322082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <a9lnfiFqjgU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> 
> > The current version, the one installed by the genius, is 6.0 (1485). 
> 
> Are you running Mountain Lion?  I have mail.app version 5.2, running Lion 
> 10.7.4.
> 
> -- Michelle

I'm on ML everything on my Mac Is up to date. Mail is v6 (1486).

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#29942

In article <a9lnfiFqjgU1@mid.individual.net>,
 TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:

> I have been a  long, long time user of Apple Mail and a couple days ago 
> things went wonky. I  couldn't receive or send any mail and I couldn't 
> force quit Mail. After quite a few frustrating hours I lugged my iMac 
> to the Genius Bar at a local Apple store. The genius first ran a 
> diagnostic program, one that I had never encountered and one that I'm 
> assuming is new. Then doing quite a few things, things I couldn't 
> follow, he got Mail to work. An interesting thing is that some of the 
> interface features are different than the Mail I was running, a version 
> which I assume to have been the latest as I run Software Update about 
> once every other day. The current version, the one installed by the 
> genius, is 6.0 (1485). Unfortunately I have no record what the 
> preceding version was. Anyhowz, all is now well. At first, when I got 
> home, I was quite concerned as there were some 47,000 files in my 
> trash. I performed a SuperDuper! backup and then deleted the trash. 
> Afterwards I did some checking at it appears that all of my saved 
> messages, which date back to 2000, are indeed still there. This has 
> been an interesting experience with a happy ending!

Sometimes, doing nothing and coming back later works! It is sometimes 
the case that server people are fiddling about on a mail server or it 
is down. One of my domain hosts sometimes changes passwords without 
telling me. It always amazes me. It would never happen on the planet I 
come from.

-- 
dorayme

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#29950

TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> writes:

> I have been a  long, long time user of Apple Mail and a couple days
> ago things went wonky. I  couldn't receive or send any mail and I
> couldn't force quit Mail. After quite a few frustrating hours I lugged
> my iMac to the Genius Bar at a local Apple store. The genius first ran
> a diagnostic program, one that I had never encountered and one that
> I'm assuming is new. Then doing quite a few things, things I couldn't
> follow, he got Mail to work. An interesting thing is that some of the
> interface features are different than the Mail I was running, a
> version which I assume to have been the latest as I run Software
> Update about once every other day.

It may be that he changed the preferences on Mail (either accidentally
or on purpose) so that it _looks_ different, but is still the same
piece of software.

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#29969

On 2012-08-22 23:48 , TaliesinSoft wrote:
> I have been a  long, long time user of Apple Mail and a couple days ago
> things went wonky. I  couldn't receive or send any mail and I couldn't
> force quit Mail. After quite a few frustrating hours I lugged my iMac to
> the Genius Bar at a local Apple store. The genius first ran a diagnostic
> program, one that I had never encountered and one that I'm assuming is
> new. Then doing quite a few things, things I couldn't follow, he got
> Mail to work. An interesting thing is that some of the interface
> features are different than the Mail I was running, a version which I
> assume to have been the latest as I run Software Update about once every
> other day. The current version, the one installed by the genius, is 6.0
> (1485). Unfortunately I have no record what the preceding version was.
> Anyhowz, all is now well. At first, when I got home, I was quite
> concerned as there were some 47,000 files in my trash. I performed a
> SuperDuper! backup and then deleted the trash. Afterwards I did some
> checking at it appears that all of my saved messages, which date back to
> 2000, are indeed still there. This has been an interesting experience
> with a happy ending!

Is that under ML or L?

Probably not related, but whenever I notice mail slowing down (less than 
1 / yr.) I do:

      Quit Mail (in your case, re-start after making sure Mail
      is not loaded at start in your Login prefs).

             sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/Envelope\ Index vacuum

      Restart Mail.

That at least makes it immediately snappy quick.

May not apply to your issue, however.

I'm still on 5.1 (1278) under ML.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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