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| Started by | David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-03 13:59 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-11 19:45 +0100 |
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Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-05-03 13:59 -0400
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-03 19:23 +0000
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 16:10 -0400
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-03 16:06 -0400
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-05-03 15:16 -0500
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-03 17:26 -0500
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-03 19:10 -0400
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-04 12:51 +1200
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-04 08:58 -0500
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-10 12:39 +0200
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-10 08:43 -0500
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-10 11:33 -0400
Re: Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-11 19:45 +0100
| From | David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 13:59 -0400 |
| Subject | Phishing attempt, supposedly from Apple |
| Message-ID | <dfritzin-739CDE.13590003052014@news.eternal-september.org> |
Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest security platform here. Your privacy and protection is our concern. Apple Support". If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds of personal information, including your credit card number and security code, mother's maiden name, etc.
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 19:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lk3fnm$7fc$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #59130 |
David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> writes:
> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to
> secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest
> security platform here.
> Your privacy and protection is our concern.
> Apple Support".
>
Beware of people writing in English that obviously don't know it well.
> If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just
> looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds
> of personal information, including your credit card number and security
> code, mother's maiden name, etc.
And, feel free to enter bogus/insulting/etc data here. Heh.
Billy Y..
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 16:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dPidnQE5nIyB0PjOnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #59131 |
On 2014.05.03, 15:23 , billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>
> And, feel free to enter bogus/insulting/etc data here. Heh.
I do that manually on occasion when sufficiently moved - but perhaps I
need to set up an autofill to do it.
--
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
-Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 16:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u-udnVLT_pzf0fjOnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #59130 |
On 2014.05.03, 13:59 , David Fritzinger wrote:
> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the
> email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to
> secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest
> security platform here.
> Your privacy and protection is our concern.
> Apple Support".
I get 2 or 3 per day of these. They come in English, French, German,
Italian, Spanish and various eastern European languages. I open the odd
one for potential entertainment (filling the fields with comments about
their mother and so in occasionally therapeutic).
Mainly I ignore and delete them.
--
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
-Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 15:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlmajlh.imb.timmcn@sugaree.local> |
| In reply to | #59130 |
On Sat, 03 May 2014 13:59:00 -0400, David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote: > Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing > email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the > email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive > to secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest > security platform here. Your privacy and protection is our concern. > Apple Support". So, not native English speakers then...
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 17:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <CF8AD75D.AA81C%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #59130 |
On 5/3/14 12:59 PM, in article dfritzin-739CDE.13590003052014@news.eternal-september.org, "David Fritzinger" <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote: > Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing > email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. The subject of the > email is: "Important Notification", and the content is: "As we strive to > secure your account, please be informed to upgrade to our latest > security platform here. > Your privacy and protection is our concern. > Apple Support". > > If you go to the site by clicking "here" (no, I didn't do that-I just > looked at the preview in Mail), you will see that they ask for all kinds > of personal information, including your credit card number and security > code, mother's maiden name, etc. Yep, I got the same damn thing. Promptly marked it a s-h-i-t and went on my way. If they don't have my name, f--k em...
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-03 19:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #59130 |
On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: > Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing > email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and doesn't have a "view source" option. "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email doesn't come from aol for instance),
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-04 12:51 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <040520141251437417%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59138 |
In article <53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: > > > > Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing > > email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. > > Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and > doesn't have a "view source" option. > > "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the > "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email > doesn't come from aol for instance), Hovering the mouse over the link in many applications will also display the real address from the source code. That's usually enough to tell you it's a fake. Even if it doesn't say something completely obvious like "astrohackers.com", it will usually try hopelessley to hide the fact with something silly like apple.xyz.ru. The problem can be legitimate links in email newsletters generated by places like MailChimp. These often use coded links which then auto-redirect - the coded link is used by the sender's MailChimp account for statiscal purposes to see how many people clicked the link.
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-04 08:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <CF8BB1B8.AA875%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #59140 |
On 5/3/14 7:51 PM, in article 040520141251437417%YourName@YourISP.com, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <53657752$0$47947$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: >>> >>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing >>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. >> >> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and >> doesn't have a "view source" option. >> >> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the >> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email >> doesn't come from aol for instance), > > Hovering the mouse over the link in many applications will also display > the real address from the source code. That's usually enough to tell > you it's a fake. Even if it doesn't say something completely obvious > like "astrohackers.com", it will usually try hopelessley to hide the > fact with something silly like apple.xyz.ru. > > The problem can be legitimate links in email newsletters generated by > places like MailChimp. These often use coded links which then > auto-redirect - the coded link is used by the sender's MailChimp > account for statiscal purposes to see how many people clicked the link. "Apple <appleid@id.apple.com>" was the bullshit address in this case.
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-10 12:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <c7c14b-3lf1.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #59138 |
On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: >> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing >> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. > > Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and > doesn't have a "view source" option. > > "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the > "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email > doesn't come from aol for instance), Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't the ones you would expect. They should pay more attention to details like this. -- Paul Sture The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-10 08:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lklaek$223$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59236 |
On 2014-05-10 10:39:08 +0000, Paul Sture said: > On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: >>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing >>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. >> >> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and >> doesn't have a "view source" option. >> >> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the >> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email >> doesn't come from aol for instance), > > Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud > stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't > the ones you would expect. They should pay more attention to details > like this. Yeah, but if you use the basic rule of "don't click in email", you generally don't run into issues. If I get an email from what is supposedly a place that might be of interest, I just go to that place outside of email. If it is legit, the action/info will be there, if it isn't then the email was bogus. Beats the hell out of 'viewing source' and having your eyeballs get tired trying to read though all the crap those phoney emails have put there imo. -- Lloyd
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-10 11:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gLKdnRgHQeh42_POnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #59238 |
On 2014.05.10, 09:43 , Lloyd E Parsons wrote:
> On 2014-05-10 10:39:08 +0000, Paul Sture said:
>
>> On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote:
>>>> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing
>>>> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple.
>>>
>>> Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and
>>> doesn't have a "view source" option.
>>>
>>> "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the
>>> "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email
>>> doesn't come from aol for instance),
>>
>> Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud
>> stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that
>> aren't
>> the ones you would expect. They should pay more attention to details
>> like this.
>
> Yeah, but if you use the basic rule of "don't click in email", you
> generally don't run into issues. If I get an email from what is
> supposedly a place that might be of interest, I just go to that place
> outside of email. If it is legit, the action/info will be there, if it
> isn't then the email was bogus.
Yep. Though on some obvious phishes I can't resist checking out the
link. Very often Chrome flags it as a phish in any case.
--
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
-Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-11 19:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110520141945127503%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #59236 |
In article <c7c14b-3lf1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > On 2014-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > On 14-05-03 13:59, David Fritzinger wrote: > >> Just a warning to all. I just received what appears to be a phishing > >> email t)hat appeared to be (but wasn't) from Apple. > > > > Nobody should be using a email client that displays HTML as HTML, and > > doesn't have a "view source" option. > > > > "view source" is the best way to see if an email is legit or not. (the > > "Received from" headers provide very good information. An Apple email > > doesn't come from aol for instance), > > Agreed that an Apple email doesn't come from aol, but with all this cloud > stuff, some mails from large companies are coming from domains that aren't > the ones you would expect. They should pay more attention to details > like this. This is why, in my email client, I specifically implemented phishing tooltips: hover the mouse over a supposed URL and get a tip telling you where you will *actually* go if you click it. -- "Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc
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