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Big problem with OS X

Started byWilliam Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com>
First post2014-01-01 23:30 +0000
Last post2014-01-06 12:12 -0800
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  Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-01 23:30 +0000
    Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-01 18:41 -0500
      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-01 23:48 +0000
        Re: Big problem with OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-01 21:31 -0500
          Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 19:16 -0800
            Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 18:08 +1300
              Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 09:18 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:30 +0100
                Re: Big problem with OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-02 09:55 -0500
                  Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:50 +0000
                    Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 16:52 +0000
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                        Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 17:23 +0000
                          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:54 -0800
                            Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-03 13:43 -0600
                              Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-04 23:36 +0000
                                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-04 19:07 -0500
                                  Re: Big problem with OS X william-wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 00:29 +0000
                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 13:29 +1300
                                    Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-04 17:54 -0800
                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 16:32 +1300
                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-05 16:09 +1100
                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 19:20 +1300
                                          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 01:33 -0800
                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-05 10:21 +0000
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 04:08 -0800
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-05 13:16 +0100
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 04:36 -0800
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-05 13:43 +0100
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:44 -0800
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-05 13:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:45 -0800
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:42 -0600
                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:54 -0800
                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 14:59 -0700
                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:15 +0000
                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 15:20 -0700
                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:28 +0000
                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 18:24 -0600
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:19 +0000
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 08:45 -0700
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-05 16:28 +0000
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:28 -0600
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:53 -0800
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-05 13:13 -0500
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:25 -0600
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:39 -0800
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:40 -0800
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:33 -0600
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:17 -0600
                                                Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 14:45 -0800
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 18:32 -0600
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 17:10 -0800
                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-05 19:48 -0500
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 17:09 -0800
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 04:49 -0800
                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-05 21:57 -0800
                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-01-16 13:02 -0500
                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-16 14:22 -0800
                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-17 08:38 -0600
                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 08:26 -0700
                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 08:19 -0800
                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 09:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 10:26 -0800
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-17 21:29 +0000
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-18 06:43 -0800
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 08:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 07:44 -0800
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:56 -0500
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 08:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:12 -0500
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:24 -0600
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:10 -0600
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:22 -0700
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 22:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:23 -0600
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:09 -0600
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 02:58 -0800
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:40 +0000
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 06:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 07:42 -0800
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 04:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 22:55 +0000
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-24 16:23 -0800
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-24 23:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-24 22:52 -0800
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:42 -0500
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 08:27 -0800
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 09:01 -0800
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-18 15:50 -0500
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 13:08 -0800
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 15:10 -0600
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:28 -0500
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 08:56 -0800
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 12:18 -0500
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 10:36 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 10:08 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 21:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 22:29 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 10:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 09:16 +1300
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 20:43 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:29 +1300
                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-21 10:35 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:33 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-21 10:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 21:36 +0000
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-19 15:46 -0500
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:37 -0500
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X "William Wright" <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 09:11 -0800
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 08:49 +1300
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-25 01:37 -0800
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-26 09:41 +1300
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-28 11:43 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-29 09:37 +1300
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 16:37 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 12:52 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 15:57 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 08:28 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 08:51 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 09:06 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 11:39 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:53 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 09:26 +1300
                                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:43 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:20 +1300
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 11:25 +1300
                                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 17:54 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:18 +1300
                                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 18:21 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:47 +1300
                                                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 09:20 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-03 09:00 +1300
                                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 15:06 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-02 14:58 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:09 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-28 20:40 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 08:27 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:45 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 17:22 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:49 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:58 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:21 +1300
                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 10:02 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 23:04 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-30 23:14 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:20 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-31 01:17 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 13:22 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X The 29th Earl of Grimsby <earl-of-grimsby@jwright20.plus.com> - 2014-01-31 23:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:11 -0500
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 10:11 -0800
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:17 -0500
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 09:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:31 -0500
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:33 -0500
                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 16:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 09:27 -0800
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 19:36 +0000
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 11:44 -0800
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:21 -0700
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 13:25 -0800
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-17 16:46 -0600
                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 22:47 +0000
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-17 18:04 -0500
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 15:20 -0800
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 23:28 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:16 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-18 16:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 15:20 -0800
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-17 18:29 -0500
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:15 -0800
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:27 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 15:00 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-18 18:18 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:26 -0700
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:01 -0700
                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:15 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:32 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-18 02:26 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 18:45 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 20:05 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-18 03:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 20:27 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 01:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 20:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 04:18 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 09:51 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 12:01 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:16 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 10:14 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:35 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 11:29 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 14:29 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:05 +1300
                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 12:52 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 22:36 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:47 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 18:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:36 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:05 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 09:58 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-20 18:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 17:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 13:24 +1300
                                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:09 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 16:36 +1300
                                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 23:35 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 20:51 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-17 22:39 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:51 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:47 +0000
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-17 22:30 -0500
                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:57 -0600
                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 08:51 -0800
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0800
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:24 -0700
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 19:45 -0800
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 03:00 -0800
                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 09:22 -0800
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 15:15 -0600
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:38 -0700
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:20 -0600
                                                                      Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 15:14 -0800
                                                                        Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 04:16 +0000
                                                                    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 14:56 -0800
                                                                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:35 -0700
                                                                  Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 17:43 -0600
                                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 15:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:00 -0600
                                                          Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 14:34 -0600
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 04:32 -0800
                                            Re: Big problem with OS X Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-06 12:26 -0800
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 16:22 -0500
                                              Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-07 13:09 +1300
                                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-04 22:10 -0600
                        Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:43 -0800
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                        Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-02 12:43 -0600
                          Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 19:09 +0000
                            Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:46 -0800
                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:48 -0800
                            Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 20:48 +0100
                              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 12:11 -0800
                                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 21:14 +0100
                                  Re: Big problem with OS X Imaginary <spamproof@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-01-02 19:46 -0800
                    Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-02 12:41 -0600
          Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 09:24 +0000
            Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 13:26 +0000
            Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-02 12:27 -0500
              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:44 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-03 12:09 -0500
                  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-03 10:42 -0800
                    Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-04 14:17 -0500
                      Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-04 23:39 +0000
                        Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-04 19:58 -0800
                        Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-05 13:15 -0500
                          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 10:22 -0800
      Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 13:14 +1300
        Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:46 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-01 17:15 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 20:36 -0700
      Re: Big problem with OS X Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-01-02 06:25 +0100
      Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:09 +0100
    Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 09:08 +0000
      Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:12 +0100
    Re: Big problem with OS X Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-01-05 01:00 +0000
    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:53 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:40 -0800
      Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-05 18:17 -0500
        Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 07:55 +0000
          Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 04:33 -0500
            Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 03:15 -0800
              Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 13:59 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 11:45 -0800
                  Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 15:33 -0500
            Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 03:20 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-06 20:18 +0100
      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 12:12 -0800

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#54909

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-01-18 14:38 -0700
Message-ID<180120141438596080%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#54902
In article <CF004B1F.A67B3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, Duck, since you are mentioning range and such, have you ever thought
> about the newest 'fad', laser sights? Just curious.

The gunsmith at the range I used to go to said that a laser sight is a
wonderful pointer to the target, namely you--especially after the room
fills with smoke.

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#54916

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2014-01-18 16:20 -0600
Message-ID<drache-C9B1F0.16204218012014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#54909
In article <180120141438596080%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <CF004B1F.A67B3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hey, Duck, since you are mentioning range and such, have you ever thought
> > about the newest 'fad', laser sights? Just curious.
> 
> The gunsmith at the range I used to go to said that a laser sight is a
> wonderful pointer to the target, namely you--especially after the room
> fills with smoke.

8-)  I just have sticks.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#54926

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2014-01-18 15:14 -0800
Message-ID<2014011815143482344-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#54909
On 2014-01-18 21:38:59 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <CF004B1F.A67B3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey, Duck, since you are mentioning range and such, have you ever thought
>> about the newest 'fad', laser sights? Just curious.
> 
> The gunsmith at the range I used to go to said that a laser sight is a
> wonderful pointer to the target, namely you--especially after the room
> fills with smoke.

The smoke filled room and laser beam traces are a TV/Movie dramatic 
device and a bit of an urban myth.
In typical use laser sights are not used in an always on mode, but 
mostly for target acquisition in low light with a brief shooter 
activated momentary illumination via an on/off switch.
What I don't like about laser sights is, they are not a replacement for 
good sight discipline and training. They can be a useful tool, but I 
can live without them. They will not make a good shooter out of a 
novice.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#54941

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-01-19 04:16 +0000
Message-ID<slrnldmkdr.saj.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#54926
In message <2014011815143482344-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-18 21:38:59 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

>> In article <CF004B1F.A67B3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
>> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey, Duck, since you are mentioning range and such, have you ever thought
>>> about the newest 'fad', laser sights? Just curious.
>> 
>> The gunsmith at the range I used to go to said that a laser sight is a
>> wonderful pointer to the target, namely you--especially after the room
>> fills with smoke.

> The smoke filled room and laser beam traces are a TV/Movie dramatic 
> device and a bit of an urban myth.
> In typical use laser sights are not used in an always on mode, but 
> mostly for target acquisition in low light with a brief shooter 
> activated momentary illumination via an on/off switch.
> What I don't like about laser sights is, they are not a replacement for 
> good sight discipline and training. They can be a useful tool, but I 
> can live without them. They will not make a good shooter out of a 
> novice.

Which is not their goal, their goal is to make a *better* shooter out of
an average one, and that they do extremely well.

-- 
But I been sane a long while now, and change is good.

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#54924

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2014-01-18 14:56 -0800
Message-ID<2014011814563784984-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#54902
On 2014-01-18 21:15:43 +0000, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> said:
> On 1/18/14 11:22 AM, in article
> 2014011809225691375-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-01-18 15:57:23 +0000, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> said:
>>> On 1/17/14 9:26 AM, in article 170120140826502063%michelle@michelle.org,
>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>> In article <CEFE9C8B.A6705%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
>>>> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That individual just gave the gun control fanatics more fodder for their
>>>>> fire and it is a damn shame - on all counts...
>>>> 
>>>> The NRA and its adherents believe that anyone who wants to put any
>>>> restrictions, no matter how minor, on firearm possession and/or use are
>>>> gun control fanatics.
>>>> 
>>>> The Brady Campaign and its adherents believe that anyone who owns a gun
>>>> or shoots one is a gun nut.
>>>> 
>>>> Then there are those of us who are somewhere in the spectrum between
>>>> those extremes.  The reason that I don't own a firearm is that I'd
>>>> rather spend my money on other things, but if I ever do buy one, it
>>>> will probably be this one:
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_7
>>>> 50051_765955_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y>
>>> 
>>> Expensive taste there. Hell, if you are looking for a large no-conceal
>>> revolver get the six inch barrel. Better long-range target practice.
>> 
>> What do you call long range with a pistol, or long range target practice?
>> Olympic Free Pistol is shot at 50 meters.
>> 
>> When it comes to defensive and/or combat shooting ranges vary from
>> contact to about 25 yards at most, usually in the 10 foot to 15 yard
>> range. For most defense/combat handguns in the higher calibers, a
>> 4''-5'' barrel with a 5'' to 6'' sight radius is more than good enough.
>> This makes the weapon a little easier to handle and is actually better
>> in a stress situation.
>> A long barrel hand gun with a long sight radius (8''-12''), might be
>> inherently more accurate, but it is less forgiving, magnifying the
>> smallest errors. It takes a lot of practice and training to wring the
>> best out of a long sight radius target weapon. When I was shooting
>> competition I would fire about 10,000 rounds a year, and that was not
>> under combat stress.
>> 
> 
> Hey, Duck, since you are mentioning range and such, have you ever thought
> about the newest 'fad', laser sights? Just curious.

Personally I don't use laser sights. Both my Kimber and my Glock M23 
have MeproLight night sights.
< 
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/881808/meprolight-tru-dot-slant-night-sight-set-1911-kimber-front-and-rear-cuts-steel-blue-tritium-green 
>
or < http://tinyurl.com/ky5ncno >

In low to no light I use a SureFire flashlight as a light source for 
aiming. That is such a bright light it can pretty much blind a target 
subject. There are some good combat techniques for using the light + 
handgun combo.
< 
http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/e2d-led-defender-ultra.html 
>

>>> BTW: With the price of ammo these days, who can afford much, LOL!?!
>> 
>> Agreed, even with reloading it is not as affordable as it once was.
>> When I did reload I was only reloading 38 SP for target shooting. Those
>> were fed into my S&W model 52.
>> 
> 
> Yep, I used to reload shotgun shells, not because of the expense, but a
> friend did so and taught it to me. Don't have the equipment anymore but I
> seem to recall having a bunch of empty 12ga cartridges around here
> somewhere.

My reloading equipment was sold some time ago. I still have about 40 
plastic 38 SP/357 ammo boxes.

> 
>> Bricks of .22 LR can still be had at reasonable prices. I still buy a
>> fair amount of .38 SP mid-range, and .40 S&W 165 gr. FMJ and .45 ACP
>> 230 gr. FMJ,  for practice, usually in the Winchester 100 round value
>> packs around $30 for the .40 S&W, and $38 for the .45 ACP. 38SP reloads
>> run about $24 for a 100.
>> 
>> Carry rounds are a different matter. 50 Federal Premium (Law
>> Enforcement) Tactical .45 (+P) 185 gr. JHP runs me about $28, and a
>> similar price for .40 S&W 155 gr JHP.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#54906

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-01-18 14:35 -0700
Message-ID<180120141435223047%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#54872
In article <CF000083.A678B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Then there are those of us who are somewhere in the spectrum between
> > those extremes.  The reason that I don't own a firearm is that I'd
> > rather spend my money on other things, but if I ever do buy one, it
> > will probably be this one:
> > 
> > <http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_7
> > 50051_765955_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y>
> 
> Expensive taste there. Hell, if you are looking for a large no-conceal
> revolver get the six inch barrel. Better long-range target practice.

I tried a six-inch barrel, and found the 4-inch had better balance in
my hands.  And since it would be for home defense, with distances less
than 20 feet, and maybe less than ten feet, 4 inches is enough.

Longer is not always better; it's how you use it, they always tell me. 
;)

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#54931

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-01-18 17:43 -0600
Message-ID<CF006DB9.A6808%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#54906


On 1/18/14 3:35 PM, in article 180120141435223047%michelle@michelle.org,
"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <CF000083.A678B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Then there are those of us who are somewhere in the spectrum between
>>> those extremes.  The reason that I don't own a firearm is that I'd
>>> rather spend my money on other things, but if I ever do buy one, it
>>> will probably be this one:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_7
>>> 50051_765955_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y>
>> 
>> Expensive taste there. Hell, if you are looking for a large no-conceal
>> revolver get the six inch barrel. Better long-range target practice.
> 
> I tried a six-inch barrel, and found the 4-inch had better balance in
> my hands.  And since it would be for home defense, with distances less
> than 20 feet, and maybe less than ten feet, 4 inches is enough.
> 
True dat.

> Longer is not always better; it's how you use it, they always tell me.
> ;)

And DAT as WELL...

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#54793

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-01-17 15:27 +0000
Message-ID<170120141527197855%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#54789
In article <CEFE9C8B.A6705%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/16/14 4:22 PM, in article
> 20140116142244356-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-01-16 18:02:23 +0000, "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> said:
> > 
> >> In article <2014010521574226683-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> >>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Then what do you think about retired cops who use Macs?
> >> 
> >> There's this retired cop in Florida who I wish had used a Mac at the
> >> movie theater ...
> > 
> > That particular individual seems to have issues which are not solvable
> > with Mac, smart phone, handgun, or therapist.
> > 
> > I certainly use my Mac, iPhone, & iPad more than I find a reason to
> > carry my Kimber 45 ACP anywhere. These days I only take it out of the
> > house when I go to the range to maintain my qualification.
> > < https://db.tt/hScSCe9b
> 
> That individual just gave the gun control fanatics more fodder for their
> fire and it is a damn shame - on all counts...

All I can say is that I'm glad I managed to cease living in a country
with such a lunatic (or indeed any) level of private gun ownership
(except shotguns for farmers, that's legit) to somewhere where the
annual murder count for the whole country is not much larger (if at
all) than any big city in the US.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#54873

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-01-18 10:00 -0600
Message-ID<CF000132.A678D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#54793


On 1/17/14 9:27 AM, in article 170120141527197855%timstreater@greenbee.net,
"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <CEFE9C8B.A6705%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/16/14 4:22 PM, in article
>> 20140116142244356-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-01-16 18:02:23 +0000, "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> said:
>>> 
>>>> In article <2014010521574226683-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>>>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Then what do you think about retired cops who use Macs?
>>>> 
>>>> There's this retired cop in Florida who I wish had used a Mac at the
>>>> movie theater ...
>>> 
>>> That particular individual seems to have issues which are not solvable
>>> with Mac, smart phone, handgun, or therapist.
>>> 
>>> I certainly use my Mac, iPhone, & iPad more than I find a reason to
>>> carry my Kimber 45 ACP anywhere. These days I only take it out of the
>>> house when I go to the range to maintain my qualification.
>>> < https://db.tt/hScSCe9b
>> 
>> That individual just gave the gun control fanatics more fodder for their
>> fire and it is a damn shame - on all counts...
> 
> All I can say is that I'm glad I managed to cease living in a country
> with such a lunatic (or indeed any) level of private gun ownership
> (except shotguns for farmers, that's legit) to somewhere where the
> annual murder count for the whole country is not much larger (if at
> all) than any big city in the US.

And why would a shotgun for 'farmers' be "legit" and not for a hunter or
skeet/trap shooter, may I ask?!? And, what do you define as a 'farmer',
inquiring minds want to know...

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#54990

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-01-19 14:34 -0600
Message-ID<CF019311.A6886%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#54784


On 1/16/14 4:22 PM, in article
20140116142244356-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-01-16 18:02:23 +0000, "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> said:
> 
>> In article <2014010521574226683-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Then what do you think about retired cops who use Macs?
>> 
>> There's this retired cop in Florida who I wish had used a Mac at the
>> movie theater ...
> 
> That particular individual seems to have issues which are not solvable
> with Mac, smart phone, handgun, or therapist.
> 

There should be more police officers who deal with the public like this
nearby civil servant...

<http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/19/what-an-officer-does-after-seein
g-a-kid-playing-ball-has-sent-the-dash-cam-video-viral/>

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#54435

Fromwilliamwright.orsk@gmail.com
Date2014-01-06 04:32 -0800
Message-ID<41515733-a85b-4d80-a9e0-68cfc14fd638@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#54351
On Sunday, 5 January 2014 10:21:29 UTC, Tim Streater  wrote:
> In article <f565a0e1-cf45-4eef-80dc-9849c289fa98@googlegroups.com>,
> 
> <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Dude, that is the Daily Mail your reading. They supported Hitler
> 
> > and they come up with this rubbish every week. 
> 
> 
> 
> "Dude", eh? Obviously a frequenter of Starbucks.
> 
> 
> 
> Still waiting (well, *not*, actually) to hear about the "big problem
> 
> with OS X". Let us know, eh, "Dude", one of these centuries. In the
> 
> meantime just shut your fat gob.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
> 
>  lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
> 
>  the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
> 
>  into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

why don't you go and stuff your mac up your hard drive, you sad tosser and find a girlfriend.

ps. get knotted!

From,

Samuel Weiner-Coaltrousers

The Willy's Brother 

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#54457

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-01-06 12:26 -0800
Message-ID<e6CdnUSyAqEJjFbPnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#54350
williamwright.orsk@gmail.com wrote:

> Dude, that is the Daily Mail your reading. They supported Hitler and they come up with this rubbish every week.

That is an error of the same nature as "The Jews killed Christ": the 
creatures running the Daily Mail, whatever their failings, are not (at 
least, one hopes) those who supported Hitler.

(As to the rubbish, I wouldn't know: I gave up reading it 40 years ago.)

Paul Magnussen

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#54459

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2014-01-06 16:22 -0500
Message-ID<laf6r1$m1b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54457
On 1/6/14, 3:26 PM, Paul Magnussen wrote:
> williamwright.orsk@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dude, that is the Daily Mail your reading. They supported Hitler and
>> they come up with this rubbish every week.
>
> That is an error of the same nature as "The Jews killed Christ": the
> creatures running the Daily Mail, whatever their failings, are not (at
> least, one hopes) those who supported Hitler.
>
> (As to the rubbish, I wouldn't know: I gave up reading it 40 years ago.)
>
> Paul Magnussen

But they invaded Diana Rigg's privacy!  At least they didn't disclose 
her undisclosed location.

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#54461

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-01-07 13:09 +1300
Message-ID<070120141309507467%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#54457
In article <e6CdnUSyAqEJjFbPnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> williamwright.orsk@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Dude, that is the Daily Mail your reading. They supported Hitler and they
> > come up with this rubbish every week.
> 
> That is an error of the same nature as "The Jews killed Christ": the 
> creatures running the Daily Mail, whatever their failings, are not (at 
> least, one hopes) those who supported Hitler.
> 
> (As to the rubbish, I wouldn't know: I gave up reading it 40 years ago.)

The Daily news link I posted simply happened to be the one I copied
from a long list via a Google search.

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#54345

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-01-04 22:10 -0600
Message-ID<CEEE375A.A62C6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#54334


On 1/4/14 5:36 PM, in article
52c89b02$0$7243$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com, "William Wright"
<williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 03/01/2014 19:43, George Kerby wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/2/14 1:54 PM, in article
>> cb034f52-1963-41fe-aeb5-5449146b7391@googlegroups.com,
>> "williamwright.orsk@gmail.com" <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:23:19 UTC, Tim Streater  wrote:
>>>> In article <52c59adb$0$58711$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>> 
>>>> William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>> 
>>>>>> William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Davoud: 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> William Wright
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Woah! Woah! ...
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>>>> 
>>>>>> nothing to say for itself.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [sig snipped as Billy-Boy was too incompetent to do it himself]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> The funny thing is you are getting quite worked up about this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Noting that you still have nothing to say for yourself regarding the
>>>> 
>>>> Mac and its OS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And I guess you still have the DTs from your recent binging on
>>>> 
>>>> industrial alcohol as you managed to send your post several times.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
>>>> 
>>>>  lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores
>>>> 
>>>>  the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
>>>> 
>>>>  into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPyQxUWjHZM
>> 
>> 
>> Can't you afford ANYTHING?!?
>> 
>> At least a two-buck Newsreader?!?
>> 
>> DAMNATION, get out of your mama's basement and get a JOB!!!
>> 
> I'm out of ma mamas basement and in yo mamas bed. I also have a job as a
>  Guest Show of the Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson even though that show
>  has not been made for 20 Years.
> 
> And my newsreader, think I give a toss?
> 

You obviously need to toss you cookies down your trachea and relieve all of
us of your bland boring bullshit with a death tremor rattle. Jus' sayin'...

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#54285

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2014-01-02 11:43 -0800
Message-ID<2014010211431014424-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#54272
On 2014-01-02 16:59:07 +0000, William Wright said:

> On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>> William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>>>> Davoud:
>>>>>>>> This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>>>> 
>>>> William Wright
>>>>> Woah! Woah! ...
>>>> 
>>>> Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>> 
>>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>> 
>> So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>> nothing to say for itself.

Linux rules because you don't like Apple. That's bad even as a logical fallacy.

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#54273

FromWilliam Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<52c59aec$0$49587$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54270
On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>> >Davoud: 
>> >> >> > This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>> >
>> >William Wright
>> >> Woah! Woah! ...
>> >
>> >Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>
>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>
>So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>nothing to say for itself.
>
>-- 
>Tim
>
>"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
>nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

Goats

From,
William Wright

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#54274

FromWilliam Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<52c59af5$0$9608$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54270
On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>> >Davoud: 
>> >> >> > This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>> >
>> >William Wright
>> >> Woah! Woah! ...
>> >
>> >Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>
>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>
>So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>nothing to say for itself.
>
>-- 
>Tim
>
>"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
>nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

Goats

From,
William Wright

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#54275

FromWilliam Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<52c59aff$0$10779$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54270
On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>> >Davoud: 
>> >> >> > This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>> >
>> >William Wright
>> >> Woah! Woah! ...
>> >
>> >Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>
>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>
>So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>nothing to say for itself.
>
>-- 
>Tim
>
>"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
>nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

Goats

From,
William Wright

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#54276

FromWilliam Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<52c59b0a$0$47914$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54270
On 02/01/2014 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
>In article <52c598cc$0$10283$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>,
>William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/01/2014 14:55, Davoud wrote:
>> >Davoud: 
>> >> >> > This is a /very/ serious case of Apple envy.
>> >
>> >William Wright
>> >> Woah! Woah! ...
>> >
>> >Why am I not surprised that you don't know how to spell "whoa?"
>
>> Because Mac users think they run the world!
>
>So you are nothing more than an undesirable side-effect which has
>nothing to say for itself.
>
>-- 
>Tim
>
>"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
>nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

Goats

From,
William Wright

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