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| Started by | "madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com" <csmdl.iitm@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2012-03-15 10:52 -0700 |
| Last post | 2012-03-18 10:15 -0400 |
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*** High Priority Direct Client Requirements::::::::Plz revert without cjanging the subject line *** "madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com" <csmdl.iitm@gmail.com> - 2012-03-15 10:52 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-15 20:29 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-03-16 19:10 +1300
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-16 11:35 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-16 13:59 +0000
Re: incompetent headhunter spam dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-03-17 14:12 +1300
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-17 09:38 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 15:50 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-03-16 11:39 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Kaiden Nediak <kaiden@easilyaddicted.com> - 2012-03-16 12:05 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-16 18:17 -0500
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-17 08:04 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-03-17 12:11 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-03-17 21:46 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-18 08:47 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 15:48 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-18 12:32 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-03-18 09:39 -0800
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 21:21 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-18 16:48 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-19 07:31 +1100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-19 08:04 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 07:41 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-19 14:06 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-19 10:51 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-19 16:19 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-20 12:08 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-20 06:25 +1100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 15:42 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 15:41 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-18 16:26 +0000
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-18 12:45 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-18 21:09 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2012-03-18 13:32 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-19 13:48 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-19 10:07 +0000
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-19 14:03 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2012-03-19 07:36 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-19 22:30 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2012-03-19 21:11 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-20 12:02 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-20 13:13 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-21 11:36 +0100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 07:44 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-20 11:57 +0100
He who laughs last .... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-20 16:43 -0400
Re: He who laughs last .... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-20 17:05 -0400
Re: He who laughs last .... Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-03-20 17:27 -0400
Re: He who laughs last .... Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-03-20 20:29 -0400
Re: He who laughs last .... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-20 17:55 -0700
Re: He who laughs last .... Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-21 01:18 +0000
Re: He who laughs last .... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-21 09:20 +0000
Re: He who laughs last .... Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-03-21 13:21 -0400
Re: He who laughs last .... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-21 17:27 +0000
Re: He who laughs last .... John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-03-21 10:42 -0700
Re: He who laughs last .... Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-03-20 23:13 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-20 17:20 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-20 16:15 -0700
Re: incompetent headhunter spam dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-19 07:21 +1100
Re: incompetent headhunter spam russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-19 01:07 +0000
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-16 22:57 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-16 16:40 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-16 22:59 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-17 09:39 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-18 00:36 -0400
Re: incompetent headhunter spam Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-18 10:15 -0400
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| From | "madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com" <csmdl.iitm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-15 10:52 -0700 |
| Subject | *** High Priority Direct Client Requirements::::::::Plz revert without cjanging the subject line *** |
| Message-ID | <52148176-bc6d-4610-9388-6eec1022b217@x7g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> |
Hi, Greetings from Iconsoft Group !!! We have the below high priority requirements with one of our direct clients. Please find the below openings and share your consultants resume at the earliest. Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and contact number of the resources. Requirement No 1 Location: Oakbrook, IL Mandatory Skills / Job Description: Need Technical Specialist with over 6 years of experience having following skills: 1. Should be well versed on Microsoft technologies (.NET 4.0, ASP.NET, C#, AJAX, XML, SQL Server, Web Services) 2. Knowledge of cloud computing with Microsoft Azure, SQL Azure is must 3. Knowledge of SQL server 2008 is must 4. Writing stored procedure, trigger and function is must 5. Well-developed spoken and written interpersonal and communication skills 6. Skills in customer solutions Implementation Methodologies Requirement No 2 Location: Cincinnati,OH US citizens only Joining : Immediate Brief Job Outline Degree + 3 years experience on Asset Management. Should have strong working knowledge on the below mentioned activities along with good communication skills. o Management of all Software renewals and New Purchases for GE INFRA engineering o Contact vendors for renewal information, cost, dates, contract, etc. o Look across all INFRA inventories for each vendor to see if consolidation is something that is doable along with license co- termination o Validate renewal (work with users and Tools owners to confirm if renewals are needed) o Work with sourcing to execute all renewals before deadline/ expiration o Work with vendors to communicate renewal status and keep users up and running if we approach expirations o Push vendors to provide deflation in their maintenance contracts OR at least get costs to remain flat. o Negotiate any maintenance agreements that are above 18% o Manage status spreadsheet for request status – this includes tracking the renewal and understanding if anything is required or if there are issues in sourcing o Work with requestor once a PO is issued to ensure delivery of any media/licenses o Manage the data in ETCoE 3rd Party Software Inventory Database (Access) o Run reports for renewals (90-120 day queries) o Maintain data integrity o Update renewal dates, and other pertinent information o Initiate NDAs/PIAs process for all new vendors to the system. This includes actual execution of this legal document. o Management of new purchase process o Managing SRL requests that clear to Tools queue to be requisitioned/ purchased o Maintain status and communication with SRSL team and requestors of their new purchase o Co-term existing agreements and licenses for new purchases with existing o Negotiate with vendors at least a 10% discount off any new purchase o Manage status spreadsheet for request status – this includes tracking the renewal and understanding if anything is required or if there are issues in sourcing o Work with requestor once a PO is issued to ensure delivery of any media/licenses o Execute the sourcing policies associated for software renewals and new purchases o Statement of Work creation o Single Source creation o Should Cost creation o Budgetary estimate collection – vendor quote o Enter all requests in Aviation Sourcing system with appropriate approvers and information Manage data content and status and then coordinate with other business requisitioners if we need to move transactions to other systems (Energy SSP5 system mainly) o Submit the IMR request workflow o Receive the amount issued on the PO in the sourcing system so that the suppliers can receive payment. Before receiving funds, coordination with the requestor must happen to ensure we have received the product/software/keys. Prior experience of interaction with global clients will be a definite plus. Key Result Areas - Review and process Software License Agreements - Track and file software contracts & licensing agreements - Process service contracts and licensing agreements - Organize and maintain service contracts portfolios - Seek internal approval for new contracts and renewals. - Collaborate with software vendors. Requirement No3 Location: Cincinnati, OH we are interested in consultant with Hybris PCM (Product Content Management) skills. We need a senior person who has experience of implementation of PCM module for large product set. Requirement No4 Location: Jersey City, NJ Mandatory skills: Senior Architect - hands on developer/designer, onshore, ODS knowledge will be a plus – Technology skills needed Microsoft , SSAS-- SSIS-- SSRS and Ab Initio / Microstrategy good exposure. Total experience 7 – 8 yrs experience Detailed job description: The expectation is that the resource will be directly involved in solutioning and recommendng hte right approach in terms of design and architecture. The resource will be expected to implement the solution and be part of the entire design cycle bringing it to clossure (we do not need some who prepares the design doc and is not available during implementation. Rather the resource will be part of the implementation and bring logical closures) Requirement No5 Location: Oakbrook, IL To provide the Level 3 support to support and maintain the Azure Platform. Need a person with excellent communication and coordination skills. Job responsibilities include Monitoring ?L3 monitoring - New Relic(daily) ?McCloud Email Inbox ?McCloud SYNC logs ?McCloud Email Inbox ?Azure Service Dashboard ? MDM Feeds Task Managment ? Application deployment ? Environment migrations ? On demand database backups Application Support:Provide support and subject matter expertise relative to and including, but not limited to, common Azure issues described below: ?Azure Resource Troubleshooting ?Deployment Troubleshooting ?NewRelic Troubleshooting ?Common Services Troubleshooting Requirement No6 Skill: hybris Technology Lead • Years of experience: Above 6 years • Work Location: IL, • Other Skills: At least two OTM upgrade experience from 5.5 to 6.2.X Participate in client discussions, interact with business analysts and establish technical specifications for the extended implementation team • Lead efforts to understand as-is system and solution landscape and execute knowledge transfer sessions from client and partner stakeholders • Perform As-Is analysis, provide To-Be recommendation’s, on technology solution and provide solution to specialized problems. Identify and execute plans for continuous improvement of the overall solution • Evangelize the usage of reusable frameworks and artifacts, Create knowledge artifacts and evaluation criteria guide or provide technical training in relevant technology areas in order to develop talent in technology /domain. • Design, develop and maintain overall solution including responding to end user requests and solving critical issues related to application business continuity • Interact with an extended globally deployed implementation team for overall solution delivery • Lead Agile sprints and ensure execution with the extended sprint teams under the guidance of a Scrum Master Requirement No7 Skill: hybris Developer • Years of experience: Above 2 years • Work Location: IL, Skill: sr. hybris Developer • Perform As-Is analysis, provide To-Be recommendation’s, on technology solution and provide solution to specialized problems. Identify and execute plans for continuous improvement of the overall solution • Design, develop and maintain overall solution including responding to end user requests and solving critical issues related to application business continuity • Interact with an extended globally deployed implementation team for overall solution delivery • Participate in Agile development sprints in close conjunction with the Team lead and Scrum master Your valuable support will be highly appreciated !!!! Warm Regards Madhanlal Iconsoft Consulting Group, Inc 1810 Englishtown Road Building #1 Old Bridge, NJ – 08857 Phone: 732 456 6388 Fax: 732 875 0703 Company Profile Iconsoft Consulting Group, Inc, founded in 1997, is a software development and IT consulting firm which delivers business driven solutions to Fortune 500, financial institutions, and mid-market segment firms. Iconsoft Consulting Group works with its clients on site, off site, and offshore in any combination that meets their needs. Our Business Development Managers, Technical Resources Managers, and Consultants work hand-in-hand with clients to improve business performance, providing an edge to any business, and create competitive advantage for our clients in the forever changing today’s market. Interested candidates, please send your updated resume along with salary requirements to madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-15 20:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <jju1h8$pko$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22388 |
On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote:
> clients. Please find the below openings and share your consultants
You omitted the apostrophe from "consultant's"
> Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and
"Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ?
> 4. Writing stored procedure, trigger and function is must
> 5. Well-developed spoken and written interpersonal and communication
> skills
> 6. Skills in customer solutions Implementation Methodologies
How can you judge communication skills when yours are so poor?
And how can you offer to find good technical candidates when you don't
understand how much many of us hate spammers?
Complaints will no doubt be ignored by google & google (Groups & GMail)
but sent anyway.
--
Wes Groleau
Nobody believes a theoretical analysis — except the guy who did it.
Everybody believes an experimental analysis — except the guy who did it.
— Unknown
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 19:10 +1300 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <1kh1y0s.1mwkkv9weof7zN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #22395 |
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: > > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and > > "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly outdated usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older friends using it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he has spent a fair amount of time working in international circles). It might be more common in British English than Australian, New Zealand and American English. The closest meaning listed in my (British) dictionary is "return". -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 11:35 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <sjhb39-b01.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22407 |
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:10:16 +1300, David Empson wrote: > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > >> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: >> > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and >> >> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? > > "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly outdated > usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older friends using > it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he has spent a fair > amount of time working in international circles). > > It might be more common in British English than Australian, New Zealand > and American English. The closest meaning listed in my (British) > dictionary is "return". I don't recognize that usage in British English (disclaimer: I've spent a lot of time working in international circles and have lived outside the UK for most of my career). -- Paul Sture
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 13:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <timstreater-D0B79C.13593416032012@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #22411 |
In article <sjhb39-b01.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:10:16 +1300, David Empson wrote: > > > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > >> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: > >> > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and > >> > >> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? > > > > "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly outdated > > usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older friends using > > it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he has spent a fair > > amount of time working in international circles). > > > > It might be more common in British English than Australian, New Zealand > > and American English. The closest meaning listed in my (British) > > dictionary is "return". > > I don't recognize that usage in British English (disclaimer: I've spent a > lot of time working in international circles and have lived outside the > UK for most of my career). Ditto. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 14:12 +1300 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <1kh3sen.dgoauxwm1fqvN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #22413 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <sjhb39-b01.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> > wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:10:16 +1300, David Empson wrote: > > > > > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > > > >> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: > > >> > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and > > >> > > >> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? > > > > > > "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly outdated > > > usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older friends using > > > it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he has spent a fair > > > amount of time working in international circles). > > > > > > It might be more common in British English than Australian, New Zealand > > > and American English. The closest meaning listed in my (British) > > > dictionary is "return". > > > > I don't recognize that usage in British English (disclaimer: I've spent a > > lot of time working in international circles and have lived outside the > > UK for most of my career). > > Ditto. OK, the British connection was just a theory without evidence. Another possible theory is that it could be used by English speakers around South-East Asia, as my friend who used "revert" in the same sense spent a fair amount of time in that part of the world. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 09:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <2ZSdnV1xL8l4DvnSnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #22431 |
On 2012-03-16 21:12 , David Empson wrote:
> Tim Streater<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> In article<sjhb39-b01.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture<paul@sture.ch>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:10:16 +1300, David Empson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wes Groleau<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote:
>>>>>> Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and
>>>>>
>>>>> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ?
>>>>
>>>> "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly outdated
>>>> usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older friends using
>>>> it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he has spent a fair
>>>> amount of time working in international circles).
>>>>
>>>> It might be more common in British English than Australian, New Zealand
>>>> and American English. The closest meaning listed in my (British)
>>>> dictionary is "return".
>>>
>>> I don't recognize that usage in British English (disclaimer: I've spent a
>>> lot of time working in international circles and have lived outside the
>>> UK for most of my career).
>>
>> Ditto.
>
> OK, the British connection was just a theory without evidence. Another
> possible theory is that it could be used by English speakers around
> South-East Asia, as my friend who used "revert" in the same sense spent
> a fair amount of time in that part of the world.
Indian "English" is famous for being old fashioned and influenced from
19th century style. Add some drift to that over 100 years and you get
today's quaint version.
--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 15:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <4a9h39-e0h.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22431 |
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:12:21 +1300, David Empson wrote: > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > >> In article <sjhb39-b01.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> >> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:10:16 +1300, David Empson wrote: >> > >> > > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: >> > > >> > >> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: >> > >> > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates >> > >> > and >> > >> >> > >> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? >> > > >> > > "Revert" in that context is a somewhat obscure and possibly >> > > outdated usage, which also baffled me when I heard one of my older >> > > friends using it (New Zealand English is his first language, but he >> > > has spent a fair amount of time working in international circles). >> > > >> > > It might be more common in British English than Australian, New >> > > Zealand and American English. The closest meaning listed in my >> > > (British) dictionary is "return". >> > >> > I don't recognize that usage in British English (disclaimer: I've >> > spent a lot of time working in international circles and have lived >> > outside the UK for most of my career). >> >> Ditto. > > OK, the British connection was just a theory without evidence. Another > possible theory is that it could be used by English speakers around > South-East Asia, as my friend who used "revert" in the same sense spent > a fair amount of time in that part of the world. In my experience you do pick up words and phrases from those who surround you, even if at the bottom of your heart you know they are wrong, -- Paul Sture
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| From | Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 11:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <fmoore-F49C14.11393716032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #22395 |
In article <jju1h8$pko$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: > > clients. Please find the below openings and share your consultants > > You omitted the apostrophe from "consultant's" > > > Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and > > "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? > > > 4. Writing stored procedure, trigger and function is must > > 5. Well-developed spoken and written interpersonal and communication > > skills > > 6. Skills in customer solutions Implementation Methodologies > > How can you judge communication skills when yours are so poor? > > And how can you offer to find good technical candidates when you don't > understand how much many of us hate spammers? > > Complaints will no doubt be ignored by google & google (Groups & GMail) > but sent anyway. Now, Wes, you're expecting a spammer who's probably spoofing the org's domain to follow The Chicago Manual of Style? If so, the Reactionary Party has a bridge to sell ya. -- The problem with Crapitalism is there is an infinite supply of vicious, greedy bastards demanding everything for themselves and happy to let everyone else pay the price.
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| From | Kaiden Nediak <kaiden@easilyaddicted.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 12:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <4f638efb$0$2063$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22415 |
On 2012-03-16 15:39:37 +0000, Fred Moore said: > In article <jju1h8$pko$1@dont-email.me>, > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: > >> On 03-15-2012 13:52, madanlal@iconsoftgroup.com wrote: >>> clients. Please find the below openings and share your consultants >> >> You omitted the apostrophe from "consultant's" >> >>> Please revert the profiles with the requirement number, rates and >> >> "Revert" ? Got something against "respond" or "reply" ? >> >>> 4. Writing stored procedure, trigger and function is must >>> 5. Well-developed spoken and written interpersonal and communication >>> skills >>> 6. Skills in customer solutions Implementation Methodologies >> >> How can you judge communication skills when yours are so poor? >> >> And how can you offer to find good technical candidates when you don't >> understand how much many of us hate spammers? >> >> Complaints will no doubt be ignored by google & google (Groups & GMail) >> but sent anyway. > > Now, Wes, you're expecting a spammer who's probably spoofing the org's > domain to follow The Chicago Manual of Style? If so, the Reactionary > Party has a bridge to sell ya. Sadly what we have here is an "India" based spammer. That's how the majority of them speak english. I say this being someone who works pretty extensively with off-shore based companies and after hundreds of them say revert when they mean reply you get a feel for their "language" skills as they call it =)
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 18:17 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <timmcn-2E2510.18174416032012@news.iphouse.com> |
| In reply to | #22419 |
In article <4f638efb$0$2063$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, Kaiden Nediak <kaiden@easilyaddicted.com> wrote: > Sadly what we have here is an "India" based spammer. That's how the > majority of them speak english. I say this being someone who works > pretty extensively with off-shore based companies and after hundreds > of them say revert when they mean reply you get a feel for their > "language" skills as they call it =) Do you speak Hindi/Urdu as well as they do? Why is it that so many English speakers in particular assume that the entire world should speak their language? Perhaps native Anglophones are the ones lacking "language" skills. -- And wackiness ensues...
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 08:04 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <4f647db5$0$2099$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22427 |
In article <timmcn-2E2510.18174416032012@news.iphouse.com>, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > Do you speak Hindi/Urdu as well as they do? > > Why is it that so many English speakers in particular assume that the > entire world should speak their language? Perhaps native Anglophones > are the ones lacking "language" skills. If they want to deal with me or mine, they can damned well do it in English. I don't pretend to offer support in Urdi or Hindu or French. The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas. -- ... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
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| From | Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 12:11 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <fmoore-77E646.12114617032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #22442 |
In article <4f647db5$0$2099$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <timmcn-2E2510.18174416032012@news.iphouse.com>, > Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > > > Do you speak Hindi/Urdu as well as they do? > > > > Why is it that so many English speakers in particular assume that the > > entire world should speak their language? Perhaps native Anglophones > > are the ones lacking "language" skills. > > If they want to deal with me or mine, they can damned well do it in > English. I don't pretend to offer support in Urdi or Hindu or French. > > The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English > will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, > which was the other possibility. > > As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that > English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- > year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". > > In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will > make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in > favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have > one less letter. > > There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the > troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like > fotograf 20% shorter. > > In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted > to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. > Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have > always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the > horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should > go away. > > By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" > with "z" and "w" with "v". > > During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining > "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer > vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu > understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. > > Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze > forst plas. Brilliant! Seeg Hyl! (Just in case you weren't joking, please post a reference. ;) )
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 21:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <jk3pae$khu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22442 |
On 3/17/12 PDT 5:04 AM, Warren Oates wrote: > > Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze > forst plas. Or at least like most American films portray Germans speaking English. Or: Arnold Schwartzenegger?l
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 08:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <4f65d951$0$9346$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22460 |
In article <jk3pae$khu$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > On 3/17/12 PDT 5:04 AM, Warren Oates wrote: > > > > Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze > > forst plas. > > Or at least like most American films portray Germans speaking English. > > Or: Arnold Schwartzenegger?l He's Austrian. -- ... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 15:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <569h39-e0h.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22462 |
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:47:09 -0400, Warren Oates wrote: > In article <jk3pae$khu$1@dont-email.me>, > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On 3/17/12 PDT 5:04 AM, Warren Oates wrote: >> > >> > Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in >> > ze forst plas. >> >> Or at least like most American films portray Germans speaking English. >> >> Or: Arnold Schwartzenegger?l > > He's Austrian. With the caveat that the Germans I come across tend to be those with a good education, engineers and the like, my experience is that nowadays I rarely hear the thick English accents portrayed by Hollywood. -- Paul Sture
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 12:32 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <RcudnUQeUtaVk_vSnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #22468 |
On 2012-03-18 10:48 , Paul Sture wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:47:09 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
>
>> In article<jk3pae$khu$1@dont-email.me>,
>> John McWilliams<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/17/12 PDT 5:04 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in
>>>> ze forst plas.
>>>
>>> Or at least like most American films portray Germans speaking English.
>>>
>>> Or: Arnold Schwartzenegger?l
>>
>> He's Austrian.
>
> With the caveat that the Germans I come across tend to be those with a
> good education, engineers and the like, my experience is that nowadays I
> rarely hear the thick English accents portrayed by Hollywood.
In my travels to Germany, Austria and Switzerland I hear the entire
spectrum of Germans speaking English. From barely comprehensible to
easy to mistake for a Brit, and in the middle somewhere is the Hollywood
version - almost.
(One client, who I'll call "Wolfgang" (because it's his real name) has
pretty clear English with an accent, but when he's irritated over a
delay or spec/contract non-compliance he goes quite Hollywood inspiring.)
--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.
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| From | Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 09:39 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <7i62e1x0zp.fsf@ethel.the.log> |
| In reply to | #22471 |
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes: > On 2012-03-18 10:48 , Paul Sture wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:47:09 -0400, Warren Oates wrote: > > > >> In article<jk3pae$khu$1@dont-email.me>, > >> John McWilliams<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On 3/17/12 PDT 5:04 AM, Warren Oates wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in > >>>> ze forst plas. > >>> > >>> Or at least like most American films portray Germans speaking English. > >>> > >>> Or: Arnold Schwartzenegger?l > >> > >> He's Austrian. > > > > With the caveat that the Germans I come across tend to be those with a > > good education, engineers and the like, my experience is that nowadays I > > rarely hear the thick English accents portrayed by Hollywood. > > In my travels to Germany, Austria and Switzerland I hear the entire > spectrum of Germans speaking English. From barely comprehensible to > easy to mistake for a Brit, and in the middle somewhere is the > Hollywood version - almost. I also hear an incredibly wide range of accents from Germans speaking English. The embarrassing part is that even the worst of them are probably better than my accent speaking German!
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 21:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <3nsh39-h8j.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22474 |
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:39:06 -0800, Doug Anderson wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes: > >> >> In my travels to Germany, Austria and Switzerland I hear the entire >> spectrum of Germans speaking English. From barely comprehensible to >> easy to mistake for a Brit, and in the middle somewhere is the >> Hollywood version - almost. It's quite amusing to see Germans baffled by Swiss German and switching to English instead. That also applies to quite a few Swiss French speakers: they do study German at school, but it's High German they learn. Last year I lunched in an army canteen and ended up translating for some new recruits who were trying to get across the language barrier. > I also hear an incredibly wide range of accents from Germans speaking > English. The embarrassing part is that even the worst of them are > probably better than my accent speaking German! I've got to the stage where bad German hurts my ears, but when I first tried German I got frustrated by getting an answer in perfect English :-) -- Paul Sture
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-18 16:48 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: incompetent headhunter spam |
| Message-ID | <cKOdnSS9S5ml1_vSnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #22480 |
On 2012-03-18 16:21 , Paul Sture wrote:
> It's quite amusing to see Germans baffled by Swiss German and switching
> to English instead. That also applies to quite a few Swiss French
> speakers: they do study German at school, but it's High German they
> learn. Last year I lunched in an army canteen and ended up translating
> for some new recruits who were trying to get across the language barrier.
I gave a presentation in Germany that had simultaneous translation from
German to French and vice versa depending on the speaker. The program
(Tiger helicopter (PAH-2)) was a French/German program so this official
meeting had to be in those languages (though much of the system spec was
in English). My boss of the day was also there and only understood English.
So I present in French and the Germans listened to the translation.
I opened by saying "My French is very Quebecois, so when translated to
German it may sound Swiss."
The French in the room all burst out laughing.
Then a delay (translation).
Then the Germans all burst out laughing.
Except my boss of course. He just sat there with that "What the hell
has he said now" expression on his face.
> I've got to the stage where bad German hurts my ears, but when I first
> tried German I got frustrated by getting an answer in perfect English :-)
I understand a little German, but can only order beer.
--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.
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