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  Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 01:09 -0400
    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 10:20 -0700
      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 15:02 -0400
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 14:15 -0500
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:51 -0700
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 14:54 -0500
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 22:58 -0700
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 12:28 -0700
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 15:04 -0500
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 22:59 -0700
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 00:36 -0400
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-01 18:56 +1300
              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 00:20 -0700
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 23:00 -0700
              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 06:00 -0400
                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 07:03 -0700
                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 14:16 -0400
                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 12:06 -0700
                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 01:25 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-02 18:42 +1300
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 02:50 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 09:56 +1300
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 20:59 -0400
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:57 -0700
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 23:26 -0400
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-02 21:08 -0700
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:27 -0500
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:38 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 17:40 +1300
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:38 -0500
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 09:24 +1300
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:18 -0800
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 07:27 -0500
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-05 09:14 -0800
                                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 13:46 -0500
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 03:15 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 16:25 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-02 18:59 -0500
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:54 -0700
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-02 22:26 -0500
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-02 22:29 -0500
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-02 20:31 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-02 21:09 -0700
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-11-03 00:29 -0800
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 07:04 -0600
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:37 -0700
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 09:47 -0600
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:56 -0700
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 10:06 -0600
                                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 12:05 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:33 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 20:07 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:55 -0700
                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-01 07:45 -0700
                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 14:02 -0400
                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-01 12:57 -0700
                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 01:30 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-02 11:12 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 15:07 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-02 13:14 -0700
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-11-03 08:33 +1100
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 12:06 +1300
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:49 -0700
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 07:06 -0700
    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 12:25 -0700
      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:54 -0700

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#51450 — Quicklook no longer plays Video?

I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.  
is this the same for everyone else?

I haven't checcked any other filetypes... but I suspect a few of them 
won't be available for a quick look either.

I'm really trying to be positive about Mavericks... but it's getting 
harder every day.  

Quicklook doesn't work as well as in Mt Lion.

MT Newswatcher doesn't work at all.

I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.

And the name of the OS *still* sucks.

I'm only running it on a secondary drive - so it's not imperative that 
everything works to my liking.  (I also have drives with Snow Leopard, 
Lion, Mt Lion, Windows XP and Windows 7 -  so it's not like I'm stuck 
with Mavericks.)

This new operating system may have been free - but I'm coming to the 
realization that it just ain't worth the price.

FPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51503

On 2013-10-31 05:09:33 +0000, FPP said:

> I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.
> is this the same for everyone else?

Works for me.

> I haven't checcked any other filetypes... but I suspect a few of them
> won't be available for a quick look either.

I don't know why.  It works with pages and numbers documents.

> I'm really trying to be positive about Mavericks... but it's getting
> harder every day.
> 
> Quicklook doesn't work as well as in Mt Lion.
> 
> MT Newswatcher doesn't work at all.

Hardly 10.9's fault, right?

> I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.

How did you open them with MLion?

> And the name of the OS *still* sucks.

10.9? Which don't you like, the 10 or the 9?  ;-)

> I'm only running it on a secondary drive - so it's not imperative that
> everything works to my liking.  (I also have drives with Snow Leopard,
> Lion, Mt Lion, Windows XP and Windows 7 -  so it's not like I'm stuck
> with Mavericks.)
> 
> This new operating system may have been free - but I'm coming to the
> realization that it just ain't worth the price.

Every OS change produces changes that some simply can't accept. 
Frequently they seem wholly inconsequential to me, but I know the 
changes that incur my wrath seem irrelevant to others as well.

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#51516

In article <2013103110205236184-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-10-31 05:09:33 +0000, FPP said:
> 
> > I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.
> > is this the same for everyone else?
> 
> Works for me.

I'm not alone in this one.  I'm seeing a lot of reports about some video 
files that worked in Mt Lion's Quicklook that don't work anymore.

> > I haven't checcked any other filetypes... but I suspect a few of them
> > won't be available for a quick look either.
> 
> I don't know why.  It works with pages and numbers documents.

These are Apple's own apps.  I used to be able to view many more 
formats, from eps to psd, etc.  I can't anymore...

> > MT Newswatcher doesn't work at all.

> Hardly 10.9's fault, right?

Nope... but it's another domino in the line.

> > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> 
> How did you open them with MLion?

 I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.

> > And the name of the OS *still* sucks.
> 
> 10.9? Which don't you like, the 10 or the 9?  ;-)

The name's suckage is just a personal preference.

FPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51517

On 2013-10-31 19:02:46 +0000, FPP said:

>>> I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
>> 
>> How did you open them with MLion?
> 
>  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't
> happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.

Yeah, they did.  Now you can open in a new tab instead.  Not quite as 
handy sometimes imo.

-- 
Lloyd

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#51525

On 2013-10-31 19:15:38 +0000, Lloyd  E Parsons said:

> On 2013-10-31 19:02:46 +0000, FPP said:
> 
>>>> I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
>>> 
>>> How did you open them with MLion?
>> 
>> I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't
>> happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
> 
> Yeah, they did.  Now you can open in a new tab instead.  Not quite as 
> handy sometimes imo.

Oh I see.  I use TotalFinder so maybe it works differently in Mavericks 
now, but I simply clikc-drag the tab off, if I want it in it's own 
stand-alone window.  Perhaps that works with Mavericks too.

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#51526

On 2013-10-31 19:51:22 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2013-10-31 19:15:38 +0000, Lloyd  E Parsons said:
> 
>> On 2013-10-31 19:02:46 +0000, FPP said:
>> 
>>>>> I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
>>>> 
>>>> How did you open them with MLion?
>>> 
>>> I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't
>>> happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
>> 
>> Yeah, they did.  Now you can open in a new tab instead.  Not quite as 
>> handy sometimes imo.
> 
> Oh I see.  I use TotalFinder so maybe it works differently in Mavericks 
> now, but I simply clikc-drag the tab off, if I want it in it's own 
> stand-alone window.  Perhaps that works with Mavericks too.

Yep, that's the way you do it in Mavericks.

-- 
Lloyd

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#51570

In article <2013103112512213218-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> > Yeah, they did.  Now you can open in a new tab instead.  Not quite as 
> > handy sometimes imo.
> 
> Oh I see.  I use TotalFinder so maybe it works differently in Mavericks 
> now, but I simply clikc-drag the tab off, if I want it in it's own 
> stand-alone window.  Perhaps that works with Mavericks too.

It does.  Also right-clicking/control-clicking/two-finger-clicking (on
a trackpad) opens a contextual menu which has "Open in new window" as
its first item.

-- Michelle

And, as I said, command-clicking opens in a new window.

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#51519

In article <fredp151-01AA84.15024631102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> > 
> > How did you open them with MLion?
> 
>  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
> happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.

Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.

-- Michelle

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#51532

In article <311020131228294873%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fredp151-01AA84.15024631102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> > > 
> > > How did you open them with MLion?
> > 
> >  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
> > happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
> 
> Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> 
> -- Michelle

Not on mine it doesn't.  That opens it in a new tab.

-- 
Lloyd

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#51571

In article <311020131504326988%lloydp21@live.com>, Lloyd
<lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

> > > > > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> > > > 
> > > > How did you open them with MLion?
> > > 
> > >  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
> > > happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
> > 
> > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> 
> Not on mine it doesn't.  That opens it in a new tab.

You can change that in Finder Preferences/General

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#51568

In article <311020131228294873%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fredp151-01AA84.15024631102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> > > 
> > > How did you open them with MLion?
> > 
> >  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
> > happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
> 
> Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> 
> -- Michelle

So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.

Kinda like Infiniti putting a starter crank back into its latest G model.

I wouldn't really like that, either...

FPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51569

In article <fredp151-7B0D86.00362801112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <311020131228294873%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <fredp151-01AA84.15024631102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
> > > > 
> > > > How did you open them with MLion?
> > > 
> > >  I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't 
> > > happen no more :-)  Apple removed the preference.
> > 
> > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> 
> So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.
> 
> Kinda like Infiniti putting a starter crank back into its latest G model.
> 
> I wouldn't really like that, either...

I don't have anything newer handy to check, but in Mac OS X 10.1
through to at least 10.5, you can click on the small gadget in the
top-right corner of the Finder windows to show / hide the toolbar(s).
When the toolbar is displayed, double-clicking folder opens in the same
window, but when the toolbar is hidden the double-clicked folder opens
in a new window.

If it still works in newer versions of Mac OS X, then it could be a
woraround until something like Tinker Tool adds the preference option
back in ... or there's probably a Terminal command to set it.

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#51574

In article <011120131856007558%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> I don't have anything newer handy to check, but in Mac OS X 10.1
> through to at least 10.5, you can click on the small gadget in the
> top-right corner of the Finder windows to show / hide the toolbar(s).

In Mountain Lion and Mavericks (and maybe in 106 and.or 10.7), that
gadget is gone.  Now it takes command-option-t or a menu command to
show or hide the toolbar.

> when the toolbar is hidden the double-clicked folder opens
> in a new window.

Same in Mavericks.

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#51572

In article <fredp151-7B0D86.00362801112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> 
> So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.

Microscopically harder.

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#51577

In article <311020132300493888%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fredp151-7B0D86.00362801112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> > > 
> > > -- Michelle
> > 
> > So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.
> 
> Microscopically harder.

Twice as hard, actually.  I've got two hands.  
Making me use two hands instead of one hand isn't microscopic - it's 
double the effort.  That's not microscopic, it's moronic.

Old way: Eyes on screen; locate folder; double-click folder.

New way: Eyes on keyboard; locate Cmd key; hold Cmd key; eyes on screen; 
locate folder; double-click folder.

Three steps vs six steps.  Easy vs harder.  

I'm not saying it's like climbing Everest - but it's a major annoyance 
when you do it five or six hours a day (before you get home and do it 
for fun for a few more hours.)

I do this for a living... It's a productivity killer.

My real beef is:

"What does removing an easier way to open a folder ADD to the user 
experience?"  

"How does making a simple, intuitive action more difficult make the 
experience BETTER?" 

If you can tell me where it's easier, or better I'll give you the point.  
It's not just *different* - it's worse!  

Was Steve jobs all about making things more complex?

FPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51581

In article <fredp151-01AFBF.06004701112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> > > > 
> > > > -- Michelle
> > > 
> > > So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.
> > 
> > Microscopically harder.
> 
> Twice as hard, actually.  I've got two hands.  

If you're not using the other hand to press the command key, what are
you doing with it?  Jerking off?

> Making me use two hands instead of one hand isn't microscopic - it's 
> double the effort.  That's not microscopic, it's moronic.
> 
> Old way: Eyes on screen; locate folder; double-click folder.
> 
> New way: Eyes on keyboard; locate Cmd key; hold Cmd key; eyes on screen; 
> locate folder; double-click folder.

I don't have to look at the keyboard to find the command key; I just
reach with my thumb while my hand is on the home keys. The difference
in time it takes me to command-click compared to just plain clicking is
immeasurable without sophisticated equipment.  By the time I've moved
the mouse pointer to where I want to click, my thumb is already on the
command key.

> "What does removing an easier way to open a folder ADD to the user 
> experience?"  
> 
> "How does making a simple, intuitive action more difficult make the 
> experience BETTER?" 
> 
> If you can tell me where it's easier, or better I'll give you the
> point.  
> It's not just *different* - it's worse!  

It's a side effect of having tabbed windows in the Finder.

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#51591

In article <011120130703537716%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fredp151-01AFBF.06004701112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > Command-double-click will open the folder in a new window.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Michelle
> > > > 
> > > > So they didn't remove the action... just made it harder to use.
> > > 
> > > Microscopically harder.
> > 
> > Twice as hard, actually.  I've got two hands.  
> 
> If you're not using the other hand to press the command key, what are
> you doing with it?  Jerking off?

Well, actually, yes - but since it's at work, it's figurative, rather 
than literal...

Usually, my other hand is either following a work order, sometimes using 
a densitometer or other measuring device.  Holding a sample, or a 
post-it note with some bit of info on it.  

I'm nearsighted, and ocassionally have to remove my (progessive) glasses 
to see something close up.  Couple that with other eye issues, and it 
makes a difference.  Not everybody can see 3 point condensed type from a 
football field away.

But the point isn't "What else are you doing?"  My point is "Why do I 
have to do something extra to accomplish the same task?"

I'm still not hearing how the new way using two hands instead of one is 
easier or better.  (Hint: because it's not...)

Look, I'm not saying it's the end of thr world... but it pisses me off, 
and makes Mavericks just a bit harder to use.

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51594

In article <fredp151-3D11EE.14163001112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm nearsighted, and ocassionally have to remove my (progessive) glasses 
> to see something close up.  Couple that with other eye issues, and it 
> makes a difference.  Not everybody can see 3 point condensed type from a 
> football field away.

I'm nearsighted too; I wear contacts, but need glasses to see the
screen clearly.  Well, sorta clearly; I have cataracts.

> But the point isn't "What else are you doing?"  My point is "Why do I 
> have to do something extra to accomplish the same task?"

Because it's a side effect of having tabbed windows, as best as I can
figure out.  The options for double-clicking would then be threefold
instead of only two.  That complicates the Finder Preferences panel.

> I'm still not hearing how the new way using two hands instead of one is 
> easier or better.  (Hint: because it's not...)

It's not easier or better, but it solves what I, and apparently Apple,
consider to be a bigger issue.

And for the vast majority of users, it's not an issue.

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#51610

In article <011120131206484441%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> I'm nearsighted too; I wear contacts, but need glasses to see the
> screen clearly.  Well, sorta clearly; I have cataracts.

I'm working on cataracts myself...  it's a few years away, I'm told.  I 
plan on surgery, when it becomes more pronounced.
> 
> And for the vast majority of users, it's not an issue.

On that we can agree.  It won't be a big issue for many, or most.  Why 
it should be an issue at all is my gripe.

And for the record, I still use a few programs in OSX that make it work 
more like OS9, as well.  I thought OS9 had some improvements over OSX.

Dragthing to get the Trash on the desktop, and restore pop-up drawers - 
and Classic Menu to banish the dock, and return the heirarchical Apple 
menu to the upper left corner... the way God intended it to be.

And don't get me started Apples removal of OS9's Windowshade...

fPP

-- 
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

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#51612

In article <fredp151-66FEA0.01251502112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <011120131206484441%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > I'm nearsighted too; I wear contacts, but need glasses to see the
> > screen clearly.  Well, sorta clearly; I have cataracts.
> 
> I'm working on cataracts myself...  it's a few years away, I'm told.  I 
> plan on surgery, when it becomes more pronounced.
> > 
> > And for the vast majority of users, it's not an issue.
> 
> On that we can agree.  It won't be a big issue for many, or most.  Why 
> it should be an issue at all is my gripe.
> 
> And for the record, I still use a few programs in OSX that make it work 
> more like OS9, as well.  I thought OS9 had some improvements over OSX.
> 
> Dragthing to get the Trash on the desktop, and restore pop-up drawers - 
> and Classic Menu to banish the dock, and return the heirarchical Apple 
> menu to the upper left corner... the way God intended it to be.
> 
> And don't get me started Apples removal of OS9's Windowshade...

Apple has a bit of a habit of "improving" while dropping features:

   - "upgrade" from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X (especially the early versions)
   - "upgrade" of iMovie
   - "upgrade" of iWork
   - "upgrade" of Final Cut
   - "upgrade" from .Mac to iCloud
   - "upgrades" of iMac which first lost the floppy drive, 
     then the optical drive, and soon the hard drive by 
     the look of it
   - "upgrades" of various Mac models which lost FireWire
   - "upgrade" of the Mac Pro which lost PCI slots (and
     potentially almost all other user-upgradeable parts)

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