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Quicklook no longer plays Video?

Started byFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
First post2013-10-31 01:09 -0400
Last post2013-10-31 12:54 -0700
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  Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 01:09 -0400
    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 10:20 -0700
      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 15:02 -0400
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 14:15 -0500
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:51 -0700
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 14:54 -0500
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 22:58 -0700
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 12:28 -0700
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 15:04 -0500
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 22:59 -0700
          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 00:36 -0400
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-01 18:56 +1300
              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 00:20 -0700
            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 23:00 -0700
              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 06:00 -0400
                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 07:03 -0700
                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 14:16 -0400
                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 12:06 -0700
                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 01:25 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-02 18:42 +1300
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 02:50 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 09:56 +1300
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 20:59 -0400
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:57 -0700
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 23:26 -0400
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-02 21:08 -0700
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:27 -0500
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:38 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 17:40 +1300
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:38 -0500
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 09:24 +1300
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:18 -0800
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 07:27 -0500
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-05 09:14 -0800
                                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 13:46 -0500
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 03:15 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 16:25 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-02 18:59 -0500
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:54 -0700
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-02 22:26 -0500
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-02 22:29 -0500
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-02 20:31 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-02 21:09 -0700
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-11-03 00:29 -0800
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 07:04 -0600
                                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:37 -0700
                                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 09:47 -0600
                                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:56 -0700
                                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-03 10:06 -0600
                                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 12:05 -0700
                                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:33 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 20:07 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:55 -0700
                Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-01 07:45 -0700
                  Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 14:02 -0400
                    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-01 12:57 -0700
                      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 01:30 -0400
                        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-02 11:12 -0700
                          Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 15:07 -0400
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-02 13:14 -0700
                            Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-11-03 08:33 +1100
                              Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 12:06 +1300
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:49 -0700
        Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 07:06 -0700
    Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 12:25 -0700
      Re: Quicklook no longer plays Video? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 12:54 -0700

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#51652

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2013-11-03 08:33 +1100
Message-ID<dorayme-A8AFA0.08333003112013@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#51643
In article 
<fredp151-307061.15075002112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> True, there are NO absolutes... (and ALL generalizations are False)

Are you sure about this?

-- 
dorayme

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#51662

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-11-03 12:06 +1300
Message-ID<031120131206412170%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#51652
In article <dorayme-A8AFA0.08333003112013@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article 
> <fredp151-307061.15075002112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > True, there are NO absolutes... (and ALL generalizations are False)
> 
> Are you sure about this?

In general, yes.  ;-)

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#51524

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-10-31 12:49 -0700
Message-ID<2013103112495273942-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#51516
On 2013-10-31 19:02:46 +0000, FPP said:

>>> I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.
>>> is this the same for everyone else?
>> 
>> Works for me.
> 
> I'm not alone in this one.  I'm seeing a lot of reports about some video
> files that worked in Mt Lion's Quicklook that don't work anymore.

I guess I'm lucky.  Which is pretty unusual...

> I used to be able to view many more formats, from eps to psd, etc.  I 
> can't anymore...

Just tried both. Both work for me.

>>> I can't open folders the way I could in Mt lion - the way I prefer.
>> 
>> How did you open them with MLion?
> 
> I double-clicked the folder, and it opened in a new window.  That don't
> happen no more :-)

The iconography means you're happy about that.

> Apple removed the preference.

Hmm. I've been double clicking with the apple key held down for many 
years in order to accomplish that. I'm sure that's not good enough, but 
I thought I'd let you know any way.

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#51582

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-11-01 07:06 -0700
Message-ID<011120130706367516%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51516
In article <fredp151-01AA84.15024631102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.
> > > is this the same for everyone else?
> > 
> > Works for me.
> 
> I'm not alone in this one.  I'm seeing a lot of reports about some video 
> files that worked in Mt Lion's Quicklook that don't work anymore.

I found this at tidbits.com:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2058298/why-mavericks-movies-may-not-pre
view-properly.html

Why Mavericks' movies may not preview properly

Reader Arlen Andrews has a concern about his movie files. He writes:
I recently upgraded to Mavericks and now when I attempt to preview a
movie file I see only a window telling me that the movie is zero KB in
size, which I know isn¹t true. When I double-click on the movie, it
opens in QuickTime Player X but then immediately converts. What¹s going
on?
This appears to be another under-the-hood change designed so that the
Mac OS better mimics the iOS. If you have one, find a movie file that
ends with .m4v. Dollars-to-doughnuts, if you select that file and press
the space bar, Quick Look will behave exactly as it should and show you
the movie. Now try it again with one of your .mov files. No dice,
right?
Right. And that¹s because Mavericks is very particular about the kinds
of movie codecs it allows. For example, I created a movie with
Telestream¹s Screenflow 4 and exported it using the application¹s
Lossless format (which uses the Animation codec by default). When I
attempted to preview the resulting movie with Quick Look I saw exactly
what you did‹a seemingly empty document. When I double-clicked on it,
QuickTime Player X launched, up popped a conversion window, and I had
to wait for that conversion to complete before I could view the movie.
(And now I had two copies of the movie‹the original Animation-codec
version and the converted version that used the Apple ProRes 4444
codec.)
However, movies using H.264 encoding previewed perfectly and opened in
QuickTime Player without requiring conversion.
So, in regard to encoding movies in the future, the trick is using
codecs that conform to QuickTime¹s whims. The Animation codec is
clearly codeca non grata, but H.264 and MPEG-4 movies (using
QuickTime¹s MPEG-4 codec) are aces. Also Apple provides a package of
codecs for the professional user as part of the ProApps QuickTime
Codecs package. (Your Mac must hold a copy of Final Cut Pro, Motion, or
Compressor to install this package.) The package adds support for the
Apple Intermediate, Apple ProRes, AVC-Intra, DVCPRO HD, HDV, XDCAM HD /
EX /, HD422, MPEG IMX, Uncompressed 4:2:2, and XAVC codecs. I encoded a
movie using the Apple ProRes 422 codec and it previewed and played as
it should.
As for those of you who simply want to play your now ill-favored movies
I¹m afraid there¹s currently no Quick Look solution. Until Apple or a
third-party creates a Quick Look plug-in that allows these affected
files to play you¹re going to have to open and convert them and then
preview the converted version.
However, if you don¹t care about previewing them but rather want to
play them without the conversion step, you have a couple of choices.
Zongyao Qu¹s free MPlayerX will play these movies without converting
them, plus it supports .avi files, which QuickTime won¹t touch.
The venerable (and oh-so-much-more-capable-than-QuickTime-Player-X) $30
QuickTime 7 Pro still works under Mavericks and it too will allow you
to open and play these movies without the conversion step.

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#51518

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-31 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<311020131225334343%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#51450
In article <fredp151-F9FED0.01093331102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.  
> is this the same for everyone else?

I noticed that if the .mov icon is a generic .mov icon, quicklook shows
that the file is zero bytes, and doesn't play it, even though Quicktime
Player can open it.  But if the icon contains a frame from the movie,
then Quicktime will play it.

None of my .mp4 files have a generic icon, so I can't test this
behavior for them.

Michelle

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#51527

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-10-31 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<2013103112541298591-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#51518
On 2013-10-31 19:25:33 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <fredp151-F9FED0.01093331102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that quicklook doesn't play my .mov or .mp4 files any longer.
>> is this the same for everyone else?
> 
> I noticed that if the .mov icon is a generic .mov icon, quicklook shows
> that the file is zero bytes, and doesn't play it, even though Quicktime
> Player can open it.  But if the icon contains a frame from the movie,
> then Quicktime will play it.

I noted that in previous OS's. But I've always thought that was because 
it wasn't actually a .mov file, just had a .mov suffix. Maybe 
"MediaInfo Mac" or "Media Inspector" would help in this regard.

> None of my .mp4 files have a generic icon, so I can't test this
> behavior for them.

I've found blank .mp4 files that quicklook plays correctly--they don't 
have an internal image associated with it to provide anything but a 
generic icon.

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