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  Getting two computers to talk to each other David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 10:45 -0800
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 18:50 +0000
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 08:58 +1300
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:59 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:49 -0500
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 20:57 -0500
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 09:58 +0000
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:13 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 15:01 +0000
                  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 21:06 +0000
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 16:57 -0500
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 17:05 -0500
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-30 14:12 -0800
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 22:02 +0000
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 17:51 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
                  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 17:08 +0000
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 23:03 +0000
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-02 00:57 +0000
                        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 21:23 -0600
                        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 04:54 +0000
                        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 09:29 -0500
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 08:58 +1300
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 21:13 +0000
                  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 13:53 -0800
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 22:09 +0000
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 22:40 -0800
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:41 +0000
                  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 13:39 +1300
                    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 08:27 +0000
                      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-01 09:45 +1300
                        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 22:33 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:15 +0100
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:49 +0000
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:22 +0100
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 00:55 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-01-30 02:45 +0100
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:30 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 18:18 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:54 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:53 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-30 03:44 -0500
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 10:00 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:59 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 09:02 +1300
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:32 -0500
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 12:26 -0800
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0100
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-31 00:49 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-31 03:55 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:25 +1300
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-01-30 20:02 -0600
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:27 +1300

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#55553 — Getting two computers to talk to each other

I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I never had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC. So far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the attached files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually connecting the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?

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#55554

On 2014-01-29, David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
> never had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I
> recently bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of
> software that does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from
> my Mac to the PC. So far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the
> files to myself as attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and
> downloading the attached files. But there's gotta be a better way that
> involves actually connecting the two computers to each other and
> sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd like one computer to show up
> as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so that I could directly
> move files back and forth. How is this done?

Here are the basics: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5884>

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#55560

In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I never
> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC. So
> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the attached
> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually connecting
> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd
> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so
> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?

The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
drive. 

You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
transfer a few files?

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#55561

In article <300120140858289573%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
> transfer a few files?

what hassle? turn on file sharing and connect.

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#55574

On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
> David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I never
>> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
>> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
>> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC. So
>> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
>> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the attached
>> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually connecting
>> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd
>> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so
>> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
>
> The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
> drive.
>
> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
> transfer a few files?

Hassle?


-- 
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
                                                   - Mike Tyson

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#55579

In article <ZaCdnc78U4IZDnTPnZ2dnUVZ_o4AAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
> > In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
> > David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I never
> >> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
> >> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
> >> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC.
> >> So
> >> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
> >> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the attached
> >> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually connecting
> >> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally,
> >> I'd
> >> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so
> >> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
> >
> > The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
> > drive.
> >
> > You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
> > really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
> > transfer a few files?
> 
> Hassle?

Networking is notouriously problematic, especialy if you don't know
what you're doing, although newer OSes have made it easier.

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#55586

On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <ZaCdnc78U4IZDnTPnZ2dnUVZ_o4AAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
>>> In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
>>> David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I never
>>>> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
>>>> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
>>>> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC.
>>>> So
>>>> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
>>>> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the attached
>>>> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually connecting
>>>> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally,
>>>> I'd
>>>> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so
>>>> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
>>>
>>> The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
>>> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
>>> transfer a few files?
>>
>> Hassle?
>
> Networking is notouriously problematic, especialy if you don't know
> what you're doing, although newer OSes have made it easier.

Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
it's all but trivial.

Indeed, with my first Mac I was calling my neighbor to tell him about 
network problems at HIS house...

-- 
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
                                                   - Mike Tyson

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#55597

In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
> > In article <ZaCdnc78U4IZDnTPnZ2dnUVZ_o4AAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >> On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
> >>> In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
> >>> David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
> >>>> never
> >>>> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
> >>>> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
> >>>> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC.
> >>>> So
> >>>> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
> >>>> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the
> >>>> attached
> >>>> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually
> >>>> connecting
> >>>> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally,
> >>>> I'd
> >>>> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop,
> >>>> so
> >>>> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
> >>>
> >>> The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
> >>> drive.
> >>>
> >>> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
> >>> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
> >>> transfer a few files?
> >>
> >> Hassle?
> >
> > Networking is notouriously problematic, especialy if you don't know
> > what you're doing, although newer OSes have made it easier.
> 
> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
> it's all but trivial.

More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
bleating about.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#55602

In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
>> > In article <ZaCdnc78U4IZDnTPnZ2dnUVZ_o4AAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> >> On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
>> >>> In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
>> >>> David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
>> >>>> never
>> >>>> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
>> >>>> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
>> >>>> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac to the PC.
>> >>>> So
>> >>>> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
>> >>>> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the
>> >>>> attached
>> >>>> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually
>> >>>> connecting
>> >>>> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally,
>> >>>> I'd
>> >>>> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop,
>> >>>> so
>> >>>> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
>> >>>
>> >>> The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
>> >>> drive.
>> >>>
>> >>> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
>> >>> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
>> >>> transfer a few files?
>> >>
>> >> Hassle?
>> >
>> > Networking is notouriously problematic, especialy if you don't know
>> > what you're doing, although newer OSes have made it easier.
>> 
>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
>> it's all but trivial.

> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
> bleating about.

Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.


-- 
'What shall we do?' said Twoflower.  'Panic?' said Rincewind hopefully.

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#55610

On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
>>> it's all but trivial.
>
>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>> bleating about.
>
> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.

Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
attest. ; )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#55619

In message <bkv7pbFk9mvU4@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
>>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
>>>> it's all but trivial.
>>
>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>>> bleating about.
>>
>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.

> Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
> attest. ; )

The first time I saw it I didn't believe it, thought it was a trick.

-- 
Was it everything you wanted to find? and did you miss me while you were
looking for yourself out there?

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#55622

In article <slrnlelfma.2k27.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <bkv7pbFk9mvU4@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> >>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
> >>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
> >>>> it's all but trivial.
> >>
> >>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
> >>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
> >>> bleating about.
> >>
> >> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
> >> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
> 
> > Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
> > attest. ; )
> 
> The first time I saw it I didn't believe it, thought it was a trick.

Remember there was an Energizer Bunny animation you could make "walk 
around" from screen to screen. I snuck it into a bunch of computers at 
the NFB one time and set it up, including four or five machines in a 
conference room, and then turned it on during a meeting. I knew it was 
working when I heard these huge guffaws coming from various offices and 
the conference room. Those were the days. Now they'd call the fucking 
cops and charge you with child molestation and disrespect of the 
Maxist-Lesbian Ethic or some such shit.

-- 

Fine then, I'm drinking coffee and rolling cigarettes and looking 
out at the hot baked street and a lady just walked by wiggling it 
in tight white pants, and we are not dead yet.

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#55624

In article <lcehsd$7vi$1@news.mixmin.net>, Wilbur Eleven
<wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> wrote:

> Remember there was an Energizer Bunny animation you could make "walk 
> around" from screen to screen. I snuck it into a bunch of computers at 
> the NFB one time and set it up, including four or five machines in a 
> conference room, and then turned it on during a meeting. I knew it was 
> working when I heard these huge guffaws coming from various offices and 
> the conference room. Those were the days. Now they'd call the fucking 
> cops and charge you with child molestation and disrespect of the 
> Maxist-Lesbian Ethic or some such shit.

that was netbunny, by dean yu, who later joined apple and later,
general magic. 

he also got sued by eveready and had to change it.

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#55626

In article <lcehsd$7vi$1@news.mixmin.net>,
 Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> wrote:

> In article <slrnlelfma.2k27.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <bkv7pbFk9mvU4@mid.individual.net> 
> >   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > >> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> > >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > >>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> > >>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
> > >>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
> > >>>> it's all but trivial.
> > >>
> > >>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
> > >>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
> > >>> bleating about.
> > >>
> > >> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
> > >> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
> > 
> > > Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
> > > attest. ; )
> > 
> > The first time I saw it I didn't believe it, thought it was a trick.
> 
> Remember there was an Energizer Bunny animation you could make "walk 
> around" from screen to screen. I snuck it into a bunch of computers at 
> the NFB one time and set it up, including four or five machines in a 
> conference room, and then turned it on during a meeting. I knew it was 
> working when I heard these huge guffaws coming from various offices and 
> the conference room. Those were the days. Now they'd call the fucking 
> cops and charge you with child molestation and disrespect of the 
> Maxist-Lesbian Ethic or some such shit.

<Snork> I remember the bunny well... 

Me and a couple of buddies spent several days getting it onto nearly 100 
networked Macs spread through the campus of the local community college, 
and fired it up. That bunny wandered around for months before they 
finally "cornered it" in one of the computer labs :)

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#55623

On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bkv7pbFk9mvU4@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
>>>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
>>>>> it's all but trivial.
>>>
>>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>>>> bleating about.
>>>
>>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
>>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
>
>> Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
>> attest. ; )
>
> The first time I saw it I didn't believe it, thought it was a trick.

It was definitely ahead of its time.

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#55627

In article <bl00erFpl94U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <bkv7pbFk9mvU4@mid.individual.net> 
> >   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> On 2014-01-30, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
> >>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> >>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply 
> >>>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today 
> >>>>> it's all but trivial.
> >>>
> >>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
> >>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
> >>>> bleating about.
> >>>
> >>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
> >>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
> >
> >> Which was quite magical, as those of us who were around at the time can
> >> attest. ; )
> >
> > The first time I saw it I didn't believe it, thought it was a trick.
> 
> It was definitely ahead of its time.

It was also incredibly insecure. I messed around the systems at the NFB 
and everyone seemed to use their name as a password. You could also log 
in to printers and change the settings, including remote printers a 
thousand miles away. I was in Montreal, and I could get into a printer 
in Moncton and set it to print 20 copies every time the button was 
pushed, and there was no one who'd know how it was done. NOTE: I never 
did this -- I restricted my tricks to changing the little notice on the 
printer's LED screens so it said "Fuck Off" or "Merry Christmas" or "Vas 
Chier" or like that, would make people in Monctonia scratch their froggy 
heads but not do any harm.

-- 

Fine then, I'm drinking coffee and rolling cigarettes and looking 
out at the hot baked street and a lady just walked by wiggling it 
in tight white pants, and we are not dead yet.

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#55713

On 2014.01.30, 08:13 , Lewis wrote:
> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net>
>    Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> On 2014.01.29, 19:24 , Your Name wrote:
>>>> In article <ZaCdnc78U4IZDnTPnZ2dnUVZ_o4AAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2014.01.29, 14:58 , Your Name wrote:
>>>>>> In article <941d0674-4af2-4aad-81ef-52a04b41905c@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac. I recently
>>>>>>> bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of software that
>>>>>>> does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from my Mac tothe PC.
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the files to myself as
>>>>>>> attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and downloading the
>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>> files. But there's gotta be a better way that involves actually
>>>>>>> connecting
>>>>>>> the two computers to each other and sending the files directly. Ideally,
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> like one computer to show up as an icon on the other computer's desktop,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that I could directly move files back and forth. How is this done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The easiest way is to simply use a USB flash drive or external hard
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could get the machines to connect over the network, but is it
>>>>>> really worth the hassle and likely problems of networking just to
>>>>>> transfer a few files?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hassle?
>>>>
>>>> Networking is notouriously problematic, especialy if you don't know
>>>> what you're doing, although newer OSes have made it easier.
>>>
>>> Even 10 years ago it was pretty easy for casual users by simply
>>> following "recipe" instruction found here or there on the web.  Today
>>> it's all but trivial.
>
>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>> bleating about.
>
> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.

I was a member of the other faith at the time.

-- 
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                                                   - Mike Tyson

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#55716

On 2014-02-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.01.30, 08:13 , Lewis wrote:
>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net>
>>    Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>>> bleating about.
>>
>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
>
> I was a member of the other faith at the time.

I was still doing Basic/Zilog Assembly programming on TRS-80s back then
and the experience of using Apple's LocalTalk networking on Macs was
magical compared with other networking solutions available for other
platforms at the time.

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#55740

In message <bl4o0eFpmdpU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.01.30, 08:13 , Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net>
>>>    Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>>>> bleating about.
>>>
>>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
>>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
>>
>> I was a member of the other faith at the time.

> I was still doing Basic/Zilog Assembly programming on TRS-80s back then
> and the experience of using Apple's LocalTalk networking on Macs was
> magical compared with other networking solutions available for other
> platforms at the time.

I remember hand wiring a serial cable to connect a computer to the other
using... damn, I don't remember how we got them to 'talk'.  All you
could do was type on one screen and see it on the other, but if you had
two people trying to talk it was garbled. Even that was magic.  Of
course, this was before any of us ever heard of the Internet or
modems.

-- 
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#55747

On 2014-02-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bl4o0eFpmdpU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2014.01.30, 08:13 , Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <300120140958183018%timstreater@greenbee.net>
>>>>    Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article <-u2dnf2PD4kFLHTPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More than 20 years ago it was pretty easy to connect a number of Macs
>>>>> on a LAN using AppleTalk. I don't know what the nameless one is
>>>>> bleating about.
>>>>
>>>> Hell, you could easily network the original Mac 128K. Just plug it in to
>>>> a chain of other Macs and VOILA! a LAN appeared as if by magic.
>>>
>>> I was a member of the other faith at the time.
>
>> I was still doing Basic/Zilog Assembly programming on TRS-80s back then
>> and the experience of using Apple's LocalTalk networking on Macs was
>> magical compared with other networking solutions available for other
>> platforms at the time.
>
> I remember hand wiring a serial cable to connect a computer to the other
> using... damn, I don't remember how we got them to 'talk'.  All you
> could do was type on one screen and see it on the other, but if you had
> two people trying to talk it was garbled. Even that was magic.  Of
> course, this was before any of us ever heard of the Internet or
> modems.

: )

I have fond memories of assembly language programming with a limited set
of registers etc, rebuilding TRS-DOS diskette directories by hand in
hexadecimal, repairing crappy disk drives by hand with a solder gun.
I feel those of us who learned computing and programming in those days
are actually pretty lucky, because it allowed us to gain a rudimentary
understanding of how things work that is harder to attain today,

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