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Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS :(

Started byLloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
First post2014-07-26 12:00 -0500
Last post2014-07-29 00:54 +0000
Articles 20 on this page of 465 — 30 participants

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  Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 12:00 -0500
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-26 12:34 -0500
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 13:11 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:45 +1200
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 18:01 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 11:03 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 11:27 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 14:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 13:21 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 16:44 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 14:46 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 19:09 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:40 +1200
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-26 20:06 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-26 15:04 -0700
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 00:41 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-26 23:17 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 13:12 +0200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-26 23:52 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 22:03 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 04:18 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-27 13:45 -0400
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 18:14 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 13:20 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 19:08 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:57 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 15:46 -0700
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-28 20:02 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 01:06 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 01:26 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 22:01 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-29 11:46 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 10:18 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-29 21:13 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:11 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 01:47 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:51 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 08:55 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:17 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-01 22:52 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 12:37 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 09:40 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 13:18 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:05 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:23 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 11:35 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:55 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:26 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 16:59 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:46 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 18:38 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 16:03 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 16:12 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 17:51 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:22 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-01 12:35 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:31 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-08-11 18:38 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 14:35 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-31 23:33 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:20 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 16:02 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-28 22:30 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 22:04 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 02:13 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:56 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 10:39 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 10:58 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 13:39 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 10:57 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 18:17 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-29 22:15 +0100
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:36 +1000
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-08-04 14:01 +0200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-04 11:32 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:09 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-07-29 21:49 -0500
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:11 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 23:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 08:05 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 13:34 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 11:10 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 23:12 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 16:07 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-30 00:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:59 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 09:32 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 13:39 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 15:10 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:51 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 11:37 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:11 -0500
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 15:14 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:48 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 23:20 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-30 00:19 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:48 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 15:58 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:21 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 13:36 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-29 20:38 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:18 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:21 +1000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:37 +1000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 13:33 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:55 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-30 00:10 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 09:23 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:27 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 11:30 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 10:34 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 16:30 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 13:37 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 17:10 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-30 22:05 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-30 23:16 +0100
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 02:09 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 17:56 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 09:29 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:56 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 11:25 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-31 16:31 +0100
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 12:17 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 14:39 -0700
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 03:01 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:51 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 19:18 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 03:31 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:25 -0700
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:33 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:52 -0700
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 14:56 -0400
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:01 -0700
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 15:13 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 15:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:49 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-01 23:09 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 03:53 -0400
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:29 -0400
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 15:55 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 13:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 16:53 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 16:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 14:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 14:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 03:56 -0400
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:32 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:03 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:36 +0000
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 17:25 -0700
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 17:22 -0700
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:05 -0400
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:23 +0000
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:08 -0400
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:17 -0700
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:33 -0400
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 09:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:30 -0400
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 10:38 -0700
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:46 -0400
                                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 10:51 -0700
                                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:57 -0400
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                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 11:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 15:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:32 +0100
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 10:45 +1200
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:43 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 19:21 -0700
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:38 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:32 -0700
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 16:46 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 13:17 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-31 20:28 +0100
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-31 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:34 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:01 +1200
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:09 +0000
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:10 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 14:12 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:53 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-08-01 12:18 +1200
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:31 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:13 +0000
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:14 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 15:21 +0000
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:48 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:42 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-07-30 22:39 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:57 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 15:45 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:43 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:48 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:06 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:41 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:17 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:31 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 15:58 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:50 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:16 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:24 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:41 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:50 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 13:29 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:06 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:34 -0500
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:48 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:56 -0500
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 22:22 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:44 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 20:58 -0500
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:14 +0000
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-02 07:13 -0500
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:11 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 00:56 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:07 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 04:02 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:32 -0500
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:01 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:30 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-02 12:41 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 19:46 -0500
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 01:44 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:36 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:59 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 11:21 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 10:58 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 15:06 +0000
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-26 13:30 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-07-26 21:11 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-26 17:28 -0400
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-07-26 15:11 -0700
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-07-27 07:28 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 07:54 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 10:01 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 12:16 -0500
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 09:29 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 14:53 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 15:34 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:29 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:00 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:20 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 22:04 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:49 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 23:07 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:23 +1200
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 23:34 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:58 +1200
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 08:39 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-28 09:45 -0700
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-29 09:15 +1200
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-07-29 06:35 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 18:32 -0500
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 20:36 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 23:44 -0500
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 09:03 +0200
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:32 +1200
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-27 23:14 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:32 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 14:53 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 08:44 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 18:00 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 11:16 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:22 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 09:36 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 08:47 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:23 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-27 13:50 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 12:58 +0200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-26 22:53 -0400
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-26 20:25 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 17:00 +1200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-26 22:57 -0700
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-27 13:27 -0500
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:54 +0000

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#62619

FromInvid Fan <invid@loclanet.com>
Date2014-07-29 23:10 -0400
Message-ID<290720142310390378%invid@loclanet.com>
In reply to#62583
In article <290720141456134308%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <290720141339113331%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
> <invid@loclanet.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Unfortunately, the same isn't happening with regard to bluetooth. The
> > > > only two bluetooth extended keyboards I can find are crap, all the
> > > > wireless options requiring a USB dongle. Why can't Apple make a
> > > > non-wired version of their extended keyboard?
> > > 
> > > they did. 
> > > 
> > > apple's first bluetooth keyboard was an extended keyboard with the same
> > > design as their pro keyboard, just without wires.
> > > 
> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_Keyboard_A1016_Russian.jpg>
> > > 
> > > the problem is that people who want wireless keyboards generally do not
> > > want huge keyboards. they want smaller ones that are portable, which is
> > > why their current bluetooth keyboard is not extended.
> > 
> > Yet there are tons of USB wireless full keyboards. So, there IS a
> > market, but not a bluetooth one. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
> 
> what's to figure out? 
> 
Why there are countless wireless USB extended keyboards but only around
two bluetooth that I could find (both of which looked like crap).

> apple makes a non-extended bluetooth keyboard that sells better than
> their older extended bluetooth keyboard. 
> 
Partly because it comes free with your computer :)

> for those who still want extended keyboards, they can buy a third party
> one or find apple's old used wireless keyboard.
> 
And that is fine. I'm living with what I have, and naturally will
survive, but just asked a question.

> > All I can think of is not enough Windows computers come with bluetooth
> > for companies that don't target Macs to bother. (Even Logictech sells a
> > wireless USB full keyboard which mirrors Apple's wired one, yet no
> > bluetooth)
> 
> there's nothing mac specific about a bluetooth keyboard. it's a
> standard human interface device (hid) and works on any system that
> supports the hid profile, which includes computers and smartphones.
> 
But if every mac sold has bluetooth, but few Windows computers, then a
company which doesn't care about the Mac market would not care about
offering a Bluetooth option. Which, again, seems to be the case given
the wireless full keyboards are USB.

> if a system lacks bluetooth (what kind of crap system doesn't have
> bluetooth?), then a bluetooth dongle can be added for very little
> money.

My sister's work computer, supplied by IBM so she can manage their
servers, doesn't have it. If it's not built in, there's no difference
between a USB and a Bluetooth dongle, perhaps another reason almost all
seem to be USB.

-- 
Chris Mack       "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan'             - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

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#62563

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-07-29 08:05 -0700
Message-ID<290720140805279804%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#62558
In article <290720141039067022%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
<invid@loclanet.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, the same isn't happening with regard to bluetooth. The
> only two bluetooth extended keyboards I can find are crap, all the
> wireless options requiring a USB dongle. Why can't Apple make a
> non-wired version of their extended keyboard?

I fully agree with you.  I'm using a Radio Shack wireless extended
keyboard that's marketed for the Macintosh.  It does use a USB dongle,
but that's no biggie for me.

It lists for forty bucks.
<http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33552236&filterNa
me=Price&filterValue=%2410.00+-+%2449.99>

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#62574

FromInvid Fan <invid@loclanet.com>
Date2014-07-29 13:34 -0400
Message-ID<290720141334306455%invid@loclanet.com>
In reply to#62563
In article <290720140805279804%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <290720141039067022%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
> <invid@loclanet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, the same isn't happening with regard to bluetooth. The
> > only two bluetooth extended keyboards I can find are crap, all the
> > wireless options requiring a USB dongle. Why can't Apple make a
> > non-wired version of their extended keyboard?
> 
> I fully agree with you.  I'm using a Radio Shack wireless extended
> keyboard that's marketed for the Macintosh.  It does use a USB dongle,
> but that's no biggie for me.
> 
The thing is, I want bluetooth to free up that usb port on my iMac. A
dongle doesn't help me in that regard. I can just plug in my old wired
keyboard if that's the case.

-- 
Chris Mack       "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan'             - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

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#62578

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-07-29 11:10 -0700
Message-ID<290720141110406608%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#62574
In article <290720141334306455%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
<invid@loclanet.com> wrote:

> > > Unfortunately, the same isn't happening with regard to bluetooth. The
> > > only two bluetooth extended keyboards I can find are crap, all the
> > > wireless options requiring a USB dongle. Why can't Apple make a
> > > non-wired version of their extended keyboard?
> > 
> > I fully agree with you.  I'm using a Radio Shack wireless extended
> > keyboard that's marketed for the Macintosh.  It does use a USB dongle,
> > but that's no biggie for me.
> > 
> The thing is, I want bluetooth to free up that usb port on my iMac. A
> dongle doesn't help me in that regard. I can just plug in my old wired
> keyboard if that's the case.

well, since I have more BT devices than I have ports, I need a hub
anyway, so using a dongle isn't that big a deal for me.  And even with
the dongle, I'm still eliminating a cable.

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#62582

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<290720141456124231%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62574
In article <290720141334306455%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
<invid@loclanet.com> wrote:

> The thing is, I want bluetooth to free up that usb port on my iMac. A
> dongle doesn't help me in that regard. I can just plug in my old wired
> keyboard if that's the case.

get a usb hub. they're cheap.

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#62620

FromInvid Fan <invid@loclanet.com>
Date2014-07-29 23:12 -0400
Message-ID<290720142312256709%invid@loclanet.com>
In reply to#62582
In article <290720141456124231%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <290720141334306455%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
> <invid@loclanet.com> wrote:
> 
> > The thing is, I want bluetooth to free up that usb port on my iMac. A
> > dongle doesn't help me in that regard. I can just plug in my old wired
> > keyboard if that's the case.
> 
> get a usb hub. they're cheap.

Oh, I have them. Just trying to avoid the things. Totally a First World
Problem.

-- 
Chris Mack       "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan'             - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

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#62621

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-07-30 16:07 +1200
Message-ID<300720141607402814%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#62620
In article <290720142312256709%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
<invid@loclanet.com> wrote:

> In article <290720141456124231%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <290720141334306455%invid@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
> > <invid@loclanet.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The thing is, I want bluetooth to free up that usb port on my iMac. A
> > > dongle doesn't help me in that regard. I can just plug in my old wired
> > > keyboard if that's the case.
> > 
> > get a usb hub. they're cheap.
> 
> Oh, I have them. Just trying to avoid the things. Totally a First World
> Problem.

Apple's wired keyboard is a USB hub (sort-of).  :-)

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#62622

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-07-30 00:10 -0400
Message-ID<300720140010500918%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62621
In article <300720141607402814%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Apple's wired keyboard is a USB hub (sort-of).  :-)

not sort of. 

it is.

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#62612

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-07-30 01:59 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltgkbu.1rhk.g.kreme@Amelia.local>
In reply to#62558
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:39:06 -0400 <290720141039067022%invid@loclanet.com>
> Unfortunately, the same isn't happening with regard to bluetooth. The
> only two bluetooth extended keyboards I can find are crap, all the
> wireless options requiring a USB dongle. Why can't Apple make a
> non-wired version of their extended keyboard?

The intersection of "user who will use a wireless keyboard" and "users
who want an extended keyboard" is a very small space. If the market was
there, Logitech would be there.

-- 
I am by nature made for my own good, not my own evil

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#62555

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-29 09:32 -0400
Message-ID<lr87q9$nb0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62532
On 2014-07-28 22:46:36 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <53d53ab8$0$17073$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Case in point: on IOS 7, they made a gratuitous animation to show in
>> which direstion to slide to unlock iPhone. At any one point in time ,
>> only a tiny portion of "slide to unlock" is visible, with the rest in
>> no-contrast colour.
> 
> And that makes the entire sentence extremely visible.  Maybe if you
> have an all-white background it might not be; I don't have that
> background, so I can't check it out.
> 
>> And this is what Apple is all about in UI. They rarely go back on a UI
>> decision.
> 
> That's because they rarely make a mistake that they need to go back on.

I wish they had gone back on less in Yosemite... :-)

If you have a light background, the desktop icon font is a lot harder 
to read than in Mavericks.

The menu font switch to Helvetica Neue is also a little harder to read 
than Lucida Grande.

I absolutely hate the new "stoplight" gadgets in the upper left  corner 
of the windows now.  I've gone into fullscreen by mistake about a dozen 
times now.

The smaller Apple logo in the upper left corner makes Classic Menu 
display itself a little screwier.  (But I think I can edit the resource 
files in the app to get that to work better.)

I won't even comment on performance... since that's to be expected.

Quicklook, at least, appears to work much faster now.
-- 
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#62557

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-07-29 13:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltf90k.1npd.g.kreme@Amelia.local>
In reply to#62555
Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:32:57 -0400 <lr87q9$nb0$1@dont-email.me>
> On 2014-07-28 22:46:36 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

>> In article <53d53ab8$0$17073$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Case in point: on IOS 7, they made a gratuitous animation to show in
>>> which direstion to slide to unlock iPhone. At any one point in time ,
>>> only a tiny portion of "slide to unlock" is visible, with the rest in
>>> no-contrast colour.
>> 
>> And that makes the entire sentence extremely visible.  Maybe if you
>> have an all-white background it might not be; I don't have that
>> background, so I can't check it out.
>> 
>>> And this is what Apple is all about in UI. They rarely go back on a UI
>>> decision.
>> 
>> That's because they rarely make a mistake that they need to go back on.

> I wish they had gone back on less in Yosemite... :-)

> If you have a light background, the desktop icon font is a lot harder 
> to read than in Mavericks.

> The menu font switch to Helvetica Neue is also a little harder to read 
> than Lucida Grande.

10.10 Yosemite is designed for retina displays.

> I absolutely hate the new "stoplight" gadgets in the upper left  corner 
> of the windows now.  I've gone into fullscreen by mistake about a dozen 
> times now.

I can say with a great degree of certainty that in all my years of using
OS X I have *never* accidentally clicked the green light, which has been
there since 10.0 Public Beta and is not in any way 'new'.

> The smaller Apple logo in the upper left corner makes Classic Menu 
> display itself a little screwier. 

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

-- 
'And stars don't care what you wish, and magic don't make things better,
and no-one doesn't get burned who sticks their hand in a fire.'

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#62565

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-07-29 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<lr8dh7$5ut$3@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#62557
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes, quoting
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>:

> > The smaller Apple logo in the upper left corner makes Classic Menu 
> > display itself a little screwier. 
> 
> I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/

Billy Y..
-- 
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	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#62610

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-07-30 01:51 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltgjt2.1rhk.g.kreme@Amelia.local>
In reply to#62565
Okay, so one time? In band camp? billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:10:31 +0000 (UTC) <lr8dh7$5ut$3@reader2.panix.com>
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes, quoting
> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>:

>> > The smaller Apple logo in the upper left corner makes Classic Menu 
>> > display itself a little screwier. 
>> 
>> I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

> http://www.sigsoftware.com/classicmenu/

This has what to do with OS X 10.10?


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#62567

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-29 11:37 -0400
Message-ID<lr8f4j$f2d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62557
On 2014-07-29 13:39:32 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>  --> 	 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:32:57 -0400 <lr87q9$nb0$1@dont-email.me>
>> On 2014-07-28 22:46:36 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:
> 
>>> In article <53d53ab8$0$17073$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>>> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Case in point: on IOS 7, they made a gratuitous animation to show in
>>>> which direstion to slide to unlock iPhone. At any one point in time ,
>>>> only a tiny portion of "slide to unlock" is visible, with the rest in
>>>> no-contrast colour.
>>> 
>>> And that makes the entire sentence extremely visible.  Maybe if you
>>> have an all-white background it might not be; I don't have that
>>> background, so I can't check it out.
>>> 
>>>> And this is what Apple is all about in UI. They rarely go back on a UI
>>>> decision.
>>> 
>>> That's because they rarely make a mistake that they need to go back on.
> 
>> I wish they had gone back on less in Yosemite... :-)
> 
>> If you have a light background, the desktop icon font is a lot harder
>> to read than in Mavericks.
> 
>> The menu font switch to Helvetica Neue is also a little harder to read
>> than Lucida Grande.
> 
> 10.10 Yosemite is designed for retina displays.
> 
>> I absolutely hate the new "stoplight" gadgets in the upper left  corner
>> of the windows now.  I've gone into fullscreen by mistake about a dozen
>> times now.
> 
> I can say with a great degree of certainty that in all my years of using
> OS X I have *never* accidentally clicked the green light, which has been
> there since 10.0 Public Beta and is not in any way 'new'.
> 
>> The smaller Apple logo in the upper left corner makes Classic Menu
>> display itself a little screwier.
> 
> I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

I can clear some of that up.  OK... by the numbers.

I never said I CLICKED the green stoplight by mistake.  (Okay... maybe 
once, or twice.)  What I'm referring to is how the green light 
FUNCTIONS now.  It no longer makes the window LARGER - it toggles 
FULLSCREEN.  It didn't used to do that.

Classic Menu is a small app that returns the hierarchical Apple menu, a 
la OS9. (It replaces the current Apple logo in the menubar with it's 
own colored apple.)  Now that Yosemite has made that apple logo a tad 
smaller, it no longer matches Classic Menu's apple, and it's appearance 
is jumbled.  (That I can fix by editing the mask resource within the 
app itself.  Minor annoyance.)

As far as Yosemite being designed for Retina Displays... if that's 
true, it's a pretty stupid move.  It's Microsoft Zune stupid.

I work in Pre-Press at at Printing company.  We use many Macs... none 
of which are Retinas.  Catering to the minority of users at the expense 
of the majority of users is just plain dumb.  That's not a word I'm 
used to using when it comes to Apple.

We have light grey (neutral) desktop backgrounds so as to not distract 
when color matching.  Making the icons harder to read against light 
backgrounds does not help.  Mavericks seems to look OK... what is the 
upside to changing something like that in Yosemite?

All in all, I like the flatter look... it's just that some of the 
changes appear to be just for the sake of change. BRIGHT BLUE folders?  
Like I said before... we use neutral backgrounds because bright colors 
make it harder to color correct.  Them folders are retina burners...  
It'll be the first system resource I'll edit.  The Finder icon will be 
the second.
-- 
It's 99% of politicians that give the rest a bad name

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#62581

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<290720141456104143%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62567
In article <lr8f4j$f2d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as Yosemite being designed for Retina Displays... if that's 
> true, it's a pretty stupid move.  It's Microsoft Zune stupid.
> 
> I work in Pre-Press at at Printing company.  We use many Macs... none 
> of which are Retinas.  Catering to the minority of users at the expense 
> of the majority of users is just plain dumb.  That's not a word I'm 
> used to using when it comes to Apple.

apple sells a *lot* more laptops than desktops and the macbook pros
have retina displays (other than the 3 year old model).

it's a very smart move to support retina since upscaled graphics and
text doesn't look as good on retina displays, and because future
systems will be retina.

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#62584

FromLloyd <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2014-07-29 14:11 -0500
Message-ID<lr8rl8$djg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62581
> In article <lr8f4j$f2d$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As far as Yosemite being designed for Retina Displays... if that's
>> true, it's a pretty stupid move.  It's Microsoft Zune stupid.
>>
>> I work in Pre-Press at at Printing company.  We use many Macs... none
>> of which are Retinas.  Catering to the minority of users at the expense
>> of the majority of users is just plain dumb.  That's not a word I'm
>> used to using when it comes to Apple.
>
> apple sells a *lot* more laptops than desktops and the macbook pros
> have retina displays (other than the 3 year old model).
>
> it's a very smart move to support retina since upscaled graphics and
> text doesn't look as good on retina displays, and because future
> systems will be retina.
>
I don't have a problem with having support for retina, but I do have a problem with not giving enough control to change things around for those of is that don't have retina displays.

--
--

Lloyd
from Asus T100

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#62585

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-07-29 15:14 -0400
Message-ID<290720141514430911%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62584
In article <lr8rl8$djg$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com>
wrote:

> >> As far as Yosemite being designed for Retina Displays... if that's
> >> true, it's a pretty stupid move.  It's Microsoft Zune stupid.
> >>
> >> I work in Pre-Press at at Printing company.  We use many Macs... none
> >> of which are Retinas.  Catering to the minority of users at the expense
> >> of the majority of users is just plain dumb.  That's not a word I'm
> >> used to using when it comes to Apple.
> >
> > apple sells a *lot* more laptops than desktops and the macbook pros
> > have retina displays (other than the 3 year old model).
> >
> > it's a very smart move to support retina since upscaled graphics and
> > text doesn't look as good on retina displays, and because future
> > systems will be retina.
> >
> I don't have a problem with having support for retina, but I do have a
> problem with not giving enough control to change things around for those of
> is that don't have retina displays.

change what?

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#62586

FromLloyd <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2014-07-29 14:48 -0500
Message-ID<lr8tq2$t3s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62585
> In article <lr8rl8$djg$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >> As far as Yosemite being designed for Retina Displays... if that's
>> >> true, it's a pretty stupid move.  It's Microsoft Zune stupid.
>> >>
>> >> I work in Pre-Press at at Printing company.  We use many Macs... none
>> >> of which are Retinas.  Catering to the minority of users at the expense
>> >> of the majority of users is just plain dumb.  That's not a word I'm
>> >> used to using when it comes to Apple.
>> >
>> > apple sells a *lot* more laptops than desktops and the macbook pros
>> > have retina displays (other than the 3 year old model).
>> >
>> > it's a very smart move to support retina since upscaled graphics and
>> > text doesn't look as good on retina displays, and because future
>> > systems will be retina.
>> >
>> I don't have a problem with having support for retina, but I do have a
>> problem with not giving enough control to change things around for those of
>> is that don't have retina displays.
>
> change what?
>
System fonts, Safari color scheme, line widths and the list goes on. As it is right noe the UI is boring and flat as hell with poor contrast and all pale colorings.

--
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Lloyd
from Asus T100

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#62598

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-07-29 23:20 +0000
Message-ID<lr9a89$35u$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#62586
Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> writes:

> > change what?
> >
> System fonts

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html appears to
be able to do some of this (I have not tried it).  It's
author is a very sharp guy.

> Safari color scheme, line widths and the list goes on.

Perhaps one could fire up Xcode and edit the various NIB
(Nextstep Interface Builder) modules.  That'd be a bit of
work - Safari has many of them.

I've done this in the past, but not lately, so I don't
know if it remains a viable option.

Resexcellence used to be a good source of info, but it
was taken down for a few years, and although it's back
up now, there's not much info for newer OS X versions.

http://www.resexcellence.com

Billy Y..
-- 
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#62603

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
Message-ID<290720141933332693%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62598
In article <lr9a89$35u$1@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:

> Perhaps one could fire up Xcode and edit the various NIB
> (Nextstep Interface Builder) modules.  That'd be a bit of
> work - Safari has many of them.
> 
> I've done this in the past, but not lately, so I don't
> know if it remains a viable option.

it will break any codesigned app.

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