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  Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 09:55 -0700
    Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-05-26 19:25 +0200
    Re: Kids react to old computers Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2014-05-26 19:02 +0100
      Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-27 08:53 +1200
        Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 13:59 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-27 01:18 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:53 +1200
          Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-05-28 08:30 +0200
            Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-28 19:01 +1200
            Re: Kids react to old computers jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 19:34 +1200
              Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-05-28 10:06 +0200
                Re: Kids react to old computers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 09:06 +0000
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-05-28 12:30 +0200
              Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-29 08:58 +1200
                Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-06-03 16:59 +0200
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:24 +1200
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-06-04 08:50 +0200
                      Re: Kids react to old computers David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-06-04 08:11 +0100
                      Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 19:19 +1200
                        Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-06-04 14:39 +0200
                          Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:33 +1200
                            Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2014-06-05 09:05 +0200
                Re: Kids react to old computers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-07 09:06 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-07 14:04 -0700
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-08 00:17 +0000
                      Re: Kids react to old computers Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2014-07-08 14:36 -0600
                        Re: Kids react to old computers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-09 01:12 +0000
                          Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-08 21:22 -0400
                            Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-09 13:40 +1200
                              Re: Kids react to old computers Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2014-07-09 15:13 -0600
                                Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-10 09:34 +1200
                            Re: Kids react to old computers Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2014-07-09 08:03 -0600
                              Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-10 09:18 +1200
                        Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-09 13:42 +1200
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-07 22:43 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-08 09:17 +1200
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-07 22:44 -0400
                      Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 13:59 +1000
                      Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-08 16:10 +1200
    Re: Kids react to old computers Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-05-26 19:05 +0100
      Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 13:53 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-26 17:23 -0400
          Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 18:09 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-27 01:19 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-05-26 22:23 +0100
          Re: Kids react to old computers bknight@conramp.net - 2014-05-26 16:48 -0500
            Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 15:10 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-05-27 08:43 +1000
          Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 18:08 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-05-27 13:31 +0100
          Re: Kids react to old computers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-27 05:14 +0000
          Re: Kids react to old computers "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:04 -0400
            Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-27 15:38 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-05-27 23:58 +0100
    Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:14 -0700
      Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-26 13:49 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 14:12 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-26 17:57 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-26 18:07 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 18:39 -0700
              Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-26 20:20 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-07 22:23 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-07 20:13 -0700
              Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-07 20:31 -0700
                Re: Kids react to old computers "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-07-14 17:45 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-15 10:19 -0700
      Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:19 -0400
        Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 17:24 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-26 22:16 -0400
            Re: Kids react to old computers Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 08:41 +0100
          Re: Kids react to old computers TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-05-26 21:48 -0500
        Re: Kids react to old computers mortman <mortn@comcast.net> - 2014-05-26 21:12 -0400
        Re: Kids react to old computers Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-26 21:00 -0500
          Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 19:35 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-27 16:08 +1200
            Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 22:00 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-27 18:06 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 18:16 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-05-27 10:22 -0500
            Re: Kids react to old computers Harry Mudd <Agent001@Section-31.org> - 2014-06-04 22:48 -0400
          Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
            Re: Kids react to old computers Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-27 16:13 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-28 09:02 +1200
                Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-27 18:15 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-28 17:10 +1200
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-05-28 15:44 +0000
                      Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-31 07:47 -0700
                Re: Kids react to old computers Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-28 00:41 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 21:50 -0700
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-28 18:11 +1200
      Re: Kids react to old computers erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-05-27 10:20 -0500
    Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-27 01:17 -0700
    Re: Kids react to old computers erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-05-27 10:18 -0500
      Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:17 -0700
      Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-27 09:36 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:47 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-27 12:27 -0700
    Re: Kids react to old computers Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-27 16:40 -0400
      Re: Kids react to old computers Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-28 00:25 -0400
        Re: Kids react to old computers Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:12 -0400
          Re: Kids react to old computers Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-01 14:45 +0000
            Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-02 09:24 +1200
              Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-02 14:45 +1200
    Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 19:42 +0200
      Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 14:01 -0400
        Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:01 +0200
          Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:29 -0400
            Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 06:14 +0200
              Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-06 01:33 -0400
                Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-05 23:22 -0700
                  Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-06 02:36 -0400
                    Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-06 02:41 -0400
                      Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:21 +0200
                        Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 10:13 -0400
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-06 00:00 -0700
                    Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:20 +0200
                      Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 11:52 +1000
                        Re: Kids react to old computers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:08 +0000
                          Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 07:48 +1000
                        Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-07 23:43 -0700
                          Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:36 +1000
                            Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-08 03:09 -0700
                              Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 07:15 +1000
                      Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 10:13 -0400
                Re: Kids react to old computers Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:18 +0200
                  Re: Kids react to old computers Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-07 18:03 +0100
                    Re: Kids react to old computers News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-07 14:08 -0400
                  Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 11:51 +1000
                  Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 13:46 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-06 18:36 +1200
        Re: Kids react to old computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:51 +1000
      Re: Kids react to old computers Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-01 21:54 -0400
    Re: Kids react to old computers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-07-07 09:05 -0400
      Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-09 06:58 -0700
        Re: Kids react to old computers Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-09 07:01 -0700
          Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-09 07:02 -0700
            Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-09 12:24 -0400
            Re: Kids react to old computers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-09 18:00 +0000
            Re: Kids react to old computers JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-09 16:01 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-09 16:21 -0400
              Re: Kids react to old computers Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-09 13:40 -0700
      Re: Kids react to old computers Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-09 07:04 -0700

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#59701

In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> > reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >
> > -- Michelle
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >
> 
> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're 
> rather like the adults. :-)

Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?

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#59705

On 14-05-26 16:53, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?

Yes. very differently.  For one thing, their accent would have been
totally different :-) :-)

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#59719

In article <5383b0eb$0$61447$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-05-26 16:53, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> 
> Yes. very differently.  For one thing, their accent would have been
> totally different :-) :-)
> 
I'll buy that.

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#59743

On 5/26/2014 6:09 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

> I'll buy that.

For a dollar? [grin] ;)
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#59706

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
> <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>>
>>> -- Michelle
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>>>
>>
>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
>> rather like the adults. :-)
>
> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
>

Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.

Ed

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#59708

On Mon, 26 May 2014 22:23:03 +0100, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
wrote:

>Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
>> <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>>>
>>>> -- Michelle
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
>>> rather like the adults. :-)
>>
>> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
>>
>
>Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
>respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
>its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
>produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
>
>Ed
>
I've stayed clear of this thread even though I too had a 
Commodore and thought it was great....at the time.

However your post brings only one word to mind;
Bullshit.

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#59710

In article <qid7o99svb0f2ihs9kt6egst3mb77bt52d@4ax.com>, bknight@conramp.net 
wrote:

> On Mon, 26 May 2014 22:23:03 +0100, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> >Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >> In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
> >> <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> >>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Michelle
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
> >>> rather like the adults. :-)
> >>
> >> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> >>
> >
> >Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> >respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> >its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> >produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
> >
> >Ed
> >
> I've stayed clear of this thread even though I too had a 
> Commodore and thought it was great....at the time.
> 
> However your post brings only one word to mind;
> Bullshit.

Why are you worrying about Apple 2s, Commodores, and other nonsense? There's a 
new game in town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R706isyDrqI

-- 
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#59713

In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>,
 Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
> > <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> >>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >>>
> >>> -- Michelle
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >>>
> >>
> >> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
> >> rather like the adults. :-)
> >
> > Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> >
> 
> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
> 
> Ed

Quite right. Plus they would have put any coins in their savings and 
given them to people poorer than themselves and made their mums a nice 
cup of tea.

-- 
dorayme

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#59717

In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

> >>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> >>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >>>
> >>> -- Michelle
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >>>
> >>
> >> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
> >> rather like the adults. :-)
> >
> > Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> >
> 
> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.

Frankly, I doubt that.

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#59745

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
> <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Michelle
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
>>>> rather like the adults. :-)
>>>
>>> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring
>> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of
>> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't
>> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
>
> Frankly, I doubt that.
>

And later they would have proclaimed with great enthusiasm and gusto; 
"Daddy, daddy, those were exciting times you lived through. The whole of 
IT was exploding into new territory. The white-hot heat of that 
technological revolution must have been thoroughly palpable; and very 
uplifting.
Tell me more, tell me more".

Ed

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#59734

In message <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me> 
  Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <llvvrc$71i$1@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
>> <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>>>
>>>> -- Michelle
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
>>> rather like the adults. :-)
>>
>> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
>>

> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.


Uh huh, sure they would have.

"Wo's dis den, this is shite!" would be more likely. Well, depending on
the kid, and the school the kid went to.

-- 
A man does not make his destiny: he accepts it or denies it.

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#59761

In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>,
 Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > Ed Cryer wrote:
> >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>
> >>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> >>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >>
> >> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
> >> rather like the adults. :-)
> >
> > Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> 
> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.

Riiiight. If we presented you with a butter churn and a bucket of cream 
and told you that was the only way you'd be able to butter your 
crumpets, you'd piss and moan about the work involved: "Why can't I just 
go to Tesco and pick up a packet?"

-- 
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
GOP delenda est!

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#59767

In article <dfmanno-4D25E1.17045127052014@news.albasani.net>,
 "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:

> In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > > Ed Cryer wrote:
> > >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> > >>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> > >>
> > >> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
> > >> rather like the adults. :-)
> > >
> > > Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
> > 
> > Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring 
> > respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of 
> > its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't 
> > produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
> 
> Riiiight. If we presented you with a butter churn and a bucket of cream 
> and told you that was the only way you'd be able to butter your 
> crumpets, you'd piss and moan about the work involved: "Why can't I just 
> go to Tesco and pick up a packet?"

One of the class projects in second grade was to pass around a bottle of creme, 
each of us shaking it a few minutes before passing it on. By the end we had a 
jar of butter and buttermilk, and ate the butter on saltine crackers.

-- 
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.

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#59769

D.F. Manno wrote:
> In article <lm0beb$28t$1@dont-email.me>,
>   Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>>>>
>>>> Those USA kids have very little historical perspective. In fact, they're
>>>> rather like the adults. :-)
>>>
>>> Do you think that kids in the UK would have reacted any differently?
>>
>> Yes. They would have sat back and given the equipment the admiring
>> respect for a former technology. They would have seen it in context of
>> its time rather than rush at it and start moaning that it wouldn't
>> produce a nice ice-cream cornet when shouted at.
>
> Riiiight. If we presented you with a butter churn and a bucket of cream
> and told you that was the only way you'd be able to butter your
> crumpets, you'd piss and moan about the work involved: "Why can't I just
> go to Tesco and pick up a packet?"
>

You've missed the point of the kids' participation exercise. They're not 
being told this is what you have from now on. They're being told this is 
how a previous generation had it.

We have kids who do school topics on WWI life in the trenches at Mons 
and Paschendaele. Not preparing to go and live like that; but getting to 
understand what it was like.
We have kids learning about the battle of Hastings in 1066; and they're 
not planning to go and form a shield-wall on the top of Senlac Hill; but 
getting to understand what it was like.
We have kids researching life under the British Raj in India; and 
they're not planning to go and reconquer the country; but getting to 
understand what it was like.

That's all part of a rounded education; seeing how we got to where we 
are and how it's moulded and changed us all. It helps tremendously in 
creating people who can empathise better, sympathise better, be better 
leaders of others.

Ed

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#59699

In article <260520140955077061%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> 
> -- Michelle
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zk1zByXpBk

While Wozniak was working on Apple 2, I was working on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLlfXZMBXg

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.

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#59700

In article 
<chine.bleu-20BC42.12141526052014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <260520140955077061%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> > reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zk1zByXpBk
> 
> While Wozniak was working on Apple 2, I was working on
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLlfXZMBXg

I haven't seen NOS since my 2nd job in 1981.  And yes, it was on a CDC 
machine.  60-bit machine. Last 2 registers to read/write to memory.  
Very strange.

-- 
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#59704

In article <vilain-FA9AF8.13491226052014@news.individual.net>,
 Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article 
> <chine.bleu-20BC42.12141526052014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <260520140955077061%michelle@michelle.org>,
> >  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> > > reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> > > 
> > > -- Michelle
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zk1zByXpBk
> > 
> > While Wozniak was working on Apple 2, I was working on
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLlfXZMBXg
> 
> I haven't seen NOS since my 2nd job in 1981.  And yes, it was on a CDC 
> machine.  60-bit machine. Last 2 registers to read/write to memory.  
> Very strange.

There are emulators if you want to run it again.

-- 
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.

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#59716

On 2014-05-26 20:49:12 +0000, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> said:

> In article
> <chine.bleu-20BC42.12141526052014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <260520140955077061%michelle@michelle.org>,
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
>>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
>>> 
>>> -- Michelle
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zk1zByXpBk
>> 
>> While Wozniak was working on Apple 2, I was working on
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLlfXZMBXg
> 
> I haven't seen NOS since my 2nd job in 1981.  And yes, it was on a CDC
> machine.  60-bit machine. Last 2 registers to read/write to memory.
> Very strange.

My initiation into FORTRAN was on two NCR machines, a Century 100 and a 
Century 200. That got me moving beyond the abacus & slide rule, though 
there has never really been anything to replace those two. I still have 
two, at ;east 50 year old, yellowing slide rules in my aging artifact 
pile.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#59718

In article <2014052617572585979-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2014-05-26 20:49:12 +0000, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> said:
> 
> > In article
> > <chine.bleu-20BC42.12141526052014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> In article <260520140955077061%michelle@michelle.org>,
> >> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> They're using an Apple ][, but would have had essentially the same
> >>> reaction if it had been a Commodore PET or TRS-80.
> >>> 
> >>> -- Michelle
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zk1zByXpBk
> >> 
> >> While Wozniak was working on Apple 2, I was working on
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLlfXZMBXg
> > 
> > I haven't seen NOS since my 2nd job in 1981.  And yes, it was on a CDC
> > machine.  60-bit machine. Last 2 registers to read/write to memory.
> > Very strange.
> 
> My initiation into FORTRAN was on two NCR machines, a Century 100 and a 
> Century 200. That got me moving beyond the abacus & slide rule, though 
> there has never really been anything to replace those two. I still have 
> two, at ;east 50 year old, yellowing slide rules in my aging artifact 
> pile.

I kept the Pickett Slide Rule my father proudly gave me for a high 
school graduation present. Once the HP45 came down in price, I never 
touched it again.

-- 
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#59723

In article <vilain-0959DE.18075326052014@news.individual.net>,
 Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> I kept the Pickett Slide Rule my father proudly gave me for a high 
> school graduation present. Once the HP45 came down in price, I never 
> touched it again.

A, B, C, D, S, T, LL1, LL2, LL3. So much fun.

> -- 
> DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...

DeeDee don't lose that newsgroup.
It's the only one that hasn't plonked you.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.

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