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| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| First post | 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200 |
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Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 06:53 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 14:11 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-21 17:14 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-05-23 23:13 -0500
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-21 16:54 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 22:53 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-05-21 19:16 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:26 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 18:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-21 18:55 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:30 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-22 09:25 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:19 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-22 14:23 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 17:50 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 10:47 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-22 15:22 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-22 08:57 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Happynet Steering Society <bo@ChOMp.ru.ca.us.fr> - 2014-05-23 09:30 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:47 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-22 19:14 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 10:27 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-22 11:05 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-05-22 08:52 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:32 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-23 15:53 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:19 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-22 16:26 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-22 11:32 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-26 17:53 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 18:14 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 07:55 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 15:15 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:36 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-27 19:17 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:13 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 15:40 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 21:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:24 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 19:12 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 17:28 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 23:25 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:43 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-30 08:51 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:46 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-27 22:26 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:20 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-28 16:18 +0100
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 10:30 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-05-31 07:41 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:31 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-27 18:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-27 15:59 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-27 21:14 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-28 13:57 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:40 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Smackdown Sally <smackdown@fuck.all.of.you.too.eh> - 2014-05-28 12:42 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 23:06 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 09:59 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 02:34 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 07:43 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 03:14 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2014-05-31 17:22 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-05-31 15:06 -0700
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:29 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-31 20:18 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-01 18:38 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:40 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:22 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:04 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-05-31 23:42 +0100
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:25 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:38 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:25 -0400
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-27 17:22 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2014-05-29 23:07 +0200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-30 21:45 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-05-30 23:48 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 12:24 +1200
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 00:53 +0000
Re: Firefox 29 UI comment jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-05-31 18:06 +1200
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 05:19 -0400 |
| Subject | Firefox 29 UI comment |
| Message-ID | <537c6faa$0$10193$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com> |
Accepted the "suggestion" to upgrade to 29.0.1 which was to be just a security update. Didn't realise I was at 28 and that this was far more than a security update. Spent a few hours undoing the UI changes, installing the "classic theme restorer" extension and then within it, having to play with settings. The one thing I was not able to undo: grabbing anywhere in the top bars (not just the title bar) causes the window to move. Fairly annoying. (on my machine, a slight move of a window causing it to overlap into the adjoining screen causes major performance degradation). Is it normal that applications can designate areas inside the window as grabbable for purpose of moving window ? I thought this was limited to the title bar. Or is this a case of Firefox creating a huge title bar, and faking a real one inside (it can be removed, and in fact is removed by default).
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 06:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <210520140653423774%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #59575 |
In article <537c6faa$0$10193$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Is it normal that applications can designate areas inside the window as > grabbable for purpose of moving window ? I thought this was limited to > the title bar. Yes, it is normal that it can be done. Check out Apple's Calculator app for example. It is not usual that it is done.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 14:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlnpd06.1q8a.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59575 |
In message <537c6faa$0$10193$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Accepted the "suggestion" to upgrade to 29.0.1 which was to be just a > security update. Didn't realise I was at 28 and that this was far more > than a security update. Spent a few hours undoing the UI changes, > installing the "classic theme restorer" extension and then within it, > having to play with settings. Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like nibble ballet dancers by comparison. I don't run it. > Is it normal that applications can designate areas inside the window as > grabbable for purpose of moving window ? I thought this was limited to > the title bar. > Or is this a case of Firefox creating a huge title bar, and faking a > real one inside (it can be removed, and in fact is removed by default). That would be my guess. -- 'It's always a good thing to let a few tales spread, you know. Pour encouragy le-poor encoura-to make everyone sit up and damn well take notice.' --Eric
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 17:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llimt0$q34$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #59581 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
> Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new
> numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other
> browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius
> of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like
> nibble ballet dancers by comparison.
Sadly, this describes it perfectly. Why? The maintainers not only
don't give a shit about the users (check the Mozilla discusion threads
if you don't believe that), but when they're not busy ruining FF, they
are working hard to dumb it down to their own level of moronity.
> I don't run it.
I think it peaked around v17 (an extended support release). Or, it
was still bearable then. I've kept that one, but I don't often use
it.
Billy Y..
--
sub #'9+1 ,r0 ; convert ascii byte
add #9.+1 ,r0 ; to an integer
bcc 20$ ; not a number
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| From | super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 23:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <super70s-85474F.23135523052014@reader.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #59585 |
In article <llimt0$q34$1@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote: > I think it peaked around v17 (an extended support release). Or, it > was still bearable then. I've kept that one, but I don't often use > it. I hate to interrupt this (very justified) public flogging but I'm still at FF 22, as far as I know that's the latest version before they started really screwing with the title bar.
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| From | Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 16:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #59581 |
On 5/21/14, 10:11 AM, Lewis wrote: > In message <537c6faa$0$10193$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> Accepted the "suggestion" to upgrade to 29.0.1 which was to be just a >> security update. Didn't realise I was at 28 and that this was far more >> than a security update. Spent a few hours undoing the UI changes, >> installing the "classic theme restorer" extension and then within it, >> having to play with settings. > > Firefox has been in a steady decline since they started their new > numbering scheme. There are a few things it does better than other > browsers, but overall, it's a lethargic behmouth with the turning radius > of an aircraft carrier and it makes the worst versions of IE look like > nibble ballet dancers by comparison. > > I don't run it. > When Mozilla fired CEO Brandon Eich for having/supporting ideas that are different from their ultra-lib orthodoxy, I told my IT manager to take Firefox off all computers in my company and to block it from accessing our websites. And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his bumper too. It's a short interview;-) -- Question for liberals: If the rich didn’t create all that wealth...who would you take it from?
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 22:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59587 |
In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting > bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an > employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter > company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his > bumper too. It's a short interview;-) What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? -- They all have husbands and wives and children and houses and dogs, and you know, they've all made themselves a part of something and they can talk about what they do. What am I gonna say? "I killed the president of Paraguay with a fork. How've you been?"
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| From | J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 19:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lljc4r$m12$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59594 |
On 5/21/14, 6:53 PM, Lewis wrote: > In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> > Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: >> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting >> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an >> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter >> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his >> bumper too. It's a short interview;-) > > What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? > Yellow Cab. Travis Bickle used to be a leftist radical. He wanted to put bumper stickers on his car but the boss wouldn't let him. http://movieclips.com/iBqa-taxi-driver-movie-travis-supports-palantine/
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 18:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lljjll$s30$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59594 |
In article <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> > Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > > And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting > > bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an > > employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter > > company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his > > bumper too. It's a short interview;-) > > What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? More importantly, so I can make certain I never give that company so much as a nickel I've used to scrape dog shit out of the tread of my shoe. (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more likely reality.) -- Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 18:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <210520141830493395%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #59601 |
In article <lljjll$s30$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence > that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that > he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls > that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more > likely reality.) Nope; he's one of the regulars, recycled. but he's not violating any employment laws because his company is fictitious.
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 18:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lljlaq$s30$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59602 |
In article <210520141830493395%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <lljjll$s30$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> > wrote: > > > (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence > > that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that > > he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls > > that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more > > likely reality.) > > Nope; he's one of the regulars, recycled. > > but he's not violating any employment laws because his company is > fictitious. Somehow I suspected as much. Anybody who knows anything about HR beyond "It's where you send your resume when you're looking for a job" knows - or should - that practices such as he describes are all but guaranteed to cost a company a metric buttload of cash as quick as the local labor-law enforcement folks get wind of it. -- Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
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| From | Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 10:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lll1mc$o4l$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #59601 |
On 5/21/14, 9:26 PM, Don Bruder wrote: > In article <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > >> In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> >> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: >>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting >>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an >>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter >>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his >>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-) >> >> What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? > > More importantly, so I can make certain I never give that company so > much as a nickel I've used to scrape dog shit out of the tread of my > shoe. > > (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence > that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that > he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls > that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more > likely reality.) > Violating labor laws? Nope, afraid not. 1. It's a privately held company. 2. I don't do business with any governmental agency. 3. We're neither a common carrier nor offer public accommodations. 4. And most importantly-- none of the slacker/moochers I won't hire or promote are members of any designated protected class. Thus, no laws are being broken. So while the self-appointed Grievance Industry agitators may not like the way I do business, there's nothing they can do about it other than rant and community-organize boisterous protests outside my gate. And frankly, when my highly conservative customer base sees those ass-hats on the evening news, they're inclined to give me even more of their business. So thanks for the free advertising. boychiks;-) -- The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. --Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 09:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lll8a3$a6u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59610 |
In article <lll1mc$o4l$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > On 5/21/14, 9:26 PM, Don Bruder wrote: > > In article <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > > >> In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> > >> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > >>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting > >>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an > >>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter > >>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his > >>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-) > >> > >> What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? > > > > More importantly, so I can make certain I never give that company so > > much as a nickel I've used to scrape dog shit out of the tread of my > > shoe. > > > > (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence > > that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that > > he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls > > that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more > > likely reality.) > > > > Violating labor laws? Nope, afraid not. > > 1. It's a privately held company. If it existed, that might be true. Doesn't change the reality that privately held or not, the labor laws must be followed. > 2. I don't do business with any governmental agency. That's good. Means I don't give you any money indirectly through my taxes. Well, it would, if this company of yours existed outside your imagination. > 3. We're neither a common carrier nor offer public accommodations. I'll buy that - since an imaginary company can't offer much of anything to anybody other than the one pretending it exists. > 4. And most importantly-- none of the slacker/moochers I > won't hire or promote are members of any designated protected class. Since they don't exist anywhere outside your imagination, I guess I haven't got a choice but to admit that last one is true - one generally doesn't need to pay imaginary employees. > Thus, no laws are being broken. Of course not - it's hard for an imaginary company to do anything at all, never mind anything illegal. > So while the self-appointed Grievance Industry agitators may not like > the way I do business, there's nothing they can do about it other than > rant and community-organize boisterous protests outside my gate. And > frankly, when my highly conservative customer base sees those ass-hats > on the evening news, they're inclined to give me even more of their > business. So thanks for the free advertising. boychiks;-) Keep on dreaming, basement-boy. -- Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 19:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-BD8E0F.19190022052014@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59620 |
In article <lll8a3$a6u$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <lll1mc$o4l$1@news.albasani.net>, > Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > > > On 5/21/14, 9:26 PM, Don Bruder wrote: > > > In article <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > > > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > > > > >> In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> > > >> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > > >>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting > > >>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an > > >>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter > > >>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his > > >>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-) > > >> > > >> What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? > > > > > > More importantly, so I can make certain I never give that company so > > > much as a nickel I've used to scrape dog shit out of the tread of my > > > shoe. > > > > > > (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence > > > that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that > > > he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls > > > that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more > > > likely reality.) > > > > > > > Violating labor laws? Nope, afraid not. > > > > 1. It's a privately held company. > > If it existed, that might be true. Doesn't change the reality that > privately held or not, the labor laws must be followed. > > > 2. I don't do business with any governmental agency. > > That's good. Means I don't give you any money indirectly through my > taxes. Well, it would, if this company of yours existed outside your > imagination. > > > 3. We're neither a common carrier nor offer public accommodations. > > I'll buy that - since an imaginary company can't offer much of anything > to anybody other than the one pretending it exists. > > > 4. And most importantly-- none of the slacker/moochers I > > won't hire or promote are members of any designated protected class. > > Since they don't exist anywhere outside your imagination, I guess I > haven't got a choice but to admit that last one is true - one generally > doesn't need to pay imaginary employees. > > > Thus, no laws are being broken. > > Of course not - it's hard for an imaginary company to do anything at > all, never mind anything illegal. > > > So while the self-appointed Grievance Industry agitators may not like > > the way I do business, there's nothing they can do about it other than > > rant and community-organize boisterous protests outside my gate. And > > frankly, when my highly conservative customer base sees those ass-hats > > on the evening news, they're inclined to give me even more of their > > business. So thanks for the free advertising. boychiks;-) > > Keep on dreaming, basement-boy. He had to close his bakery. He only sells on the internet now. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 14:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014052214233724991-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #59610 |
On 2014-05-22 14:30:35 +0000, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> said: > On 5/21/14, 9:26 PM, Don Bruder wrote: >> In article <slrnlnqbig.2d5f.g.kreme@amelia.local>, >> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> >>> In message <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net> >>> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: >>>> And yup, I check the parking lot for lib candidate or cause- supporting >>>> bumper stickers at salary review time or before a layoff. And when an >>>> employment candidate checks-in at the security gate guard shack to enter >>>> company property, the guard give HR a heads-up if there's one on his >>>> bumper too. It's a short interview;-) >>> >>> What company so that I can warn other people you're an asshole? >> >> More importantly, so I can make certain I never give that company so >> much as a nickel I've used to scrape dog shit out of the tread of my >> shoe. >> >> (I also find it amusing that he's offering, on a public forum, evidence >> that he's violating multiple employment laws - assuming, of course, that >> he isn't just one more in a long line of mom's-basement-dwelling trolls >> that have gone through here over the years - I suspect that's the more >> likely reality.) >> > > Violating labor laws? Nope, afraid not. > > 1. It's a privately held company. So what? > 2. I don't do business with any governmental agency. That means nothing. > 3. We're neither a common carrier nor offer public accommodations. That's a relief. > 4. And most importantly-- none of the slacker/moochers I won't hire or > promote are members of any designated protected class. I wouldn't bet on that. > Thus, no laws are being broken. I wouldn't bet on that either, Since you appear to be blind to the Law. > So while the self-appointed Grievance Industry agitators may not like > the way I do business, there's nothing they can do about it other than > rant and community-organize boisterous protests outside my gate. And > frankly, when my highly conservative customer base sees those ass-hats > on the evening news, they're inclined to give me even more of their > business. So thanks for the free advertising. boychiks;-) You don't seem to be an over bright business owner. I suggest you take a look at what does apply to you and all other employers, private, or otherwise if you operate in any of the 50 States. Remember, ignorance of the Law is not an excuse. One of these days you might have to defend yourself in Court. ...and then there are labor laws in each of the States, some of which might apply to you. < http://www.eeoc.gov > < http://www.dol.gov/compliance/laws/comp-flsa.htm > < http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/hce/title8.php > -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-21 17:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <210520141750187538%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #59587 |
In article <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > When Mozilla fired CEO Brandon Eich for having/supporting ideas that are > different from their ultra-lib orthodoxy, I told my IT manager to take > Firefox off all computers in my company and to block it from accessing > our websites. That's your prerogative. I don't patronize ultra-right companies like Hobby Lobby, Chik-fil-a (well, another reason is that their product tastes terrible), and Exxon-Mobile, for similar reasons. It's also the reason that sponsors are fleeing from Rush Limbaugh's show in droves. But by denying Firefox access to your company's web site, you're hurting your own business.
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| From | Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 10:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lll2ll$q27$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #59600 |
On 5/21/14, 8:50 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <llj3q3$5np$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle > <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > >> When Mozilla fired CEO Brandon Eich for having/supporting ideas that are >> different from their ultra-lib orthodoxy, I told my IT manager to take >> Firefox off all computers in my company and to block it from accessing >> our websites. > > That's your prerogative. I don't patronize ultra-right companies like > Hobby Lobby, Chik-fil-a (well, another reason is that their product > tastes terrible), and Exxon-Mobile, for similar reasons. > > It's also the reason that sponsors are fleeing from Rush Limbaugh's > show in droves. > > But by denying Firefox access to your company's web site, you're > hurting your own business. > In response: 1. Actually, my company doesn't want business from you and your ilk; it might drive off some folks in our key demographic and customer base. 2. In actual fact, ad revenues for Rush Limbaugh and most other major conservative talk radio shows are flourishing. It's the few remaining liberal talk radio shows that are circling the drain due to a paucity of advertisers and listeners. 3. If I lose a little business, so be it. Making a statement/operating on principle is more important than a little lost revenue. -- There are two distinct classes of men in the nation: those who pay taxes, and those who receive and live upon the taxes —Thomas Paine, 1792 (via @jeff_jacoby)
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 15:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlns5i9.scb.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59612 |
In message <lll2ll$q27$1@news.albasani.net> Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > 2. In actual fact, ad revenues for Rush Limbaugh and most other major > conservative talk radio shows are flourishing. That is a lie. I suspect everything you say is a lie, but I *know* that one is a lie. Ad revenue on Rush is down 90%. The only reason it's on the air at all is because Clear Channel Fuckheads are willing to lose money on it. Rush has lost *every* national advertiser and is living off gold scammers, local realtors and car dealers, and consirvitard websites. Every national ad agency has "exclude Limbaugh and Hannity" clauses in their ad buys. They are being propped up by a consirvitard company, but they are losing millions per year. Clear Channel will never recover the money they paid to Limbaugh. -- The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 08:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <220520140857092236%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #59612 |
In article <lll2ll$q27$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > 1. Actually, my company doesn't want business from you and your ilk; it > might drive off some folks in our key demographic and customer base. As if any of your customers know what the political affiliations of other customers are. Not that you actually have a business or customers. > 2. In actual fact, ad revenues for Rush Limbaugh and most other major > conservative talk radio shows are flourishing. His ratings are plummeting and advertisers are leaving him in droves: <http://radioink.com/Article.asp?id=2649276&spid=24698> "Forty-eight of the top 50 network advertisers have ³excluded Rush and Hannity² orders. Every major national ad agency has the same dictate." Admittedly, that was about a year ago, and Limbaugh has since switched from Cumulus to Clear Channel; however, his ratings on those Clear Channel stations are abysmal. > 3. If I lose a little business, so be it. Making a statement/operating > on principle is more important than a little lost revenue. Actually, I agree with that. It's a shame, though, that your principles are detrimental to the well being of the country, and the world, for that matter.
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| From | Happynet Steering Society <bo@ChOMp.ru.ca.us.fr> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 09:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bo-EC6E1D.09304123052014@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #59612 |
In article <lll2ll$q27$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote: > In response: > 1. Actually, my company doesn't want business from you and your ilk; it > might drive off some folks in our key demographic and customer base. Who? The Ku Fux Klan? I fuck the skull of jesus. -- a bozo is just an upside-down smile
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