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  Anti Virus Software on a Mac? William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-15 08:14 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-15 08:09 -0500
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lloyd <lloydparsons@me.com> - 2013-10-15 08:34 -0500
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 09:36 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-15 07:44 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-15 18:55 +0200
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-15 20:43 +0000
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-15 17:14 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-16 10:13 +1100
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-16 13:35 +1300
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-19 22:54 +0200
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-20 11:23 +1100
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-21 23:24 +1300
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-19 22:50 +0200
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-20 11:22 +1100
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-20 12:39 +0200
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 09:35 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-10-15 07:00 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? billy@MIX.COM - 2013-10-15 15:55 +0000
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-10-20 15:29 +0100
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-20 11:17 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-15 07:44 -0700
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> - 2013-10-15 11:05 -0500
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 12:48 -0400
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> - 2013-10-16 08:23 -0500
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-16 10:37 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-16 13:41 +1300
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> - 2013-10-16 08:22 -0500
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-16 14:48 +0000
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 20:47 +0000
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> - 2013-10-18 15:51 -0500
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-18 20:49 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-15 12:13 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Skylamar <nothingtoseehere@movealong.net> - 2013-10-16 22:15 -0700
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-17 19:15 +1300
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-15 15:56 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-16 09:18 +1300
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 16:25 -0400
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-16 13:44 +1300
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-15 21:34 -0400
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-15 21:43 -0700
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-16 11:46 +0000
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:11 +0000
                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-16 17:53 -0700
                  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-17 13:51 -0400
                    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-17 12:44 -0700
                      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-17 12:48 -0700
                        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 16:03 -0400
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 09:07 +1300
                      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 23:28 +0000
                        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 12:44 +1300
                          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 00:05 +0000
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 15:42 +1300
                              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 20:01 +0000
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-10-18 01:35 -0700
                              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 05:48 -0400
                              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-18 11:36 -0400
                                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-18 08:42 -0700
                              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-18 20:02 +0000
                            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-18 08:41 -0700
                        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
                  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 01:41 +0000
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-16 17:22 +1300
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-15 14:28 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-15 14:31 -0700
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-16 05:30 -0700
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-17 18:49 +1300
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2013-10-16 17:38 +0100
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-16 09:48 -0700
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-17 13:01 +1300
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:17 +0000
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-18 09:05 +1300
                Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-18 09:33 +1300
                  Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-10-18 15:07 +0100
                    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-19 10:10 +1300
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-17 08:12 -0700
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-17 13:01 +1300
        Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:19 +0000
          Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:26 -0700
            Re: Mac magazines (was Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac?) Skylamar <nothingtoseehere@movealong.net> - 2013-10-16 22:14 -0700
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                Re: Mac magazines jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-26 11:57 +1300
          Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:50 -0400
            Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:52 -0400
              Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 20:56 -0400
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-16 13:27 +1300
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> - 2013-10-17 19:17 -0700
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> - 2013-10-17 19:20 -0700
    Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-18 12:52 -0400
      Re: Anti Virus Software on a Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-19 10:12 +1300

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#50258

On 2013.10.15 11:55 , billy@MIX.COM wrote:
> Mr. Strat <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> asks:
>
>> What's it going to protect you from?
>
> Some info is here -
>
> http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-antivirus-for-mac-home-edition.aspx

I've yet to taste a threat of a virus on my Macs.  Even when 
"MacDefender" made its rounds my computers did not get even a look at it 
- never mind presenting the steps needed to install it.

The first line of defense is the user.  Run in non-privileged mode (how 
I have all the Macs here set up). And my SO and son are well advised to 
never DL or install anything that just pops up.  Ignore it.

Years of this have proven it to work.


-- 
"Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another."
                                                 -Ambrose Bierce

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#49988

In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
 William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:

> I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat 
> myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> install an anti virus program?
> 
> Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's 
> still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.

"Others" are correct.

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49993

In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
 William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:

> I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat 
> myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> install an anti virus program?
> 
> Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's 
> still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.

I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
hasn't found any viruses on my Mac. What it is good for is
finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
those on my Mac. It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
but some of those are necessary, imho.

That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
Mac viruses.

I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.

-- 
Sue

8^)~~                      (remove the x to email)
~~~~~

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#49996

In article <sme617x-588F8B.11054015102013@news.giganews.com>, Suzie-Q
<sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
> hasn't found any viruses on my Mac.

of course it hasn't, because there aren't any to be found.

> What it is good for is
> finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
> put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
> those on my Mac. '

such as?

or is it misrepresenting tracking cookies as 'tracking software'?

there are far less intrusive ways to block tracking cookies.

> It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
> but some of those are necessary, imho.

some are, but you can get a cookie manager instead.

> That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
> for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
> Mac viruses.

it's not that simple and windows is still far more bang for the buck,
so that's what they target.

> I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
> files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.

also a bad idea.

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#50046

In article <151020131248176716%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <sme617x-588F8B.11054015102013@news.giganews.com>, Suzie-Q
> <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
> > hasn't found any viruses on my Mac.
> 
> of course it hasn't, because there aren't any to be found.
> 
> > What it is good for is
> > finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
> > put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
> > those on my Mac. '
> 
> such as?
> 
> or is it misrepresenting tracking cookies as 'tracking software'?
> 
> there are far less intrusive ways to block tracking cookies.
> 
> > It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
> > but some of those are necessary, imho.
> 
> some are, but you can get a cookie manager instead.
> 
> > That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
> > for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
> > Mac viruses.
> 
> it's not that simple and windows is still far more bang for the buck,
> so that's what they target.
> 
> > I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
> > files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.
> 
> also a bad idea.


Why?

-- 
Sue

8^)~~                      (remove the x to email)
~~~~~

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#50047

In article <sme617x-C4A598.08232216102013@news.giganews.com>, Suzie-Q
<sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
> > > files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.
> > 
> > also a bad idea.
> 
> Why?

because they can remove stuff that shouldn't be removed. 

macs do a fine job of maintaining themselves.

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#50022

Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
>  William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:
> 
> > I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat
> > myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> > install an anti virus program?
> > 
> > Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's
> > still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.
> 
> I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
> hasn't found any viruses on my Mac. What it is good for is
> finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
> put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
> those on my Mac. It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
> but some of those are necessary, imho.
> 
> That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
> for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
> Mac viruses.
> 
> I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
> files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.

"tracking software"? You mean cookies? A cookie is not software for a
start, merely data. Also your web browser can already block and manage
cookies as necessary.

As for 'cleaning' your Mac, that won't speed it up, not make any real
difference to HD space unless these are duplicate RAW image files or the
like.

If you want to avoid duplicates - save your work in sensible places with
sensible names, and you'll not duplicate anything, because you'll see
it's already there.

But I suppose there's no real harm in such 'cleaning' apps, unless they
try to 'clean' important files. But what a waste of money and time.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#50045

In article <1lau5s7.xzv8hokvrhkoN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
> >  William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:
> > 
> > > I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat
> > > myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> > > install an anti virus program?
> > > 
> > > Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's
> > > still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.
> > 
> > I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
> > hasn't found any viruses on my Mac. What it is good for is
> > finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
> > put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
> > those on my Mac. It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
> > but some of those are necessary, imho.
> > 
> > That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
> > for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
> > Mac viruses.
> > 
> > I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
> > files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.
> 
> "tracking software"? You mean cookies? A cookie is not software for a
> start, merely data. Also your web browser can already block and manage
> cookies as necessary.

No, I mean software that tracks what you do and where you go
on the web. Spyware.

> As for 'cleaning' your Mac, that won't speed it up, not make any real
> difference to HD space unless these are duplicate RAW image files or the
> like.
> 
> If you want to avoid duplicates - save your work in sensible places with
> sensible names, and you'll not duplicate anything, because you'll see
> it's already there.

That's good advice now, but no one suggested that to me
when I first started using Macs in 1996, and I didn't worry
too much back then about duplicate copies. I didn't think
about it much until it had already happened.

One of the biggest things that annoys me re. duplicates is
iPhoto. It seems to have collected a bunch of images on its
own, which also reside in other places on my computer.

> But I suppose there's no real harm in such 'cleaning' apps, unless they
> try to 'clean' important files. But what a waste of money and time.

I don't think they're a waste of money or time. I guess it
depends on how disciplined and organized you are. I was neither
disciplined nor organized so ended up with a lot of stuff on
my computer that was duplicated. 

I think each individual needs to look into what these programs
do and decide for themselves whether to invest. Personally, I
feel better after running MacScan and CleanMyMac from time to
time.

-- 
Sue

8^)~~                      (remove the x to email)
~~~~~

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#50048

In message <sme617x-51ED5F.08220716102013@news.giganews.com> 
  Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <1lau5s7.xzv8hokvrhkoN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

>> Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
>> >  William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat
>> > > myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
>> > > install an anti virus program?
>> > > 
>> > > Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's
>> > > still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.
>> > 
>> > I use MacScan, which is technically an antivirus program but
>> > hasn't found any viruses on my Mac. What it is good for is
>> > finding and deleting any tracking software that has been secretly
>> > put on your Mac while you surfed the Web. It has found a lot of
>> > those on my Mac. It will also remove cookies if you want it to,
>> > but some of those are necessary, imho.
>> > 
>> > That's probably the only thing most Mac virus software is good
>> > for. Thank God the real malicious people haven't created many
>> > Mac viruses.
>> > 
>> > I also use "Clean My Mac" which has been great at finding duplicate
>> > files and removing a lot of crap that I don't need.
>> 
>> "tracking software"? You mean cookies? A cookie is not software for a
>> start, merely data. Also your web browser can already block and manage
>> cookies as necessary.

> No, I mean software that tracks what you do and where you go
> on the web. Spyware.

What Mac Spyware are you imagining?

> One of the biggest things that annoys me re. duplicates is
> iPhoto. It seems to have collected a bunch of images on its
> own, which also reside in other places on my computer.

Iphoto doesn't collect anything on its own.

>> But I suppose there's no real harm in such 'cleaning' apps, unless they
>> try to 'clean' important files. But what a waste of money and time.

> I don't think they're a waste of money or time.

They are because they are quite likely to break you system, making them
a waste of money and forcing you to spend a lot of extra time.

> I think each individual needs to look into what these programs
> do and decide for themselves whether to invest. Personally, I
> feel better after running MacScan and CleanMyMac from time to
> time.

CleanMyMac is complete and utter shit.

-- 
"Oh damn", said Maladict.

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#50065

On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:22:08 UTC, Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the biggest things that annoys me re. duplicates is
> iPhoto. It seems to have collected a bunch of images on its
> own, which also reside in other places on my computer.
 
Do you have iPhoto Preferences>Advanced>Copy items to the iPhoto 
Library checked? If so, then you are causing the dupes when you 
import photos. If you uncheck it, then iPhoto will not create dupes,
but then your photos won't be in the iPhoto Library.

-- 
John Varela

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#50184

In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Y5sSwEddTdjN@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:22:08 UTC, Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > One of the biggest things that annoys me re. duplicates is
> > iPhoto. It seems to have collected a bunch of images on its
> > own, which also reside in other places on my computer.
>  
> Do you have iPhoto Preferences>Advanced>Copy items to the iPhoto 
> Library checked? If so, then you are causing the dupes when you 
> import photos. If you uncheck it, then iPhoto will not create dupes,
> but then your photos won't be in the iPhoto Library.

Are you saying that, if I have that checked, any photo/graphic
on my computer will also be in the iPhoto Library? Photos that
are in my "Pictures" directory will be in iPhoto?

If so, then I must not have it checked because I have about a 
zillion pix in "Pictures" that are not in iPhoto. 

In truth, I haven't convinced myself that iPhoto is of any real
benefit. In fact, I didn't use it until I started finding 
photos in there that I couldn't find anywhere else on my computer.
But lately I'm feeling like I'd like all my photos to be in
iPhoto because, when I run CleanMyMac, it puts duplicates 
together and then I can delete them.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic, honest! But tell me why using
iPhoto is a good thing. Or isn't a good thing.

. . .

Just checked. I do have "copy" checked in preferences, but not
all my pix are in iPhoto. So what does it copy? Not the stuff
I have in my "Pictures" directory.

-- 
Sue

8^)~~                      (remove the x to email)
~~~~~

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#50192

In article <sme617x-96BEAA.15515518102013@news.giganews.com>,
 Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Y5sSwEddTdjN@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:22:08 UTC, Suzie-Q <sme617x@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > One of the biggest things that annoys me re. duplicates is
> > > iPhoto. It seems to have collected a bunch of images on its
> > > own, which also reside in other places on my computer.
> >  
> > Do you have iPhoto Preferences>Advanced>Copy items to the iPhoto 
> > Library checked? If so, then you are causing the dupes when you 
> > import photos. If you uncheck it, then iPhoto will not create dupes,
> > but then your photos won't be in the iPhoto Library.
> 
> Are you saying that, if I have that checked, any photo/graphic
> on my computer will also be in the iPhoto Library? Photos that
> are in my "Pictures" directory will be in iPhoto?
> 
> If so, then I must not have it checked because I have about a 
> zillion pix in "Pictures" that are not in iPhoto. 
> 
> In truth, I haven't convinced myself that iPhoto is of any real
> benefit. In fact, I didn't use it until I started finding 
> photos in there that I couldn't find anywhere else on my computer.
> But lately I'm feeling like I'd like all my photos to be in
> iPhoto because, when I run CleanMyMac, it puts duplicates 
> together and then I can delete them.
> 
> I'm not trying to be sarcastic, honest! But tell me why using
> iPhoto is a good thing. Or isn't a good thing.

I like it for the organizational features, particularly "Faces". 
> 
> . . .
> 
> Just checked. I do have "copy" checked in preferences, but not
> all my pix are in iPhoto. So what does it copy? Not the stuff
> I have in my "Pictures" directory.

It copies only those photos you import to iPhoto.

-- 
PRAY, v.  To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

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#49994

In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>,
 William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:

> I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat 
> myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> install an anti virus program?
> 
> Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's 
> still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.

I agree with everyone else who says an anti-virus program isn't 
necessary on the Mac. 

However, if you insist, try ClamXAV <http://www.clamxav.com/>. It's free 
and opensource. Definitions updated almost daily. As with any AV app for 
the Mac, turn off constant background scanning. That does nothing but 
cause problems. Do a whole disk scan once in a while. Can take 12-24 
hours depending on how much there is, so do it overnight.

However, all this is NOT really necessary, but you asked.

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#50091

On 2013-10-15 16:13:26 +0000, Fred Moore said:

> However, if you insist, try ClamXAV <http://www.clamxav.com/>. It's free
> and opensource. Definitions updated almost daily. As with any AV app for
> the Mac, turn off constant background scanning. That does nothing but
> cause problems. Do a whole disk scan once in a while. Can take 12-24
> hours depending on how much there is, so do it overnight.

I would recommend this too.

I have ClamXAV scan my computer only once a year or so, and it's never 
found anything.

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#50096

In article <2013101622152960673-nothingtoseehere@movealongnet>,
Skylamar <nothingtoseehere@movealong.net> wrote:

> On 2013-10-15 16:13:26 +0000, Fred Moore said:
> 
> > However, if you insist, try ClamXAV <http://www.clamxav.com/>. It's free
> > and opensource. Definitions updated almost daily. As with any AV app for
> > the Mac, turn off constant background scanning. That does nothing but
> > cause problems. Do a whole disk scan once in a while. Can take 12-24
> > hours depending on how much there is, so do it overnight.
> 
> I would recommend this too.
> 
> I have ClamXAV scan my computer only once a year or so, and it's never 
> found anything.

A.  No surprise there. That's because the chance of ever
    finding anything on a Mac is even less than the combined
    chance of you winning the lottery, becoming a NASA 
    spaceman, AND living on Pluto. All you're doing is 
    wasting X minutes of your time and electricity.
    (The exception can be if you stupidly visit porn and 
    pirate software website, in which case you get what you
    deserve, but even then the chances are extremely low.)

B.  On a Windows computer, the fact that the anti-malware 
    software doesn't find anything doesn't actually mean the
    Windows computer is 100% safe ... it simply means the
    software couldn't find anything. Lots of malware can 
    easily sneak past the so-called protection software.

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#50005

On 2013.10.15 08:14 , William Munny wrote:
> I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat
> myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I
> install an anti virus program?
>
> Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's
> still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.

There is no good reason for it.

Caveat: I installed WinXP under Fusion and _that_ has AVG.

-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#50007

In article <l3jbif$he$1@news.albasani.net>, William Munny
<will@bigwhiskey.gov> wrote:
> 
> I just received an unexpected pay bonus at work and I'm going to treat 
> myself to a nice new MacBook Pro. Just wondering though, should I 
> install an anti virus program?
> 
> Some people say you really ought to do that now days. Others say it's 
> still not necessary-- creating more problems than it solves.

As most of the others have said, anti-virus / anti-malware software is
not needed on a Mac .. unless you plan on visiting lots of dodgey porn
and pirate software wesbites.

There are two exceptions,

    - some banks insist that you have an anti-virus application
      installed to use their internet banking system (or at least
      qualify for repayment should money be taken from your
      account),

    - on a Mac used in a work environment alongside Windows PCs,
      an anti-virus application on the can stop your Mac being
      used as a stepping stone for Windows malware.

both still rather pointless reasons though, especially as anti-virus
applications (including those on Windows) are not even remotely
completely effective anyway.

In all the MANY years of using and adminstering Apple computers (since
before there even was a Mac), I have only ever found ONE virus, and
that was a Windows virus infecting a Word document on a floppy disk
from a Windows user way back under Mac OS 8.

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#50008

In article <161020130918304023%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

>     - some banks insist that you have an anti-virus application
>       installed to use their internet banking system (or at least
>       qualify for repayment should money be taken from your
>       account),

any bank that requires specific software to be installed is not a bank
to use. 

there are *plenty* of banks that don't require crap like that.

>     - on a Mac used in a work environment alongside Windows PCs,
>       an anti-virus application on the can stop your Mac being
>       used as a stepping stone for Windows malware.

so what? 

the windows machines already have antivirus software and if they can't
protect themselves, screw 'em.

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#50023

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <161020130918304023%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> >     - some banks insist that you have an anti-virus application
> >       installed to use their internet banking system (or at least
> >       qualify for repayment should money be taken from your
> >       account),
> 
> any bank that requires specific software to be installed is not a bank
> to use. 

Yeah, sounds like very stupid banks. I wouldn't trust people that dumb
about IT with my money.

> there are *plenty* of banks that don't require crap like that.

I've heard of this idiocy before, but never actually encountered it in
the wild. Is this more a US thing?

> >     - on a Mac used in a work environment alongside Windows PCs,
> >       an anti-virus application on the can stop your Mac being
> >       used as a stepping stone for Windows malware.
> 
> so what? 
> 
> the windows machines already have antivirus software and if they can't
> protect themselves, screw 'em.

Even then you have to be pretty silly or unaware to get a virus in
Windows.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#50024

In article <1lau625.1s6e9fjqqdxa2N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> > >     - some banks insist that you have an anti-virus application
> > >       installed to use their internet banking system (or at least
> > >       qualify for repayment should money be taken from your
> > >       account),
> > 
> > any bank that requires specific software to be installed is not a bank
> > to use. 
> 
> Yeah, sounds like very stupid banks. I wouldn't trust people that dumb
> about IT with my money.
> 
> > there are *plenty* of banks that don't require crap like that.
> 
> I've heard of this idiocy before, but never actually encountered it in
> the wild. Is this more a US thing?

no. it's not 'required' but it gets pushed pretty hard and
non-technical users don't know enough to say no.

here's more info:
<https://www.trusteer.com/products/trusteer-rapport>

<http://www.rbs.co.uk/personal/online-banking/g1/existing-customers/stay
ing-safe-online/rapport.ashx>

<http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/359617/is-hsbcs-security-software-more-
trouble-than-its-worth>
  A quick Google search found many people saying that it slowed down
  their PC, couldn¹t be uninstalled and affects logins to other
  websites.²

<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2795623?start=0&tstart=0>

this is absolutely classic:
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3909211?start=0&tstart=0>
  We're sorry to hear that Rapport caused your Safari browser to crash.
  That can be caused by some browser add-ons that conflict with Rapport
  or sometimes due to older versions of Safari or Rapport that are
  installed together.

um, no. it's because trusteer is a steaming pile of shit.

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