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Mail.app strange behavior

Started byMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
First post2015-02-18 21:48 -0700
Last post2015-02-20 09:45 -0700
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  Mail.app strange behavior Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-18 21:48 -0700
    Re: Mail.app strange behavior DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2015-02-18 21:26 -0800
    Re: Mail.app strange behavior Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 12:50 +0000
      Re: Mail.app strange behavior Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-19 21:22 -0700
        Re: Mail.app strange behavior Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-19 23:11 -0700
          Re: Mail.app strange behavior android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-20 07:19 +0100
    Re: Mail.app strange behavior Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-19 10:36 -0500
    Re: Mail.app strange behavior Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-20 12:44 +0000
      Re: Mail.app strange behavior Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:23 -0700
        Re: Mail.app strange behavior Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-20 11:29 -0500
          Re: Mail.app strange behavior Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:45 -0700

#69920 — Mail.app strange behavior

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-18 21:48 -0700
SubjectMail.app strange behavior
Message-ID<180220152148517084%michelle@michelle.org>
I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.

"Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.

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#69925

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2015-02-18 21:26 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.D10AB409013DC5F4B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#69920
> I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.
> 
> "Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.

Likely a behavior of IMAP settings in your mail service's server software. 
The folders on your Mac--and behaviors--mirror those on the server. 

I'm currently fighting an issue with the "Bulk Mail" folder in my Yahoo 
account. Mail keeps being filtered into that folder, but neither my Mail.app 
Rules nor filters in my Yahoo account are doing this...

Good luck.

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#69941

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-02-19 12:50 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmebn1f.2n49.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#69920
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> was all, like:
> I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.

This might be your email provider. Or double check you account "Mailbox
Behaviors" settings for that account.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Mickey and Mallory know the difference between right and wrong; the just
don't give a damn.

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#69990

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-19 21:22 -0700
Message-ID<190220152122437218%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#69941
In article <slrnmebn1f.2n49.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> this might be your email provider. Or double check you account "Mailbox
> Behaviors" settings for that account.

I just unchecked "Store deleted messages on the server"; I'll see
whether that fixes the problem.

Thanks.

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#69998

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-19 23:11 -0700
Message-ID<190220152311308834%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#69990
In article <190220152122437218%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <slrnmebn1f.2n49.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > this might be your email provider. Or double check you account "Mailbox
> > Behaviors" settings for that account.
> 
> I just unchecked "Store deleted messages on the server"; I'll see
> whether that fixes the problem.

It doesn't seem to have helped.

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#69999

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-02-20 07:19 +0100
Message-ID<cko200Fna2gU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#69998
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> Wrote in message:
> In article <190220152122437218%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> In article <slrnmebn1f.2n49.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>, Lewis
>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> > this might be your email provider. Or double check you account "Mailbox
>> > Behaviors" settings for that account.
>> 
>> I just unchecked "Store deleted messages on the server"; I'll see
>> whether that fixes the problem.
> 
> It doesn't seem to have helped.
> 
I would try with another account with a different service provider
 if possible. Just to make sure that it's an app problem.
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#69953

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2015-02-19 10:36 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-85B408.10364419022015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#69920
In article <180220152148517084%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.
> 
> "Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.

I've been in Comcast's trial program for their IMAP service for the past 
few years. It does this all the time. Also, messages that I read get 
un-marked as read by themselves.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#70011

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-02-20 12:44 +0000
Message-ID<ckoohcFsvveU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#69920
On 2015-02-19, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.
>
> "Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.

Is this happening will all of your accounts, or just one of them? If it's
happening with just one of them, which email host is it, and is it using
IMAP or what?

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70020

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-20 09:23 -0700
Message-ID<200220150923161313%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#70011
In article <ckoohcFsvveU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-19, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> > message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> > deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.
> >
> > "Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.
> 
> Is this happening will all of your accounts, or just one of them? If it's
> happening with just one of them, which email host is it, and is it using
> IMAP or what?

It was happening with two accounts, both of which are with the same
email host (hostmonster.com).  I seem to have fixed it by deleting the
offending messages from the trash folder.

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#70021

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2015-02-20 11:29 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-62475E.11295020022015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#70020
In article <200220150923161313%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <ckoohcFsvveU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-02-19, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > > I'm having a problem with mail.app 8.2 running in Yosemite; deleted
> > > message keep moving from the trash to the folder from where they were
> > > deleted.  I can't figure out what causes it, nor how to stop it.
> > >
> > > "Include related messages" is not checked in Preferences.
> > 
> > Is this happening will all of your accounts, or just one of them? If it's
> > happening with just one of them, which email host is it, and is it using
> > IMAP or what?
> 
> It was happening with two accounts, both of which are with the same
> email host (hostmonster.com).  I seem to have fixed it by deleting the
> offending messages from the trash folder.

As I mentioned earlier, I see this, too. I have two IMAP accounts: 
Comcast's trial server, and my work server. It only happens with the 
Comcast server, and it happens on a regular basis.

So it seems like a bug in some IMAP servers, and it sounds like 
hostmonster has one of these broken servers.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#70024

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-02-20 09:45 -0700
Message-ID<200220150945271186%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#70021
In article <barmar-62475E.11295020022015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> > It was happening with two accounts, both of which are with the same
> > email host (hostmonster.com).  I seem to have fixed it by deleting the
> > offending messages from the trash folder.
> 
> As I mentioned earlier, I see this, too. I have two IMAP accounts: 
> Comcast's trial server, and my work server. It only happens with the 
> Comcast server, and it happens on a regular basis.
> 
> So it seems like a bug in some IMAP servers, and it sounds like 
> hostmonster has one of these broken servers.

A friend of mine also uses hostmonster, and she doesn't have this
problem.

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