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  how to install dual boot on snow leopard Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-14 10:57 -0800
    Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-02-14 13:30 -0600
      Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-14 14:45 -0500
        Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-14 20:56 +0000
      Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-15 09:35 +1300
        Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-02-15 09:52 -0600
          Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-16 08:58 +1300
    Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-14 19:47 +0000
      Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-14 16:30 -0800
      Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-02-19 05:02 -0500
        Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-19 17:11 +0000
          Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 14:11 -0500
            Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 05:03 +0000
              Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:48 -0500
                Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-20 14:13 +0000
              Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-20 12:52 +0000
        Re: how to install dual boot on snow leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 09:13 +1300

#69772 — how to install dual boot on snow leopard

Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?

I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
linux AFAIK

so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes





 

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#69773

On 2/14/15 12:57 PM, in article mbo629$o1g$2@dont-email.me, "Electric Comet"
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
> 
> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> linux AFAIK
> 
> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> 
If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
will have to reinstall to OS.

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#69775

In article <D104FE61.B4796%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> > disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
> > 
> > I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> > linux AFAIK
> > 
> > so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> > 
> If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
> will have to reinstall to OS.

false.

live partitioning has been possible for quite a while, and is exactly
what boot camp assistant does.

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#69780

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:45:35 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <D104FE61.B4796%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
><ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
>> > disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
>> > 
>> > I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
>> > linux AFAIK
>> > 
>> > so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
>> > 
>> If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
>> will have to reinstall to OS.
>
>false.
>
>live partitioning has been possible for quite a while, and is exactly
>what boot camp assistant does.

 I've been doing it in *Windows* for over a decade, so it can't be
that difficult. 
 I know it's easy in MacOSX, too, but I've never needed to do it
there. 
 http://macs.about.com/od/applications/ss/diskutilitypart.htm
"Partitioning is a quick process. It will probably take longer to read
this article than to partition your hard drive."
 Two seconds of searching. 
 Oh, "partition" and "format" are *COMPLETELY* different ideas.
"Partition" just makes more drives and moves data around to fit,
"format" *does* destroy stuff if you do it correctly.
                                                      J.  

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#69778

In article <D104FE61.B4796%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/14/15 12:57 PM, in article mbo629$o1g$2@dont-email.me, "Electric Comet"
> <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> > disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
> > 
> > I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> > linux AFAIK
> > 
> > so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> 
> If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
> will have to reinstall to OS.

That hasn't been true for a while now, but it is still *ALWAYS*
advisable to make a back-up first.
<http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/apple-in-the-enterprise/how-to-resize-
a-live-partition-in-snow-leopard-and-lion/>

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#69811

On 2/14/15 2:35 PM, in article 150220150935338758%YourName@YourISP.com,
"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <D104FE61.B4796%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/14/15 12:57 PM, in article mbo629$o1g$2@dont-email.me, "Electric Comet"
>> <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
>>> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
>>> 
>>> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
>>> linux AFAIK
>>> 
>>> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
>> 
>> If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
>> will have to reinstall to OS.
> 
> That hasn't been true for a while now, but it is still *ALWAYS*
> advisable to make a back-up first.
> <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/apple-in-the-enterprise/how-to-resize-
> a-live-partition-in-snow-leopard-and-lion/>

Guess I'm showing my age...

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#69817

In article <D1061CF7.B47CB%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/14/15 2:35 PM, in article 150220150935338758%YourName@YourISP.com,
> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <D104FE61.B4796%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> > <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2/14/15 12:57 PM, in article mbo629$o1g$2@dont-email.me, "Electric
> >> Comet"
> >> <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> >>> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
> >>> 
> >>> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> >>> linux AFAIK
> >>> 
> >>> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> >> 
> >> If you partition a disk, you destroy all that is on the disk, so, yes, you
> >> will have to reinstall to OS.
> > 
> > That hasn't been true for a while now, but it is still *ALWAYS*
> > advisable to make a back-up first.
> > <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/apple-in-the-enterprise/how-to-resize-
> > a-live-partition-in-snow-leopard-and-lion/>
> 
> Guess I'm showing my age...

If you were really showing your age, you'd be asking "what's a disk?"  
;-)

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#69776

On 2015-02-14, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
>
> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> linux AFAIK
>
> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes

Running Linux in a virtual machine is a far better option, IMO. No need
to reboot, and you can do it for free with VirtualBox. Also, since Mac
OS X is Unix, you should consider whether you really need Linux to begin
with since the vast majority of "Linux" stuff runs just fine in Mac OS X.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69783

On 14 Feb 2015 19:47:37 GMT
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Running Linux in a virtual machine is a far better option, IMO. No
> need to reboot, and you can do it for free with VirtualBox. Also,
> since Mac OS X is Unix, you should consider whether you really need
> Linux to begin with since the vast majority of "Linux" stuff runs
> just fine in Mac OS X.

I would do a linux install with macosx running in a virtualbox to
use itunes. If it's possible. Someone mentioned that linus runs
linux on his laptop.

If not than it'll stay on sno leopard

reason to go to linux is because there are no more updates
to snow leopard and some sites starting to complain about it
when browsing and yosemite's too big to download



linux stuff runs fine if you setup the linux packaging env which
I won't do



 


 

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#69935

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:47:37 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <ck9n2pF1kl5U2@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2015-02-14, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
>> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
>> 
>> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
>> linux AFAIK
>> 
>> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> 
> Running Linux in a virtual machine is a far better option, IMO. No need
> to reboot, and you can do it for free with VirtualBox. Also, since Mac
> OS X is Unix, you should consider whether you really need Linux to begin
> with since the vast majority of "Linux" stuff runs just fine in Mac OS X.

Don't you have to recompile it?  I was curious to try out Gimp but 
didn't have the time to figure out how to recompile it.  Something 
called "Fink"?

-- 
Nelson

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#69954

On 2015-02-19, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:47:37 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <ck9n2pF1kl5U2@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> On 2015-02-14, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
>>> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
>>> 
>>> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
>>> linux AFAIK
>>> 
>>> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
>> 
>> Running Linux in a virtual machine is a far better option, IMO. No need
>> to reboot, and you can do it for free with VirtualBox. Also, since Mac
>> OS X is Unix, you should consider whether you really need Linux to begin
>> with since the vast majority of "Linux" stuff runs just fine in Mac OS X.
>
> Don't you have to recompile it? I was curious to try out Gimp but
> didn't have the time to figure out how to recompile it.

While most popular Unix open source software projects are easily
compiled for Mac OS X, the most popular titles have pre-compiled Mac OS
X binaries available. GIMP is just one such project. You can download
pre-compiled binaries here:

<http://www.gimp.org/downloads/>

> Something called "Fink"?

Fink is a Mac OS X open source package manager and associated library of
ported software using Debian Linux tools, similar to MacPorts and
others, which may be useful to people who are not comfortable compiling
their own stuff.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69958

In article <ckmjpnFbthpU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Fink is a Mac OS X open source package manager and associated library of
> ported software using Debian Linux tools, similar to MacPorts and
> others, which may be useful to people who are not comfortable compiling
> their own stuff

Drifting a bit here. OS X compiles a lot of stuff "out of the box." I 
just installed a nice fresh Yosemite into a firewire drive attached to 
our MacBook Pro 4,1 (2.5 GHz). Just to see how long (and how difficult) 
it would take me to bring it up to "our standards" with the stuff we 
need on it. 

I installed iTerm2 (binary) which I prefer. I use a pager called "most" 
that needs compiling and requires the slang library to run. I typed 
"gcc" at the prompt, and the clever little Mac went out and downloaded 
and installed the developer tools for me. I downloaded slang and it 
compiled clean and  nice and then it (the Mac) compiled most for me. I 
installed ncftp (binary) so I could bring in my dotfiles, and my 
aliases, and my $PATH; I turned on the zshell and I was in business.

OS X ships with a useless out-of-date rsync, but the very latest is a 
quick download (along with some patch files) and it compiled quick and 
clean. Now I was ready to keep BusyCal (fresh download from the App 
Store) and Stickies and the Contacts in quick sync (I have little shell 
scripts for them).

This all took about 2 hours, not (obviously) including installation of 
the OS.

Now it's just reinstalling the Apps the oul' Woman wants, bringing in 
her Mail files and her Firefox bookmarks.

The MacBook Pro needs a repair: the internal HD (or possibly its cable) 
is shot, but it boots happily from external drives. It's a backup/travel 
machine, so it just has to have the Calendar and the Mail and the 
Contacts and some apps. Once it's repaired, and nicely set up on the 
external drive, I'll just do a restore to the new internal drive.

Yosemite seems pretty snappy too.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#69993

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like:
>I installed ncftp (binary) so I could bring in my dotfiles, and my
>aliases, and my $PATH; I turned on the zshell and I was in business.

Ncftp? Hrmph! Rsync. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

(although, anymore, I keep those files on dropbox and simply link to
them on a new machine).

ln -s ~/Dropbox/shell/.bashrc .
ln -s ~/Dropbox/shell/.slrnrc .

> OS X ships with a useless out-of-date rsync,

It is out of date. I don't see how it is useless as it works just fine.
I only bother to compile rsync on my main machines; on the others the
pre-installed one is fine.

I used to install ncftp, but it's been years since I used ftp for anything.

> Yosemite seems pretty snappy too.

I like it.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Noble dragons don't have friends. The nearest they can get to the idea
is an enemy who is still alive. --Guards! Guards!

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#70012

In article <slrnmedg1j.3192.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> It is out of date. I don't see how it is useless as it works just fine.
> I only bother to compile rsync on my main machines; on the others the
> pre-installed one is fine.

I do the oul' Woman's backups, and I get "protocol mismatches" if I 
don't keep the rsyncs up to date.

It's true, though, that if all you want is 

rsync -avs [etc]

the old one works just fine. 

Ncftp is great, once you get the hang of the bookmarks.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70017

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like:
> In article <slrnmedg1j.3192.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> It is out of date. I don't see how it is useless as it works just fine.
>> I only bother to compile rsync on my main machines; on the others the
>> pre-installed one is fine.

> I do the oul' Woman's backups, and I get "protocol mismatches" if I 
> don't keep the rsyncs up to date.

Protocol mismatches are just warnings. The sync still works. 

> It's true, though, that if all you want is 

> rsync -avs [etc]

> the old one works just fine. 

I use my rmv alais daily (it's how I move large files from drive to drive).

alias rmv='rsync -a --remove-source-files --stats -h '

> Ncftp is great, once you get the hang of the bookmarks.

Great if you use ftp, which I don't. Rsync and ssh covere everything,
and much more, that I ever used ftp for.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
>You are forgetting something: the Nazgul are immune to non-magical weapons.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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#70015

On 2015-02-20, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like:
>>I installed ncftp (binary) so I could bring in my dotfiles, and my
>>aliases, and my $PATH; I turned on the zshell and I was in business.
>
> Ncftp? Hrmph! Rsync. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Even scp would be an even better method. FTP is insecure, and rsync may
not be available everywhere. That said, if rsync is available, the
synchronization functionality is extremely useful for copying large
numbers of files.

>> OS X ships with a useless out-of-date rsync,
>
> It is out of date. I don't see how it is useless as it works just fine.
> I only bother to compile rsync on my main machines; on the others the
> pre-installed one is fine.

Same here. I use it often and it works fine.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69963

In article <0001HW.D10B1ED20143E895B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson
<nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:47:37 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <ck9n2pF1kl5U2@mid.individual.net>):
> > On 2015-02-14, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> Does a dual-boot setup require a reinstall of snow leopard or can the
> >> disk be repartitioned with out reinstall?
> >> 
> >> I am considering putting linux on an imac but itunes doesn't exist on
> >> linux AFAIK
> >> 
> >> so dual boot might work to got to macosx for itunes
> > 
> > Running Linux in a virtual machine is a far better option, IMO. No need
> > to reboot, and you can do it for free with VirtualBox. Also, since Mac
> > OS X is Unix, you should consider whether you really need Linux to begin
> > with since the vast majority of "Linux" stuff runs just fine in Mac OS X.
> 
> Don't you have to recompile it?  I was curious to try out Gimp but 
> didn't have the time to figure out how to recompile it.  Something 
> called "Fink"?

If you mean Gimp the Photoshop-clone, then you shouldn't have to
compile anything. It did used to require the X11 optional installation,
but now there's a proper Mac version - just download and run.

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