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Merry Christmas !

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2013-12-17 23:45 -0500
Last post2013-12-19 00:37 +0000
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  Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-17 23:45 -0500
    Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-18 06:04 +0000
      Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-18 06:20 +0000
        Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-18 01:44 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-18 08:29 -0600
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 08:07 -0700
              Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:23 -0500
              Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:33 -0600
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 11:26 -0700
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-18 12:53 -0600
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 12:27 -0700
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-19 10:38 -0600
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-18 21:19 +0000
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-18 17:59 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-19 12:00 +1300
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 17:45 -0700
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 10:22 -0800
            Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 00:13 +0000
          Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:20 -0500
            Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:39 -0600
              Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 14:35 -0500
                Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-18 16:32 -0500
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-19 11:35 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-19 15:16 -0500
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-19 10:41 -0600
                Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 00:17 +0000
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 08:54 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-19 08:00 -0700
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 16:41 +0000
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-19 11:33 -0500
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 12:57 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-20 13:09 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-20 13:23 -0500
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-20 14:09 -0500
                        Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-20 17:49 -0700
                          Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 16:43 -0500
                            Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-22 17:12 -0500
                              Re: Merry Christmas ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 13:32 +1300
                              Re: Merry Christmas ! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 09:33 -0800
                                Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:57 +0000
                                  Re: Merry Christmas ! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 11:20 -0800
                                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 21:00 +0000
                                Re: Merry Christmas ! Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:13 -0500
                                  Re: Merry Christmas ! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:34 -0800
                Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-19 10:40 -0600
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-19 23:46 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 00:11 +0000
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 08:52 -0500
      Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-18 13:08 +0000
        Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 08:11 -0700
        Re: Merry Christmas ! J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-18 10:16 -0500
        Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-18 11:18 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 00:35 +0000
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 09:00 -0500
              Re: Merry Christmas ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-19 13:03 -0500
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-19 18:58 +0000
              Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 21:07 +0000
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-19 21:54 +0000
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 12:30 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-18 20:27 -0500
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-19 11:23 -0500
      Re: Merry Christmas ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-18 11:50 -0500
      Re: Merry Christmas ! "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-18 18:03 -0500
        Re: Merry Christmas ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-18 19:11 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 01:55 +0000
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-21 00:24 -0500
              Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-21 07:48 +0000
                Re: Merry Christmas ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-22 13:20 -0500
        Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 01:09 +0000
          Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 18:13 -0700
            Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 01:43 +0000
              Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-18 19:45 -0700
                Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 20:46 +0000
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-20 12:36 +1300
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 01:15 +0000
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-20 19:14 +1300
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-20 02:53 -0500
                        Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-20 09:04 -0600
                          Re: Merry Christmas ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-20 15:23 +0000
                            Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-21 11:11 -0600
                          Re: Merry Christmas ! Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-20 21:52 -0500
                            Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-21 06:07 +0000
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2013-12-20 09:25 +0100
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-20 07:06 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-12-20 13:23 -0500
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 04:14 +0000
                        Re: Merry Christmas ! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-21 07:13 -0500
                    Re: Merry Christmas ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 09:20 +1300
                      Re: Merry Christmas ! Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 22:58 +0000
                Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 20:55 +0000
                  Re: Merry Christmas ! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-19 20:43 -0700
            Re: Merry Christmas ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-19 15:15 +0000
              Re: Merry Christmas ! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 10:26 -0800
        Re: Merry Christmas ! Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-18 20:28 -0500
          Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 01:46 +0000
    Re: Merry Christmas ! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:11 -0500
      Re: Merry Christmas ! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-18 11:37 -0600
      Re: Merry Christmas ! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2013-12-19 00:37 +0000

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#53586

FromWes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us>
Date2013-12-20 21:52 -0500
Message-ID<l92von$v90$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53563
On 12-20-2013, 10:04, George Kerby wrote:
> 'Tis the Season to bitch and moan.

That doesn't fit the tune you @#$%#$&%$*#$@%T#^% !

-- 
Wes Groleau

    “Lewis's case for the existence of God is fallacious.”
"You mean like circular reasoning?”
    “He believes in God.  Therefore, he's fallacious."

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#53590

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-12-21 06:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlbac1f.sut.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#53586
In message <l92von$v90$4@dont-email.me> 
  Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> wrote:
> On 12-20-2013, 10:04, George Kerby wrote:
>> 'Tis the Season to bitch and moan.

> That doesn't fit the tune you @#$%#$&%$*#$@%T#^% !

ooooo! Excellent!

-- 
Worlds of belief, she [Susan] thought. Just like oysters. A little piece
of shit gets in and then a pearl grows around it. --Hogfather

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#53557

Frombefr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich)
Date2013-12-20 09:25 +0100
Message-ID<1le67bm.17u0fpk19v68twN%befr@eaglesoft.de>
In reply to#53536
Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> This message does not advocate the
> exploitation of non-union working class elves, or other handicapped
> persons.

Hey! Stop it!
That sentence implies that "non-union working class elves" are
handicapped persons, which can be an insult for either the elves or
handicapped persons (depending on who you root for).

Also what about trolls, dwarfes, etc.?
Tsk, you can do better than that!

;-)

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#53560

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2013-12-20 07:06 -0500
Message-ID<pq6dnXov8OVTrynPnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#53536
   Any ideas expressed on this account should not be taken as 

representing Mr. Ullman's own, for indeed he has none. If anyone

objects to any statements he makes, he is quite prepared not only to

 retract them, but also to vehemently deny under oath that he made

 them in the first place.
-- 
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital."
                       -- Aaron Levenstein

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#53574

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2013-12-20 13:23 -0500
Message-ID<fmoore-5A5385.13233520122013@mx05.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#53536
In article <bhhk24Fgd7fU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-19, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:45:56 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> ><michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >
> >>In article <rqi4b9den4a74e5jjk653vosh00u4208uq@4ax.com>, John
> >><Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, they're making an erroneous
> >>> >assumption about me.
> >>>
> >>>  Sorry but I'm not.
> >>
> >>Yes, you are.
> >>
> Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for
> an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress,
> non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice
> holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious
> persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with
> respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of
> others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions
> at all . . . and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and
> medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally
> accepted calendar year 2014, but not without due respect for the
> calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society
> have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is
> necessarily greater than any other country or is the only ???AMERICA??? in
> the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color,
> age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or
> sexual orientation of the wishee. This message does not advocate the
> exploitation of non-union working class elves, or other handicapped
> persons. This message is respectful to the rights of reindeer and other
> animals, and not advocate the use of fur.
> 
> By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms:
> 
> This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely
> transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no
> promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
> her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is
> revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted
> to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for
> a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday
> greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement
> of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the
> wisher.

Excellent, Tom!

Is this original to you, or did you liberate it from another source? 
When I quote it, I want to give credit where credit is due.

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#53587

FromTom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com>
Date2013-12-21 04:14 +0000
Message-ID<bhkit5F4piuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53574
On 2013-12-20, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> In article <bhhk24Fgd7fU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[snip]

>
> Excellent, Tom!
>
> Is this original to you, or did you liberate it from another source?
> When I quote it, I want to give credit where credit is due.

It is not mine and I don't know it's source.
I had intended to disclaim ownership but my unfamiliarity with slrn while
using TextWrangler as it's editor resuulted in a premature post.

Mea Culpa.

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#53593

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2013-12-21 07:13 -0500
Message-ID<yfmdnfiHPctvGCjPnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#53587
In article <bhkit5F4piuU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> using TextWrangler as it's editor resuulted in a premature post.
> 
   I hate it when that happens... (g)
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#53721

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-12-24 09:20 +1300
Message-ID<241220130920155614%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#53536
In article <bhhk24Fgd7fU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
<clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-19, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:45:56 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> ><michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >
> >>In article <rqi4b9den4a74e5jjk653vosh00u4208uq@4ax.com>, John
> >><Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, they're making an erroneous
> >>> >assumption about me.
> >>>
> >>>  Sorry but I'm not.
> >>
> >>Yes, you are.
> >>
> Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for
> an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress,
> non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice
> holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious
> persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with
> respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of
> others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions
> at all . . . and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and
> medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally
> accepted calendar year 2014, but not without due respect for the
> calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society
> have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is
> necessarily greater than any other country or is the only ’ÄúAMERICA’Äù in
> the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color,
> age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or
> sexual orientation of the wishee. This message does not advocate the
> exploitation of non-union working class elves, or other handicapped
> persons. This message is respectful to the rights of reindeer and other
> animals, and not advocate the use of fur.
> 
> By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms:
> 
> This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely
> transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no
> promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
> her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is
> revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted
> to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for
> a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday
> greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement
> of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the
> wisher.


Try this version from the old UK comedy show "Yes Minister" ...

     I wonder if I might crave your momentary indulgence in
     order to discharge a by no means disagreeable obligation
     which has, over the years, become more or less established 
     practice in government service as we approach the terminal
     period of the year - calendar, of course, not financial -
     in fact, not to put too fine a point on it, Week Fifty-One
     - and submit to you, with all appropriate deference, for 
     your consideration at a convenient juncture, a sincere and
     sanguine expectation - indeed confidence - indeed one
     might go so far as to say hope - that the aforementioned
     period may be, at the end of the day, when all relevant 
     factors have been taken into consideration, susceptible to
     being deemed to be such as to merit a final verdict of 
     having been by no means unsatisfactory in its overall 
     outcome and, in the final analysis, to give grounds for 
     being judged, on mature reflection, to have been conducive
     to generating a degree of gratification which will be seen
     in retrospect to have been significantly higher than the
     general average.

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#53723

FromTom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com>
Date2013-12-23 22:58 +0000
Message-ID<bhrtgdFlou3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53721
> In article <bhhk24Fgd7fU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
><clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for


[snip]


> Try this version from the old UK comedy show "Yes Minister" ...
>
>      I wonder if I might crave your momentary indulgence in
>      order to discharge a by no means disagreeable obligation
>      which has, over the years, become more or less established
>      practice in government service as we approach the terminal
>      period of the year - calendar, of course, not financial -
>      in fact, not to put too fine a point on it, Week Fifty-One
>      - and submit to you, with all appropriate deference, for
>      your consideration at a convenient juncture, a sincere and
>      sanguine expectation - indeed confidence - indeed one
>      might go so far as to say hope - that the aforementioned
>      period may be, at the end of the day, when all relevant
>      factors have been taken into consideration, susceptible to
>      being deemed to be such as to merit a final verdict of
>      having been by no means unsatisfactory in its overall
>      outcome and, in the final analysis, to give grounds for
>      being judged, on mature reflection, to have been conducive
>      to generating a degree of gratification which will be seen
>      in retrospect to have been significantly higher than the
>      general average.

Nice but some tweaks on the date references mightr make it more appropriate
for Thanksgiving.

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#53530

FromJohn <Man@the.keyboard>
Date2013-12-19 20:55 +0000
Message-ID<opm6b99aqob9d1ruo2dqb11ocbstn2ccvc@4ax.com>
In reply to#53475
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:45:56 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>In article <rqi4b9den4a74e5jjk653vosh00u4208uq@4ax.com>, John
><Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>> >When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, they're making an erroneous
>> >assumption about me.
>> 
>>  Sorry but I'm not.
>
>Yes, you are.

 I assumed you were smart enough to know that some beings use
"Christams" as a sort of shorthand for "the Winter Festival that has
in many cultures been usurped by Christmas" or some such, and that you
were tolerant and accepting enough to tolerate and accept its use. 
 I see I was entirely incorrect and I apologise for assuming anything
about you.  

>
 <snip>
>
>"Happy holidays" conveys the same message without the assumption about
>which holiday I might be celebrating or observing.

You are totally correct on one thing: I never should have started
this. I was entirely and utterly wrong to do so. I should never have
opened my Agent and mouthed off with my pettiness and pottery. I
should have left you all alone.
 That, at least, I can do from now on. With my profoundest apologies
for disturbing your tranquility.
 I won't wish you "goodbye" for as you know and would instantly get
all huffy about that word, too, has some connection to a small,
transient cult that you seem to dislike.

>
>All that said, I'd rather someone wish me a Merry Christmas than ignore
>me, but if someone does, I'll know that person is assuming that I'm
>Christian.  In the normal course of events, with the majority of people
>who do that, I'll not make an issue of it, but with a select few, I'll
>politely explain that I'm not Christian and that Christmas is not my
>Holy Day.

 Oh. So you only get prissy and huffy when it's me? It's entirely
personal and not a general bigotry? Nice to know.
 Is "have a nice day" acceptable or would that be me assuming you're
American and that you don't mind the religious associations of the
word "day" which, after all, has been associated with "holy" in some
contexts.
                         
 Merry Christmas to those who don't mind too much and "be happy" to
those who would,
 exits, 
                              J. 

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#53544

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-12-19 20:43 -0700
Message-ID<191220132043021536%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#53530
In article <opm6b99aqob9d1ruo2dqb11ocbstn2ccvc@4ax.com>, John
<Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> >> >When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, they're making an erroneous
> >> >assumption about me.
> >> 
> >>  Sorry but I'm not.
> >
> >Yes, you are.
> 
>  I assumed you were smart enough to know that some beings use
> "Christams" as a sort of shorthand for "the Winter Festival that has
> in many cultures been usurped by Christmas" or some such,

I'm smart enough to know that's not the case for the majority of people
who say "Merry Christmas".  I'm also smart enough to know that the
small minority who do that are lazy, obnoxious, and insensitive.

> I see I was entirely incorrect and I apologise for assuming anything
> about you.  

It appears that my assumption that you are a condescending ass is right
on the mark.

> >All that said, I'd rather someone wish me a Merry Christmas than ignore
> >me, but if someone does, I'll know that person is assuming that I'm
> >Christian.  In the normal course of events, with the majority of people
> >who do that, I'll not make an issue of it, but with a select few, I'll
> >politely explain that I'm not Christian and that Christmas is not my
> >Holy Day.
> 
>  Oh. So you only get prissy and huffy when it's me? 

My, but you are an egocentric jerk.  Despite your grandiose opinion of
yourself, this is not about you.

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#53491

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-12-19 15:15 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlb63cs.g52.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#53468
In message <181220131813500180%michelle@michelle.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <0rg4b9d4d8ov3ilptqmsvso6gm10f4vd41@4ax.com>, John
> <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

>> How simple can it get? It's been Christmas for centuries. It's still
>> Christmas. Just because your TV guys are too scared of losing
>> advertising revenue and the fear has spread to every other corner of
>> your country it hasn't suddenly *stopped* being Christmas. The
>> celebration is "Christmas", not "Holiday". 

> Unless it's Yule/Solstice or Chanukkah or Kwanzaa, or Festivus, or
> maybe some other holiday that I've not heard of.

Maybe this year is the year I put up the Festivus Pole. Probably not.

> When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, they're making an erroneous
> assumption about me.

Exactly. It's almost as annoying as when someone tells me to have "a
blessed day" to which it is very difficult to not respond, "Hail Satan!"

-- 
'We'll all be killed.' 'Think of it as the lesser of two evils.' 'What's
the other one?' Vimes drew his sword.  'Me.' --Jingo

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#53520

FromJim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com>
Date2013-12-19 10:26 -0800
Message-ID<191220131026443544%jimsgibson@gmail.com>
In reply to#53491
In article <slrnlb63cs.g52.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <181220131813500180%michelle@michelle.org> 
>   Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <0rg4b9d4d8ov3ilptqmsvso6gm10f4vd41@4ax.com>, John
> > <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> 
> >> How simple can it get? It's been Christmas for centuries. It's still
> >> Christmas. Just because your TV guys are too scared of losing
> >> advertising revenue and the fear has spread to every other corner of
> >> your country it hasn't suddenly *stopped* being Christmas. The
> >> celebration is "Christmas", not "Holiday". 
> 
> > Unless it's Yule/Solstice or Chanukkah or Kwanzaa, or Festivus, or
> > maybe some other holiday that I've not heard of.
> 
> Maybe this year is the year I put up the Festivus Pole. Probably not.

Like this one?:

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/festivus-florida-pole_n_442782
8.html>

-- 
Jim Gibson

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#53470

FromWes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us>
Date2013-12-18 20:28 -0500
Message-ID<l8ti4b$q4c$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53456
On 12-18-2013, 18:03, D.F. Manno wrote:
> But really, how is it any skin off your nose if people say "Happy
> Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas"? It seems remarkably churlish of
> you to insist on a specific greeting, and not at all in keeping with the
> spirit of the holiday you profess to be celebrating.

It seems to me remarkably churlish to insist on or protest either one.

-- 
Wes Groleau

   “There are more people worthy of blame
    than there is blame to go around."

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#53472

FromJohn <Man@the.keyboard>
Date2013-12-19 01:46 +0000
Message-ID<ksj4b9dmt3568qh0po4r0eddim4ka6679q@4ax.com>
In reply to#53470
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:28:43 -0500, Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us>
wrote:

>On 12-18-2013, 18:03, D.F. Manno wrote:
>> But really, how is it any skin off your nose if people say "Happy
>> Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas"? It seems remarkably churlish of
>> you to insist on a specific greeting, and not at all in keeping with the
>> spirit of the holiday you profess to be celebrating.
>
>It seems to me remarkably churlish to insist on or protest either one.

 Hmm, good point.
 Merry Christmas Holidays (if you are on holiday). 
 Merry Christams if not.
                           J. 

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#53430

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2013-12-18 11:11 -0500
Message-ID<52b1c92f$0$10547$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#53419
In article <52b1285d$0$1301$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Apple has produced a nice ad/youtube for Christmas.
> 
> Apple  - Holyday - TV Ad - Misunderstood - Youtube
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImlmVqH_5HM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DImlmVq
> > H_5HM&app=desktop
> 
> The above was tweeted by Tim Cook.
> 
> The longer version: (better in my opinion)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEGLhdaFBSE
> 
> 
> Very classy and really capture christmas as a family

Any misunderstood teenager with a big budget can make mommy cry, right? 
I prefer the Budweiser horse: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRpPAibi_ck
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#53438

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-12-18 11:37 -0600
Message-ID<CED73987.A5A3B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#53430


On 12/18/13 10:11 AM, in article
52b1c92f$0$10547$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com, "Warren Oates"
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <52b1285d$0$1301$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>,
>  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Apple has produced a nice ad/youtube for Christmas.
>> 
>> Apple  - Holyday - TV Ad - Misunderstood - Youtube
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImlmVqH_5HM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DImlmVq
>>> H_5HM&app=desktop
>> 
>> The above was tweeted by Tim Cook.
>> 
>> The longer version: (better in my opinion)
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEGLhdaFBSE
>> 
>> 
>> Very classy and really capture christmas as a family
> 
> Any misunderstood teenager with a big budget can make mommy cry, right?
> I prefer the Budweiser horse:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRpPAibi_ck

Yeah! That one is absolutely a WINNER! Got something in my eye...

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#53464

FromJohn <Man@the.keyboard>
Date2013-12-19 00:37 +0000
Message-ID<1tf4b9hhfbkrdrcg043oo0f5s1ilqhl930@4ax.com>
In reply to#53430
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:11:27 -0500, Warren Oates
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <52b1285d$0$1301$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> Apple has produced a nice ad/youtube for Christmas.
>> 
>> Apple  - Holyday - TV Ad - Misunderstood - Youtube
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImlmVqH_5HM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DImlmVq
>> > H_5HM&app=desktop
>> 
>> The above was tweeted by Tim Cook.
>> 
>> The longer version: (better in my opinion)
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEGLhdaFBSE
>> 
>> 
>> Very classy and really capture christmas as a family
>
>Any misunderstood teenager with a big budget can make mommy cry, right? 
>I prefer the Budweiser horse: 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRpPAibi_ck

 So, did he eat it or what? I hate it when they only give half of the
story.
         J. 

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