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| Started by | Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-16 20:02 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-16 22:04 -0400 |
| Articles | 4 on this page of 44 — 7 participants |
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Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 20:02 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 20:20 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-17 12:57 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-16 20:24 -0700
Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-16 20:29 -0700
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 21:09 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 21:31 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 10:33 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-17 23:39 +0100
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 10:50 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-17 23:54 +0100
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:09 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:06 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:09 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:21 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-18 00:36 +0100
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 14:08 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-18 09:45 +0100
Re: Writer Needs Help dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-05-24 08:10 +1000
Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-24 13:04 +0100
Re: Writer Needs Help dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-05-25 08:32 +1000
Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-17 16:43 -0700
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 14:09 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:58 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:06 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:08 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:56 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:50 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 14:10 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 14:26 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 15:21 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:37 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 15:56 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 16:07 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:31 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 19:48 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 20:44 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-05-18 23:42 -0400
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-19 09:38 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-17 13:43 +1200
Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 22:04 -0400
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| From | J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 23:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <llbuia$s5f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59498 |
On 5/18/14, 8:44 PM, Alek Trishan wrote: > nospam has written on 5/18/2014 7:48 PM: >> In article <llbfso$iet$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan >> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Can't she run the 17" without a battery, from (as you would say) the >>>>>>>>> mains? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> she can but it will be roughly half its normal speed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really? What causes that? >>>>>> >>>>>> according to apple, >>>>>> >>>>>> If the battery is removed from a MacBook or MacBook Pro, the >>>>>> computer will automatically reduce the processor speed. This prevents >>>>>> the computer from shutting down if it demands more power than the A/C >>>>>> adapter alone can provide. >>>>> >>>>> So the AC adapter is deliberately crippled so they can sell more >>>>> batteries??? >>>> >>>> how do you get that? >>>> >>>> normally, the power consumption of the macbook is well under what the >>>> power adapter can provide. however, it's possible that a peak burst >>>> could momentarily push it beyond, in which case the battery will fill >>>> the void until it drops back down. it's just a brief spike. >>> >>> I never heard of that with a PC. Apparently, either PC OSes operate >>> differently or the PC laptop manufacturers supply an adapter that can >>> handle anything thrown at it. >> >> apparently they don't. >> >> <http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=HT075965> >> Newer ThinkPads make use of high performance CPUs that may require >> more power than what the 65W adapter can provide while also >> supporting USB, Optical and other attached devices, especially in >> docked configurations. To prevent the potential for sudden system >> shut down if the power demand exceeds what the adapter can supply, >> the maximum clock speed may be limited when the system is operated on >> the 65W AC adapter and no battery is installed. > > From the same source: > > "Solution: If maximum frequency operation is preferred in such > situations, a 90W AC adapter should be used. " > >>> Can you tell me what kind of program might cause a spike in power needed? >> >> 3d gaming. > > I can assure you that she will never ever if-she-lives-to-be-150 be a 3D > gamer. :-) > > Any others? > The CPU use of my 2012 Mini is normally under 10%, but some system housekeeping will make it spike much higher. Handbrake, which converts videos to MP4, will hold it at 100%. It amazes me that in 20 minutes, this doesn't heat the CPU enough for the fan to speed up.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 09:38 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <190520140938093038%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59480 |
In article <llat25$bph$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote: > Your Name has written on 5/17/2014 9:50 PM: > >> > >> Wouldn't check and repair be more cost-effective than buying a > >> replacement unit??? > > > > Depends on how much damage has been done - if the battery has damaged > > the connectors on the motherboard, the case structure, etc., then it's > > possible that it's almost cheaper to just buy a good second-hand or > > even new laptop, especially once you total up the cost of the parts and > > the labour. > > Can't she run the 17" without a battery, from (as you would say) the mains? Probably, but again it depends on exactly what damage may have been done internally and need fixing.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-17 13:43 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <170520141343454173%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59396 |
In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote: > Alek Trishan has written on 5/16/2014 8:02 PM: > > A writer friend of mine wrote: > > > > "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just > > noticed it. I donít know that that can be fixed. I donít know that itís > > worth it to try. Itís seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go. > > But it still works. Itís working now, even with the battery popped out. > > I called my insurance company to see if theyíll pay for it to be > > repaired. Will let you know. Thatís my backup. I need a backup!" > > > > And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote, > > > > "I think it needs more than a battery. Thereís some metal stuff that has > > exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I donít know the > > model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldnít help you. > > Itís a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. Theyíre not made anymore." > > > > Is there any help for her computer? > > > > How does she find the model designation? > > > > Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is > > that they are marketed by Apple. > > I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display. In that case, just transfer any user files (the easiest way is to us a USB stick or email them to herself) and throw away the broken laptop - wipe or remove the hard drive first though. Someone may even buy the broken laptop on eBay, CraigsList, or similar for parts.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-16 22:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160520142204598255%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #59400 |
In article <170520141343454173%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display. > > In that case, just transfer any user files (the easiest way is to us a > USB stick or email them to herself) and throw away the broken laptop - > wipe or remove the hard drive first though. no, the easiest way is using wifi or ethernet. > Someone may even buy the broken laptop on eBay, CraigsList, or similar > for parts. they definitely will and for a surprisingly good price.
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