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| Started by | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-05-15 15:31 +0200 |
| Last post | 2014-05-17 11:04 +1200 |
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Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-15 15:31 +0200
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-15 09:59 -0400
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-15 16:15 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-15 08:51 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-15 16:03 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-05-16 17:14 +1000
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-16 22:20 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-17 15:57 +0000
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:32 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-05-17 09:20 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 10:24 +1200
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-18 03:20 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 14:37 +1200
Re: Windows 7? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-18 02:43 +0000
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-18 10:05 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-19 09:35 +1200
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-19 01:22 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-19 13:25 +1200
Re: Windows 7? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 02:40 +0000
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-19 12:43 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-20 09:06 +1200
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-20 00:04 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-20 13:31 +1200
Re: Windows 7? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-15 22:49 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-18 18:34 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-18 21:12 -0700
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-19 12:47 +0200
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-19 16:54 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-19 19:09 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 10:04 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 07:57 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 11:05 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 08:44 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 12:18 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 09:47 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 09:49 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 10:28 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-20 18:32 +0000
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 11:43 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 15:15 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 23:28 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 08:28 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 08:54 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 19:17 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 23:16 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-22 09:35 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-22 07:35 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-22 13:01 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 19:23 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-22 13:02 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 19:24 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-22 13:02 -0400
Re: Windows 7? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-21 16:10 -0500
Re: Windows 7? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-21 16:03 -0500
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 08:52 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 12:19 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 09:41 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-20 17:53 +0100
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 15:09 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 13:12 -0700
Re: Windows 7? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-20 22:52 +0100
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 17:56 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 15:18 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 19:07 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 19:40 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-20 20:26 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 08:32 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-21 14:21 -0400
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 19:18 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 19:39 -0700
Re: Windows 7? "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-21 08:30 -0400
Re: Windows 7? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-05-21 16:13 -0500
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-15 19:18 +0200
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-15 21:12 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-15 21:56 +0200
Re: Windows 7? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-05-16 00:31 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-15 22:02 +0200
Re: Windows 7? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-05-15 22:19 +0000
Re: Windows 7? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-17 02:46 +0200
Re: Windows 7? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-15 15:57 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-15 22:50 -0400
Re: Windows 7? Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-05-16 17:10 +1000
Re: Windows 7? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-17 11:04 +1200
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-15 15:31 +0200 |
| Subject | Windows 7? |
| Message-ID | <ll2fio$van$1@solani.org> |
Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-15 09:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ll2h7f$51b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59357 |
"ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org... >Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my >MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit >confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a >virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have >bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... >Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows?
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-15 16:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ll2i6e$969$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #59358 |
Puffin Killer wrote: > "ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org... >> Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my >> MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit >> confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a >> virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have >> bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... > >> Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? > > You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows? Two reasons... 1. I have some applications that will only run on Windows. Until now I've been running XPPro on my other MacPro - also in a VM. 2. I still test software especially for visually and reading impaired that donot run on Mac OS X. I know I could buy a cheap Win-box to do the testing, but since I myself a.m.o. need to use ZoomView it'll be easier - and cheaper - for me to use a VM on the MacPro. - If I should buy a similar enlargement tool for Windows, it will be very expensive... Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-15 08:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-91AF9F.08514915052014@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59359 |
In article <ll2i6e$969$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > Puffin Killer wrote: > > "ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org... > >> Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my > >> MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit > >> confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a > >> virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have > >> bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... > > > >> Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? > > > > You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows? > > Two reasons... > 1. I have some applications that will only run on Windows. Until now > I've been running XPPro on my other MacPro - also in a VM. > 2. I still test software especially for visually and reading impaired > that donot run on Mac OS X. > > I know I could buy a cheap Win-box to do the testing, but since I myself > a.m.o. need to use ZoomView it'll be easier - and cheaper - for me to > use a VM on the MacPro. - If I should buy a similar enlargement tool for > Windows, it will be very expensive... > > Cheers, Erik Richard I run Windows 7 in a Parallels VM to web site testing. I test my site against Internet Explorer. I've found that I could use Crossover for IE 7, 8, or 9. So I run the latest release (10?) on Parallels. It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera, Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a $600 CD. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-15 16:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Q5ydnfBAnZ0TgOjOnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #59360 |
On 2014.05.15, 11:51 , Michael Vilain wrote:
> In article <ll2i6e$969$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Puffin Killer wrote:
>>> "ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org...
>>>> Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my
>>>> MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit
>>>> confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a
>>>> virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have
>>>> bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits...
>>>
>>>> Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits?
>>>
>>> You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows?
>>
>> Two reasons...
>> 1. I have some applications that will only run on Windows. Until now
>> I've been running XPPro on my other MacPro - also in a VM.
>> 2. I still test software especially for visually and reading impaired
>> that donot run on Mac OS X.
>>
>> I know I could buy a cheap Win-box to do the testing, but since I myself
>> a.m.o. need to use ZoomView it'll be easier - and cheaper - for me to
>> use a VM on the MacPro. - If I should buy a similar enlargement tool for
>> Windows, it will be very expensive...
>>
>> Cheers, Erik Richard
>
> I run Windows 7 in a Parallels VM to web site testing. I test my site
> against Internet Explorer. I've found that I could use Crossover for IE
> 7, 8, or 9. So I run the latest release (10?) on Parallels.
>
> It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it
> automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera,
> Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though
> I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to
> reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and
> I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't
> seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and
> am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with
> VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a
> $600 CD.
MS has never been known for each finger knowing what each other finger
is doing.
--
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
-Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07
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| From | Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> |
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| Date | 2014-05-16 17:14 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <flebn91r95i2f750vttjsea69d92uk5g9m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #59360 |
On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:51:49 -0700, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >In article <ll2i6e$969$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> >wrote: > >> Puffin Killer wrote: >> > "ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org... >> >> Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my >> >> MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit >> >> confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a >> >> virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have >> >> bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... >> > >> >> Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? >> > >> > You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows? >> >> Two reasons... >> 1. I have some applications that will only run on Windows. Until now >> I've been running XPPro on my other MacPro - also in a VM. >> 2. I still test software especially for visually and reading impaired >> that donot run on Mac OS X. >> >> I know I could buy a cheap Win-box to do the testing, but since I myself >> a.m.o. need to use ZoomView it'll be easier - and cheaper - for me to >> use a VM on the MacPro. - If I should buy a similar enlargement tool for >> Windows, it will be very expensive... >> >> Cheers, Erik Richard > >I run Windows 7 in a Parallels VM to web site testing. I test my site >against Internet Explorer. I've found that I could use Crossover for IE >7, 8, or 9. So I run the latest release (10?) on Parallels. > >It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it >automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera, >Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though >I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to >reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and >I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't >seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and >am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with >VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a >$600 CD. Just buy a valid copy. -- Creationists - get educated before you argue, And when you're corrected, try to learn something. Creationists only need know that Evolution is important proven science and creation is made up nonsense
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-16 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oh8i4b-d91.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #59379 |
On 2014-05-16, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:51:49 -0700, Michael Vilain ><vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> >>It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it >>automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera, >>Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though >>I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to >>reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and >>I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't >>seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and >>am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with >>VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a >>$600 CD. > > Just buy a valid copy. He's already got a valid copy that he or his employers paid for. Money doesn't grow on trees. I had great difficulty reauthorising a copy of Windows 8 to work in a different VM because of the obstacles Microsoft put in my way. -- Paul Sture The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-17 15:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlnf1o8.2omu.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59387 |
In message <oh8i4b-d91.ln1@news.chingola.ch> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > On 2014-05-16, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote: >> On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:51:49 -0700, Michael Vilain >><vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >>> >>>It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it >>>automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera, >>>Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though >>>I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to >>>reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and >>>I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't >>>seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and >>>am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with >>>VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a >>>$600 CD. >> >> Just buy a valid copy. > He's already got a valid copy that he or his employers paid for. > Money doesn't grow on trees. I had great difficulty reauthorising a copy > of Windows 8 to work in a different VM because of the obstacles Microsoft > put in my way. My solution would be to get a cracked copy. Problem solved. -- Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don'tcha think?
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-17 19:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ll86fc$iqc$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #59425 |
Lewis wrote: > Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: >> On 2014-05-16, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote: >>> Just buy a valid copy. > >> He's already got a valid copy that he or his employers paid for. > >> Money doesn't grow on trees. I had great difficulty reauthorising a copy >> of Windows 8 to work in a different VM because of the obstacles Microsoft >> put in my way. > > My solution would be to get a cracked copy. Problem solved. Could be, but since I sometimes also have to contact Microsoft, when I'm testing the various appications, it wouldn't be that nice to have a cracked copy. - The nice thing would be if MS would sponsor me with a legal copy.:-) As already written I have a full legal Parallels 6.x laying on the writing table just waiting to be installed with a Windows 7 version... Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-17 09:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-602722.09204617052014@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59379 |
In article <flebn91r95i2f750vttjsea69d92uk5g9m@4ax.com>, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:51:49 -0700, Michael Vilain > <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > >In article <ll2i6e$969$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> > >wrote: > > > >> Puffin Killer wrote: > >> > "ErikRS" wrote in message news:ll2fio$van$1@solani.org... > >> >> Sadly I'll need to have a Windows 7 Home Ultimate installation on my > >> >> MacPro1.1 Xeon Quad 4x3,0ghz (prod. Summer 07), but infact I'm a bit > >> >> confused which version to choose or not. - It will be installed as a > >> >> virtual machine using Paralles Desktop 6.x which I already have > >> >> bought. Some say 32bits, some 64bits... > >> > > >> >> Which version should I buy - 32bits or 64bits? > >> > > >> > You have a Mac. Why in the world would you need Windows? > >> > >> Two reasons... > >> 1. I have some applications that will only run on Windows. Until now > >> I've been running XPPro on my other MacPro - also in a VM. > >> 2. I still test software especially for visually and reading impaired > >> that donot run on Mac OS X. > >> > >> I know I could buy a cheap Win-box to do the testing, but since I myself > >> a.m.o. need to use ZoomView it'll be easier - and cheaper - for me to > >> use a VM on the MacPro. - If I should buy a similar enlargement tool for > >> Windows, it will be very expensive... > >> > >> Cheers, Erik Richard > > > >I run Windows 7 in a Parallels VM to web site testing. I test my site > >against Internet Explorer. I've found that I could use Crossover for IE > >7, 8, or 9. So I run the latest release (10?) on Parallels. > > > >It's a pain firing it up monthly, having to reset my password (it > >automatically expires after 30 days), and update Windows, Adobe, Opera, > >Firefox, and Chrome. The virtual disk has ballooned to 64GB even though > >I regularly defragment and compress it. I think I'm about ready to > >reinstall Windows. The problem is that my codes don't work any more and > >I have to call Microsoft to reauthorize a Windows install. They don't > >seem to understand what Virtual instance and that I bought Windows and > >am re-installing on a VM. Which is weird because M$ partners with > >VMware to sell Windows 2008 Server as their controller. And that's a > >$600 CD. > > Just buy a valid copy. The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid copy? -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 10:24 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <180520141024129498%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59427 |
In article <vilain-602722.09204617052014@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the > certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to > install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for > authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid > copy? OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries.
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 03:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ll91t5$lbj$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #59440 |
Your Name wrote: > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the >> certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to >> install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for >> authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid >> copy? > > OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer > Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it > came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is > breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries. No, they aren't! If you buy either Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion you're legalized to buy an OEM version of a given Microsoft windows version! Also some stores/resellers are legalized to sell OEM Windows systems, when they at the same time sell a piece of hardware that can be used with the computer to which the system is intended. Selling Windows versions - i.e. fx. to a standard self-built PC isnot legal! When I bought my Parallels Desktop 4.x I bought it along with a OEM ver. of Microsoft Windows XPPro SP2/DK - and that at a Mac reseller store here. Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 14:37 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <180520141437129506%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59456 |
In article <ll91t5$lbj$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > Your Name wrote: > > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >> The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the > >> certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to > >> install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for > >> authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid > >> copy? > > > > OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer > > Such a version is only valid when installed on the original computer it > > came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is > > breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries. > > No, they aren't! Yes, they are. "OEM" version *MUST* come with the "Original Equipment" and that is where the software in *ONLY* allowed to be installed / reinstalled ... hence the term "OEM". :-\ The manufacturer pays a special license fee to include the software with their equipment. Most of the companies making Windows PCs have such a deal. Anyone selling "OEM" versions of software *separately* is breaking that license agreement, if not also the law. In some cases "OEM" labelled software is simply mass-pirated versions by unlicensed retailers. > If you buy either Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion > you're legalized to buy an OEM version of a given Microsoft windows version! > > Also some stores/resellers are legalized to sell OEM Windows systems, > when they at the same time sell a piece of hardware that can be used > with the computer to which the system is intended. > > Selling Windows versions - i.e. fx. to a standard self-built PC isnot legal! > > When I bought my Parallels Desktop 4.x I bought it along with a OEM ver. > of Microsoft Windows XPPro SP2/DK - and that at a Mac reseller store here. Assuming it was a legal pack, then that is because those VMWare / Parallels (or Virtual PC on 'classic' Macs) or in some case the retailer has paid the license fee to be allowed to legally bundle an OEM verison of Windows, with the Desktop / Fusion virtual computer being the "Original Equipment" it is to be used with. Again, if you install that version on a proper PC or even under Boot Camp, then you are breaking the licence aggreement.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 02:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlng7hl.p8p.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59456 |
In message <ll91t5$lbj$1@solani.org> ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > Your Name wrote: >> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >>> The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the >>> certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to >>> install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for >>> authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid >>> copy? >> >> OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer >> Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it >> came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is >> breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries. > No, they aren't! If you buy either Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion > you're legalized to buy an OEM version of a given Microsoft windows version! Yes, but the person you are responding to believes you should pull your car onto the shoulder to change the radio station, adjust the heat, or blink your eyes. -- 'Sometimes there has to be a civil war, and sometimes, afterwards, it's best to pretend something didn't happen. Sometimes people have to do a job, and then they have to be forgotten.' --Men at Arms
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-18 10:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <676m4b-mf9.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #59440 |
On 2014-05-17, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <vilain-602722.09204617052014@news.individual.net>, Michael > Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> >> The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the >> certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to >> install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for >> authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid >> copy? > > OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer > Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it > came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is > breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries. Balderdash. You can buy OEM distributions separately from a computer. They also come with software to build your own custom installation and "first boot startup experience", and strictly speaking you are supposed to resell the computer, but Microsoft have never enforced this. From a pro-Microsoftie: <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/is-it-ok-to-use-oem-windows-on-your-own-pc-dont-ask-microsoft/1561> and a bit more: <http://www.everything-microsoft.com/2009/11/16/the-oem-eula-mystery-unravelled/> Since Windows 8 came out they have apparently changed their stance, and specifically allow you to run it on a computer you build yourself, or in a separate partition or virtual machine <http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-radically-overhauls-license-agreements-for-windows-8-7000002866/> -- Paul Sture The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 09:35 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <190520140935243118%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59475 |
In article <676m4b-mf9.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > On 2014-05-17, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > In article <vilain-602722.09204617052014@news.individual.net>, Michael > > Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >> > >> The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the > >> certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to > >> install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for > >> authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid > >> copy? > > > > OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer > > Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it > > came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is > > breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries. > > Balderdash. You can buy OEM distributions separately from a computer. OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER How difficult is that to understand?? :-\
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 01:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <llbfch$dgd$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #59490 |
Your Name wrote: > OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER > How difficult is that to understand?? :-\ Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter - with Microsoft's own VirtualPC? Stop now before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself than you already have done.... Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 13:25 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <190520141325182240%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #59494 |
In article <llbfch$dgd$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > Your Name wrote: > > OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER > > How difficult is that to understand?? :-\ > > Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it > for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO > SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example > along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter - > with Microsoft's own VirtualPC? Because, as I already said, the Parallels Desktop / Fusion virtual computer is the "Original Equipment" from the licensed "manufacturer", Parallels / VMWare. It's a bundle deal, same as having the OEM version come with a real computer. You still aren't meant to install that version on any other device or virtualisation / emulation product. It's ONLY FOR USE WITH THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT. Plus, as you've just said, they have a *licence* to bundle it, which is what I said all along. Anyone selling OEM products *SEPARATELY* or installing that software on other equipment is breaking the OEM agreement, and in some places that is illegal (which is why it's often dodgey Asian webstores that sell OEM products separately). Good grief! I know words with more than one syllable are difficult for most Internet users to understand since they switch their brains off when turning on the modem, but it ain't exactly rocket science. OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER, ie. the manufacturer licensed to bundle the OEM software with their equipment. :-\
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 02:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlnirp2.1l8g.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #59494 |
In message <llbfch$dgd$1@solani.org> ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: > Your Name wrote: >> OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER >> How difficult is that to understand?? :-\ > Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it > for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO > SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example > along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter - > with Microsoft's own VirtualPC? You're arguing with a moron. You can't win, he will still be a moron. -- Ahahahahaha! Ahahahaha! Aahahaha! BEWARE!!!!! Yrs sincerely The Opera Ghost
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| From | ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-19 12:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <llcn8k$o6m$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #59503 |
Lewis wrote: > ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote: >> Your Name wrote: >>> OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER >>> How difficult is that to understand?? :-\ >> >> Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it >> for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO >> SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example >> along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter - >> with Microsoft's own VirtualPC? > > You're arguing with a moron. You can't win, he will still be a moron. Yeah, sadly so, - I think he's beyond any kind of reach... Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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