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Dock won't pop up

Started byAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
First post2014-04-05 18:07 -0400
Last post2014-04-19 10:12 -0400
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  Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-05 18:07 -0400
    Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 07:37 -0400
      Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-07 10:36 +1000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:47 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-04-07 15:44 -0700
            Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-08 10:37 +1000
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:09 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-04-12 18:57 -0700
                  Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-13 13:07 +1000
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 09:31 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 09:31 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-13 16:58 +0200
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 12:08 -0400
                        Re: Dock won't pop up android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-13 18:25 +0200
                          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 12:28 -0400
                            Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:29 +0000
                              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:10 -0400
                                Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:34 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 18:20 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 23:59 +0000
                                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-17 15:02 -0400
                                Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:37 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 18:20 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-17 00:01 +0000
                        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-13 16:00 -0400
                        Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:28 +0000
                          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:02 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:26 +0000
            Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:08 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-09 14:46 +0000
                Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 20:59 -0400
    Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-06 10:10 -0400
      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 11:07 -0400
        Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-06 15:23 +0000
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 11:46 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-07 01:54 +0000
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:47 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-07 09:01 +1200
        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 16:40 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-04-06 17:24 -0500
      Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-06 17:20 +0000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-06 20:16 +0200
          Re: Dock won't pop up doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2014-04-06 20:29 +0000
          Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-07 01:57 +0000
            Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-07 16:05 +1200
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:50 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2014-04-09 02:46 +0000
        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 16:42 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:28 -0400
        Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-06 19:23 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 19:38 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-07 20:55 +0200
              Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-08 08:47 +1200
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 20:36 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-07 10:18 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:54 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-07 17:17 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 18:12 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 18:38 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 19:10 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:09 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-07 19:45 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 08:03 -0500
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-09 09:03 +1200
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:14 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:12 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-09 10:18 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 20:58 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-10 01:54 +0000
      Re: Dock won't pop up Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 13:34 +1000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-19 16:29 +1200
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 09:42 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 06:50 -0700
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 09:59 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 07:51 -0700
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 11:00 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 10:12 -0400

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#58405

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-08 17:09 -0400
Message-ID<L6idnZuHya3n-NnOnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58390
On 2014.04.07, 19:10 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <GPCdnauoR_tGtd7OnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2014.04.07, 18:12 , Warren Oates wrote:
>> > In article <534315f0$0$46385$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>,
>> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> IN fairness, there are times where a reboot is faster than putzing
>> >> around trying things in the blind.
>> >
>> > Depends. If I tell the Mac to restart, it will be at least 4 minutesor
>> > more before I'm back at my Finder screen. Putzing around, at least I
>> can
>> > continue to download my spanking videos in the background.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, my Arch Linux laptop reboots (to X) in about 40
>> > seconds. And ext4 journaling is so robust that it's actually faster and
>> > easier to reboot by pushing the power button. Oh oh, here comes Teh
>> > Appol Duhfense L33g.
>>
>> Nothing like a fast booting system that's otherwise useless.
>
> Like I said, here they cum ...

Linux is great.  Just not as a general purpose desktop OS.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58391

FromDorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
Date2014-04-07 19:45 -0400
Message-ID<lhvdah$nl3$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#58385
On 4/7/14, 4:54 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.07, 10:18 , Dorian Grey wrote:
>> On 4/6/14, 7:23 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
>>>>    Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>>>>> (would not pop up).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About
>>>>>> Finder"
>>>>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and
>>>>> resetting the system management controller could straig
>
>> OK, so a few minutes ago, I notice this dark outline of a large
>> rectangle about 12" x 7" on the desktop screen of my late 2012 21.5
>> iMac. Looked like about the size and shape of the outline of a Finder or
>> Pages/Numbers window. The wave image was continuous, the pointer could
>> move inside the outline, and i could even drag icons inside it where
>> they opened programs and pictures normally,
>>
>> All apps were closed, left and right clicks on an assortment of View and
>> other options from Finder menu bar and the desktop did nothing. Strange,
>> eh?
>>
>> I guess I could have opened a tech support trouble ticket or posted here
>> for help. Instead, I fixed it by.......yup, you guessed it--
>> rebooting... Yet another successful application of Occam's Razor.
>
> That's not a successful application of anything - though it is at least
> not as crazy as the PRAM reset...
>
> For your issue...
> Open a Finder or Pages or Number window and close again (after moving it
> around on the screen; or
>
> Finder re-start might have done it. (hold option and right click the
> finder in the dock - select relaunch).
>
> Or going to the widgets page and back (or any other workspace - or
> starting a new workspace).
>
> ie: try a few obvious things before a reboot.
>

My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven 
seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee 
or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the 
door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick feel.

But hey, you want to stay sedentary in your chair and initiate a complex 
multi-step troubleshoot all the while building up callouses on your 
finger tips and inviting thrombophlebitis, knock yourself out! Me? I 
never bring a machine gun to a mouse hunt.

-- 
“Political correctness is a doctrine-- fostered by an illogical minority 
and widely promoted by the mainstream media--  that postulates it’s 
entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
                                         -Unknown

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#58395

FromTed Lee <tmplee@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-08 08:03 -0500
Message-ID<li0s3g$rl4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58391
On 4/7/14, 6:45 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
> My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven
> seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee
> or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the
> door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick
> feel.

My "Late 2012" 13" MacBook Pro Retina restarts in 50 seconds (plus the 
time to log in -- I have auto login turned off.)

-- 
Ted

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#58403

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-09 09:03 +1200
Message-ID<090420140903577152%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#58395
In article <li0s3g$rl4$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 4/7/14, 6:45 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
> > 
> > My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven
> > seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee
> > or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the
> > door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick
> > feel.
> 
> My "Late 2012" 13" MacBook Pro Retina restarts in 50 seconds (plus the 
> time to log in -- I have auto login turned off.)

I've never timed it, but my beige PowerMac G3 boots into Mac OS X 10.2
in less than a minute, and quite a bit longer for Mac OS 9.2.

Those who complain about the Mac boot times are simply impatient.

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#58408

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-08 17:14 -0400
Message-ID<L6idnZSHya0l-9nOnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58403
On 2014.04.08, 17:03 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <li0s3g$rl4$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/7/14, 6:45 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
>>>
>>> My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven
>>> seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee
>>> or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the
>>> door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick
>>> feel.
>>
>> My "Late 2012" 13" MacBook Pro Retina restarts in 50 seconds (plus the
>> time to log in -- I have auto login turned off.)
>
> I've never timed it, but my beige PowerMac G3 boots into Mac OS X 10.2
> in less than a minute, and quite a bit longer for Mac OS 9.2.
>
> Those who complain about the Mac boot times are simply impatient.

I do it so seldom it's not worth mention.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58407

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-08 17:12 -0400
Message-ID<L6idnZWHya2h-9nOnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58391
On 2014.04.07, 19:45 , Dorian Grey wrote:
> On 4/7/14, 4:54 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> That's not a successful application of anything - though it is at least
>> not as crazy as the PRAM reset...
>>
>> For your issue...
>> Open a Finder or Pages or Number window and close again (after moving it
>> around on the screen; or
>>
>> Finder re-start might have done it. (hold option and right click the
>> finder in the dock - select relaunch).
>>
>> Or going to the widgets page and back (or any other workspace - or
>> starting a new workspace).
>>
>> ie: try a few obvious things before a reboot.
>>
>
> My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven
> seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee
> or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the
> door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick
> feel.
>
> But hey, you want to stay sedentary in your chair and initiate a complex
> multi-step troubleshoot all the while building up callouses on your
> finger tips and inviting thrombophlebitis, knock yourself out! Me? I
> never bring a machine gun to a mouse hunt.

Nice how you couch that in terms that make my approach look silly - esp. 
given your silly suggestion to reset PRAM...  You need to look also at 
the future - and I'd rather spend the future knowing how to get around a 
problem or solving it instead of re-booting and reinforcing bad habits 
again and again.

Further, while the end-to-end boot time may be as you state, that does 
not account for interrupting work, saving the state of whatever 
documents are open, and then returning to that state of machine and mind 
afterward.

The things I list above can all be done in about 15 seconds.  Never
mind a minute.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07


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#58422

FromDorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
Date2014-04-09 10:18 -0400
Message-ID<li3kru$i13$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#58407
On 4/8/14, 5:12 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.07, 19:45 , Dorian Grey wrote:
>> On 4/7/14, 4:54 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> That's not a successful application of anything - though it is at least
>>> not as crazy as the PRAM reset...
>>>
>>> For your issue...
>>> Open a Finder or Pages or Number window and close again (after moving it
>>> around on the screen; or
>>>
>>> Finder re-start might have done it. (hold option and right click the
>>> finder in the dock - select relaunch).
>>>
>>> Or going to the widgets page and back (or any other workspace - or
>>> starting a new workspace).
>>>
>>> ie: try a few obvious things before a reboot.
>>>
>>
>> My stock, plain vanilla 21.5" 2012 iMac reboots in a minute and seven
>> seconds during which time I can walk away, pour myself a cup of coffee
>> or maybe take a fast wiz. Alternatively, I can stick my head out the
>> door and smell the roses...or if my lovely wife is around, cop a quick
>> feel.
>>
>> But hey, you want to stay sedentary in your chair and initiate a complex
>> multi-step troubleshoot all the while building up callouses on your
>> finger tips and inviting thrombophlebitis, knock yourself out! Me? I
>> never bring a machine gun to a mouse hunt.
>
> Nice how you couch that in terms that make my approach look silly - esp.
> given your silly suggestion to reset PRAM...  You need to look also at
> the future - and I'd rather spend the future knowing how to get around a
> problem or solving it instead of re-booting and reinforcing bad habits
> again and again.
>
> Further, while the end-to-end boot time may be as you state, that does
> not account for interrupting work, saving the state of whatever
> documents are open, and then returning to that state of machine and mind
> afterward.
>
> The things I list above can all be done in about 15 seconds.  Never
> mind a minute.
>

Yeah, in a lot of ways you're right. At least half they workarounds I've 
ever employed have come back to bite me in the ass one way or the other 
months or years later.

But hey, sometimes silicon is just plain hincky-- and a quick reboot 
clears the air...

-- 
"I am an old man and I have worried much about things that have never 
happened."
			—Mark Twain

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#58435

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-09 20:58 -0400
Message-ID<Cf-dneltHuktcdjOnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58422
On 2014.04.09, 10:18 , Dorian Grey wrote:
> On 4/8/14, 5:12 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

>> The things I list above can all be done in about 15 seconds.  Never
>> mind a minute.
>>
>
> Yeah, in a lot of ways you're right. At least half they workarounds I've
> ever employed have come back to bite me in the ass one way or the other
> months or years later.

In the context that I described such workarounds cannot cause a later 
bite - all they do is "release" whatever is hanging up presently - as 
described in my first post.

>
> But hey, sometimes silicon is just plain hincky-- and a quick reboot
> clears the air...

Sure - about 15 times/year on average for me.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58441

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-04-10 01:54 +0000
Message-ID<bqmbulFlgqcU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58435
On 2014-04-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.04.09, 10:18 , Dorian Grey wrote:
>> On 4/8/14, 5:12 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> The things I list above can all be done in about 15 seconds.  Never
>>> mind a minute.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, in a lot of ways you're right. At least half they workarounds I've
>> ever employed have come back to bite me in the ass one way or the other
>> months or years later.
>
> In the context that I described such workarounds cannot cause a later 
> bite - all they do is "release" whatever is hanging up presently - as 
> described in my first post.
>
>>
>> But hey, sometimes silicon is just plain hincky-- and a quick reboot
>> clears the air...
>
> Sure - about 15 times/year on average for me.

A similar number here. I restart only when needed. Life is easier that
way. : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#58636

FromBarry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au>
Date2014-04-19 13:34 +1000
Message-ID<dkr3l91ff1sgjrfq7so2bac33kls9sv0do@4ax.com>
In reply to#58356
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 10:10:38 -0400, Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
wrote:

>On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

Its only 19/04/14 today.

>The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
>	                     —Albert Einstein

Excellent.

-- 
Creationists - get educated before you argue,
And when you're corrected, try to learn something. 

Creationists only need know that
Evolution is important proven science
and
creation is made up nonsense

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#58637

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-19 16:29 +1200
Message-ID<190420141629240071%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#58636
In article <dkr3l91ff1sgjrfq7so2bac33kls9sv0do@4ax.com>, Barry OGrady
<atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 10:10:38 -0400, Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> 
> Its only 19/04/14 today.

Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
should say 5/4/14.

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#58650

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-19 09:42 -0400
Message-ID<oZCdncGRAtXG4M_OnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58637
On 2014.04.19, 00:29 , Your Name wrote:

> Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
> should say 5/4/14.

2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58652

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-04-19 06:50 -0700
Message-ID<190420140650401795%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#58650
In article <oZCdncGRAtXG4M_OnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2014.04.19, 00:29 , Your Name wrote:
> 
> > Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
> > should say 5/4/14.
> 
> 2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.

they want to get the fish out each month?

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#58654

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-19 09:59 -0400
Message-ID<OrqdncLI54CuHM_OnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58652
On 2014.04.19, 09:50 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <oZCdncGRAtXG4M_OnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2014.04.19, 00:29 , Your Name wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
>>> should say 5/4/14.
>>
>> 2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.
>
> they want to get the fish out each month?

Smelt?

spelt 1 |spɛlt|
chiefly Brit. past and past participle of spell1.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58656

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-04-19 07:51 -0700
Message-ID<190420140751159891%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#58654
In article <OrqdncLI54CuHM_OnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>> Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
> >>> should say 5/4/14.
> >>
> >> 2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.
> >
> > they want to get the fish out each month?
> 
> Smelt?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking; I got spelt and smelt mixed up.

I should have written, "they want to get the wheat out each month?"

spelt 2 |spelt|
noun
an old kind of wheat with bearded ears and spikelets that each contain
two narrow grains, not widely grown but favored as a health food.

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#58658

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-19 11:00 -0400
Message-ID<0_adncDhI7wPEs_OnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58656
On 2014.04.19, 10:51 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <OrqdncLI54CuHM_OnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>> Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
>>>>> should say 5/4/14.
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.
>>>
>>> they want to get the fish out each month?
>>
>> Smelt?
>
> Yeah, that's what I was thinking; I got spelt and smelt mixed up.
>
> I should have written, "they want to get the wheat out each month?"
>
> spelt 2 |spelt|
> noun
> an old kind of wheat with bearded ears and spikelets that each contain
> two narrow grains, not widely grown but favored as a health food.

Yeah - we all have the internet now.

Spelt (v.) is used here more or less commonly.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58655

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-19 10:12 -0400
Message-ID<53528438$0$22465$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58652
In article <190420140650401795%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <oZCdncGRAtXG4M_OnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014.04.19, 00:29 , Your Name wrote:
> > 
> > > Yep, but that's one of those stupid backwards American dates, so it
> > > should say 5/4/14.
> > 
> > 2014-04-05 would better.  Some prefer the month spelt out.
> 
> they want to get the fish out each month?

No, the grain.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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