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  Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 20:02 -0400
    Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 20:20 -0400
    Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-17 12:57 +1200
      Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-16 20:24 -0700
        Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-16 20:29 -0700
    Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 21:09 -0400
      Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 21:31 -0400
        Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 12:34 -0400
          Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 10:33 +1200
            Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-17 23:39 +0100
              Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 10:50 +1200
                Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-17 23:54 +0100
                  Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:09 -0400
              Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:06 -0400
                Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:09 -0400
                  Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:21 -0400
                    Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-18 00:36 +0100
                      Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 14:08 +1200
                        Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-18 09:45 +0100
                      Re: Writer Needs Help dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-05-24 08:10 +1000
                        Re: Writer Needs Help Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-24 13:04 +0100
                          Re: Writer Needs Help dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-05-25 08:32 +1000
                Re: Writer Needs Help Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-17 16:43 -0700
                  Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 14:09 -0400
                Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:58 +1200
            Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:06 -0400
              Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:08 -0400
                Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 19:25 -0400
                  Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:56 +1200
              Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 13:50 +1200
                Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 14:10 -0400
                  Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 14:26 -0400
                    Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 15:21 -0400
                      Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:37 -0400
                        Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 15:56 -0400
                          Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 16:07 -0400
                            Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:31 -0400
                              Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 19:48 -0400
                                Re: Writer Needs Help Alek Trishan <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 20:44 -0400
                                  Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
                                  Re: Writer Needs Help J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-05-18 23:42 -0400
                  Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-19 09:38 +1200
      Re: Writer Needs Help Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-17 13:43 +1200
        Re: Writer Needs Help nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 22:04 -0400

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#59392 — Writer Needs Help

A writer friend of mine wrote:

"The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
noticed it. I don’t know that that can be fixed. I don’t know that it’s
worth it to try. It’s seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
But it still works. It’s working now, even with the battery popped out.
I called my insurance company to see if they’ll pay for it to be
repaired. Will let you know. That’s my backup. I need a backup!"

And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,

"I think it needs more than a battery. There’s some metal stuff that has
exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I don’t know the
model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldn’t help you.
It’s a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. They’re not made anymore."

Is there any help for her computer?

How does she find the model designation?

Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
that they are marketed by Apple.

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#59393

In article <ll68uc$v65$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:

> A writer friend of mine wrote:
> 
> "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
> noticed it. I don’t know that that can be fixed. I don’t know that it’s
> worth it to try. It’s seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
> But it still works. It’s working now, even with the battery popped out.
> I called my insurance company to see if they’ll pay for it to be
> repaired. Will let you know. That’s my backup. I need a backup!"
> 
> And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,
> 
> "I think it needs more than a battery. There’s some metal stuff that has
> exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I don’t know the
> model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldn’t help you.
> It’s a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. They’re not made anymore."
> 
> Is there any help for her computer?

yes.

first of all, remove the battery and have it disposed of properly. it's
a ticking time bomb. it can explode and potentially make things much,
much worse than they already are. 

also be sure the data is backed up. from what you write, it sounds like
that's the only copy of her data, which is not good. if that's the
case, then get an external drive and back it up asap (without the
battery).

if she lives near an apple store, make an appointment with an apple
genius and bring it in. they'll dispose of the battery and sell her a
new one as well as check out the computer to see if there is anything
else wrong. it's possible that they may swap out the hard drive so be
sure the data is backed up *before* that.

> How does she find the model designation?

under the apple menu, choose about this mac.

however that doesn't really matter since the batteries are the same for
that era of macbook. all she needs is a battery for a 17" macbook pro
and assuming the battery did not cause additional damage, a replacement
battery might be all that's needed. 

on the other hand, 7 years is a long time in computing and it might be
worthwhile to get a new macbook rather than sink money into one that
old, especially if there is more than just the battery that needs
replacing.

> Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
> that they are marketed by Apple.

that's a start.

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#59395

In article <ll68uc$v65$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A writer friend of mine wrote:
> 
> "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
> noticed it. I donít know that that can be fixed. I donít know that itís
> worth it to try. Itís seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
> But it still works. Itís working now, even with the battery popped out.
> I called my insurance company to see if theyíll pay for it to be
> repaired. Will let you know. Thatís my backup. I need a backup!"
> 
> And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,
> 
> "I think it needs more than a battery. Thereís some metal stuff that has
> exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I donít know the
> model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldnít help you.
> Itís a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. Theyíre not made anymore."
> 
> Is there any help for her computer?
> 
> How does she find the model designation?
> 
> Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
> that they are marketed by Apple.

If the battery is removeable (usually a simple lock that can be turned
with a coin), then the battery should be removed immediately. The
laptop will still run while plugged into a wall socket.

If the battery is not removeable, then stop using the laptop.

You can buy replacement batteries, and if it's old enough to have a
removeable battery, then it's easy for anyone to replace ... BUT, it
depends on what that other "metal stuff" is and what other damage may
have been done. Best to take it to an Apple Authorised repair shop and
get them to look at it and give a quote on repair costs. It could be
time for a new computer.

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#59405

On 2014-05-17 00:57:57 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:

> In article <ll68uc$v65$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A writer friend of mine wrote:
>> 
>> "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
>> noticed it. I donít know that that can be fixed. I donít know that itís
>> worth it to try. Itís seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
>> But it still works. Itís working now, even with the battery popped out.
>> I called my insurance company to see if theyíll pay for it to be
>> repaired. Will let you know. Thatís my backup. I need a backup!"
>> 
>> And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,
>> 
>> "I think it needs more than a battery. Thereís some metal stuff that has
>> exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I donít know the
>> model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldnít help you.
>> Itís a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. Theyíre not made anymore."
>> 
>> Is there any help for her computer?
>> 
>> How does she find the model designation?
>> 
>> Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
>> that they are marketed by Apple.
> 
> If the battery is removeable (usually a simple lock that can be turned
> with a coin), then the battery should be removed immediately. The
> laptop will still run while plugged into a wall socket.
> 
> If the battery is not removeable, then stop using the laptop.

He says it is an MBP 17'' I have one of those.
There are two MBP categories those "Pre-Unibody" units with model 
numbers A1151, A1212, A1229 & A1261. Those have a user serviceable 
battery, and they can be had at a reasonable price from  vendors such 
as OWC.
Then there are the Uni-body MBPs. With those the battery is not user 
serviceable/replaceable (at least not without iFixit skills).

Here is the iFixit Uni-Body MBP 17'' battery replacement guide.
< 
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+17-Inch+Unibody+Battery+Replacement/3403 
>

I also have a G4 PowerBook Pro 17'' which has a user serviceable 
battery which is simple to swap out.

> You can buy replacement batteries, and if it's old enough to have a
> removeable battery, then it's easy for anyone to replace ... BUT, it
> depends on what that other "metal stuff" is and what other damage may
> have been done. Best to take it to an Apple Authorised repair shop and
> get them to look at it and give a quote on repair costs. It could be
> time for a new computer.

I would suggest that if the


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#59406

On 2014-05-17 03:24:06 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

> On 2014-05-17 00:57:57 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:
> 
>> In article <ll68uc$v65$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
>> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A writer friend of mine wrote:
>>> 
>>> "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
>>> noticed it. I donít know that that can be fixed. I donít know that itís
>>> worth it to try. Itís seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
>>> But it still works. Itís working now, even with the battery popped out.
>>> I called my insurance company to see if theyíll pay for it to be
>>> repaired. Will let you know. Thatís my backup. I need a backup!"
>>> 
>>> And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,
>>> 
>>> "I think it needs more than a battery. Thereís some metal stuff that has
>>> exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I donít know the
>>> model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldnít help you.
>>> Itís a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. Theyíre not made anymore."
>>> 
>>> Is there any help for her computer?
>>> 
>>> How does she find the model designation?
>>> 
>>> Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
>>> that they are marketed by Apple.
>> 
>> If the battery is removeable (usually a simple lock that can be turned
>> with a coin), then the battery should be removed immediately. The
>> laptop will still run while plugged into a wall socket.
>> 
>> If the battery is not removeable, then stop using the laptop.
> 
> He says it is an MBP 17'' I have one of those.
> There are two MBP categories those "Pre-Unibody" units with model 
> numbers A1151, A1212, A1229 & A1261. Those have a user serviceable 
> battery, and they can be had at a reasonable price from  vendors such 
> as OWC.
> Then there are the Uni-body MBPs. With those the battery is not user 
> serviceable/replaceable (at least not without iFixit skills).
> 
> Here is the iFixit Uni-Body MBP 17'' battery replacement guide.
> < 
> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+17-Inch+Unibody+Battery+Replacement/3403


I 
> 
> also have a G4 PowerBook Pro 17'' which has a user serviceable battery 
> which is simple to swap out.
> 
>> You can buy replacement batteries, and if it's old enough to have a
>> removeable battery, then it's easy for anyone to replace ... BUT, it
>> depends on what that other "metal stuff" is and what other damage may
>> have been done. Best to take it to an Apple Authorised repair shop and
>> get them to look at it and give a quote on repair costs. It could be
>> time for a new computer.
> 
> I would suggest that if the

I meant to complete this with:
If it is beyond practical repair by an authorized Apple store/repair 
facility. Then do what can be done to recover the data and part the 
carcass out.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#59396

Alek Trishan has written on 5/16/2014 8:02 PM:
> A writer friend of mine wrote:
> 
> "The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer. I just
> noticed it. I don’t know that that can be fixed. I don’t know that it’s
> worth it to try. It’s seven years old. Maybe I should just let it go.
> But it still works. It’s working now, even with the battery popped out.
> I called my insurance company to see if they’ll pay for it to be
> repaired. Will let you know. That’s my backup. I need a backup!"
> 
> And then, when I asked her about replacing the battery, she wrote,
> 
> "I think it needs more than a battery. There’s some metal stuff that has
> exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded. I don’t know the
> model number. I only know the serial number, which wouldn’t help you.
> It’s a MacBook Pro, 17 inch. They’re not made anymore."
> 
> Is there any help for her computer?
> 
> How does she find the model designation?
> 
> Disclaimer: the only thing I personally know about Macs in particular is
> that they are marketed by Apple.
> 

I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display.

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#59399

In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:

> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display.

then she already has the replacement. 

why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15" mbp-retina?

copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
the rest of it on ebay.

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#59429

nospam has written on 5/16/2014 9:31 PM:
> In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display.
> 
> then she already has the replacement. 
> 
> why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15" mbp-retina?
> 
> copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
> the rest of it on ebay.
> 

The 17" is a backup for the 15". She's had hardware problems with the
15" that required her not having it for several days at a time.

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#59441

In article <ll833l$t8e$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> nospam has written on 5/16/2014 9:31 PM:
> > In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina
> >> display.
> > 
> > then she already has the replacement. 
> > 
> > why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15" mbp-retina?
> > 
> > copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
> > the rest of it on ebay.
> 
> The 17" is a backup for the 15". She's had hardware problems with the
> 15" that required her not having it for several days at a time.

Well, she could be without either since you shouldn't be using the 17"
with the battery still in it and it really needs to be taken in for a
check and repair (which are may not be cost-effective to do).

I have an idiot relation in England who barely uses their desktop
computer, but bought a second one as a "backup". That second computer
has never been even been taken out of its box! That was a few years
ago, so that second one is now completely out-of-date and an utter
waste of money.  :-\

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#59442

In article <180520141033484010%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <ll833l$t8e$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > nospam has written on 5/16/2014 9:31 PM:
> > > In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina
> > >> display.
> > > 
> > > then she already has the replacement. 
> > > 
> > > why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15" mbp-retina?
> > > 
> > > copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
> > > the rest of it on ebay.
> > 
> > The 17" is a backup for the 15". She's had hardware problems with the
> > 15" that required her not having it for several days at a time.
> 
> Well, she could be without either since you shouldn't be using the 17"
> with the battery still in it and it really needs to be taken in for a
> check and repair (which are may not be cost-effective to do).
> 
> I have an idiot relation in England who barely uses their desktop
> computer, but bought a second one as a "backup". That second computer
> has never been even been taken out of its box! That was a few years
> ago, so that second one is now completely out-of-date and an utter
> waste of money.  :-\

Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
backup? And if not, why not?

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#59443

In article <170520142339004632%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <180520141033484010%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <ll833l$t8e$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > nospam has written on 5/16/2014 9:31 PM:
> > > > In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina
> > > >> display.
> > > > 
> > > > then she already has the replacement. 
> > > > 
> > > > why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15" mbp-retina?
> > > > 
> > > > copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
> > > > the rest of it on ebay.
> > > 
> > > The 17" is a backup for the 15". She's had hardware problems with the
> > > 15" that required her not having it for several days at a time.
> > 
> > Well, she could be without either since you shouldn't be using the 17"
> > with the battery still in it and it really needs to be taken in for a
> > check and repair (which are may not be cost-effective to do).
> <snip>
> 
> Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> backup? And if not, why not?

The "backup" in their case is ability to continue working on the second
computer while the first is in for repairs ... not the backup of the
files themselves.

If it's "urgent" work-related, then they may be able to have a loan
computer from the repair shop while their computer is being fixed -
sometimes it's free, sometimes it's an extra cost. I did that when my
original 17" Apple display died, although the loan display was only
15".

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#59444

In article <180520141050012425%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <170520142339004632%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <180520141033484010%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> > <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > In article <ll833l$t8e$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > nospam has written on 5/16/2014 9:31 PM:
> > > > > In article <ll6cse$ij4$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I forgot to mention that she also has a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina
> > > > >> display.
> > > > > 
> > > > > then she already has the replacement. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > why is she still using a 7 year old macbook if she has a 15"
> > > > > mbp-retina?
> > > > > 
> > > > > copy the data off the 17" and safely dispose of the battery, then sell
> > > > > the rest of it on ebay.
> > > > 
> > > > The 17" is a backup for the 15". She's had hardware problems with the
> > > > 15" that required her not having it for several days at a time.
> > > 
> > > Well, she could be without either since you shouldn't be using the 17"
> > > with the battery still in it and it really needs to be taken in for a
> > > check and repair (which are may not be cost-effective to do).
> > <snip>
> > 
> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> > backup? And if not, why not?
> 
> The "backup" in their case is ability to continue working on the second
> computer while the first is in for repairs ... not the backup of the
> files themselves.

Eeeeyesss, I take the point, but there is still the point about the
disk in the 15", sitting next to a battery that sounds as if it's about
to go critical.

-- 
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee

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#59449

Tim Streater has written on 5/17/2014 6:54 PM:
>> 
>> The "backup" in their case is ability to continue working on the second
>> computer while the first is in for repairs ... not the backup of the
>> files themselves.
> 
> Eeeeyesss, I take the point, but there is still the point about the
> disk in the 15", sitting next to a battery that sounds as if it's about
> to go critical.
> 

"The battery just swelled up and popped out of my old computer...There
ís some metal stuff that has
exploded in it. More than the battery has exploded."

Sounds like it already went critical!

The machine with the exploded battery is the 17" one.

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#59446

Tim Streater has written on 5/17/2014 6:39 PM:
> 
> Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> backup? And if not, why not?

Time Machine????

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#59448

In article <ll8q21$3et$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> > backup? And if not, why not?
> 
> Time Machine????

apple's automatic backup utility that's built into mac os.

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#59450

nospam has written on 5/17/2014 7:09 PM:
> In article <ll8q21$3et$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
>> > backup? And if not, why not?
>> 
>> Time Machine????
> 
> apple's automatic backup utility that's built into mac os.
> 

Ah. Thanks.

She has a 3TB hard drive that she uses for backups. I wonder why.

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#59452

In article <ll8qtv$9k4$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
<alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:

> nospam has written on 5/17/2014 7:09 PM:
> > In article <ll8q21$3et$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> >> > backup? And if not, why not?
> >> 
> >> Time Machine????
> > 
> > apple's automatic backup utility that's built into mac os.
> > 
> 
> Ah. Thanks.
> 
> She has a 3TB hard drive that she uses for backups. I wonder why.

Why do you wonder why? Doing backups with TM is so easy, as is
restoring files when you need to, that anyone *not* doing it has to be
a loony.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#59460

In article <180520140036140635%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <ll8qtv$9k4$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > nospam has written on 5/17/2014 7:09 PM:
> > > In article <ll8q21$3et$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> > >> > backup? And if not, why not?
> > >> 
> > >> Time Machine????
> > > 
> > > apple's automatic backup utility that's built into mac os.
> > 
> > Ah. Thanks.
> > 
> > She has a 3TB hard drive that she uses for backups. I wonder why.
> 
> Why do you wonder why? Doing backups with TM is so easy, as is
> restoring files when you need to, that anyone *not* doing it has to be
> a loony.

Not necessarily. Time Machine is one tool, but isn't be the best option
for everyone. Someone might be backing up to "cloud" systems instead,
or using another piece of software / manually.

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#59478

In article <180520141408366544%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <180520140036140635%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <ll8qtv$9k4$1@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > nospam has written on 5/17/2014 7:09 PM:
> > > > In article <ll8q21$3et$2@dont-email.me>, Alek Trishan
> > > > <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Does the OP's friend have an external drive they use for Time Machine
> > > >> > backup? And if not, why not?
> > > >> 
> > > >> Time Machine????
> > > > 
> > > > apple's automatic backup utility that's built into mac os.
> > > 
> > > Ah. Thanks.
> > > 
> > > She has a 3TB hard drive that she uses for backups. I wonder why.
> > 
> > Why do you wonder why? Doing backups with TM is so easy, as is
> > restoring files when you need to, that anyone *not* doing it has to be
> > a loony.
> 
> Not necessarily. Time Machine is one tool, but isn't be the best option
> for everyone. Someone might be backing up to "cloud" systems instead,
> or using another piece of software / manually.

Yes. Sorry. I suppose what I meant is that if you're doing nothing
(usually because the issue doesn't seem to occur to people), then TM
plus an external drive is a quick and easy way out which doesn't
require much in the way of planning etc.

As long as folk don't view backup as archiving. For my valuable stuff,
I let TM have it, plus a manual copy onto SWMBO's Mini, a copy onto two
USB sticks, and into Dropbox.

-- 
"Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of
those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf

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#59660

In article <180520140036140635%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> Doing backups with TM is so easy, as is
> restoring files when you need to, that anyone *not* doing it has to be
> a loony.

That's me folks! (Supply Looney Tunes tune)

-- 
dorayme

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