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  HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-16 15:54 +0000
    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 12:00 -0400
    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-16 17:27 -0700
      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 20:33 -0400
        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-16 21:21 -0700
          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 04:41 +0000
          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 05:52 -0700
            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-17 08:18 -0700
              Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 10:01 -0700
                Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-17 10:44 -0700
                  Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 11:48 -0700
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-17 17:47 -0700
                      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 05:19 -0700
              Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 10:04 -0700
            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-17 17:44 +0100
              Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 10:03 -0700
                Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-17 18:34 +0100
                  Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-18 23:37 +1200
          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-17 17:41 +0000
      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-17 08:20 +0100
    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-16 23:44 -0400
      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 04:42 +0000
        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-16 22:22 -0700
          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-17 01:29 -0400
            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-17 21:10 +1200
              Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 17:30 +0000
                Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-17 18:51 +0100
                  Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-04-17 14:31 -0400
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 11:49 -0700
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-17 22:13 +0100
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-17 17:40 -0700
                      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 05:46 -0700
                  Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-18 08:35 +1200
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 22:35 +0000
                      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-17 17:27 -0700
                        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-17 17:32 -0700
                        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-18 13:30 +1200
                          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-18 23:21 +1200
                      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-17 17:49 -0700
                        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-18 01:23 +0000
                          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-18 15:34 +1200
                            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-18 23:27 +1200
                              Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-19 03:22 +0000
                                Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-19 17:08 +1200
                            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 05:21 -0700
                            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-19 03:21 +0000
                  Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 22:33 +0000
                    Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-18 12:09 +1200
                      Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-18 23:21 +1200
                        Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-18 19:28 -0400
                          Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-19 16:54 +1200
                            Re: HP USB Wireless Mouse not recognized by OSX 10.10.3 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-19 15:55 +0000

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#73319

On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not recognize
> the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed in one of the USB
> 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings that the mouse uses, as
> for some reason, the scroll wheel is running "backwards" in relation to
> the way it runs on my Linux computers.
>
When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change to the 
Mouse window?

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#73324

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:

> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not recognize
>> the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed in one of the
>> USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings that the mouse
>> uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is running "backwards" in
>> relation to the way it runs on my Linux computers.
>>
> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change to the
> Mouse window?

Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the HP 
mouse, even though it is working.

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#73326

In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
> 
> > On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
> >> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
> >> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not recognize
> >> the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed in one of the
> >> USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings that the mouse
> >> uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is running "backwards" in
> >> relation to the way it runs on my Linux computers.
> >>
> > When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change to the
> > Mouse window?
> 
> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the HP 
> mouse, even though it is working.

If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as the
computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.

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#73327

On 4/17/15 1:22 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
>>>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
>>>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not recognize
>>>> the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed in one of the
>>>> USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings that the mouse
>>>> uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is running "backwards" in
>>>> relation to the way it runs on my Linux computers.
>>>>
>>> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change to the
>>> Mouse window?
>>
>> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the HP
>> mouse, even though it is working.
>
> If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as the
> computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.
>
Sounds like he's all set.  Just unclick the scroll direction box near 
the top of the window, in the middle. (I've decided I like "natural.")

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#73330

J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/17/15 1:22 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
> >>>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
> >>>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not recognize
> >>>> the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed in one of the
> >>>> USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings that the mouse
> >>>> uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is running "backwards" in
> >>>> relation to the way it runs on my Linux computers.
> >>>>
> >>> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change to the
> >>> Mouse window?
> >>
> >> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the HP
> >> mouse, even though it is working.
> >
> > If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as the
> > computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.
> >
> Sounds like he's all set.  Just unclick the scroll direction box near
> the top of the window, in the middle. (I've decided I like "natural.")

I'm confused. Did a problem actually ever exist?
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#73352

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:10:08 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

> J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/17/15 1:22 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> > In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
>> > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
>> >>>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
>> >>>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not
>> >>>> recognize the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed
>> >>>> in one of the USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings
>> >>>> that the mouse uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is
>> >>>> running "backwards" in relation to the way it runs on my Linux
>> >>>> computers.
>> >>>>
>> >>> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change
>> >>> to the Mouse window?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the
>> >> HP mouse, even though it is working.
>> >
>> > If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as
>> > the computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.
>> >
>> Sounds like he's all set.  Just unclick the scroll direction box near
>> the top of the window, in the middle. (I've decided I like "natural.")
> 
> I'm confused. Did a problem actually ever exist?

In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down, and 
the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned the wheel 
towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as pointed out to me 
by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.

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#73357

In article <mgrfvs$d1f$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:10:08 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
>> J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/17/15 1:22 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> > In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
>>> > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
>>> >>>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
>>> >>>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not
>>> >>>> recognize the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed
>>> >>>> in one of the USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings
>>> >>>> that the mouse uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is
>>> >>>> running "backwards" in relation to the way it runs on my Linux
>>> >>>> computers.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change
>>> >>> to the Mouse window?
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the
>>> >> HP mouse, even though it is working.
>>> >
>>> > If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as
>>> > the computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.
>>> >
>>> Sounds like he's all set.  Just unclick the scroll direction box near
>>> the top of the window, in the middle. (I've decided I like "natural.")
>> 
>> I'm confused. Did a problem actually ever exist?
>
>In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down, and 
>the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned the wheel 
>towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as pointed out to me 
>by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.

Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.

I rarely use the scrollbar, these days, and I also realised that for a
very long time I haven't needed the arrows that we used to have at the
ends of scroll bars, either.

-- 
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee

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#73361

In article <170420151851417117%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.

In the old days we kissed mohammed's ass, these days we kiss his dick ...

-- 

Fine then, I'm drinking coffee and rolling cigarettes and looking 
out at the hot baked street and a lady just walked by wiggling it 
in tight white pants, and we are not dead yet.

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#73364

On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:31:13 PM UTC-4, Wilbur Eleven wrote:
> In article <170420151851417117%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> > previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> > the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> > the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> 
> In the old days we kissed mohammed's ass, these days we kiss his dick ...
> 

 LOL!

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#73369

In article <mgrjhc$hd6$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Wilbur Eleven
<wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> wrote:

>In article <170420151851417117%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
>
>In the old days we kissed mohammed's ass ...

Another one with a donkey fixation. Or perhaps it's just a usenet bot.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#73382

In article <mgrjhc$hd6$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Wilbur Eleven
<wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> wrote:

> In article <170420151851417117%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> > previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> > the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> > the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> 
> In the old days we kissed mohammed's ass, these days we kiss his dick ...

In the old days, Christians killed in Jesus' name; these days, some of
them still do.

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#73409

On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-4, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <mgrjhc$hd6$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Wilbur Eleven
> <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> wrote:
> 
> > In article <170420151851417117%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> > > previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> > > the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> > > the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> > 
> > In the old days we kissed mohammed's ass, these days we kiss his dick ...
> 
> In the old days, Christians killed in Jesus' name; these days, some of
> them still do.

So you condone all the killing that the Islamists do?

You really are a dumb cunt piece of shit.

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#73368

Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <mgrfvs$d1f$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:10:08 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> >
> >> J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 4/17/15 1:22 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>> > In article <mgq2ur$e48$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> >>> > <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:44:48 -0400, J Burns wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> On 4/16/15 11:54 AM, sctvguy1 wrote:
> >>> >>>> Even though my HP wireless USB mouse works, when I go to System
> >>> >>>> Preferences and go to "Mouse", it will just sit there and not
> >>> >>>> recognize the mouse.  The mouse has a USB dongle that is installed
> >>> >>>> in one of the USB 2.0 slots.  I was trying to adjust the settings
> >>> >>>> that the mouse uses, as for some reason, the scroll wheel is
> >>> >>>> running "backwards" in relation to the way it runs on my Linux
> >>> >>>> computers.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>> When you click "Mouse," does the System Preferences window change
> >>> >>> to the Mouse window?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yes, but when i click "Bluetooth" it just spins and does not see the
> >>> >> HP mouse, even though it is working.
> >>> >
> >>> > If it is using a USB dongle, it is not a Bluetooth mouse so far as
> >>> > the computer is concerned; it is a USB mouse to the computer.
> >>> >
> >>> Sounds like he's all set.  Just unclick the scroll direction box near
> >>> the top of the window, in the middle. (I've decided I like "natural.")
> >> 
> >> I'm confused. Did a problem actually ever exist?
> >
> >In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down, and
> >the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned the wheel
> >towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as pointed out to me
> >by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
> 
> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.

Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#73373

On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:35:43 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:


>> >In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down,
>> >and the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned
>> >the wheel towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as
>> >pointed out to me by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
>> 
>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> 
> Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.

I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads, 
one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.

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#73380

On 2015-04-17 22:35:40 +0000, sctvguy1 said:

> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:35:43 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down,
>>>> and the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned
>>>> the wheel towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as
>>>> pointed out to me by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
>>> 
>>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
>>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
>>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
>>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
>> 
>> Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.
> 
> I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads,
> one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.

I use an MS Trackball Optical and a Wacom Intuos Tablet for my desktop 
Mac. For my MBP I have a very nice Kensington BT mouse.
<https://db.tt/1ideLY1Y>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#73381

On 2015-04-18 00:27:05 +0000, Savageduck said:

> On 2015-04-17 22:35:40 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> 
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:35:43 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>>> In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down,
>>>>> and the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned
>>>>> the wheel towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as
>>>>> pointed out to me by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
>>>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
>>>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
>>>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
>>> 
>>> Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.
>> 
>> I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads,
>> one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.
> 
> I use an MS Trackball Optical and a Wacom Intuos Tablet for my desktop 
> Mac. For my MBP I have a very nice Kensington BT mouse.
> <https://WRONGURL>

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<https://db.tt/tzXxOTfX>


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Savageduck

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#73389

In article <2015041717270551680-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-17 22:35:40 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:35:43 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down,
> >>>> and the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned
> >>>> the wheel towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as
> >>>> pointed out to me by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
> >>> 
> >>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> >>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> >>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> >>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> >> 
> >> Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.
> > 
> > I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads,
> > one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.
> 
> I use an MS Trackball Optical and a Wacom Intuos Tablet for my desktop 
> Mac. For my MBP I have a very nice Kensington BT mouse.
> <https://db.tt/1ideLY1Y>

I'm using a wired ADB Mouse II with my PowerMac G3 (one button, no
silly scrollball/wheel) and there's an old Logitech (I think) wired USB
Windoze mouse attached to our iBook G4 - partly because we find
trackpads to be hopeless and partly because this particular trackpad is
wearing out anyway.

By default, unless they prefer otherwise, I always turn off the second
button on Apple mice when installing computers for people, and
especially turn off the silly "squeeze me" button on that particular
mouse model. I also turn off most, if not all, the touch controls on
the current Apple-shipped mouse.

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#73403

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <2015041717270551680-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-04-17 22:35:40 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:35:43 +1200, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In Linux, when I turned the wheel towards me, the page scrolled down,
> > >>>> and the opposite.  In my iMac, the opposite happened, when I turned
> > >>>> the wheel towards me the page went up.  By unticking the box, as
> > >>>> pointed out to me by some helpful people, this is now not a problem.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Well, it never was a problem, in fact. What's happened is that whereas
> > >>> previously you scrolled the *scrollbar*, these days you are scrolling
> > >>> the window *content*. Once you appreciate that, it becomes clear that
> > >>> the change that Apple has made to the default makes sense.
> > >> 
> > >> Of course that only makes sense (to most) with a touch input.
> > > 
> > > I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads,
> > > one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.
> > 
> > I use an MS Trackball Optical and a Wacom Intuos Tablet for my desktop
> > Mac. For my MBP I have a very nice Kensington BT mouse.
> > <https://db.tt/1ideLY1Y>
> 
> I'm using a wired ADB Mouse II with my PowerMac G3 (one button, no
> silly scrollball/wheel) and there's an old Logitech (I think) wired USB
> Windoze mouse attached to our iBook G4 - partly because we find
> trackpads to be hopeless and partly because this particular trackpad is
> wearing out anyway.
> 
> By default, unless they prefer otherwise, I always turn off the second
> button on Apple mice when installing computers for people, and
> especially turn off the silly "squeeze me" button on that particular
> mouse model. I also turn off most, if not all, the touch controls on
> the current Apple-shipped mouse.

Right-clicking seems an odd thing to turn off nowadays. Why hobble
oneself by making one hold down control every time one needs a
contextual menu, not to mention actual right click for some apps and
games?
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#73384

In article <mgs1rs$l0q$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two Thinkpads, 
> one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.

I bought an Apple touchpad about three years ago, and figured that if I
didn't like it, I'd return it during the two-week return period.  I'm
still using it.

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#73386

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:49:15 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In article <mgs1rs$l0q$2@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> I hate touchpads, I do not use them on any of my laptops, two
>> Thinkpads,
>> one HP 6515b, and an Acer netbook.  I have always used a mouse.
> 
> I bought an Apple touchpad about three years ago, and figured that if I
> didn't like it, I'd return it during the two-week return period.  I'm
> still using it.

Since using the original IBM mouse in the 80's, I am still a "mouse" 
guy!  I am sick of "finger" related pads, both on computers and phones.

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