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  Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-14 21:36 +1000
    Re: Label colouring nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-14 09:34 -0400
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:21 +1000
    Re: Label colouring Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2012-04-14 14:45 +0100
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:38 +1000
    Re: Label colouring Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-14 07:48 -0700
    Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-14 11:53 -0400
      Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-14 08:55 -0700
        Re: Label colouring "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-15 19:45 +0000
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:42 +1000
      Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-16 18:57 +1200
        Re: Label colouring George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-16 10:09 -0500
        Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-16 15:28 +0000
          Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-16 16:48 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-16 17:11 -0400
              Re: Label colouring Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-16 18:31 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 15:33 -0700
                  Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-16 22:57 +0000
            Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 14:38 -0700
              Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-17 10:35 +1200
                Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 15:47 -0700
            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-17 19:38 +0200
              Re: Label colouring HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-18 09:10 +1200
                Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-18 10:02 +1000
                Re: Label colouring Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-04-18 15:29 -0700
              Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-17 18:22 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-18 09:12 +0200
                  Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 02:24 +1200
        Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-16 11:31 -0400
          Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-16 19:36 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 16:48 -0700
            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-18 09:19 +0200
              Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 02:24 +1200
                Re: Label colouring Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 16:27 +0100
                  Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 08:37 -0700
                    Re: Label colouring "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-04-18 15:19 -0400
                      Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 16:44 -0700
                        Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-18 23:48 +0000
                          Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 17:19 -0700
                            Re: Label colouring JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-18 21:42 -0400
                              Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-19 17:24 +0200
                  Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-18 22:53 -0400
                    Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 19:58 -0700
                      Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-19 03:37 +0000
                        Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-20 16:50 +0200
                          Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-20 16:28 +0000
                            Re: Label colouring JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-20 15:14 -0400
                            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-21 14:12 +0200
                      Re: Label colouring Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2012-04-20 09:42 -0700
                        Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-24 15:42 -0400
                    Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 15:57 +1200
                      Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-19 17:18 +0200
                        Re: Label colouring TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2012-04-19 13:54 -0500
                          Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-20 08:55 +1000
                          Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-20 16:49 +0200
                    Re: Label colouring Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 14:22 +0100
                      Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-20 03:49 +1200
                        Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-19 16:13 -0400
                      Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 13:48 -0400
                        Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-19 16:22 -0400
                          Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-20 12:40 -0400
                            Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-20 17:47 +0000
                              Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-21 11:45 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 13:52 -0400
              Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-19 16:28 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 17:12 -0400
                  Re: Label colouring nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-19 15:08 -0700
        Re: Label colouring Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-16 09:15 -0700
          Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-17 10:35 +1200
          Re: Label colouring paris2venice@gmail.com - 2012-04-17 15:31 -0700

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#23787 — Label colouring

Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to 
file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this. 
First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file 
or folder name coloured would do fine.

Just a small niggle, no big deal.

-- 
dorayme

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#23788

In article <dorayme-09DFBE.21361814042012@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to 
> file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this. 
> First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file 
> or folder name coloured would do fine.

it's hideous and can be confused with highlighting in some cases.

it was *much* better before os x, when just the text & icon was
coloured, not the whole rectangle.

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#23809

In article <140420120934317282%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-09DFBE.21361814042012@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to 
> > file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this. 
> > First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> > and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> > and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> > extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file 
> > or folder name coloured would do fine.
> 
> it's hideous and can be confused with highlighting in some cases.
> 
> it was *much* better before os x, when just the text & icon was
> coloured, not the whole rectangle.

I have clean forgotten how it was, thanks for reminding me! Maybe I 
unconsciously registered (and recoiled from) the change. Don't much 
use labelling, I tend to make folders instead, but it is useful now 
and then.

-- 
dorayme

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#23789

dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to
> file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this.
> First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file
> or folder name coloured would do fine.
> 
> Just a small niggle, no big deal.


I guess each to his own because I really love it, and use label colours
a lot, both in list view and icon view on the desktop. I also love the
rounded effects :)

No one can please everyone :)

Howard

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#23810

In article <1kijqa2.1644ouk18l6rm4N%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

> dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to
> > file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this.
> > First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> > and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> > and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> > extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file
> > or folder name coloured would do fine.
> > 
> > Just a small niggle, no big deal.
> 
> 
> I guess each to his own because I really love it, and use label colours
> a lot, both in list view and icon view on the desktop. I also love the
> rounded effects :)
> 
> No one can please everyone :)


Very true!

There are many sorts of disagreements among people, some are not worth 
arguing about (at least for the purpose of achieving a productive 
outcome), others are. Simple matters of taste are not usually amenable 
to productive discussion. Other sorts can be more objective. I have no 
real idea if label colour *shaping* has any objective issues that 
would practically ever be settled, beyond opinion polling sort of 
facts. 

If it turned out that rectangular coloured backing, and shrink-fitting 
the name of a file or folder, or some other arrangement tended to make 
people make less mistakes, raised production etc. then, of course, we 
would have an amenably objective objective element.

-- 
dorayme

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#23794

In article <dorayme-09DFBE.21361814042012@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to 
> file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this. 
> First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file 
> or folder name coloured would do fine.
> 
> Just a small niggle, no big deal.

Tell Apple.

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E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
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JR

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#23801

In article <dorayme-09DFBE.21361814042012@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Always looked rather ugly to me how the label colouring is applied to 
> file and folder names. In column view, there are two aspects to this. 
> First, there is no need for *rounded* rectangles. It looks over-done 
> and jarring among fairly square file and folder icons and triangles, 
> and the other thing is it seems unnecessary for the label colour to 
> extend all the way across: more is less and just the text of the file 
> or folder name coloured would do fine.
> 
> Just a small niggle, no big deal.

Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much 
more acceptable.  :-D

(Hey, it's Saturday morning and it's raining.)

-- 
I screwed you ALL!
But thanks for lettin' me 
blame it on the black guy.
          --George W. Bush

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#23804

In article <fmoore-C85AB7.11531814042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> (Hey, it's Saturday morning

Indeed it is.

> and it's raining.)

No, it's not.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#23861

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:55:33 UTC, Michelle Steiner 
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-C85AB7.11531814042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > (Hey, it's Saturday morning
> 
> Indeed it is.
> 
> > and it's raining.)
> 
> No, it's not.
 
I wish it would.

-- 
John Varela

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#23811

In article <fmoore-C85AB7.11531814042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-09DFBE.21361814042012@news.albasani.net>,
>  dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > ...label colouring...
> 
> Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much 
> more acceptable.  :-D
> 
 
Well, I salute your good old yanky heart!

-- 
dorayme

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#23878

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much
> more acceptable.  :-D

I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#23891

On 4/16/12 1:57 AM, in article
1kinrar.jh0swuoam1dsN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz, "Jamie Kahn Genet"
<jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
>> Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much
>> more acceptable.  :-D
> 
> I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*

'Dumbing down' is a product of the deficient US educational system.

"It's OK Billy, you can speel them words inawayze you might want."

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#23892

In article <1kinrar.jh0swuoam1dsN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much
>> more acceptable.  :-D
>
>I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
>-- 
>If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

One person's "dumbing down" is another person's "eliminating unnecessary
vowels." :-)


Patty

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#23905

Jamie Kahn Genet:
> >I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*

/Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
French was the language of the English royal court.

The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .

Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who
is influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
on with life.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23907

In article <160420121648550785%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet:
> > >I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
> 
> /Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
> French was the language of the English royal court.
> 
> The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
> two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .
> 
> Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who
> is influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> on with life.

As George Bernard Shaw said:

[we are] ³Two peoples separated by a common language²

-- 
PRAY, v.  To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

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#23925

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:11:08 -0400, Tom Stiller wrote
(in article <tom_stiller-2428EB.17110816042012@news.individual.net>):

> In article <160420121648550785%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Jamie Kahn Genet:
>>>> I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
>> 
>> /Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
>> French was the language of the English royal court.
>> 
>> The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
>> two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .
>> 
>> Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
>> influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who
>> is influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
>> words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
>> on with life.
> 
> As George Bernard Shaw said:
> 
> [we are] ³Two peoples separated by a common language²
> 
> 

And GBS even came up with an alternate, phonetic alphabet that I learned when 
I was in high school, much to the chagrin of my teachers. I loved it. I even 
found a copy of "Androcles and the Lion" in the Shavian alphabet.

-- 
Joe Dee
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
   -- WH Auden

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#23926

In article <0001HW.CBB21601009D7127B030A9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> And GBS even came up with an alternate, phonetic alphabet that I learned 
> when I was in high school, much to the chagrin of my teachers. I loved 
> it. I even found a copy of "Androcles and the Lion" in the Shavian 
> alphabet.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet>

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#23930

In article <michelle-C2C44E.15332216042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner  <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <0001HW.CBB21601009D7127B030A9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And GBS even came up with an alternate, phonetic alphabet that I learned 
>> when I was in high school, much to the chagrin of my teachers. 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet>

I see your George Bernard Shaw and raise you a Mark Twain. Well, it
was probably actually written by someone else, but he had weighed in 
on the subject of simplifying the English alphabet, so here's the
fallout from that:

http://design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Twain_english.html


Patty

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#23909

In article <160420121648550785%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:

> Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is 
> influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is 
> influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two 
> words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get 
> on with life.

You're making sense.  This is usenet, and making sense is not allowed.  
Give yourself twenty lashes with a wet noodle.

-- Michelle

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#23928

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <160420121648550785%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> 
> > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is 
> > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is
> > influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> > words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> > on with life.
> 
> You're making sense.  This is usenet, and making sense is not allowed.
> Give yourself twenty lashes with a wet noodle.
> 
> -- Michelle

Wet noodle lashing, eh lass? I guess it takes all types ;-)
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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