Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #75535 > unrolled thread

cd dvd burn problems on imac

Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.system

Contents

  cd dvd burn problems on imac Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-13 11:12 -0700
    Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-05-13 13:05 -0700
      Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-05-13 13:26 -0700
        Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-05-14 09:14 +1200
          Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac ggrandish@gmail.com - 2015-05-13 16:02 -0700
          Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-14 11:14 -0700
            Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-05-15 08:59 +1200
        Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-14 11:12 -0700
          Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-05-14 11:24 -0700
    Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-05-13 13:43 -0700
    Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-13 19:47 -0400
      Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-14 11:09 -0700
        Re: cd dvd burn problems on imac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-15 16:26 -0400

#75535 — cd dvd burn problems on imac

it took a long time to figure this out
if you have an imac take note

lots of problems when burning cds and dvds
audio cds were the biggest problem as the burned discs would have
problems midway into the cd

dvds also had problems some would just not read

turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
of the disc

this was really puzzling and made the more so due to the problem
not always rearing its ugly head

some cd players just had a little problem and went right along
but older players with less forgiving hard/firm ware just would
not continue

also still checking the itunes library as cds may have had scratches
introduced when importing them

had to go back and check data dvds and that was a PITA for someone










 

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#75548

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> it took a long time to figure this out
> if you have an imac take note
> 
> lots of problems when burning cds and dvds
> audio cds were the biggest problem as the burned discs would have
> problems midway into the cd
> 
> dvds also had problems some would just not read
> 
> turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
> deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
> with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
> of the disc
> 
> this was really puzzling and made the more so due to the problem
> not always rearing its ugly head
> 
> some cd players just had a little problem and went right along
> but older players with less forgiving hard/firm ware just would
> not continue
> 
> also still checking the itunes library as cds may have had scratches
> introduced when importing them
> 
> had to go back and check data dvds and that was a PITA for someone


Apple and Apple products; iShit.

"Always broke" rules with Apple.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75554

On 2015-05-13 20:05:01 +0000, awoolmeyer@gmail.com said:

> On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
>> it took a long time to figure this out
>> if you have an imac take note
>> 
>> lots of problems when burning cds and dvds
>> audio cds were the biggest problem as the burned discs would have
>> problems midway into the cd
>> 
>> dvds also had problems some would just not read
>> 
>> turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
>> deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
>> with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
>> of the disc
>> 
>> this was really puzzling and made the more so due to the problem
>> not always rearing its ugly head
>> 
>> some cd players just had a little problem and went right along
>> but older players with less forgiving hard/firm ware just would
>> not continue
>> 
>> also still checking the itunes library as cds may have had scratches
>> introduced when importing them
>> 
>> had to go back and check data dvds and that was a PITA for someone
> 
> 
> Apple and Apple products; iShit.
> 
> "Always broke" rules with Apple.

LOL

I've seen lots and lots of slot-loading aluminum iMacs. On precisely 
none of them has the slot ever been anything but perfectly smooth.

:-)

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75562

In article <mj0c1t$nuh$2@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<email@domain.com> wrote:
> On 2015-05-13 20:05:01 +0000, awoolmeyer@gmail.com said:
> > On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> it took a long time to figure this out
> >> if you have an imac take note
> >> 
> >> lots of problems when burning cds and dvds
> >> audio cds were the biggest problem as the burned discs would have
> >> problems midway into the cd
> >> 
> >> dvds also had problems some would just not read
> >> 
> >> turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
> >> deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
> >> with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
> >> of the disc
> >> 
> >> this was really puzzling and made the more so due to the problem
> >> not always rearing its ugly head
> >> 
> >> some cd players just had a little problem and went right along
> >> but older players with less forgiving hard/firm ware just would
> >> not continue
> >> 
> >> also still checking the itunes library as cds may have had scratches
> >> introduced when importing them
> >> 
> >> had to go back and check data dvds and that was a PITA for someone
> > 
> > 
> > Apple and Apple products; iShit.
> > 
> > "Always broke" rules with Apple.
> 
> LOL
> 
> I've seen lots and lots of slot-loading aluminum iMacs. On precisely 
> none of them has the slot ever been anything but perfectly smooth.
> 
> :-)

Sometimes the CD/DVD drives on the vertical iMacs do have issues with
slipping and becoming misaligned with the slot, but it's rare and
usually caused by someone opening the iMac up and not putting things
back properly.

The more likely cause of discs not being able to be read is due to bad
recordable media or older players that simply can't read RW discs or
even older players that can't read R discs either ... in both cases the
el cheapo brands (both disc and player) are often the worst culprits.

As for scratches, that happens with *all* slot-loading drives over
time. It's caused by user-mishandling of the disc during insertion and
ejection, but also thanks to the mechanism which pulls the disc in and
pushes it out.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75568

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 2:13:32 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> The more likely cause of discs not being able to be read is due to bad
> recordable media or older players that simply can't read RW discs or
> even older players that can't read R discs either ... in both cases the
> el cheapo brands (both disc and player) are often the worst culprits.

There's also the issue of debris on the lens. A $10 lens cleaner kit from
the electronics store has revived a failing optical drive for me several
times.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75629

On Thu, 14 May 2015 09:14:45 +1200
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

all incorrect assertions/suppositions

you should show more respect for aapple subscribers you imply they are
not clever














 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75668

In article <mj2orv$vls$4@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 May 2015 09:14:45 +1200
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> all incorrect assertions/suppositions
> 
> you should show more respect for aapple subscribers you imply they are
> not clever

Well you're certainly proving you aren't clever.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75628

On Wed, 13 May 2015 13:26:35 -0700
Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote:

> I've seen lots and lots of slot-loading aluminum iMacs. On precisely 
> none of them has the slot ever been anything but perfectly smooth.


ok at least you acknowledge there is a problem and you checked each
one of the imacs you worked on

i was surprised too and was why the problem was hard to find











 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75631

On 2015-05-14 18:12:04 +0000, Electric Comet said:

> On Wed, 13 May 2015 13:26:35 -0700
> Alan Baker <email@domain.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've seen lots and lots of slot-loading aluminum iMacs. On precisely
>> none of them has the slot ever been anything but perfectly smooth.
> 
> 
> ok at least you acknowledge there is a problem and you checked each
> one of the imacs you worked on

Nope.

> 
> i was surprised too and was why the problem was hard to find

You're assuming that the issue was faulty machining at the factory...

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75555

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> it took a long time to figure this out
> if you have an imac take note
> 
> lots of problems when burning cds and dvds
> audio cds were the biggest problem as the burned discs would have
> problems midway into the cd
> 
> dvds also had problems some would just not read
> 
> turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
> deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
> with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
> of the disc
> 
> this was really puzzling and made the more so due to the problem
> not always rearing its ugly head
> 
> some cd players just had a little problem and went right along
> but older players with less forgiving hard/firm ware just would
> not continue
> 
> also still checking the itunes library as cds may have had scratches
> introduced when importing them
> 
> had to go back and check data dvds and that was a PITA for someone

But, some jerk, a wannabe "computer consultant", has seen "lots and lots" of slot-loading aluminum iMacs that were fine.  So in IT'S little pea brain, that means every, single one of them, is perfect.  Wadda dick. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75572

On 2015-05-13 14:12, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> dvds also had problems some would just not read
>
> turns out that the aluminum slot in the side of the imac is not well
> deburred during manufacture so unless you insert and remove the disc
> with surgical precision you get a big scratch on the business side
> of the disc

Never had a single issue with my last iMac (24") that had a slot for 
CD/DVD.  And I did burn a lot of disks (on the order of 100 over the 
years that I had that machine).

Most disks held on the order of 3 GB (DVD) or 500 MB (CD).

I sort of miss that machine as I would copy from an external drive to 
the built in burner.  Now I have to read the disk to a ramdisk and burn 
from that (I re-copy after a disk is 5 years old).

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75627

On Wed, 13 May 2015 19:47:52 -0400
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> Never had a single issue with my last iMac (24") that had a slot for 

the big difference with my post and yours is that yours does nothing
and mine provides a possible solution for some poor soul having
annoying and hard to find problems with discs they burned on their
imac

some people have the expectation that the computer's chassis has
been properly machined and deburred when they take ownership of a
especially for a large market consumer product











 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#75762

On 2015-05-14 14:09, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 19:47:52 -0400
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Never had a single issue with my last iMac (24") that had a slot for
>
> the big difference with my post and yours is that yours does nothing
> and mine provides a possible solution for some poor soul having
> annoying and hard to find problems with discs they burned on their
> imac


> some people have the expectation that the computer's chassis has
> been properly machined and deburred when they take ownership of a
> especially for a large market consumer product

I know many people with many Macs and your post is the sole instance 
I've heard of the issue.

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.system

csiph-web